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2012-04-29 03:51:49 AM

A Terrible Human: rynthetyn: That would be something that would make Romneybot mildly interesting.

That's honestly his main problem besides his ever present awkwardness. He's just so farking boring to watch.


He makes Al Gore and John Kerry look positively charismatic.
 
2012-04-29 03:54:11 AM

rynthetyn: A Terrible Human: rynthetyn: That would be something that would make Romneybot mildly interesting.

That's honestly his main problem besides his ever present awkwardness. He's just so farking boring to watch.

He makes Al Gore and John Kerry look positively charismatic.


Holy shiat that's exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that.
 
2012-04-29 03:54:57 AM
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STOP SHIATTING DOWN THE BACK WINDOW OR YOU GET THE HOSE
 
2012-04-29 03:56:06 AM
If the GOP wants to run on "We Are The One Percent" with Mitt as their poster boy, have at it. I'm not seeing much beyond that with his candidacy. What else do they legitimately have to offer?
 
2012-04-29 03:56:12 AM
Didn't Romney have a fairly pragmatic record as the MA Governor? He is certainly no ideologue, nor a puppet. I would actually expect him to be a fairly centrist president who would be fair less captured and effective than GWB. I also don't think he a religious stalking horse for the evangelical right, nor a war monger for the neocons.
 
2012-04-29 03:57:18 AM

jjorsett: Unfortunately for the left, Romney isn't corrupt, stupid, a closeted gay, a racist or incompetent.


But he is a Republican, which in this age is pretty much the kiss of death outside of the Bible thumping states.
 
2012-04-29 03:57:44 AM
More for us to drink...
 
2012-04-29 03:57:50 AM

A Terrible Human: rynthetyn: A Terrible Human: rynthetyn: That would be something that would make Romneybot mildly interesting.

That's honestly his main problem besides his ever present awkwardness. He's just so farking boring to watch.

He makes Al Gore and John Kerry look positively charismatic.

Holy shiat that's exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that.


Great minds think alike, eh?
 
2012-04-29 04:14:14 AM

Harry_Seldon: I also don't think he a religious stalking horse for the evangelical right, nor a war monger for the neocons.


If I'm remembering correctly didn't Free Republic have a hardon for Gingrich? I wonder how many were disillusioned by this whole primary?

rynthetyn: Great minds think alike, eh?


I imagine that if you got those three in a room together you'd be asleep within 5 minutes from the sheer amount of boring in the room.
 
2012-04-29 04:21:12 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: MorrisBird: I hereby declare this "not a Mormon bashing thread." This is a Mitt Romney bashing thread. I know Mormons who are not complete assholes. Mitt Romney is a complete asshole.

I've met a lot of Mormons that were truly good people at heart. I would rather be surrounded by Mormons trying to spread the word rather than Christians trying to spread the word. From my experience, when I've told a Mormon that I was fine without religion and I appreciated their concern, they were okay with it and that was the end of it. I've never been threatened or badgered by a Mormon; I can't say that for Christians.

/Romney's a sociopath


Honestly, when I lived alone some years ago, I enjoyed inviting the Mormon door-to-door proselytizers to discuss what they had to say. Offer them refreshments, sit down, have a conversation.

/atheist
//very atheist
 
2012-04-29 04:32:10 AM

LavenderWolf: Don't Troll Me Bro!: MorrisBird: I hereby declare this "not a Mormon bashing thread." This is a Mitt Romney bashing thread. I know Mormons who are not complete assholes. Mitt Romney is a complete asshole.

I've met a lot of Mormons that were truly good people at heart. I would rather be surrounded by Mormons trying to spread the word rather than Christians trying to spread the word. From my experience, when I've told a Mormon that I was fine without religion and I appreciated their concern, they were okay with it and that was the end of it. I've never been threatened or badgered by a Mormon; I can't say that for Christians.

/Romney's a sociopath

Honestly, when I lived alone some years ago, I enjoyed inviting the Mormon door-to-door proselytizers to discuss what they had to say. Offer them refreshments, sit down, have a conversation.

/atheist
//very atheist


An artist friend used to do the same with the JW's, under the same circumstances. He said they had some interesting conversations, sometimes for hours. They never converted him, of course, and they generally left somewhat baffled, according to him.
 
2012-04-29 05:14:10 AM
which is weirder, the average mormon who doesn't drink or smoke cigarettes, or the average member of mr. obama's previous church, where the preacher expressed radical anti-american views, as well as "if lovin' the lord is wrong then i don't wanna be right, god bless"? amen amen praise the lord.
 
