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(The Hill)   (Shakes Etch-a-Sketch, turns knobs): You know, the whole GM bailout was Romney's idea. Obama just did what Romney told him, and it all worked out great   (thehill.com) divider line 169
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2012-04-29 10:25:43 AM

Shrugging Atlas: Romney is a shiatty candidate who has surrounded himself with dullards.

His party's idiotic policies are really the least of Romney's problem. The biggest is that he's a joke of a candidate that lost to someone like McCain in the primaries 4 years ago and took months and hundreds of millions of dollars to put away the likes of Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum this year. Comments like this one are made at least on a weekly basis by the candidate, his spouse, his staff or his surrogates. I can't recall a more undisciplined campaign...and it's been running for 6+ years!

That said, dumbass Romney can probably get away with bullshiat like this in April. Still very few people paying attention to the campaign and those that are almost all know better. But here's the problem for Romney: Just like McCain he doesn't seem to understand the fact we have audio and video recording devices. I can almost see it now. The Obama campaign will just tuck this one away, then Obama will either drop this in his "laughing this shiat is so stupid" delivery in his stump speech, or he'll bust it out with Romney standing right in front of him during a debate and all but laugh in his face.


I like my Samuel L. Jackson idea better. Seeing Romney shiat himself in fear would be hilarious.
 
2012-04-29 10:25:54 AM

Shrugging Atlas: The Obama campaign will just tuck this one away, then Obama will either drop this in his "laughing this shiat is so stupid" delivery in his stump speech, or he'll bust it out with Romney standing right in front of him during a debate and all but laugh in his face.


I would love to see Obama walk to the debate podium with an iPad loaded with ammunition like this.
 
2012-04-29 10:26:09 AM

Roy_G_Biv: StopLurkListen: So it's OK for conservatives to like (or buy) the Volt now?

[i257.photobucket.com image 390x216]

Nope. Still not buying anything from Unamerican Motors.

New talking point, guys! No more "Not Buying from Government Motors" jokes, Romney's now claiming credit for the success of the bailout. Please adjust your AM radio call-ins, peeps.

No. Mitt doesn't tell actual conservatives what to think, just like McCain didn't. He's simply the lesser of two evils, so we'll be voting for him come November. It doesn't matter what he's saying about GM because we already know Obama is a much bigger liar and more corrupt than any president in our lifetime. Abd yes, that includes Nixon.

So if you were dumb enought to buy a Volt, I wouldn't count on the demand or resale value increasing any time soon.


Lol what's unamerican about Chevrolet?

/is it the silent T?
 
2012-04-29 10:27:12 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Shrugging Atlas: The Obama campaign will just tuck this one away, then Obama will either drop this in his "laughing this shiat is so stupid" delivery in his stump speech, or he'll bust it out with Romney standing right in front of him during a debate and all but laugh in his face.

I would love to see Obama walk to the debate podium with an iPad loaded with ammunition like this.


Roll pull up [track] 212!
 
2012-04-29 10:27:58 AM

QU!RK1019: Roy_G_Biv: StopLurkListen: So it's OK for conservatives to like (or buy) the Volt now?

[i257.photobucket.com image 390x216]

Nope. Still not buying anything from Unamerican Motors.

New talking point, guys! No more "Not Buying from Government Motors" jokes, Romney's now claiming credit for the success of the bailout. Please adjust your AM radio call-ins, peeps.

No. Mitt doesn't tell actual conservatives what to think, just like McCain didn't. He's simply the lesser of two evils, so we'll be voting for him come November. It doesn't matter what he's saying about GM because we already know Obama is a much bigger liar and more corrupt than any president in our lifetime. Abd yes, that includes Nixon.

So if you were dumb enought to buy a Volt, I wouldn't count on the demand or resale value increasing any time soon.

Lol what's unamerican about Chevrolet?

/is it the silent T?


My parents bought a GMC Terrain that was made in Canada.

So I guess it's unamerican in that regard, but something tells me that isn't what he meant.

/CSB
 
2012-04-29 10:37:06 AM

ox45tallboy: "Worse than Nixon!" is actually pretty tame by comparison.


Yes, the comparison is very unfair to Nixon. I don't recall Nixon assassinating American citizen
 
2012-04-29 10:38:58 AM

QU!RK1019: Lol what's unamerican about Chevrolet?

/is it the silent T?


The spelling *is* very French.
 
2012-04-29 10:40:54 AM

Roy_G_Biv: He's simply the lesser of two evils, so we'll be voting for him come November. It doesn't matter what he's saying about GM because we already know Obama Bush is a much bigger liar and more corrupt than any president in our lifetime. Abd yes, that includes Nixon.


