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2012-04-29 06:42:54 AM

batcookie: squrt: i have never met a cop that wasnt a coward my own family members included

Huh, now THIS is interesting. In my experience, the only people who defend cops are their family members (mostly because they tend to enjoy the same above-the-law privileges as the cops themselves). To see a family member of a cop who can see past the men-in-uniform-are-automatically-heroes idiocy is impressive. Normally we hear "THEY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR YOU!" from cop families, a rationalization that is necessary for them to cope with the fact that their family member has SIGNED ON FOR that job, usually for the sole reason of brandishing a weapon and power... After all, who's going to be able to say to their little kid "Daddy's out beating up innocent people because his uniform lets him!"


Strange - you don't like cops; but you sure think like one.
 
2012-04-29 06:42:59 AM

Bunnyhat: Bunnyhat: GAT_00: cretinbob: Rincewind53: "Legally blind" can include people who can see just fine with strong prescriptions.

Yes.
It means you can't see the big "E": at the you of the eye chart without correction

Really? I didn't think I qualified as legally blind. I can tell what it is, but it's fuzzy.

Yea, I don't think that's correct. Or at least my eye doctor never mentioned it.


Ok, I looked it up.
Anyone with vision worse than 20/200 that cannot be improved with corrective lenses is considered legally blind.

Keyword is cannot.


From the CNIB website:
The definition for legal blindness may vary among countries. Millions of people have partial or complete loss of vision in Canada, where normal vision is defined as 20/20 and legal blindness is defined as worse than or equal to 20/200 with best correction in the better eye or a visual field extent of less than 20 degrees in diameter. In Canada, a visual acuity worse than 20/50 disqualifies people from obtaining a driver?s license or restricts their driving to daytime only, as do some visual field deficits.
 
2012-04-29 06:49:56 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: batcookie: squrt: i have never met a cop that wasnt a coward my own family members included

Huh, now THIS is interesting. In my experience, the only people who defend cops are their family members (mostly because they tend to enjoy the same above-the-law privileges as the cops themselves). To see a family member of a cop who can see past the men-in-uniform-are-automatically-heroes idiocy is impressive. Normally we hear "THEY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR YOU!" from cop families, a rationalization that is necessary for them to cope with the fact that their family member has SIGNED ON FOR that job, usually for the sole reason of brandishing a weapon and power... After all, who's going to be able to say to their little kid "Daddy's out beating up innocent people because his uniform lets him!"

Strange - you don't like cops; but you sure think like one.


I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a psychologist who knows what power does to the human mind.
 
2012-04-29 06:54:37 AM

gaslight: How does someone who is legally blind be a doctor? Guess he just does lab stuff or pharma studies.


My friend is legally blind, (detached retina like the doctor), yet has fewer restrictions on his drivers license than I do.
 
2012-04-29 06:58:09 AM

GAT_00: gaslight: How does someone who is legally blind be a doctor? Guess he just does lab stuff or pharma studies.

Legally blind doesn't mean you cannot correct it. You can be legally blind and legally drive.


That explains a lot.
 
2012-04-29 07:02:38 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I don't know about anywhere else; but in Ireland and the UK, the people that I've personally interacted with use 'America' and 'United States' interchangeably.

// Would rather communicate effectively than be 'technically' right.


He's wrong. He's wrong in exactly the same way that occasional insecure Christians try to define atheism out of existence. (Easily observable in the politics tab.) Words have meaning. Redefining them does not alter reality.

The fact is that Canadians do not self-identify as Americans. Period. Sleeps in trees is wrong.
 
2012-04-29 07:10:37 AM
According to this: Link

In North America and most of Europe, legal blindness is defined as visual acuity (vision) of 20/200 (6/60) or less in the better eye with best correction possible. This means that a legally blind individual would have to stand 20 feet (6 m) from an object to see it with the same degree of clarity as a normally sighted person could from 200 feet (60 m).

In many areas, people with average acuity who nonetheless have a visual field of less than 20 degrees (the norm being 180 degrees) are also classified as being legally blind.

