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(Courier Mail)   For just $50,000 you can purchase a $195 million ship from the Defense Department. But there's just one catch: As soon as you buy it you have to dismantle it on US soil   (couriermail.com.au) divider line 115
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2012-04-28 07:53:07 AM  
I wonder what some tweeker could get for that at the scrap metal place?
 
2012-04-28 08:47:11 AM  
But it's a *stealth* ship -- so if I buy it, leap aboard and suddenly back away from the dock with the appropriate level of cat stroking and maniacal laughing how will they ever find me until I issue my demands?

On an unrelated note, does anyone know where I can get Henchman Jumpsuits?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-04-28 09:18:33 AM  
Can I play with it for a while before disposing of it within the USA?
 
2012-04-28 10:01:31 AM  
That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.
 
2012-04-28 10:05:54 AM  

WhyteRaven74: That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.


Same thing I thought of, as well.
 
2012-04-28 10:12:12 AM  

WhyteRaven74: That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.


It makes sense when you consider that the Navy might not have the facilities to scrap it themselves and just want someone to take it off their hands and free up a drydock.

So they're just organizing a scrap auction to get the most they can for it.
 
2012-04-28 10:16:00 AM  

Rincewind53: WhyteRaven74: That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.

It makes sense when you consider that the Navy might not have the facilities to scrap it themselves and just want someone to take it off their hands and free up a drydock.

So they're just organizing a scrap auction to get the most they can for it.


Ok, but when you take into account the the cost for dis-assembly, will you make enough money once you sell off the scrap?
 
2012-04-28 10:22:18 AM  
Can't we just give it to Iran or something?
 
2012-04-28 10:23:37 AM  
WhyteRaven74: That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.

Selling it for Scrap.
 
2012-04-28 10:24:03 AM  
Just tell em to call 2 brother scrap metal!!!!!
 
2012-04-28 10:24:12 AM  

Trance750:

Ok, but when you take into account the the cost for dis-assembly, will you make enough money once you sell off the scrap?


From the article, there's about 3million in scrap there.
 
2012-04-28 10:24:31 AM  
Will only buy it if I'm allowed to take it for a test spin. You know, to check the wheels, mount the Zargon death ray and annihilate a town or two.
 
2012-04-28 10:24:41 AM  

WhyteRaven74: That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.


That's pretty common, especially for specialty demo work.

Kinda surprised they can't tell it; the engine alone must be worth a bit. Unless the military is taking the scrapping thing to mean "we don't want anyone to be able to learn anything from nothing."
 
2012-04-28 10:24:54 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Can't we just give it to Iran or something?


What do you think this is, the 1980s?!
 
2012-04-28 10:27:52 AM  
Except that the ad doesn't say that it has to be scrapped immediately. I read it as, "if it is ever going to be scrapped, it must be done in the US." It doesn't say anything about when you have to scrap it.

I'm going to go with subby's reading comprehension being off. At least in my fantasy with Michelle Yeoh.
 
2012-04-28 10:30:46 AM  
FTA: loaded with the type of stealth technology that made the US Air Force's F-35 Lightning II so famous.

So it's a piece of shiat, too?
 
2012-04-28 10:32:48 AM  
1. Buy ship from Navy for $50,000
2. Sell metal from ship to Navy for $3,000,000
3. Profit
4. ????
 
2012-04-28 10:34:15 AM  

MattyFridays: Trance750:

Ok, but when you take into account the the cost for dis-assembly, will you make enough money once you sell off the scrap?

From the article, there's about 3million in scrap there.


Yes but how much will it cost you to get it to the point where you can sell the scrap? That seems like a very costly and labor-intensive job
 
2012-04-28 10:34:32 AM  
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See the thing is, the market for scrap metal isn't as big as it used to be....And that ship is gonna take up alot of my floor space, plus I have to find a buyer....I'll give ya 200 bucks for it.
 
2012-04-28 10:35:02 AM  
Why don't they sell it for far more than 50g to our allies? Or even give it away as good will?

Our allies in East Asia seem to be on a naval arms buildup race.
 
2012-04-28 10:35:06 AM  

MAYORBOB: Will only buy it if I'm allowed to take it for a test spin. You know, to check the wheels, mount the Zargon death ray and annihilate a town or two.


"no one ever says France"
//Hank Scorpio

CSB - It docked at my office once. VERY cool ship to see relatively up close
 
2012-04-28 10:37:17 AM  

StingerJ: FTA: loaded with the type of stealth technology that made the US Air Force's F-35 Lightning II so famous.