I think I just flashbacked to 2004, and I've never even used LSD.
 
2012-04-29 10:42:19 AM

Muta: Yes, the comparison is very unfair to Nixon. I don't recall Nixon assassinating American citizen


Were there any American citizens in Cambodia?
 
2012-04-29 10:43:27 AM

Muta: ox45tallboy: "Worse than Nixon!" is actually pretty tame by comparison.

Yes, the comparison is very unfair to Nixon. I don't recall Nixon assassinating American citizen


Do you honestly believe that there weren't much worse (and actually illegal) shenanigans being pulled by the CIA under Nixon?

You're so cute.
 
2012-04-29 10:43:57 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: I would love to see Obama walk to the debate podium with an iPad loaded with ammunition like this.


I like it. Every time Romney gives an answer or makes a statement, Obama just holds it up with that "biatch please" look on his face and plays a video of Romney saying the exact opposite thing.
 
2012-04-29 10:45:00 AM
 
2012-04-29 10:46:16 AM

Shrugging Atlas: LouDobbsAwaaaay: I would love to see Obama walk to the debate podium with an iPad loaded with ammunition like this.

I like it. Every time Romney gives an answer or makes a statement, Obama just holds it up with that "biatch please" look on his face and plays a video of Romney saying the exact opposite thing.


It would be reminiscent of Jon Stewart's interview with Jim Cramer.
 
2012-04-29 10:49:56 AM

StopLurkListen: Kittypie070:


Please don't do that "ching chong" asian crap.


Welcome to Fark.
 
2012-04-29 10:50:56 AM

Muta: ox45tallboy: "Worse than Nixon!" is actually pretty tame by comparison.

Yes, the comparison is very unfair to Nixon. I don't recall Nixon assassinating American citizen


cdn.gs.uproxx.com
 
2012-04-29 10:55:19 AM

HeartBurnKid: I swear, it's like these guys don't realize we have the Internet now...


The internet now provides these lunatics with a completely different narrative. And you'll never overcome it. Like most lefties, you think that proving someone wrong with facts will make them change their minds.

You let me know how that turns out for you.
 
2012-04-29 11:25:20 AM
Um, I didn't know Obama was even president back in the fall of 2008.

Wow, that guy can do ANYTHING!
 
2012-04-29 11:25:39 AM

Tor_Eckman: Muta: ox45tallboy: "Worse than Nixon!" is actually pretty tame by comparison.

Yes, the comparison is very unfair to Nixon. I don't recall Nixon assassinating American citizen

Do you honestly believe that there weren't much worse (and actually illegal) shenanigans being pulled by the CIA under Nixon?

You're so cute.


I remember when Nixon was the right wing devil incarnate, now he's an enviropansy, communist appeasing anti-business socialist.

It's amazing what a few decades of media consolidation can do to the overton window
 
2012-04-29 11:29:03 AM

ghare: Romney is just not that smart or talented.


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-29 11:29:06 AM
When Obama wins in November, Romney will claim to have voted for him.
 
2012-04-29 11:30:59 AM
I'm really confused. If the agreement took place in December 2008 in the Bush White House, and if Romney wants to suddenly say the bailout was a good idea and was his idea.... wouldn't the smart thing be to say he gave the idea to Bush?

Romney's not only lying, but unnecessarily crediting Obama at the same time. You can't buy that kind of stupidity.
 
2012-04-29 11:31:20 AM

AnEvilGuest: Tor_Eckman: Muta: ox45tallboy: "Worse than Nixon!" is actually pretty tame by comparison.

Yes, the comparison is very unfair to Nixon. I don't recall Nixon assassinating American citizen

Do you honestly believe that there weren't much worse (and actually illegal) shenanigans being pulled by the CIA under Nixon?

You're so cute.

I remember when Nixon was the right wing devil incarnate, now he's an enviropansy, communist appeasing anti-business socialist.

It's amazing what a few decades of media consolidation can do to the overton window


I know, that job-killing EPA was all Nixon's fault!

Why couldn't he just let the rivers burn? Didn't he realize how many jobs would be killed by not letting the free market decide acceptable pollution levels?

This is all anyone needs to know about Nixon and the current health care situation:

www.triplepundit.com
 
2012-04-29 11:31:42 AM

RainDawg: The more I learn about mormonism the more it does seem like a cult.


