Gawdzila: ontariolightning: Those are 5 mins + game in the past .. or are you new to hockey?

Not at all. But I don't think that looked worse than a thousand minor boarding penalties I've seen before *shrug*.

Gawdzila: ontariolightning: Those are 5 mins + game in the past .. or are you new to hockey?

Not at all. But I don't think that looked worse than a thousand minor boarding penalties I've seen before *shrug*.

You're a Kings fan so of course you are going to think that was a good call

ontariolightning: Refs really blew that boarding.. should have been a 5 minute powerplay for the Blues.. would have been a different game
Refs won this for Kings

You're right, the Kings might have scored 2 short handed goals.

ontariolightning: Okay if its not punished maybe a Blues needs to do the same to Doughty since
its okay in your book no big deal eh?

I didn't say it was no big deal, and it IS punished. It's a boarding penalty.
But he just pushed him from behind, it didn't at all appear to be especially vicious or with any intent to injure. He didn't even hit him that hard. What's your reason for it being called a Major? The definition of boarding is hitting a player from directly behind into the boards. Do you just think that all boarding penalties should be majors, then?

ontariolightning: btw this was the same ref who bungled the torres hit on hossa

Well, you wanted consistency, right?

ontariolightning: You're a Kings fan so of course you are going to think that was a good call

I'm just asking what makes that one a major compared to any other case of boarding?

Gawdzila: ontariolightning: Okay if its not punished maybe a Blues needs to do the same to Doughty since
its okay in your book no big deal eh?

I didn't say it was no big deal, and it IS punished. It's a boarding penalty.
But he just pushed him from behind, it didn't at all appear to be especially vicious or with any intent to injure. He didn't even hit him that hard. What's your reason for it being called a Major? The definition of boarding is hitting a player from directly behind into the boards. Do you just think that all boarding penalties should be majors, then?

And a push from behind is no big deal? You don't push a player from behind who is a foot from the boards.. you just don't do that because that is how you break someones neck

ontariolightning: Refs won this for Kings

The Blues had their power play chances; the Kings scored on them, though.

They just got outplayed for at least 1.5 periods out of 3, and didn't even come out of the period they DID own with a lead. But yeah, sure -- they lost mostly because they didn't get an extra 3 minutes of PP against one of the best PK teams (who scored the winning goal while the Blues were on the PP). Lol. Riiiight.

Gawdzila: ontariolightning: You're a Kings fan so of course you are going to think that was a good call

I'm just asking what makes that one a major compared to any other case of boarding?

It was reckless.. he didnt turn at the last second, he was bleeding, he left the game

Ontariolightning is still bitter about that high stick to Gilmour.

Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

NotEric: Ontariolightning is still bitter about that high stick to Gilmour.

you know full well the only reason it wasn't called is cause it was Gretzky

ontariolightning: And a push from behind is no big deal? You don't push a player from behind who is a foot from the boards.. you just don't do that because that is how you break someones neck

You're just repeating with more indignation instead of answering the point I'm trying to make.

Once again... then do you think ALL boarding penalties should be Major/Game penalties? That's certainly a point you could make.
But if not... what is your criteria for making it into one, and is that the same as the criteria the ref's are supposed to use?

I agree that it was dangerous, but boarding is always dangerous. I've seen Kings players get hit like that, and but I don't expect to see any more than a boarding minor out of it. It should be a penalty, and it is. But if you want to punish people differently for the same penalty, there should at least be some criteria by which to do so.

ontariolightning: you know full well the only reason it wasn't called is cause it was Gretzky

Gawdzila: ontariolightning: You're a Kings fan so of course you are going to think that was a good call

I'm just asking what makes that one a major compared to any other case of boarding?

Got to understand that up here in Canada, it's all we'll be seeing on replays for the next couple days. There will be MANY discussions about it everywhere until we hear about what Shanahan says about it. Then we'll all be arguing about his decision about it until the next game. Everything is put under a microscope. You get to turn it off and go about your day knowing it's LA up 1 game.



ontariolightning: Refs really blew that boarding.. should have been a 5 minute powerplay for the Blues.. would have been a different game
Refs won this for Kings

While he was a few feet from the boards and went in neck first. The refs probably would've seen it better if they saw the LA player with his hands out. He didn't do that, he kept his elbow and hands down then bumped him with his shoulder. While the issue will be how he hit the boards and missed some hockey, in game, the refs can't call things on replay.

Gawdzila: ontariolightning: And a push from behind is no big deal? You don't push a player from behind who is a foot from the boards.. you just don't do that because that is how you break someones neck

You're just repeating with more indignation instead of answering the point I'm trying to make.

Once again... then do you think ALL boarding penalties should be Major/Game penalties? That's certainly a point you could make.
But if not... what is your criteria for making it into one, and is that the same as the criteria the ref's are supposed to use?

I agree that it was dangerous, but boarding is always dangerous. I've seen Kings players get hit like that, and but I don't expect to see any more than a boarding minor out of it. It should be a penalty, and it is. But if you want to punish people differently for the same penalty, there should at least be some criteria by which to do so.

All boarding hits deserve 5 mins and an ejection unless the player turns into it at the last second

NotEric: ontariolightning: you know full well the only reason it wasn't called is cause it was Gretzky

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LOL, that's a great "UMAD" face XD

ontariolightning: Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

That's 2 minutes. I don't think it warrants a major.

