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(The Hollywood Reporter)   NBC pulls its newest sitcom. No, not that one. Or that one. Something called Best Friends Forever   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 81
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2012-04-28 03:20:42 PM
Never heard of it.....nor did most of America it seems.
 
2012-04-28 03:23:33 PM
This is one of those rare decisions by execs that make sense when programming television. It was only second to Whitney in how awful it was.
 
2012-04-28 03:33:03 PM
How can a show with a handful of young, attractive, smart-assy urban people, filled with sexual innuendo and the correct number of ethnicities, fail? HOW?

/never heard of it, but amirite?
 
2012-04-28 03:33:13 PM
I must have missed the massive ad campaign. What was the leading? Community?

/love Community, just realistic about the numbers.
 
2012-04-28 03:35:42 PM
Yeah, the good show that was on that NBC barely promoted and should have been promoting the heck out of instead of crap like Whitney.
 
2012-04-28 03:55:54 PM
Gosh! Networks put up shows like LA Complex and Bent without any promotion besides a half page ad in Entertainment Weekly, and they flop anyway? How could this be?
 
2012-04-28 03:57:45 PM
NBC can do whatever they want to whatever shows they have, just as long as I can get six seasons and a movie out of Community.

I mean, seriously. Who else discusses Whitney in terms other than "Sweet merciful crepes on a waffle, Whitney sucks on all conceivable levels"?
 
2012-04-28 04:04:43 PM
So nothing of value was lost....
 
2012-04-28 04:06:38 PM

Apos: So nothing of value was lost....


*clicks article*

"Next week, an original episode of hidden-camera series Betty White's Off Their Rockers will air in BFF's Wednesday 8:30 p.m. slot."

I think we gained, actually.
 
2012-04-28 04:09:16 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: So nothing of value was lost....

*clicks article*

"Next week, an original episode of hidden-camera series Betty White's Off Their Rockers will air in BFF's Wednesday 8:30 p.m. slot."

I think we gained, actually.


Perhaps....
 
2012-04-28 04:13:55 PM
That was actually funny. Too bad. "Bent" was even better and got an even worse shake from the network.
 
2012-04-28 04:14:02 PM
Couldn't possibly be as bad as ABC's 'Work It'.

blogs.laweekly.com

Or could it?
 
2012-04-28 04:18:35 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I mean, seriously. Who else discusses Whitney in terms other than "Sweet merciful crepes on a waffle, Whitney sucks on all conceivable levels"?


Have they officially canceled that or the equally insipid Chelsea show?
 
2012-04-28 04:21:42 PM

The English Major: Have they officially canceled that or the equally insipid Chelsea show?


I've heard nothing on either.
 
2012-04-28 04:21:56 PM

The English Major: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I mean, seriously. Who else discusses Whitney in terms other than "Sweet merciful crepes on a waffle, Whitney sucks on all conceivable levels"?

Have they officially canceled that or the equally insipid Chelsea show?


I have enjoyed individual episodes of Whitney but the few episodes of Chelsea's show that I have seen have all inspired me to change the channel to insipid sitcoms on other networks. And I like drunken sluts.
 
Skr
2012-04-28 04:25:41 PM
www.hollywoodreporter.com
That is a scary looking couple of... well whatever they are.



/something something edgar suits.
 
2012-04-28 04:28:26 PM

JosephFinn: Yeah, the good show that was on that NBC barely promoted and should have been promoting the heck out of instead of crap like Whitney.


My feeling exactly. The show they cancelled has complexity and real characters. They kept Whitney.
 
2012-04-28 04:31:22 PM

Skr: www.hollywoodreporter.com
That is a scary looking couple of... well whatever they are.



/something something edgar suits.


THEY WANT SUGAR.

IN WATER.
 
2012-04-28 04:39:04 PM

DeaH: JosephFinn: Yeah, the good show that was on that NBC barely promoted and should have been promoting the heck out of instead of crap like Whitney.

My feeling exactly. The show they cancelled has complexity and real characters. They kept Whitney.


And a Wolverines chair that for some reason cracked me up.
 
2012-04-28 04:39:13 PM

offmymeds: Couldn't possibly be as bad as ABC's 'Work It'.

[blogs.laweekly.com image 364x350]

Or could it?


