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(CBC)   Jury finds that cop who beat up a legally blind doctor, from behind and without provocation, is a total prick. Bonus: police internal affairs cleared the cop and recommend the man be charged after defending himself   (cbc.ca) divider line 166
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2012-04-29 11:25:02 AM

ialdabaoth: skinink: blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.

Everyone hates cops when they abuse power. That's the only issue. I need them to do their jobs and not act like idiots.

WTF does "abuse of power" even mean? How is it even possible to "abuse" power?

If you have power, whatever you do with it isn't abuse. That's what power is.


Are you farking serious?
 
2012-04-29 11:25:47 AM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


At what point do you believe people actually need a cop? I have been on this planet for 40 years and I have never "needed" a cop, not once. I have never witnessed a cop stop a crime, prevent a crime, or solve a crime. Maybe you're talking about the revenue they generate for the municipalities where they practice their extortion?
 
2012-04-29 11:26:34 AM

isupportcopkillers: "The police are more dangerous then the criminals here in Canada"


They are scum everywhere.

Want to see a good cop ? Go to a cop funeral and look for the guy in the box.

FARK ALL YOU PIGS.
 
2012-04-29 11:33:08 AM

Primus: ialdabaoth:

WTF does "abuse of power" even mean? How is it even possible to "abuse" power?

If you have power, whatever you do with it isn't abuse. That's what power is.

Are you farking serious?


Of course not, but only because I'm not a cop/soldier/warlord/politician.

And if I was, I wouldn't answer "yes"; I'd answer with a baton or a bullet, depending on what I could get away with.
 
2012-04-29 11:39:16 AM

Primus: ialdabaoth: skinink: blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.

Everyone hates cops when they abuse power. That's the only issue. I need them to do their jobs and not act like idiots.

WTF does "abuse of power" even mean? How is it even possible to "abuse" power?

If you have power, whatever you do with it isn't abuse. That's what power is.

Are you farking serious?


It's not an entirely foundationless statement. Sure, societies supposedly ruled by law are supposed to impose regulations and limits upon the use of powers by those individuals authorized to use them. In practice, however, individuals with power will often use it as much as they wish for their own perceived benefit, only stopping when enough people with equivalent total influence oppose them.
 
2012-04-29 11:39:40 AM

whatshisname: AuralArgument: Oh why they are thugs, it's Windsor, less then a stones throw from Detroit... the American mentality is prevalent through out the city and surrounding areas even though it's a Canadian city.

More Americanized then any where in Canada.

THAN


No, no "then" is correct here. Because it is incorrect and he is talking about being Americanized, and most Americans get that wrong, so ... it's correct here.
 
2012-04-29 11:42:29 AM
Paging CruiserTwelve...
 
2012-04-29 11:43:28 AM

PlatinumDragon: Primus: ialdabaoth: skinink: blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.

Everyone hates cops when they abuse power. That's the only issue. I need them to do their jobs and not act like idiots.

WTF does "abuse of power" even mean? How is it even possible to "abuse" power?

If you have power, whatever you do with it isn't abuse. That's what power is.

Are you farking serious?

It's not an entirely foundationless statement. Sure, societies supposedly ruled by law are supposed to impose regulations and limits upon the use of powers by those individuals authorized to use them. In practice, however, individuals with power will often use it as much as they wish for their own perceived benefit, only stopping when enough people with equivalent total influence oppose them.


Exactly. The "war of all against all" doesn't stop just because you craft some precious little "social contract".
 
2012-04-29 11:45:45 AM

ialdabaoth: Primus: ialdabaoth:

WTF does "abuse of power" even mean? How is it even possible to "abuse" power?

If you have power, whatever you do with it isn't abuse. That's what power is.

Are you farking serious?

Of course not, but only because I'm not a cop/soldier/warlord/politician.

And if I was, I wouldn't answer "yes"; I'd answer with a baton or a bullet, depending on what I could get away with.


Addendum: Clearly, I misspoke. If I were a politician, I would not answer you with a bullet; I would answer you with a predator drone or with "extraordinary rendition" to a country of my choice. But cops and soldiers and warlords are still 'little people', so they still have to settle for bullets. Still, they're better than us non-people, so they get to use bullets and we don't.
 