So it's a piece of shiat, too?


That was my take on it also.
 
2012-04-28 10:40:30 AM  
I doubt it will go for just $50k.

That thing never looked seaworthy to me anyway. Did they ever even take it out the the bay?
 
2012-04-28 10:42:19 AM  
We could just sell it to Russia. It'll fall apart on its own in about 5 years.
 
2012-04-28 10:43:41 AM  
The auction also includes the floating dry dock it is housed in and you don't have to scrap that.
 
2012-04-28 10:43:50 AM  

SirEattonHogg: Why don't they sell it for far more than 50g to our allies? Or even give it away as good will?

Our allies in East Asia seem to be on a naval arms buildup race.


I bet the guys in South Korea could find a use for it.
 
2012-04-28 10:45:02 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But it's a *stealth* ship -- so if I buy it, leap aboard and suddenly back away from the dock with the appropriate level of cat stroking and maniacal laughing how will they ever find me until I issue my demands?

On an unrelated note, does anyone know where I can get Henchman Jumpsuits?


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Ask this dude

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2012-04-28 10:48:07 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But it's a *stealth* ship -- so if I buy it, leap aboard and suddenly back away from the dock with the appropriate level of cat stroking and maniacal laughing how will they ever find me until I issue my demands?

On an unrelated note, does anyone know where I can get Henchman Jumpsuits?


I can recommend a consultant who'll set you right up with the whole deal:

fc01.deviantart.net
 
2012-04-28 10:48:22 AM  

Trance750: MattyFridays: Trance750:

Ok, but when you take into account the the cost for dis-assembly, will you make enough money once you sell off the scrap?

From the article, there's about 3million in scrap there.

Yes but how much will it cost you to get it to the point where you can sell the scrap? That seems like a very costly and labor-intensive job


Ship Breaking is, which is why it's usually done in places like Bangladesh where manpower is dirt cheap. Short of hiring a bunch of illegals to do the work at slave-wages, I'm not sure whether you could turn a profit at in here in the States. That's the reason why the DoD is letting it go for only $50K.
 
2012-04-28 10:49:25 AM  

ltdanman44: [img2.timeinc.net image 240x320]


See the thing is, the market for scrap metal isn't as big as it used to be....And that ship is gonna take up alot of my floor space, plus I have to find a buyer....I'll give ya 200 bucks for it.


Clap, Clap .....A+
 
2012-04-28 10:50:20 AM  
One I had bought it and ownership was transferred NO ONE would tell me what to do with MY property! Period.
 
2012-04-28 10:50:28 AM  

Mouser: Trance750: MattyFridays: Trance750:

Ok, but when you take into account the the cost for dis-assembly, will you make enough money once you sell off the scrap?

From the article, there's about 3million in scrap there.

Yes but how much will it cost you to get it to the point where you can sell the scrap? That seems like a very costly and labor-intensive job

Ship Breaking is, which is why it's usually done in places like Bangladesh where manpower is dirt cheap. Short of hiring a bunch of illegals to do the work at slave-wages, I'm not sure whether you could turn a profit at in here in the States. That's the reason why the DoD is letting it go for only $50K.


But didn't TFA state it had to be done on US Soil?
 
2012-04-28 10:50:49 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Can't we just give it to Iran or something?


Better yet, Greenpeace.
 
2012-04-28 10:51:41 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But it's a *stealth* ship -- so if I buy it, leap aboard and suddenly back away from the dock with the appropriate level of cat stroking and maniacal laughing how will they ever find me until I issue my demands?

On an unrelated note, does anyone know where I can get Henchman Jumpsuits?


Menards has henchman jumpsuits. my dad wears them in his woodshop. fyi
 
2012-04-28 10:53:53 AM  

vodka: I doubt it will go for just $50k.


It is now at $100,420. It you want it you better click the 'buy it now' button before it goes too high for you.
Link: http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucitsrh/ then pick Boats and Marine Equipment from the left side menu.

The host barge (the room around the Sea shadow) is a real rust bucket but it looks impressive in an ugly kind of way.
Remember: you get both ships for the same price.
 
2012-04-28 10:55:06 AM  
Internet, you've let me down. How can you not have a clip of the 4 on the Floor sketch in which Blanche buys the USS Iowa and puts it on her Visa?
 
2012-04-28 10:55:23 AM  
It would make a good zombie apocalypse boat.
 
2012-04-28 10:56:18 AM  
Screw Greenpeace - give it to that Whale Wars Wacko. He's needed a new toy since his bat boat got run over.
 