I'd say that's not even possible,but I know NBC will quickly prove me wrong with an even more inane sitcom premise.
 
2012-04-28 04:45:52 PM

The English Major: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I mean, seriously. Who else discusses Whitney in terms other than "Sweet merciful crepes on a waffle, Whitney sucks on all conceivable levels"?

Have they officially canceled that or the equally insipid Chelsea show?


Not officially. But saying that both shows are "On the Bubble" would be overly generous.
 
2012-04-28 04:52:48 PM
They should cancel 2 broke girls.
 
2012-04-28 05:01:20 PM
This and 'Bent' were actually pretty okay, but they got absolutely zero advertising push from the network.

I found about Bent when Jeffery Tambor went on the Today Show two days before the show aired, and BFF got an occasional ad once a night that made it look to be on the same level as the Chelsea Handler show and Whitney. I don't know why they keep greenlighting decent shows and letting them die like this.
 
2012-04-28 05:19:39 PM
If it doesn't have James Van Der Beek, it isn't worth watching.
 
2012-04-28 05:19:53 PM

fusillade762: The English Major: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I mean, seriously. Who else discusses Whitney in terms other than "Sweet merciful crepes on a waffle, Whitney sucks on all conceivable levels"?

Have they officially canceled that or the equally insipid Chelsea show?

Not officially. But saying that both shows are "On the Bubble" would be overly generous.


Time for them to burst those damn bubbles,change clothes and start afresh.
 
2012-04-28 05:22:12 PM

JosephFinn: DeaH: JosephFinn: Yeah, the good show that was on that NBC barely promoted and should have been promoting the heck out of instead of crap like Whitney.

My feeling exactly. The show they cancelled has complexity and real characters. They kept Whitney.

And a Wolverines chair that for some reason cracked me up.


Yeah, I like the way the character who over-indulged in her falling-apart-ness blew the chair up without a pump. It was nice to see actual female friendship, not the catty thing that passes for it on TV. It was nice to see male characters who are right to be exasperated, and it was nice to see the female characters acknowledged it and try to do something about it.

I am not trying to say the show was perfect, but I think getting to know those people would be interesting.
 
2012-04-28 05:25:12 PM
I liked the characters and the general setup of two friends in their 30's but moving your best friend in with you when you have a live in boyfriend is ridiculous.

Lennon Parham's character was the cool/hot/nerdy girl and was very likeable. Jessica St. Clair's character was the total helpless blond in the Balki crap story line. Rework her as a whole person and make the show more ensemble and less blond helplessness rewarded, ...of course promote it too.

I liked Traffic Light and still like Happy Endings, Cougar Town etc., but each has similar issues, but at least they have a better developed ensemble to rely on.

St. Clair's character could easily be more Dee from Always Sunny in Philadelphia or the same character but with a job and a different address even if just across the street.

The fate of comedies without a crappy laugh track is on the bubble. Please support comedies designed in a post-Arrested Development 21 century, and not warmed over Three's Company, Perfect Strangers and Whitney/Chelsea.

I'd also prefer a frontal lobotomy to more reality shows/hidden camera shows/cop-detective shows etc.
 
2012-04-28 05:27:27 PM

TheManofPA: If it doesn't have James Van Der Beek, it isn't worth watching.




That "Don't Trust the B..." show looks more painful than Whitney.
 
2012-04-28 05:28:43 PM

Scythed: This and 'Bent' were actually pretty okay, but they got absolutely zero advertising push from the network.

I found about Bent when Jeffery Tambor went on the Today Show two days before the show aired, and BFF got an occasional ad once a night that made it look to be on the same level as the Chelsea Handler show and Whitney. I don't know why they keep greenlighting decent shows and letting them die like this.


I'd guess the crap ones are easier to produce/create, or bring in more money.

The 'good' ones are just shots across the bow, if they stick and get an insane cult following (ala Firefly) the network wins. If they flail around and fail, the network still wins because it can both claim it's trying for artistic integrity, and failing because 'viewers clearly don't want that', and they free up that slot to try again next season. Or they just fill the slot with random crap and sell ads anyway.
 
2012-04-28 05:31:00 PM

FeedTheCollapse: TheManofPA: If it doesn't have James Van Der Beek, it isn't worth watching.



That "Don't Trust the B..." show looks more painful than Whitney.