And no suspension. I don't think it was hard enough to get on Shanahan's radar.

FastJeff: Gawdzila: ontariolightning: You're a Kings fan so of course you are going to think that was a good call

I'm just asking what makes that one a major compared to any other case of boarding?

Got to understand that up here in Canada, it's all we'll be seeing on replays for the next couple days. There will be MANY discussions about it everywhere until we hear about what Shanahan says about it. Then we'll all be arguing about his decision about it until the next game. Everything is put under a microscope. You get to turn it off and go about your day knowing it's LA up 1 game.

Yes that is right.. and you know as well as I do that we hear how dangerous these plays are all the time.. Don Cherry talks about it all the time
I don't suspect a California hockey fan would hence his reaction that it was just a push

ontariolightning: All boarding hits deserve 5 mins and an ejection unless the player turns into it at the last second

Okay, fair enough. I'd probably agree with that, honestly, but that's just not what the rules say.
The ref's don't generally call penalties based on what they decide someone deserves.

mainstreet62: ontariolightning: Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

That's 2 minutes. I don't think it warrants a major.

And no suspension. I don't think it was hard enough to get on Shanahan's radar.

Can you explain why just 2 minutes?

ontariolightning: I don't suspect a California hockey fan would

*eyeroll*
Resorting to geographically elitist nonsense now, I see.
K, I'm out.

Ahem...

BOOO!

ontariolightning: mainstreet62: ontariolightning: Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

That's 2 minutes. I don't think it warrants a major.

And no suspension. I don't think it was hard enough to get on Shanahan's radar.

Can you explain why just 2 minutes?

Because the hit wasn't hard enough to warrant it, in addition to the fact that the hit originated sufficiently far away from the boards to be unable to cause much injury.

And by warrant "it", I mean a major and/or suspension.

Gawdzila: ontariolightning: I don't suspect a California hockey fan would

*eyeroll*
Resorting to geographically elitist nonsense now, I see.
K, I'm out.

I'm only going by your "it was just a push" . Those plays are always given attention here and since hockey is not taken seriously there I can understand why you'd say but it was just a push! they just dont talk about it there

mainstreet62: ontariolightning: mainstreet62: ontariolightning: Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

That's 2 minutes. I don't think it warrants a major.

And no suspension. I don't think it was hard enough to get on Shanahan's radar.

Can you explain why just 2 minutes?

Because the hit wasn't hard enough to warrant it, in addition to the fact that the hit originated sufficiently far away from the boards to be unable to cause much injury.

You don't watch much don cherry do you?

Just got word that the NHL is going to review the hit

ontariolightning: lets get everyone elses opinion

Didn't see that one replay from the other side with the LA dudes arm out.
But it does look more like bad luck. Pietrangelo was trying to turn to keep that slow moving puck along the boards and was pushed at just the right time. You can see his feet are sideways and a split second later, would've been able to squeeze out from under King and get the puck out. King was handcuffed, puck that deep, play the man or the puck?

Looked bad, but I still don't think he'll get any games for it. As for the on ice call... let me see if I can tell where the refs are... yeah I'm not sure he saw that arm come out. 2min is all he probably could've called from his point of view.

ontariolightning: mainstreet62: ontariolightning: mainstreet62: ontariolightning: Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

That's 2 minutes. I don't think it warrants a major.

And no suspension. I don't think it was hard enough to get on Shanahan's radar.

Can you explain why just 2 minutes?

Because the hit wasn't hard enough to warrant it, in addition to the fact that the hit originated sufficiently far away from the boards to be unable to cause much injury.

You don't watch much don cherry do you?

Is he a referee?

If your hockey knowledge (or fashion sense) comes from watching Don Cherry than you have some problems.

NotEric: If your hockey knowledge (or fashion sense) comes from watching Don Cherry than you have some problems.

Unless you're a living room ninja. Can hide in front of any curtains in the room. If not that, just jump on the nearest tablecloth.

NotEric: If your hockey knowledge (or fashion sense) comes from watching Don Cherry than you have some problems.

when it comes to hockey you wont find anyone other than maybe scotty bowman who has the amount of hockey knowledge don does

the guy is a prick but he knows his shiat

FastJeff: Unless you're a living room ninja. Can hide in front of any curtains in the room. If not that, just jump on the nearest tablecloth.



What a young Don Cherry may look like.

ontariolightning: Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

Fark. Three games, a very cheap shot.

Stopping in to earn my badge, was beachside for this one.

Go Henry Go!

I got hit like that once in juniors...I was also playing defense. I had a full face-cage and it STILL split my forehead, nose, and chin. I think I blacked out for a few seconds too. Not fun. Then I had to drive for 3 hours to get home after the game. Talk about being sore the next day!

Kings fan in this series, but dude needs a suspension...one game minimum...two likely.

ontariolightning: Heres the hit

lets get everyone elses opinion

is this 2 mins or a 5 min major? and how many game does the hitter
deserve?

Link

Should've been a major and a game. 2-3 game ban.

Nasty hit. Should have been 5 and a game.

Well, shiat. I went out tonight, got completely drunk, managed to successfully avoid the final score of the game, and came home hoping to see a Blues win. Just watched the rest on my DVR. Boo. Hopefully St. Louis can even it up in game 2!

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