2012-04-29 11:56:21 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: isupportcopkillers: "blah..."

Citation please....

[www.iqcomparisonsite.com image 512x921]


Wow, that was enlightening. Cops, men with guns who have the power of life or death over me, on average, dumber than kindergarten teachers. Also, it lumps police and detectives in the same group. I'm pretty sure detectives are smarter than the beat walkers, but I don't have a fancy graph to back up that hunch. Still, depressing all around.
 
2012-04-29 11:57:57 AM

Tman144: Fark_Guy_Rob: isupportcopkillers: "blah..."

Citation please....

[www.iqcomparisonsite.com image 512x921]

Wow, that was enlightening. Cops, men with guns who have the power of life or death over me, on average, dumber than kindergarten teachers. Also, it lumps police and detectives in the same group. I'm pretty sure detectives are smarter than the beat walkers, but I don't have a fancy graph to back up that hunch. Still, depressing all around.


I don't understand how anyone with the power of life and death over me could possibly be dumber than me. If they have the power of life and death over me, CLEARLY they're doing SOMETHING better than I am.
 
2012-04-29 12:04:23 PM

ialdabaoth: skinink: blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.

Everyone hates cops when they abuse power. That's the only issue. I need them to do their jobs and not act like idiots.

WTF does "abuse of power" even mean? How is it even possible to "abuse" power?

If you have power, whatever you do with it isn't abuse. That's what power is.


Looks like we found Dick Cheney's fark handle.
 
2012-04-29 12:08:11 PM

ialdabaoth: Tman144: Fark_Guy_Rob: isupportcopkillers: "blah..."

Citation please....

[www.iqcomparisonsite.com image 512x921]

Wow, that was enlightening. Cops, men with guns who have the power of life or death over me, on average, dumber than kindergarten teachers. Also, it lumps police and detectives in the same group. I'm pretty sure detectives are smarter than the beat walkers, but I don't have a fancy graph to back up that hunch. Still, depressing all around.

I don't understand how anyone with the power of life and death over me could possibly be dumber than me. If they have the power of life and death over me, CLEARLY they're doing SOMETHING better than I am.


Uhh, that's not what I said. I said they are dumber than kindergarten teachers. Nowhere did I say I was a kindergarten teacher.
 
2012-04-29 12:08:59 PM
Tman144:

Looks like we found Dick Cheney's fark handle.


None of you asses put him in jail, did you?
 
2012-04-29 12:18:14 PM
What the hell are you babbling about? I'm getting out of here before you infect me with your crazy.
 
2012-04-29 12:24:16 PM

gaslight: How does someone who is legally blind be a doctor? Guess he just does lab stuff or pharma studies.


You don't need 20/20 vision to cup a guys balls and say "Cough".
 
2012-04-29 12:43:36 PM

Staffist: 50% of all doctors graduate in the lower half of their class. They're still called "Dr.". Even the blind ones.


Funny thing, pretty much most of them also go on to provide good medical care to people despite "being in the lower half of their class". It must feel nice to be a dick by saying "in the lower half of their class" when it comes to people who learn some of the most difficult things there are to learn, despite that they did graduate and have been determined to be able to perform their duties. But you go ahead and keep talking shiat about them.
fark you and everyone who thinks like you.
 
2012-04-29 12:44:45 PM
Dear Canada,

We appreciate the hero worship, but trust me me when we tell you that you don't want to be like us.

Love,

America
 
2012-04-29 12:44:57 PM

UnspokenVoice: isupportcopkillers: (IQ of the avg piggy is no higher than 80)

I see this touted out often. You're now applying it internationally.

So, Google seems to think you're making that up - at least you're not the first one though. I'm going to hope you have a citation and that you're not being dishonest in an effort to further your objectives.

Keep in mind, well, I'm a drug addled, law breaking, generally socially unacceptable these days, and rather unimpressed with the police kind of guy. There are plenty of faults with the various police forces in various places though those problems aren't universal. In other words, there are a lot of GOOD reasons to seek changes and to complain about law enforcement. Telling LIES (which all my search terms indicate is what you're doing) doesn't actually help -- it hinders.