2012-04-29 06:07:28 AM

proteus_b: radical anti-american views


Describe "anti-american views" without using the words god, damn, against or america.
 
2012-04-29 06:10:02 AM

johne3819: Bucky Katt: Mitt is Al Gore without the charisma.

So he WINS Florida?


Yeah, but the SCOTUS yoinks it from him at the last moment.
 
2012-04-29 06:14:14 AM

proteus_b: which is weirder, the average mormon who doesn't drink or smoke cigarettes, or the average member of mr. obama's previous church, where the preacher expressed radical anti-american views, as well as "if lovin' the lord is wrong then i don't wanna be right, god bless"? amen amen praise the lord.


Don't most churches express anti-American views? Indeed, is not the view that a man's soul and the fruits of his labor belong not to him, but to some invisible force in the sky, PROFOUNDLY anti-American?
 
2012-04-29 06:40:47 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I think that some not liking beer is a pretty stupid reason to criticize them. Shows how some people will use any excuse they can, no matter how ridiculous, to criticize someone they don't like.

/likes beer
//and whiskey
 
2012-04-29 07:13:03 AM
Uh, so what?

Who can say truthfully that the first time they tasted beer, they thought 'awesome taste!'?
 
2012-04-29 07:15:05 AM
Oh, and also apparently mormons can't drink or have cigarettes.

What's wrong with that exactly?

Would people in this thread criticizing him for not liking beer if he was a Muslim? I don't think so.
 
2012-04-29 07:26:07 AM
If he's like the mormons I know, he doesn't drink, but he harshly judges those who do and holds them in deep contempt.
 
2012-04-29 07:26:38 AM

jso2897: Don't most churches express anti-American views? Indeed, is not the view that a man's soul and the fruits of his labor belong not to him, but to some invisible force in the sky, PROFOUNDLY anti-American?


i believe that churches whose pastors cheer on the violent deaths of american civilians as well deserved tend to be outside of the mainstream.
 
2012-04-29 07:32:56 AM

Tatsuma: Uh, so what?

Who can say truthfully that the first time they tasted beer, they thought 'awesome taste!'?


Personally, I don't give a shiat that he doesn't drink. But it's another comparison to Kerry: Kerry lost largely because Bush was the candidate you could 'have a beer with'. So now, not only does Romney have the charisma of moldy cardboard, but he's the candidate you *can't* have a beer with.

For better or for worse, modern elections are won with charisma. Obama is very charismatic, and Romney is...not.
 
2012-04-29 07:51:52 AM

LordJiro: Tatsuma: Uh, so what?

Who can say truthfully that the first time they tasted beer, they thought 'awesome taste!'?

Personally, I don't give a shiat that he doesn't drink. But it's another comparison to Kerry: Kerry lost largely because Bush was the candidate you could 'have a beer with'. So now, not only does Romney have the charisma of moldy cardboard, but he's the candidate you *can't* have a beer with.

For better or for worse, modern elections are won with charisma. Obama is very charismatic, and Romney is...not.


He's the guy you can't even have a cookie with without him being a dick about it.

Link

And yet his campaign will futilely try to paint him as a candidate who can connect with the people. It's quite comical to watch really, just to see how he can one up himself.
 
2012-04-29 07:56:17 AM

NDP2: Anyway, I say we fark Romney and make this a beer snob thread.


I wouldn't fark him with your dick and your momma pushing.

/son, you're on your own.
 
2012-04-29 08:05:27 AM
This guy makes Rain Man look like Ferris Bueller.
 
2012-04-29 08:09:42 AM

Tatsuma: Oh, and also apparently mormons can't drink or have cigarettes.

What's wrong with that exactly?

Would people in this thread criticizing him for not liking beer if he was a Muslim? I don't think so.


The article was about how Mitt has difficulty connecting with people, not so much his love or distaste for beer, and that is really the crux of the issue. He is an odd duck. Not because he's a Mormon--after my sojourn out West, I got to know a LOT of Mormons, and overall, they're good folks--but because he lacks any real point of reference to deal with people below a certain level of income and class. He tries to put on a folksy face, and while some folks can pull it off, Mitt has zero ability to understand what people unlike himself feel or do.

THAT worries me a bit. He can't understand folks, and he wants to represent them? That's not really going to happen. He will wind up representing what he might imagine people want, and he's willing to pander, badly, to try to convince them that he "feels their pain" but he just isn't wired for it. It's not that he's an inelegant speaker, but that he lacks the capability to understand other peoples' experiences, and that translates badly for an elected representative. In my mind, it actively disqualifies one for elected office. And Mitt keeps proving this, over and over again...
 