It actually delivers. Full frontal (sadly blurred) female nudity in episode one. Hot lesbian ass-slapping in the last episode. Best I can describe is that the farkers who liked Happy Endings will be the ones who would like it. And of course James Van Der Beek delivers just like how he welcomes you to fark.

/to answer your question: it's the opposite of Whitney
//so a child, not an abortion
 
2012-04-28 05:31:53 PM
i4.fc-img.com

The best new sitcom this season is on A&E. It's like 'Arrested Development' meets 'The Beverly Hillbillies' in a swamp.
 
2012-04-28 05:40:19 PM

TheManofPA: FeedTheCollapse: TheManofPA: If it doesn't have James Van Der Beek, it isn't worth watching.

That "Don't Trust the B..." show looks more painful than Whitney.

It actually delivers. Full frontal (sadly blurred) female nudity in episode one. Hot lesbian ass-slapping in the last episode. Best I can describe is that the farkers who liked Happy Endings will be the ones who would like it. And of course James Van Der Beek delivers just like how he welcomes you to fark.

/to answer your question: it's the opposite of Whitney
//so a child, not an abortion


I have the first couple eps of that recorded but I haven't watched them yet. I'll have to get to them soon.
 
2012-04-28 06:04:22 PM

offmymeds: Couldn't possibly be as bad as ABC's 'Work It'.

[blogs.laweekly.com image 364x350]

Or could it?


That looks like a rehash of that old Tom Hanks show Bosom Buddies.

Yes, Tom Hanks was in a television show in which he cross-dressed.

blogs.tvland.com
 
2012-04-28 06:11:30 PM

StrikitRich: [i4.fc-img.com image 590x295]
The best new sitcom this season is on A&E. It's like 'Arrested Development' meets 'The Beverly Hillbillies' in a swamp.


Oh FFS. I saw a promo of that somewhere. It was a nightmare.

All those guys used to be hot, then when they got rich they thought they turned into ZZ Top.
 
2012-04-28 06:13:31 PM
If NBC hadn't been so busy inventing the "Sh*tcom," they wouldn't be having this problem.
 
2012-04-28 06:14:02 PM

FeedTheCollapse: TheManofPA: If it doesn't have James Van Der Beek, it isn't worth watching.

That "Don't Trust the B..." show looks more painful than Whitney.


It's funny. The Beek delivers.
 
2012-04-28 06:15:01 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Skr: www.hollywoodreporter.com
That is a scary looking couple of... well whatever they are.



/something something edgar suits.

THEY WANT SUGAR.

IN WATER.


I've never seen sugar do that.
 
2012-04-28 06:24:57 PM

TheManofPA: FeedTheCollapse: TheManofPA: If it doesn't have James Van Der Beek, it isn't worth watching.



That "Don't Trust the B..." show looks more painful than Whitney.

It actually delivers. Full frontal (sadly blurred) female nudity in episode one. Hot lesbian ass-slapping in the last episode. Best I can describe is that the farkers who liked Happy Endings will be the ones who would like it. And of course James Van Der Beek delivers just like how he welcomes you to fark.

/to answer your question: it's the opposite of Whitney
//so a child, not an abortion


Agreed. It's a fairly thin premise, but just like with Happy Endings there's something about it that's working. Plus, James Van Der Beek is hilarious.
 
2012-04-28 06:29:51 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I must have missed the massive ad campaign. What was the leading? Community?

/love Community, just realistic about the numbers.


That Law & Order parody was genius and dead on... I loved the Leslie Hendrix (Dr. Rodgers on the mothership) cameo...
 
2012-04-28 06:34:03 PM

Paris1127: JasonOfOrillia: I must have missed the massive ad campaign. What was the leading? Community?

/love Community, just realistic about the numbers.

That Law & Order parody was genius and dead on... I loved the Leslie Hendrix (Dr. Rodgers on the mothership) cameo...


The Law and Order reference felt cold at first but I really warmed up to it at the end. The inclusion of Michael Ironside was brilliant. Starburns was tragic.
 
2012-04-28 06:40:43 PM
On the subject of NBC sitcoms. 30 Rock's live show had some really great gut-busting laughs, especially the John Hamm and Tracy Morgan sketch.
 