Approximately ten percent of those deemed legally blind, by any measure, have no vision. The rest have some vision, from light perception alone to relatively good acuity.
 
2012-04-29 07:22:26 AM

Staffist: 50% of all doctors graduate in the lower half of their class. They're still called "Dr.". Even the blind ones.


For duty and humanity!
 
2012-04-29 07:37:27 AM
but the guy was brown, the cop is making up for the pent up rage caused by brown people infesting other countries...
and he must have been wearing something islamic that triggered the cop to jump him..
the other two cops could see it when they watched the tape too!

or else not...

shouldn't those who uphold the law be held to a higher standard? and oversight should never be conducted by the very organisation being monitored... like the insurance industry...
plus the people in charge like the chief of police should be held responsible for the actions of the force he is in charge of, just like the military?
 
2012-04-29 07:48:54 AM

isupportcopkillers: (IQ of the avg piggy is no higher than 80)


I see this touted out often. You're now applying it internationally.

So, Google seems to think you're making that up - at least you're not the first one though. I'm going to hope you have a citation and that you're not being dishonest in an effort to further your objectives.

Keep in mind, well, I'm a drug addled, law breaking, generally socially unacceptable these days, and rather unimpressed with the police kind of guy. There are plenty of faults with the various police forces in various places though those problems aren't universal. In other words, there are a lot of GOOD reasons to seek changes and to complain about law enforcement. Telling LIES (which all my search terms indicate is what you're doing) doesn't actually help -- it hinders.

Then again, maybe you're a violent law breaking police officer who's simply attempting to come in here and actually spout damaging information in hopes that people will repeat it so that they're not taken seriously.
 
2012-04-29 07:53:55 AM
Maybe Brown doc. was mistook as a one eyed cat peekin at a seafood store
 
2012-04-29 07:55:25 AM

UnspokenVoice: Keep in mind, well, I'm a drug addled, law breaking, generally socially unacceptable these days, and rather unimpressed with the police kind of guy. There are plenty of faults with the various police forces in various places though those problems aren't universal. In other words, there are a lot of GOOD reasons to seek changes and to complain about law enforcement. Telling LIES (which all my search terms indicate is what you're doing) doesn't actually help -- it hinders.


This.
 
2012-04-29 08:03:37 AM

batcookie: Haha wow, now THAT is defensiveness! I am picturing you foaming at the mouth as you type this! If this is how you react to the fact that most of the world doesn't think of Canada when they hear "America," I wonder how you'd have reacted if someone brought up that old "51st state" or "America's hat" joke...?


I live in (and was born in) the United States.

I still slip from time to time, the US this is not all of America. The proper term is "US Americans".

It is a Totem pro parte, and incorrect.
 
2012-04-29 08:05:46 AM
batcookie: Human nature, my friend. It's the same where ever you go.

Shhh. Don't ruin a good Globalist Conspiracy Theory RAnt. I want to hear more about how I'm controlled by floride in my drinking water, and I'm owned by Monsanto and GM.
 
2012-04-29 08:09:46 AM

Magic_Button: gaslight: Did the cop ever explain why he did it? Did he just snap?

Top of my head trying to remember the case, the cop's daughter phoned him on his cell saying there was a creepy brown guy following them , the cop drove to the neighborhood and the doctor was the first brown guy he found .

The police are more dangerous then the criminals here in Canada


From this article: Link

According to an agreed statement of facts, a man appeared at the Parkside Tennis Club around 3 p.m. on April 22, asking to watch tennis.

When the games were finished, the man was asked to leave. He didn't go. Among those finishing up playing tennis was Van Buskirk's 12-year-old daughter. The man followed the girl and her mother to their car. A tennis coach and a club employee followed, thinking the man looked suspicious. As they approached the vehicle, the man said to the girl, "front seat or back?"

He opened the car door, seemingly to get in. The coach yelled at the man and scared him off.

The girl called her dad to tell him what happened.

Van Buskirk, who was wearing plainclothes, got into an unmarked police car. He went to the tennis club where the employee gave him a description of the man, which was different from the one his daughter gave.

As he was heading back to the station he saw a man, who turned out to be Abouhassan, running along a city street.