And this is why I don't quite care for my sister choosing it as her religion. I had known years before that it was a creepy cult because of Warren Jeffs and the missionaries that knocked on my door yet got very uncomfortable when I brought him up. I hadn't expected her to show up a couple of Christmases ago with an utter bastard who was a Mormon. He didn't really have any redeeming values at all,she was planning to get an annulment last time I talked to her,but he did apparently get her hooked on this farking weird shiat. Dammit I liked her better as a person when she was Wiccan because apparently being Mormon makes you think you're better than every single person you come into contact with within months of being in the church.
 
2012-04-29 11:38:30 AM

A Terrible Human: RainDawg: The more I learn about mormonism the more it does seem like a cult..... apparently being Mormon makes you think you're better than every single person you come into contact with within months of being in the church.


That's one of the definitions of a cult. Or being Southern Baptist. Whichever.
 
2012-04-29 11:48:28 AM

ghare: That's one of the definitions of a cult. Or being Southern Baptist. Whichever.


Ahahahaha that's kinda funny cause the church we went to growing was a Baptist church,do you consider southeast Ky southern enough? I learned very early on that if you're one of the poor kids in the church the adults aren't as nice and talk down to you no matter which damn baptist church you go to. It was all very keeping up the Joneses mentality with both of the baptist churches our family went to.
/And that's why I'm agnostic.
 
2012-04-29 11:53:46 AM
While we're at it, it was also Romney's idea to kill Bin Laden
 
2012-04-29 11:56:00 AM
"The president tells us that without his intervention things in Detroit would be worse," Romney wrote. "I believe that without his intervention things there would be better."

Reminded me of...

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."


Wonder what Romney's record is. Betcha it's higher than six.
 
2012-04-29 12:19:02 PM

A Terrible Human: And this is why I don't quite care for my sister choosing it as her religion. I had known years before that it was a creepy cult because of Warren Jeffs and the missionaries that knocked on my door yet got very uncomfortable when I brought him up. I hadn't expected her to show up a couple of Christmases ago with an utter bastard who was a Mormon. He didn't really have any redeeming values at all,she was planning to get an annulment last time I talked to her,but he did apparently get her hooked on this farking weird shiat. Dammit I liked her better as a person when she was Wiccan because apparently being Mormon makes you think you're better than every single person you come into contact with within months of being in the church.


Ah, Wiccan to Mormon? So is she a bit of a causehead, faithwise? Just floats around to whatever her current social group pushes her towards, regardless of what she actually believes?

I've known a few people like that. For them, it doesn't matter what they actually believe in, as long as it's the same as their current circle of loved ones/friends/etc.
 
2012-04-29 12:30:27 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: The whole "lying because the base will believe whatever shiat I spew out" strategy will not work too well for Mitt being that the 20%ers hate his ass about half as much as they hate President Obama, and half of infinity is still a lot


He doesn't have to worry about placating anyone who hates Obama twice as much as they hate him. Welcome to the two-party system.
 
2012-04-29 12:31:44 PM

Jorn the Younger:
That's true, and I don't look at religion as an inherently bad thing, and I probably should have been more precise with my language. There are many aspects of religious organisations that are positive, and there are many members of any given faith for whom 'church is a thing to do on Sunday'- they are not die-hard adherents to the dogma, but enjoy gathering with their neighbors once a week and having a sing-along, having group dinners, and other social and charitable functions of "church life". Ideally, most of those roles would be filled by more basic social clubs, without the religion so thoroughly interwoven. For I know that faith is a personal matter, and when I rail against religion, or religious institutions, it is because most of them want to take away my freedom to make that, and other, choices for myself. And as Prime said, 'Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.' The very basis of morality is the idea that those will the ability to determine their own destiny have the right to do so- that which is immoral is that which violates the rights of others to self-determine.


Well, when speaking of "religion" in that sense, as I said I see it as a problem with a group mentality that develops. With "religious institutions", you're usually referring to dictation by higher-ups. I don't personally see any benefit to any sort of hierarchy within a religion beyond the local scale, but I don't see the problems that arise from it to be really related to religion in general. People at the top have more power, I think I'd be no less likely to respect a head religious figure than I would a billionaire owner of a media corporation. It's just too easy for a person in position to provide a large group of people with whatever message he chooses to become corrupt, either intentionally or by deluding himself into believing he's delivering justice. The more control you have, the more likely you are to lose sight of reality. I don't think it's impossible for a person in power to exercise it responsibly, just more and more unlikely the higher up you go. Most such situations would probably benefit from some decentralization, but it's not easily taken from the people who already have the most control.
As for morality and freedom, there's still a lot of subjectivity to be thrown in there. I can't think of a way that being shocked with a taser really impairs my own freedom, but I'd gladly give up my freedom to taser anyone whenever the hell I want if it means significantly less worry about someone sneaking up and shocking me all the time. I don't think it's quite that clear-cut. In many cases I'm all for taking away people's freedom to inflict pain without consequence, sometimes even when the pain caused has no effect beyond the immediate. If it was really as simple as more freedom is always better, it would be a lot harder to find ground for arguments for taking it away. These arguments are very often abused by distorting facts, etc, but I think a lot of non-crazies will take the time to look at evidence and weigh trade-offs for some of them, which wouldn't happen if the whole premise were completely baseless.
 