2012-04-28 06:55:40 PM

browntimmy: On the subject of NBC sitcoms. 30 Rock's live show had some really great gut-busting laughs, especially the John Hamm and Tracy Morgan sketch.


eh, I didn't really like that episode. it felt like a series of sketches rather than an unified show. The past season has been really hit or miss.
 
2012-04-28 07:01:43 PM
I liked Best Friends Forever. I read that they scripted a lot of the pilot by just recording themselves acting everything out as a natural conversation and then writing it all down and editing out the less funny bits, it was why they sounded more like people who talk to each other not like characters in a TV show.
Nice characters who're mostly just chilling out and trying to get through things.
NBC just hates shows that start with the letter B this year, hopefully they aren't going in Alphabetical order because that means Community is next and Whitney will last for another 21 years.
 
2012-04-28 07:08:45 PM

BumpInTheNight: I've never seen sugar do that.


They *might* have gotten their pudding faces on.


JasonOfOrillia: Paris1127: JasonOfOrillia: I must have missed the massive ad campaign. What was the leading? Community?

/love Community, just realistic about the numbers.

That Law & Order parody was genius and dead on... I loved the Leslie Hendrix (Dr. Rodgers on the mothership) cameo...

The Law and Order reference felt cold at first but I really warmed up to it at the end. The inclusion of Michael Ironside was brilliant. Starburns was tragic.


There was so much to love about that Community episode.

References to The Wire, Troy and Abed's "why do they always run?" thing, MICHAEL FRIGGIN' IRONSIDE, and that ending... just...

I *heart* this show.
 
2012-04-28 07:13:24 PM

cryinoutloud: StrikitRich: [i4.fc-img.com image 590x295]
The best new sitcom this season is on A&E. It's like 'Arrested Development' meets 'The Beverly Hillbillies' in a swamp.

Oh FFS. I saw a promo of that somewhere. It was a nightmare.

All those guys used to be hot, then when they got rich they thought they turned into ZZ Top.


I'd never heard of it until Phil & Willie were on with Conan. If you watch the show thinking it's a reality show then you'll just think it's absurd, but if you watch it like it's a mock documentary then it's absurdly great. I really believe that these guys are students of Christopher Guest.
 
2012-04-28 07:34:30 PM
Meanwhile, Super Best Friends Forever is among the most-fun new shows on Cartoon Network -- even though its 'episodes' are only one minute long, each (it airs as interstitials between full-length cartoon series during the DC Nation weekend block). The show is designed and presided-over by Lauren Faust (of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and The Powerpuff Girls fame).

There's only been three episodes, so far .. focusing on Wonder Girl, Batgirl and Supergirl, respectively. Each episode makes the most of its brief airtime .. but definitely leaves the viewer wanting more..!

SBFFs could break-out into its own full-length show, eventually. There are actually quite a few successful TV series that got their start as 'micro-toons': The Simpsons, Beavis & Butt-head and Star Wars: The Clone Wars come to mind. With that said, Cartoon Network has made some 'bone-headed' decisions during the past few years (adding several 'live-action' shows, and unceremoniously cancelling one of its most-promising action cartoons: Genndy Tartakovsky's Sym-Bionic Titan) .. so, who knows.
 
2012-04-28 07:39:30 PM
The pilot was terrible.
 
2012-04-28 07:53:31 PM

JosephFinn: Yeah, the good show that was on that NBC barely promoted and should have been promoting the heck out of instead of crap like Whitney.


The good Whitney died while the bad Whitney lives on. There is no God.
 
2012-04-28 08:26:24 PM

JasonOfOrillia: Paris1127: JasonOfOrillia: I must have missed the massive ad campaign. What was the leading? Community?

/love Community, just realistic about the numbers.

That Law & Order parody was genius and dead on... I loved the Leslie Hendrix (Dr. Rodgers on the mothership) cameo...

The Law and Order reference felt cold at first but I really warmed up to it at the end. The inclusion of Michael Ironside was brilliant. Starburns was tragic.


Hmmm...it was kind of the opposite for me. I thought it started out fantastic (nice touch having Abed and Troy dressed like Briscoe and Logan) but for me, it faded toward the end.

Wait, so is Bent cancelled? That wasn't half bad...and the sister was hot.
 
2012-04-28 09:01:12 PM
Maybe it's time the networks do what they're really good at doing. Importing a British comedy and completely destroying all humor in their American rip-off.
 
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