He pulled Abouhassan's headphones off, then asked him why he was in the park and why he was talking to girls.

Abouhassan replied that he didn't know what Van Buskirk was talking about, and asked who he was.

Van Buskirk grabbed Abouhassan by the neck. The doctor stepped back and tried to get away. Van Buskirk pursued and punched him in the face at least three times.

The detective then called the tennis club employee, who said it wasn't the same guy. At the hospital Abouhassan learned he was under arrest for assaulting a police officer. The Crown later stayed that charge.

. . .

The article goes on to describe the cop's stressful life, which, honestly, most of us endure (divorce, financial stress, death in family, medical scares), but concludes that it was vigilantism.
 
2012-04-29 08:17:01 AM
Earguy: Magic_Button: gaslight: Did the cop ever explain why he did it? Did he just snap?

Top of my head trying to remember the case, the cop's daughter phoned him on his cell saying there was a creepy brown guy following them , the cop drove to the neighborhood and the doctor was the first brown guy he found .

The police are more dangerous then the criminals here in Canada

From this article: Link

According to an agreed statement of facts, a man appeared at the Parkside Tennis Club around 3 p.m. on April 22, asking to watch tennis.

When the games were finished, the man was asked to leave. He didn't go. Among those finishing up playing tennis was Van Buskirk's 12-year-old daughter. The man followed the girl and her mother to their car. A tennis coach and a club employee followed, thinking the man looked suspicious. As they approached the vehicle, the man said to the girl, "front seat or back?"

He opened the car door, seemingly to get in. The coach yelled at the man and scared him off.

The girl called her dad to tell him what happened.

Van Buskirk, who was wearing plainclothes, got into an unmarked police car. He went to the tennis club where the employee gave him a description of the man, which was different from the one his daughter gave.

As he was heading back to the station he saw a man, who turned out to be Abouhassan, running along a city street.

He pulled Abouhassan's headphones off, then asked him why he was in the park and why he was talking to girls.

Abouhassan replied that he didn't know what Van Buskirk was talking about, and asked who he was.

Van Buskirk grabbed Abouhassan by the neck. The doctor stepped back and tried to get away. Van Buskirk pursued and punched him in the face at least three times.

The detective then called the tennis club employee, who said it wasn't the same guy. At the hospital Abouhassan learned he was under arrest for assaulting a police officer. The Crown later stayed that charge.

. . .

The article goes on to describe the c ...


Wow. What a dick.

Kinda makes you wonder, though. Why the hell was he still allowed to be on the street if he was having so many problems. There are resources out there to help him as a cop when things like that happen.

His fault for not using them. Good riddence.
 
2012-04-29 08:26:23 AM

gaslight: How does someone who is legally blind be a doctor? Guess he just does lab stuff or pharma studies.


Or fight crime
t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-04-29 08:35:05 AM
What is sad about this is not the bad cop pleading guilty to assaulting a blind man without provocation - well, sufficient provocation... no matter how bad and brutal a cop the guy was, I doubt he just randomly decided to beat a particular citizen - but that the two cops who tried to protect a bad cop by trying to intimidate the victim were exonerated after an investigation.

Those two cops saw the beating on video, and then claimed they'd seen enough to have the victim charged with resisting arrest and assaulting an officer.

Det.-Sgts. Paul Bridgeman and Patrick Keane of the Windsor police should be publicly shunned for that, since viewing that very same video is what resulted in the original offender giving up and pleading guilty. Hell, I'd even be on board for a witch hunt at this point, investigating the officers who decided Bridgeman and Keane weren't guilty, and charge THEM, too. The Chief should be getting hammered daily in the local news (if not the national news) for having and tolerating dirty cops on his force - at least 4 by my count.
 
2012-04-29 08:42:37 AM

gaslight: How does someone who is legally blind be a doctor?


Go into psychiatry?
 
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2012-04-29 08:48:03 AM

gaslight: Did the cop ever explain why he did it? Did he just snap?


He's done it before, his colleagues have done it before, this is the first time he ever got in trouble for it.

Things will go back to the regularly scheduled impunity soon enough.
 