Then again, maybe you're a violent law breaking police officer who's simply attempting to come in here and actually spout damaging information in hopes that people will repeat it so that they're not taken seriously.


=================

I don't know if the average police IQ is 80, but I do know that US courts have ruled that police departments can reject recruits with very high IQ scores.

Too smart to be a policeman.
 
2012-04-29 12:52:12 PM
I wish I had become a cop. Good job, good pay, and not being a dick I would be more than happy to just do my job and not harass people.

Doesn't seem like too much to ask for.
 
2012-04-29 12:56:04 PM

Electrify: I wish I had become a cop. Good job, good pay, and not being a dick I would be more than happy to just do my job and not harass people.

Doesn't seem like too much to ask for.


It is. If you aren't a dick, you tend to not bond well with the ones who are dicks - which means that when the "blue line" breaks, you'll find yourself on the wrong side of it.

Internal Affairs has quotas too, you know - and once anti-police sentiment gets strong enough, the people need a scapegoat.

Who do you think they'll pick? One of the "good ol' boys", or some mamby-pamby softie who cares more about criminal scum and clueless civvies than his brothers on the force?
 
2012-04-29 12:57:51 PM

Pichu0102: ...fark you and everyone who thinks like you.


Easy. You amuse us.
 
2012-04-29 01:02:36 PM

Pichu0102: Staffist: 50% of all doctors graduate in the lower half of their class. They're still called "Dr.". Even the blind ones.

Funny thing, pretty much most of them also go on to provide good medical care to people despite "being in the lower half of their class". It must feel nice to be a dick by saying "in the lower half of their class" when it comes to people who learn some of the most difficult things there are to learn, despite that they did graduate and have been determined to be able to perform their duties. But you go ahead and keep talking shiat about them.
fark you and everyone who thinks like you.


Ohh, THERE'S your problem.

You give a shiat.

Sucks to be you, man.
 
2012-04-29 01:07:23 PM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


Need one for...what?

Cops don't do anything but write citations and reports.

I don't need either.
 
2012-04-29 01:48:34 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, actions such as this by the police force cause me to often think that the only good cop is a dead one.


Maybe they could change my mind by changing their behaviors and getting back to "protecting and serving".
 
2012-04-29 01:51:54 PM

ChaffedTitty: I've said it before, and I'll say it again, actions such as this by the police force cause me to often think that the only good cop is a dead one.


Maybe they could change my mind by changing their behaviors and getting back to "protecting and serving".


Why the everfarkinghell would they want to do that? What possible reason do they have?
 
2012-04-29 01:53:27 PM
Keep it up and one day a cop will find himself in harms way and alone without backup. He will scream for assistance from passersby and they will ignore him.

You reap what you sow.
 
2012-04-29 02:13:11 PM
Even in the nicest, most civilized countries, cops are complete farkasses.
 
2012-04-29 02:18:40 PM

the_chief: Even in the nicest, most civilized countries, cops are complete farkasses.


"nice" and "civilized" are words that have no actual meaning, unless you intend them to mean "COUNTRIES THAT YOU SHOULD LOOK UP TO OR ELSE THEY START BOMBING YOU".
 
2012-04-29 02:22:11 PM

ialdabaoth: the_chief: Even in the nicest, most civilized countries, cops are complete farkasses.

"nice" and "civilized" are words that have no actual meaning, unless you intend them to mean "COUNTRIES THAT YOU SHOULD LOOK UP TO OR ELSE THEY START BOMBING YOU".


Canada won't bomb me.

Wouldn't you agree that some countries are nicer and more civilized than others? Wouldn't you agree that all countries have dick cops?
 
2012-04-29 02:23:40 PM

Corporate Self: Keep it up and one day a cop will find himself in harms way and alone without backup. He will scream for assistance from passersby and they will ignore him.

You reap what you sow.


"The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ( cops) whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no." "
 
2012-04-29 02:26:33 PM

the_chief: ialdabaoth: the_chief: Even in the nicest, most civilized countries, cops are complete farkasses.

"nice" and "civilized" are words that have no actual meaning, unless you intend them to mean "COUNTRIES THAT YOU SHOULD LOOK UP TO OR ELSE THEY START BOMBING YOU".