2012-04-29 12:32:46 PM

zedster: but GOP attacking US car companies while giving government aid and funds to German and Japanese companies in the South a okay?


What sort of government aid did German and Japanese companies receive from Republican politicians? Was it at the state level?
 
2012-04-29 12:39:47 PM

doyner: Fehrnstrom


Apparently this guy is the Political Genius who made the "etch-a-sketch" comment too. The fact that he's even still on the camapign payroll makes me think he's got to be somebody's nephew
 
2012-04-29 12:44:53 PM

A Terrible Human: ghare: That's one of the definitions of a cult. Or being Southern Baptist. Whichever.

Ahahahaha that's kinda funny cause the church we went to growing was a Baptist church,do you consider southeast Ky southern enough? I learned very early on that if you're one of the poor kids in the church the adults aren't as nice and talk down to you no matter which damn baptist church you go to. It was all very keeping up the Joneses mentality with both of the baptist churches our family went to.
/And that's why I'm agnostic.


Well In their defense, they weren't looking down on you for being poor per se, but just because your poverty was proof of your unrighteousness and God's displeasure with you for not praying the Prayer of Jabaez hard enough or not "trusting in God enough" 'cause if Jesus said it once, he said it a thousand times, God loves the rich best and material rewards on this earth are the inevitable result of following him correctly
 
2012-04-29 12:46:37 PM

Roy_G_Biv: StopLurkListen: So it's OK for conservatives to like (or buy) the Volt now?

[i257.photobucket.com image 390x216]

Nope. Still not buying anything from Unamerican Motors.

New talking point, guys! No more "Not Buying from Government Motors" jokes, Romney's now claiming credit for the success of the bailout. Please adjust your AM radio call-ins, peeps.

No. Mitt doesn't tell actual conservatives what to think, just like McCain didn't. He's simply the lesser of two evils, so we'll be voting for him come November. It doesn't matter what he's saying about GM because we already know Obama is a much bigger liar and more corrupt than any president in our lifetime. Abd yes, that includes Nixon.

So if you were dumb enought to buy a Volt, I wouldn't count on the demand or resale value increasing any time soon.


I'd ask what color the sky is in your world but your name tells me that already.
 
2012-04-29 12:47:10 PM

doyner: Eric Fehrnstrom, senior adviser to the Romney campaign


Fehrnstrom!

2.bp.blogspot.com

/Surprised I was the only one who thought that when he heard the name
//knows that's not his actual name but sounds really similar...at least in my head
 
2012-04-29 12:47:30 PM

Roy_G_Biv: StopLurkListen: So it's OK for conservatives to like (or buy) the Volt now?

[i257.photobucket.com image 390x216]

Nope. Still not buying anything from Unamerican Motors.

New talking point, guys! No more "Not Buying from Government Motors" jokes, Romney's now claiming credit for the success of the bailout. Please adjust your AM radio call-ins, peeps.

No. Mitt doesn't tell actual conservatives what to think, just like McCain didn't. He's simply the lesser of two evils, so we'll be voting for him come November. It doesn't matter what he's saying about GM because we already know Obama is a much bigger liar and more corrupt than any president in our lifetime. Abd yes, that includes Nixon.

So if you were dumb enought to buy a Volt, I wouldn't count on the demand or resale value increasing any time soon.


I'd put you on ignore but its so obvious you're making this up, I'd rather just enjoy your ramblings...
 
2012-04-29 12:48:30 PM

Bermuda59: While we're at it, it was also Romney's idea to kill Bin Laden


Enough with your liberal lies. Romney killed Bin Laden with his bare hands after disobeying Obama's direct order not to do so.
 
2012-04-29 12:50:24 PM
But in order to make this argument, he must admit that Obama has gotten SOME things right. Well, there goes that far-right vote they've spent the last two years courting...
 
2012-04-29 01:09:04 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Bermuda59: While we're at it, it was also Romney's idea to kill Bin Laden

Enough with your liberal lies. Romney killed Bin Laden with his bare hands after disobeying Obama's direct order not to do so.