2012-04-29 08:57:02 AM

batcookie: Dimensio: batcookie: doglover: or SPAM "legally edible"

I lol'd.

lisarenee3505: So I guess Canada has as much of a problem with dirt-bag cops and the jackhole Internal Affairs department that cover for their misconduct as we have here in the states. Welcome to the New World Order folks, nothing to see here citizen, move along.

Human nature, my friend. It's the same where ever you go.

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Some day American society will say enough is enough. The problem is, when that day finally comes, there will be a gross over reaction and the po po will become totally flaccid. I never really had a problem with Johnny law beating on scumbags. It's seems now the truncheon swings indiscriminately and is just a likely to hit a sleeping paraplegic as a drugged up thug. Why do they insist on beating and killing everyday people?

.... American society is going to wake up and speak out against Canadian cops?

Upon last examination, Canada was observed to be a part of North America.

So is Mexico, but call them "America" and you're gonna have a bunch of crazy ass xenophobes screaming bloody murder. He didn't say "North America," he said "America," which is the accepted shorthand for the United States of America.


Congrats on missing the point entirely.
 
2012-04-29 09:02:37 AM
The cops wouldn't be doing this shiat if they received the appropriate punishment for their actions. I don't hate cops, I hate the fact that when push comes to shove a lot of cop's bad behavior is above the law.

The other two cops from internal affairs really should lose their jobs.
 
2012-04-29 09:04:03 AM

KyDave: /in too late to say "in before 'proof positive that all cops are bad'."


Not ALL. Just most. The ones that cover for the criminals are just as bad as the criminals themselves, and that casts a much wider net.
 
2012-04-29 09:14:05 AM
"Einar had his ribs cut from the spine with a sword and the lungs pulled out through the slits in his back. He dedicated the victim to Odin as a victory offering."
Orkneyinga Saga
 
2012-04-29 09:16:46 AM
StoPPeRmobile: "Einar had his ribs cut from the spine with a sword and the lungs pulled out through the slits in his back. He dedicated the victim to Odin as a victory offering."
Orkneyinga Saga


What the hell?

Talk about out of left field.....

/BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE THRONE!
 
2012-04-29 09:22:29 AM

Magic_Button: gaslight: Did the cop ever explain why he did it? Did he just snap?

Top of my head trying to remember the case, the cop's daughter phoned him on his cell saying there was a creepy brown guy following them , the cop drove to the neighborhood and the doctor was the first brown guy he found .

The police are more dangerous then the criminals here in Canada


That's big government for ya. Here in the states we use the neighborhood watch for stalking brown folk.
 
2012-04-29 09:28:03 AM
Everyone hates cops until they need one.
 
2012-04-29 09:41:14 AM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


The same can be said about proctologists.
 
2012-04-29 09:43:05 AM

sleeps in trees: I'm not partial to the RCMP. Our municipality has a private force. They rock! The RCMP have made too many mistakes for my comfort. When they do their job without politics I'll trust them again.


Huh.

The problem officers that make the news are usually municipal cops, not RCMP, such as the officers that tazed that Pole to death in Vancouver, the aggressive ones in Montreal, etc.

Dicks everywhere, I guess.
 
2012-04-29 09:44:17 AM

gaslight: Did the cop ever explain why he did it? Did he just snap?


The story is that the cop's daughter had been playing tennis nearby, and felt she was accosted by some man in the parking lot. She called Dad the detective, who was sitting behind a desk. He showed up, beat the shiat out of a random man who happened to be there. Random man was a Dr. and detective acted with no premise other than his amazing acuity at mental detecting someone's guilt by being in the same general area.

Charged the dr. for assault (!) & went to hospital. Detective called more cop friends who attempted to intimidate Dr. out of lawsuit with charges/threats. Dr. told them all to suck balls and got a lawyer. More cops, more intimidation, more demands that cops suck balls.

Dr. wins, Video tape shows senseless beating and that dr was not a HORRIFYING SEX PREDATOR but rather a total innocent guy checking out office space in the MEDICAL COMPLEX, where he as beaten senseless by an alchoholic, depressed cop with a tiny penis. ok maybe the penis part is unconfirmed, but they did try the "he's stressed and struggles with booze defense".
 