2012-04-29 08:10:12 AM
Mix up here... this is the beer drinking, fun loving and personality filled Rep. gov you were looking for... only R I have ever actually voted for
media2.myfoxboston.com
 
2012-04-29 08:15:06 AM
A Stepford candidate with a Stepford wife. Something every american can relate to.
 
2012-04-29 08:18:30 AM

Harry_Seldon: Didn't Romney have a fairly pragmatic record as the MA Governor? He is certainly no ideologue, nor a puppet. I would actually expect him to be a fairly centrist president who would be fair less captured and effective than GWB. I also don't think he a religious stalking horse for the evangelical right, nor a war monger for the neocons.


No one knows who he really is. Remember yes he was Gov. of MA but the legislature in MA was and is heavily D and if I am not mistaken pretty much veto proof. He was elected because we loved the old R Gov. and it lulled us into thinking that it was ok to have an R as Gov.
 
2012-04-29 08:18:40 AM

tartie_pants: Mix up here... this is the beer drinking, fun loving and personality filled Rep. gov you were looking for... only R I have ever actually voted for
[media2.myfoxboston.com image 640x480]


I don't think I've ever seen a picture of a bar where no one in the picture is smiling.

Was there a funeral taking place before that pic was taken?
 
2012-04-29 08:25:48 AM

proteus_b: jso2897: Don't most churches express anti-American views? Indeed, is not the view that a man's soul and the fruits of his labor belong not to him, but to some invisible force in the sky, PROFOUNDLY anti-American?

i believe that churches whose pastors cheer on the violent deaths of american civilians as well deserved tend to be outside of the mainstream.


Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson weren't/aren't "mainstream", at least to the right wing?
 
2012-04-29 08:25:54 AM

hubiestubert: Romney was involved with the UMaine system before he left for Utah. He helped install the temporary Chancellor while I was there, my own Univerity of Maine at Farmington's President, Mike Orrenduff, who received three No Confidence votes from the staff and faculty before he was replaced. Iron Mike went back to Farmington, and is still there to this day.



I can't speak to the rest of your story, but there is no one named Orrenduff at UMF presently.
 
2012-04-29 08:27:37 AM
No that would be 7 am on St, Pat's day. You have to have the first beer before you smile. About 20 before you decide to jump in the Charles.
Possibly you have some other things too, things that make your party block your nomination as an ambassador to Mexico. Oh and if I lived in RI I would have voted Chaffee and in ME Collins and Snowe. The dying breed of sane and reasonable Rs.
 
2012-04-29 08:30:22 AM

tartie_pants: No that would be 7 am on St, Pat's day. You have to have the first beer before you smile. About 20 before you decide to jump in the Charles.


Fair enough. I still can't help but chuckle at that picture though.

tartie_pants: Oh and if I lived in RI I would have voted Chaffee and in ME Collins and Snowe. The dying breed of sane and reasonable Rs.


I don't know if I'd vote for them or not but I would surely tolerate them more than I tolerate the R's down here in Missouri.

Wished all Republicans were New England Republicans.
 
2012-04-29 08:34:11 AM

Tatsuma: Oh, and also apparently mormons can't drink or have cigarettes.

What's wrong with that exactly?

Would people in this thread criticizing him for not liking beer if he was a Muslim? I don't think so.


I would. Pretending to believe for political purposes makes sense... Being an orthodox follower of religion is a sign of mental illness.
 
2012-04-29 08:49:42 AM

Mrtraveler01: tartie_pants: No that would be 7 am on St, Pat's day. You have to have the first beer before you smile. About 20 before you decide to jump in the Charles.

Fair enough. I still can't help but chuckle at that picture though.

tartie_pants: Oh and if I lived in RI I would have voted Chaffee and in ME Collins and Snowe. The dying breed of sane and reasonable Rs.

I don't know if I'd vote for them or not but I would surely tolerate them more than I tolerate the R's down here in Missouri.

Wished all Republicans were New England Republicans.


You mean sane? Chaffee publicly stated he wouldn't and didn't vote for Bush because his policies were awful. I remember his interview on the Daily Show after he lost in 08. Stewart wanted to take him home and give him cookies he felt so bad for the guy, The campaign was weird his opponent really couldn't attack his views, they had the same ones. He basically ran on the you want all Rs out platform. It was perhaps the calmest race ever. The candidates kids were all best friends at school and gasp! the two candidates felt they needed to be civil given their connections. Stewart asked Chaffee why he stayed in the party. Chaffee said it was his party and he would be damned if he was going to let crazy people drive him out.