2012-04-28 10:58:39 AM  

perigee: Screw Greenpeace - give it to that Whale Wars Wacko. He's needed a new toy since his bat boat got run over.


They are just going to get in a shiatload of trouble because the terms strictly state that demolition and scrapping must be handled by Americans. The Japanese aren't Americans.
 
2012-04-28 11:03:12 AM  

StingerJ: FTA: loaded with the type of stealth technology that made the US Air Force's F-35 Lightning II so famous.

So it's a piece of shiat, too?


Yah that was my irk with the article as well. The F-35 is neither well known or something to be positively compared against.
 
2012-04-28 11:04:11 AM  
The cost of scrapping within EPA requirements, worker insurance and berthing fees will eat up much of the profit.Not to mention there are few places in the US that will let you do it at all. Speaking of the EPA, who knows what toxins may be in the hull paint.You might have to tent and sandblast it before you can cut an inch.
 
2012-04-28 11:05:47 AM  

JMacPA: Except that the ad doesn't say that it has to be scrapped immediately. I read it as, "if it is ever going to be scrapped, it must be done in the US." It doesn't say anything about when you have to scrap it.

I'm going to go with subby's reading comprehension being off. At least in my fantasy with Michelle Yeoh.


In the documentation attached to the auction, they say you get six months to dismantle it. It doesn't say anything about not taking it for a spin first though.
 
2012-04-28 11:07:04 AM  

WhyteRaven74: That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.


Military logic.

It's also devoid of anything that's of any Intelligence Value whatsoever, has no mounts for any weaponry (those are ITAR and have been removed) and it's quite likely that they destroyed the engines as well.

What you're buying is a shell, probably worth a couple of hundred grand of metal. You're also buying a huge headache because of the various regulations.

They should be paying YOU to scrap it.
 
2012-04-28 11:07:46 AM  

Rincewind53: WhyteRaven74: That makes absolutely no sense whatever, selling the ship to someone under the condition they scrap it.

It makes sense when you consider that the Navy might not have the facilities to scrap it themselves and just want someone to take it off their hands and free up a drydock.

So they're just organizing a scrap auction to get the most they can for it.


The Navy does have their own boneyard. The ships sits for years before either being scrapped or sold to another country. On rare occasions recommissioned. The ship is sitting inside a floating drydock that you get in the auction also. They just don't want the hassle of dealing with it. I do wonder if it is declassified and could be used as a museum piece somewhere in the states or the Navy wants full destruction. Either way they are just wasting money for not trying to get more money by selling it as a working vessel.
 
2012-04-28 11:08:53 AM  
You get the barge, too? Farkers are slipping if you didn't recognize that as the barge from Project Azorian.
 
2012-04-28 11:10:30 AM  
www.nhptv.org

Already got one.
 
2012-04-28 11:14:09 AM  
shiat thats soo big you have to cut it up and use machinery to load it is honestly worth no wheres near its theoretical scrap values. Oxygen and acetelene for tourches and deisel for your cranes ain't cheap, and thats not even considering labor, insurance, or complying with EPA regs, or your ownership and upkeep of a facility large enough to do it.


Even though its theoreticaly worth $15 per hundred as scrap steel its probably worth less than $15 per ton when you consider expenses.
 
2012-04-28 11:15:00 AM  
JMacPA SmartestFunniest 2012-04-28 10:27:52 AM


Except that the ad doesn't say that it has to be scrapped immediately. I read it as, "if it is ever going to be scrapped, it must be done in the US." It doesn't say anything about when you have to scrap it.

I'm going to go with subby's reading comprehension being off. At least in my fantasy with Michelle Yeoh.


You want to scrap Michelle Yeoh on US soil. Kinky. Very kinky.
 
2012-04-28 11:20:16 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

They're even already licensed and routinely contracted by GSA.
 
2012-04-28 11:21:31 AM  

Oldiron_79: shiat thats soo big you have to cut it up and use machinery to load it is honestly worth no wheres near its theoretical scrap values. Oxygen and acetelene for tourches and deisel for your cranes ain't cheap, and thats not even considering labor, insurance, or complying with EPA regs, or your ownership and upkeep of a facility large enough to do it.


Even though its theoreticaly worth $15 per hundred as scrap steel its probably worth less than $15 per ton when you consider expenses.


Where can I get that $15 per hundred? I can only get $240 per ton. Wait you must be talking Detroit prices. Flint doesn't get that much, since the yards up here have to truck the metal south. Nevermind I could never fit that thing in my yard.
 
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