2012-04-29 10:16:06 AM

SageTemple: gaslight: Did the cop ever explain why he did it? Did he just snap?

The story is that the cop's daughter had been playing tennis nearby, and felt she was accosted by some man in the parking lot. She called Dad the detective, who was sitting behind a desk. He showed up, beat the shiat out of a random man who happened to be there. Random man was a Dr. and detective acted with no premise other than his amazing acuity at mental detecting someone's guilt by being in the same general area.

Charged the dr. for assault (!) & went to hospital. Detective called more cop friends who attempted to intimidate Dr. out of lawsuit with charges/threats. Dr. told them all to suck balls and got a lawyer. More cops, more intimidation, more demands that cops suck balls.

Dr. wins, Video tape shows senseless beating and that dr was not a HORRIFYING SEX PREDATOR but rather a total innocent guy checking out office space in the MEDICAL COMPLEX, where he as beaten senseless by an alchoholic, depressed cop with a tiny penis. ok maybe the penis part is unconfirmed, but they did try the "he's stressed and struggles with booze defense".


Stressed and struggles with booze? Fine. Now explain why he was still allowed to have a badge... Because I really don't want someone with a substance problem having a cop's powers and responsibilities.
 
2012-04-29 10:18:59 AM
Just a second, here. "our discipline apparatus "? What the hell is that? They exist to uphold the laws we made for ourselves, not to discipline us. Man, I just want to smack that stupid right out of his mouth. It reenforces the exact thing he's getting paid to...oh, okay, got it.
 
2012-04-29 10:20:50 AM

gaslight: How does someone who is legally blind be a doctor? Guess he just does lab stuff or pharma studies.


My wife is a PT and legally blind. She can take care of three patients at once but can't drive a car. Legally blind just means 20/400 or worse uncorrected. Maybe 20/600?
 
2012-04-29 10:30:33 AM

A Terrible Human:

So you really think someone should've shot my grandfather when he was a city cop for a small rural town or some of my mom's family who are state troopers?
/My mouth feels dirty from that hook I just bit.


My grandfather ran a speakeasy in NYC -- he would've shot your grandfather.

OTOH, I might challenge you to a game of chess. But I would do that with Zero Provocation!

/so watch it, man
 
2012-04-29 10:37:00 AM
Dr. wins, Video tape shows senseless beating and that dr was not a HORRIFYING SEX PREDATOR but rather a total innocent guy checking out office space in the MEDICAL COMPLEX, where he as beaten senseless by an alchoholic, depressed cop with a tiny penis.

Then the tape was wrong.

Why is it so hard for people's heads to wrap around that idea? If you have to choose between your own eyes and authority, your eyes are lying to you.
 
2012-04-29 10:39:21 AM
What does being legally blind have to do with story? Would it have been okay to beat him up if he wasn't legally blind?
 
2012-04-29 10:41:53 AM

WanPhat: What does being legally blind have to do with story? Would it have been okay to beat him up if he wasn't legally blind?


No, but it's less credibile that a blind man was starting a physicial confrontation, and if he did far less likely he could be effective enough to require the level of force used by the cop.
 
2012-04-29 10:47:27 AM

isupportcopkillers: "The police are more dangerous then the criminals here in Canada"

The police are more dangerous than criminals anywhere. What do you expect when you take
a bunch of low IQ (IQ of the avg piggy is no higher than 80) people who probably got their ass kicked on a daily bases both in home and at school and give them a little badge and gun?

Reasons why this and thousands others are why i fully support killing of cops and they should be rewarded for it. Kill a cop and its 100% justified? Should be given a 100k tax free grant taken from the "war on terror" funding. I mean that's all a cop is, they are govt approved and funded terrorists.


If you chose to insult the IQ of a group, shouldn't you at least use spell check? And your 3rd sentence is a bit...unintelligible.
 
2012-04-29 10:48:15 AM

ph0rk: The proper term is "US Americans".