Now that the crazy has doubled down I wonder what he thinks now.
 
2012-04-29 08:50:09 AM
www.wasatchbeers.com

Youse slippin fark
 
2012-04-29 08:54:35 AM

tartie_pants: Mrtraveler01: tartie_pants: No that would be 7 am on St, Pat's day. You have to have the first beer before you smile. About 20 before you decide to jump in the Charles.

Fair enough. I still can't help but chuckle at that picture though.

tartie_pants: Oh and if I lived in RI I would have voted Chaffee and in ME Collins and Snowe. The dying breed of sane and reasonable Rs.

I don't know if I'd vote for them or not but I would surely tolerate them more than I tolerate the R's down here in Missouri.

Wished all Republicans were New England Republicans.

You mean sane? Chaffee publicly stated he wouldn't and didn't vote for Bush because his policies were awful. I remember his interview on the Daily Show after he lost in 08. Stewart wanted to take him home and give him cookies he felt so bad for the guy, The campaign was weird his opponent really couldn't attack his views, they had the same ones. He basically ran on the you want all Rs out platform. It was perhaps the calmest race ever. The candidates kids were all best friends at school and gasp! the two candidates felt they needed to be civil given their connections. Stewart asked Chaffee why he stayed in the party. Chaffee said it was his party and he would be damned if he was going to let crazy people drive him out.

Now that the crazy has doubled down I wonder what he thinks now.


Whoops 04 need more coffee
 
2012-04-29 09:00:48 AM

tartie_pants: Mrtraveler01: tartie_pants: No that would be 7 am on St, Pat's day. You have to have the first beer before you smile. About 20 before you decide to jump in the Charles.

Fair enough. I still can't help but chuckle at that picture though.

tartie_pants: Oh and if I lived in RI I would have voted Chaffee and in ME Collins and Snowe. The dying breed of sane and reasonable Rs.

I don't know if I'd vote for them or not but I would surely tolerate them more than I tolerate the R's down here in Missouri.

Wished all Republicans were New England Republicans.

You mean sane? Chaffee publicly stated he wouldn't and didn't vote for Bush because his policies were awful. I remember his interview on the Daily Show after he lost in 08. Stewart wanted to take him home and give him cookies he felt so bad for the guy, The campaign was weird his opponent really couldn't attack his views, they had the same ones. He basically ran on the you want all Rs out platform. It was perhaps the calmest race ever. The candidates kids were all best friends at school and gasp! the two candidates felt they needed to be civil given their connections. Stewart asked Chaffee why he stayed in the party. Chaffee said it was his party and he would be damned if he was going to let crazy people drive him out.

Now that the crazy has doubled down I wonder what he thinks now.


And it's penetrating into New England it seems. Don't forget Maine and their governor who asked for a mural to be moved from the labor office because he was afraid it would offend businesses that visit the State Capital.
 
2012-04-29 09:07:51 AM

Pavia_Resistance: Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson weren't/aren't "mainstream", at least to the right wing?


My sister watches the 700 club which baffles me because she's Mormon but on the other hand it's not so confusing if I think about it in political terms considering she's a Republican.

Mrtraveler01: He's the guy you can't even have a cookie with without him being a dick about it.


That's really kinda farked up when you think about it and says a hell of alot about his personality. Some Republicans like to paint Obama as an elitist over arugula or Dijon mustard but their candidate can't even eat a farking cookie at a staged event without coming off as a douche?
 
2012-04-29 09:11:00 AM

fracto73: hubiestubert: Romney was involved with the UMaine system before he left for Utah. He helped install the temporary Chancellor while I was there, my own Univerity of Maine at Farmington's President, Mike Orrenduff, who received three No Confidence votes from the staff and faculty before he was replaced. Iron Mike went back to Farmington, and is still there to this day.


I can't speak to the rest of your story, but there is no one named Orrenduff at UMF presently.


Did Mike finally move on? Good. Man was a blight. Wife was sweet enough, but Mike was a smarmy little bastiche of a man.
 
2012-04-29 09:14:20 AM

hubiestubert: fracto73: hubiestubert: Romney was involved with the UMaine system before he left for Utah. He helped install the temporary Chancellor while I was there, my own Univerity of Maine at Farmington's President, Mike Orrenduff, who received three No Confidence votes from the staff and faculty before he was replaced. Iron Mike went back to Farmington, and is still there to this day.


I can't speak to the rest of your story, but there is no one named Orrenduff at UMF presently.

Did Mike finally move on? Good. Man was a blight. Wife was sweet enough, but Mike was a smarmy little bastiche of a man.