Canada won't bomb me.

Wouldn't you agree that some countries are nicer and more civilized than others? Wouldn't you agree that all countries have dick cops?


No, and no. I would say, instead, that the world is a vicious cycle of abuse and misery, and some people get away with it on account of having better access to weapons and less social consequence for their actions. I might even go so far as to suggest that blue or black uniforms with shiny badges are one way to mitigate the social consequences for stalking and raping women, shooting black and brown non-people, and generally doing whatever the hell they want as long as it conforms to their superiors' expectations and keeps the lower classes of non-people in line.
 
2012-04-29 02:33:50 PM

Corporate Self: Keep it up and one day a cop will find himself in harms way and alone without backup. He will scream for assistance from passersby and they will ignore him.

You reap what you sow.


AFAIK, this only happens to cops who dare challenge their colleagues' abuses.
 
2012-04-29 02:38:05 PM

PlatinumDragon: Corporate Self: Keep it up and one day a cop will find himself in harms way and alone without backup. He will scream for assistance from passersby and they will ignore him.

You reap what you sow.

AFAIK, this only happens to cops who dare challenge their colleagues' abuses.


Ding ding ding motherfarking DING, we have a winner.

Evolutionary Stable Strategies FTW.
 
2012-04-29 02:41:17 PM
I wonder what would happen if somebody tracked down and killed one of these abusive cops like Van Buskirk and then went to trial, telling everyone outright that the reason he killed him is because he's sick of police brutality and decided someone had to fight back. Would cops start moving away from their increasingly thuggish behavior, or would they use it as an excuse to act even more like wild animals?
 
2012-04-29 02:46:00 PM

Richard Roma: I wonder what would happen if somebody tracked down and killed one of these abusive cops like Van Buskirk and then went to trial, telling everyone outright that the reason he killed him is because he's sick of police brutality and decided someone had to fight back. Would cops start moving away from their increasingly thuggish behavior, or would they use it as an excuse to act even more like wild animals?


They would absolutely use it as an excuse to act even more like wild animals. They did precisely this in the 80's, when nig - uh, "gangsta rappers" started talking openly about the solutions to police brutality in their own neighborhoods.
 
2012-04-29 02:47:46 PM

lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 600x500]


Legitimate LOL! Farking awesome.
 
2012-04-29 02:48:03 PM
This is all President Obama's fault! Ever since he took office in this country.... What? This is Canada? Oh. This is what's his name's fault! Ever since he took office in that country....
 
2012-04-29 02:51:17 PM

Fissile: UnspokenVoice: isupportcopkillers: (IQ of the avg piggy is no higher than 80)

I see this touted out often. You're now applying it internationally.

So, Google seems to think you're making that up - at least you're not the first one though. I'm going to hope you have a citation and that you're not being dishonest in an effort to further your objectives.

Keep in mind, well, I'm a drug addled, law breaking, generally socially unacceptable these days, and rather unimpressed with the police kind of guy. There are plenty of faults with the various police forces in various places though those problems aren't universal. In other words, there are a lot of GOOD reasons to seek changes and to complain about law enforcement. Telling LIES (which all my search terms indicate is what you're doing) doesn't actually help -- it hinders.

Then again, maybe you're a violent law breaking police officer who's simply attempting to come in here and actually spout damaging information in hopes that people will repeat it so that they're not taken seriously.

=================

I don't know if the average police IQ is 80, but I do know that US courts have ruled that police departments can reject recruits with very high IQ scores.

Too smart to be a policeman.


Which equates to nothing remotely like what they'd claimed. (I had seen that before actually.) I figured someone had to call them on it. The worst part is that I'm not even a fan of cops or anything. I guess I'm glad that they're there for those people who would rely on them but I don't personally have any use for them. If there's a problem the last group of people that I'm going to call with be a police force - anywhere.
 
2012-04-29 02:54:58 PM

isupportcopkillers: "The police are more dangerous then the criminals here in Canada"

The police are more dangerous than criminals anywhere. What do you expect when you take
a bunch of low IQ (IQ of the avg piggy is no higher than 80) people who probably got their ass kicked on a daily bases both in home and at school and give them a little badge and gun?