Is this you?

activerain.com
 
2012-04-29 10:51:12 AM

Unsung_Hero: SageTemple: gaslight: Did the cop ever explain why he did it? Did he just snap?

The story is that the cop's daughter had been playing tennis nearby, and felt she was accosted by some man in the parking lot. She called Dad the detective, who was sitting behind a desk. He showed up, beat the shiat out of a random man who happened to be there. Random man was a Dr. and detective acted with no premise other than his amazing acuity at mental detecting someone's guilt by being in the same general area.

Charged the dr. for assault (!) & went to hospital. Detective called more cop friends who attempted to intimidate Dr. out of lawsuit with charges/threats. Dr. told them all to suck balls and got a lawyer. More cops, more intimidation, more demands that cops suck balls.

Dr. wins, Video tape shows senseless beating and that dr was not a HORRIFYING SEX PREDATOR but rather a total innocent guy checking out office space in the MEDICAL COMPLEX, where he as beaten senseless by an alchoholic, depressed cop with a tiny penis. ok maybe the penis part is unconfirmed, but they did try the "he's stressed and struggles with booze defense".

Stressed and struggles with booze? Fine. Now explain why he was still allowed to have a badge... Because I really don't want someone with a substance problem having a cop's powers and responsibilities.


YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT

In Windsor, it's common understanding that, if pulled over, you have a 53% chance of being let off if you offer whatever intoxicants you have to the altar of the badge. I've seen cops grift a nickel bag with no concerns whatsoever.

Windsor's blue collar and pretty low class, and they like getting farked up. Cops included.
 
2012-04-29 10:53:29 AM

ialdabaoth: Dr. wins, Video tape shows senseless beating and that dr was not a HORRIFYING SEX PREDATOR but rather a total innocent guy checking out office space in the MEDICAL COMPLEX, where he as beaten senseless by an alchoholic, depressed cop with a tiny penis.

Then the tape was wrong.

Why is it so hard for people's heads to wrap around that idea? If you have to choose between your own eyes and authority, your eyes are lying to you.


I know, right? I bet the one dude was like - hey, can you magnify that, again, again, again, again, again, again, again. There. See it?

And everyone else in the room said yes, and nodded wisely. No sunglasses though.
 
2012-04-29 10:57:21 AM
Hey, waitafugginminute. The doctor's name is Abouhassan. He's clearly an Ay-rab and everyone knows that Ay-rabs are terrorists.
 
2012-04-29 11:03:35 AM
This is so much why the public dislikes police in general.

They can't take care of their own bad cops.
 
2012-04-29 11:06:34 AM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


Everyone hates cops when they abuse power. That's the only issue. I need them to do their jobs and not act like idiots.
 
2012-04-29 11:09:32 AM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


...and when you could use* one, they're never around.

*you never need a cop. But they can come in handy in certain circumstances

/When seconds count, cops are minutes away.
 
2012-04-29 11:09:58 AM

AuralArgument: Oh why they are thugs, it's Windsor, less then a stones throw from Detroit... the American mentality is prevalent through out the city and surrounding areas even though it's a Canadian city.

More Americanized then any where in Canada.


Toronto, unfortunately, does not have the same excuse.

/grew up in tecumseh
//been in t-dot for 14 years
///tps == biggest gang in the city
 
2012-04-29 11:15:15 AM

AuralArgument: Oh why they are thugs, it's Windsor, less then a stones throw from Detroit... the American mentality is prevalent through out the city and surrounding areas even though it's a Canadian city.

More Americanized then any where in Canada.


THAN
 
2012-04-29 11:15:45 AM

skinink: blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.

Everyone hates cops when they abuse power. That's the only issue. I need them to do their jobs and not act like idiots.


WTF does "abuse of power" even mean? How is it even possible to "abuse" power?

If you have power, whatever you do with it isn't abuse. That's what power is.
 
2012-04-29 11:20:22 AM
$14 mil? Give him $20 million.
 
2012-04-29 11:23:12 AM

blipponaut: Everyone hates cops until they need one.


Wrong. You can need something and still hate it.

Also

fredklein: you never need a cop. But they can come in handy in certain circumstances


^this.
 
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