I was a student in 2000, The President at the time was a woman named Theo. She is retiring this year.
 
2012-04-29 09:28:30 AM

A Terrible Human: Mrtraveler01: He's the guy you can't even have a cookie with without him being a dick about it.

That's really kinda farked up when you think about it and says a hell of alot about his personality. Some Republicans like to paint Obama as an elitist over arugula or Dijon mustard but their candidate can't even eat a farking cookie at a staged event without coming off as a douche?


The funny thing is this is the same bakery I've gotten birthday cakes from when I go to visit my grandparents.

What a small world.
 
2012-04-29 09:33:15 AM

fracto73: I was a student in 2000, The President at the time was a woman named Theo. She is retiring this year.


To be fair, I was surprised when I Googled him, and the article stated he was still there. His term as Chancellor was just miserable, and he just seemed galled at returning to UMF after.
 
2012-04-29 09:38:49 AM

hubiestubert: fracto73: I was a student in 2000, The President at the time was a woman named Theo. She is retiring this year.

To be fair, I was surprised when I Googled him, and the article stated he was still there. His term as Chancellor was just miserable, and he just seemed galled at returning to UMF after.



Maybe I looked in the wrong place and your google-fu is stronger.
 
2012-04-29 09:50:22 AM

proteus_b: jso2897: Don't most churches express anti-American views? Indeed, is not the view that a man's soul and the fruits of his labor belong not to him, but to some invisible force in the sky, PROFOUNDLY anti-American?

i believe that churches whose pastors cheer on the violent deaths of american civilians as well deserved tend to be outside of the mainstream.


Well, everybody has to believe something. I believe I'll have another cup of coffee.
 
2012-04-29 10:06:52 AM

Mrtraveler01:
And it's penetrating into New England it seems. Don't forget Maine and their governor who asked for a mural to be moved from the labor office because he was afraid it would offend businesses that visit the State Capital.


You've probably seen this before, but LePage did only win with ~1/3 of the vote. Unfortunately Maine doesn't have any recall mechanism. A Democratic brought a bill introducing one forward around the same time as the mural kerfuffle but she waffled when she was accused of being 'partisan' saying that she didn't have any specific person in mind.

/One of the most embarrassing political fails I've ever heard of.
 
2012-04-29 10:09:02 AM
*a Democratic legislator
 
2012-04-29 10:14:13 AM

fracto73: hubiestubert: fracto73: I was a student in 2000, The President at the time was a woman named Theo. She is retiring this year.

To be fair, I was surprised when I Googled him, and the article stated he was still there. His term as Chancellor was just miserable, and he just seemed galled at returning to UMF after.


Maybe I looked in the wrong place and your google-fu is stronger.


When I was there we welcomed Mike with a dinner at Purington Hall--it was only half a floor of guys, and most upper classmen, and we were considered the party hall--and tried to establish good relations with the new President. He then turned around and cracked down on damn near everything, and wound up presiding over the first sit in protest on UMF grounds in years. One fella got booted for doing something stupid, and was given an hour to clear out and be off premises. No one argued his being removed from campus housing, but the time frame was ridiculous for setting off a fire extinguisher in the hall, and the word came down to the RAs to have his stuff put on the front steps while he was trying to file his appeal. It was not a good beginning to his time there. We almost cheered when he went off to be interim Chancellor, and then he wound up borking the whole system with idiocy and looking to slice faculty, resources, and more. Mike wound up driving a lot of folks to off campus housing, which was great for the apartment owners in town, but then the town realized that a lot of off campus housing meant a lot of off campus drinking, and his crackdown on on campus drinking forced even more problems onto the town. He ushered in a whole new low for relations between the University and the town--and on top of that, he ratcheted up tensions between on campus organizations by trying to defund the LGBT group on campus, while trying to defend the actions of some of the interfaith groups that wound up getting into hot water about charges of date rape. Man was just a pimple on the butt of the campus...
 
2012-04-29 10:33:49 AM

MorrisBird: You theists seem to get crucified a lot.


That's "poly"-theist to you :-)
 
2012-04-29 10:36:14 AM

proteus_b: which is weirder, the average mormon who doesn't drink or smoke cigarettes, or the average member of mr. obama's previous church, where the preacher expressed radical anti-american views, as well as "if lovin' the lord is wrong then i don't wanna be right, god bless"? amen amen praise the lord.


Yeah, but Obama's a secret muslim atheist so he wasn't really part of that church, amirite?

/I've known a lot of Mormons
//generally nice guys, if a bit awkward
///Mitt Romney is awkward and weird above and beyond his Mormon-ness.
 
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