Reasons why this and thousands others are why i fully support killing of cops and they should be rewarded for it. Kill a cop and its 100% justified? Should be given a 100k tax free grant taken from the "war on terror" funding. I mean that's all a cop is, they are govt approved and funded terrorists.


I HAD to clink on your profile to see how long you've lasted with that name. From your bio I see a couple of issues. I am no police apologist and frankly reading a few articles here on Fark and the comments have put a bad tast in my mouth with them. That being said, I believe you go quite a bit too far with the ITG stick.

From Bio:

Police are Americas real terrorist, not some boggy man with a towel on his head. Add up all damage these boggy man with towels on their head do and then add up the damage police to do to innocent people. I'll bet anything the damage from police far exceeds that of the towel heads and far exceeds their use.\r\n\r\nRemember\r\n\r\nPolice = Govt Approved Terrorist

Who are these boggy men you speak of?
 
2012-04-29 03:39:01 PM

tekmo: Cops don't do anything but write citations and reports.

I don't need either.


In my area they also break up fights, serve warrants, arrest people for things like theft, rape, and murder. They also tend to be the first responders for any accidents, helping to save lives.

In my experience, the quality of a police department tends to come from the top. If you get a good Sheriff or Chief, you get good internal affairs types, police abusers like this end up corrected or weeded out before they cause an internationally viewed event.
 
2012-04-29 03:40:50 PM
^^taste...jeez
 
2012-04-29 03:54:32 PM
In my experience, the quality of a police department tends to come from the top. If you get a good Sheriff or Chief, you get good internal affairs types, police abusers like this end up corrected or weeded out before they cause an internationally viewed event.

And how often does that happen?

One person's "good" is another person's "bad". A police department can be *great* at weeding out corruption and abuse directed against black people, but horrible at weeding it out when directed against muslims - because that sheriff/chief's subconscious goals happen to be in-line with that kind of abuse.

No one is clean - everyone is a jerk-ass about something. Having power just means that you get to be right about what you're a jerk-ass about.
 
2012-04-29 04:00:55 PM
i170.photobucket.com


Don't call me Dim no more.
 
2012-04-29 04:03:29 PM
Headline is a trainwreck.
This thread is a trainwreck.

i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-04-29 04:04:05 PM

Staffist: 50% of all doctors graduate in the lower half of their class. They're still called "Dr.". Even the blind ones.


[dry] 100% of you, apparently, were in the lower half of your statistics class. [/dry]
 
2012-04-29 04:36:50 PM

ph0rk: batcookie: Haha wow, now THAT is defensiveness! I am picturing you foaming at the mouth as you type this! If this is how you react to the fact that most of the world doesn't think of Canada when they hear "America," I wonder how you'd have reacted if someone brought up that old "51st state" or "America's hat" joke...?

I live in (and was born in) the United States.

I still slip from time to time, the US this is not all of America. The proper term is "US Americans".

It is a Totem pro parte, and incorrect.


Jesus Christ, we get it already. Every Canadian wants to be called an American. Crystal clear.

First heard this stupid willful misconception when I was an exchange student and was railed for answering that I was "American".

If you don't know that the United States of America is also referred to as "America" then you are an idiot and a terrible example of what Kanuckistanians should be.

/Don't be that guy.
 
2012-04-29 05:08:03 PM
"ok maybe the penis part is unconfirmed, but they did try the "he's stressed and struggles with booze defense"."

I wonder if I can beat the shiat out of anyone I see fit and use this as a successful defense.........

I guess not since I'm a "citizen"

/another isolated incident (including coverup), amirite?
 
2012-04-29 05:11:13 PM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


No, I still hate 'em when I need one too. Had them escalate on me once when I called them.

I know, I know, they have a dangerous job and all that,,,,,,cry me a river.
 
2012-04-29 07:40:15 PM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


False. I've never "needed" a cop. If I asked around, I'd bet that few of my friends would have ever "needed" a cop. Ever. Cowardly little harassing, ticket-writing public nuisances. Moreover, if I ever "needed" assistance from public safety, it would much more likely have been in the form of a firefighter or emergency medical assistance.
 
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