That second helicopter would not have crashed if only they'd let Sarah Palin pilot it. But she protected the pilots for hours by holding off Somali hordes with only a sniper rifle.
 
2012-04-29 01:16:25 PM

T-Servo: Shrugging Atlas: Bermuda59: While we're at it, it was also Romney's idea to kill Bin Laden

Enough with your liberal lies. Romney killed Bin Laden with his bare hands after disobeying Obama's direct order not to do so.

That second helicopter would not have crashed if only they'd let Sarah Palin pilot it. But she protected the pilots for hours by holding off Somali hordes with only a sniper rifle.


Mitt Romney charged the cockpit on Flight 93 and the passengers, in their gratitude, gave him the only parachute.
 
2012-04-29 01:18:52 PM
Wow, I never thought I'd see a triple digit percentage ass kicking in a Presidential race until the GOP Herp Derp machine got going.
 
2012-04-29 01:26:31 PM
I was starting to get a little worried when his campaign hadn't said anything demonstrably stupid for 5 days. Keep up that turd a week average Rom Rom!
 
2012-04-29 01:33:22 PM
www.webanswers.com

"Uh... I'd also like to express my fondness for that particular beer. "



/The man never drank a Duff in his life!
 
2012-04-29 01:43:50 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Ah, Wiccan to Mormon? So is she a bit of a causehead, faithwise? Just floats around to whatever her current social group pushes her towards, regardless of what she actually believes?

I've known a few people like that. For them, it doesn't matter what they actually believe in, as long as it's the same as their current circle of loved ones/friends/etc.


Pretty much. I've seen her go from full on fundie to Wiccan back to fundie back to Wiccan. The only interesting thing about this time is the Mormonism and that's just because of how it's kinda creepy. This time it went Wiccan,Mormon,Wiccan,buy A Witches Bible,then go directly back to being a Mormon. It's just weird to see someone flip their positions like that,then again she's a former teabagger who went to Glenn Beck's rally and has some passage from one his shiatty books in a frame.

Magorn: Well In their defense, they weren't looking down on you for being poor per se, but just because your poverty was proof of your unrighteousness and God's displeasure with you for not praying the Prayer of Jabaez hard enough or not "trusting in God enough" 'cause if Jesus said it once, he said it a thousand times, God loves the rich best and material rewards on this earth are the inevitable result of following him correctly


Once again shiat like this is why I'm agnostic because I kinda think quite a few of those people thought like that. Plus it all just seems like a big scam,especially tithing.
 
2012-04-29 02:14:15 PM

Roy_G_Biv: StopLurkListen: So it's OK for conservatives to like (or buy) the Volt now?

[i257.photobucket.com image 390x216]

Nope. Still not buying anything from Unamerican Motors.

New talking point, guys! No more "Not Buying from Government Motors" jokes, Romney's now claiming credit for the success of the bailout. Please adjust your AM radio call-ins, peeps.

No. Mitt doesn't tell actual conservatives what to think, just like McCain didn't. He's simply the lesser of two evils, so we'll be voting for him come November. It doesn't matter what he's saying about GM because we already know Obama is a much bigger liar and more corrupt than any president in our lifetime. Abd yes, that includes Nixon.

So if you were dumb enought to buy a Volt, I wouldn't count on the demand or resale value increasing any time soon.


So you're going to keep sending your money to overseas companies and blaming other people for why the economy is doing poorly, got it.
 
2012-04-29 02:14:38 PM

pciszek: zedster: but GOP attacking US car companies while giving government aid and funds to German and Japanese companies in the South a okay?

What sort of government aid did German and Japanese companies receive from Republican politicians? Was it at the state level?


All those new factories in the South were given very sweet deals to be there. There is a reason all bmw x suvs are built stateside. On my phone so I cannot find the exact terms
 
2012-04-29 02:35:49 PM
Here's the thing I'd like the folks who are all "Obama's gunna lose" to answer.

The US re-elected Bush.. Let me repeat that. The US re-elected Bush.

What makes you think we won't re-elect Obama?
 
2012-04-29 03:24:09 PM
The United States Constitution was Mitt Romney's idea.
 
2012-04-29 03:31:21 PM

Roy_G_Biv: It doesn't matter what he's saying about GM because we already know Obama is a much bigger liar


I strongly question your objective reasoning.
 
2012-04-29 03:36:46 PM

Lackofname: Here's the thing I'd like the folks who are all "Obama's gunna lose" to answer.

The US re-elected Bush.. Let me repeat that. The US re-elected Bush.

What makes you think we won't re-elect Obama?


Yeah, we re-elected a President who sucks, why wouldn't we re-elect one who doesn't?
 
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