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(Fox News)   You're the founder of the "It Gets Better" campaign and delivering an anti-bullying speech. Do you: C) call the Christian teens in attendance "pansy asses" and mock them for walking out of your tirade?   (radio.foxnews.com) divider line 110
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2012-04-28 02:24:27 AM
10 votes:
i249.photobucket.com
2012-04-27 09:28:07 PM
10 votes:
He's going to end up jacking it in San Diego
2012-04-28 02:24:00 AM
7 votes:
Someone needs to tell those children that It Gets Better, and someday the bullying from Dan Savage will end.
2012-04-28 04:54:55 AM
6 votes:

firefly212: Catch me about being just as wrong when there are gay preachers who succeed in pushing for genocidal laws against Christians. You people say farking nothing while these extremists hijack what you proclaim to be a moderate and good faith and turn it into a venom and bile spewing hatefest, but you're all over it as soon as someone calls you out for it.


Oh please. There is a huge massive anti-Christianity campaign, and has been for years.

Why, just last December someone said "Happy Holidays" to me instead of "Merry Christmas." I am still scarred from the experience.
2012-04-28 12:49:52 AM
5 votes:
Those poor Christians! I hope the bullying doesn't lead them to suicide.
2012-04-28 03:46:29 AM
4 votes:
Oh, and:

montaraventures.com

(Works just as well for "homo" as "atheist")
2012-04-28 08:56:24 PM
3 votes:
THE POOR TRAUMATIZED SNOWFLAKES

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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE SNOWFLAKES
2012-04-28 08:18:49 AM
3 votes:
So what are the odds some of those Christian kids are gonna go slit their wrists over this?
2012-04-28 04:19:33 AM
3 votes:

incrdbil: There are advocates for anti-bullying that do far better than this. They use the bible, they don't attack it. Its far easier to show that those who engage in bullying and hate are doing acts explicity against the bible in far more clear, concise, and unrefutabble terms than any of the passages used to against homosexuals .Its realtively easy to challenge the few clobber verses, but what is better is to focus on the message of the New Testament, of the basics of Christiantiy: love and kindness. If he had focused on the elements of the bible that reinforce the anti-bullying message, he would have been a far better advocate. Maybe he got the self pleasure of venting his own intolerance, but he did no service to his cause.


Because clearly there should be no other arguments other than bible based arguments. Why DO we study anything other than the bible? I just can't understand it.
2012-04-28 02:37:39 AM
3 votes:

foo monkey: Tolerance goes both ways. No, I mean you have to give and receive tolerance. Damnit, can we all just agree buttsex is gross, but it doesn't damn you to Hell?


www.onpdx.com

"If people that are against gay marriage just said, 'I'm against gay marriage because thinking about two men having butt sex or two women having scissor sex kills my boner, dries up my vagina, I can't have sex, it ruins my life. That's why I'm against it,' That would be a valid argument! We'd have to actually debate you on that!"
2012-04-28 02:00:45 AM
3 votes:
i224.photobucket.com
2012-04-27 10:51:19 PM
3 votes:
Can Christian teens NEVER get a BREAK???!!??
2012-04-27 09:04:27 PM
3 votes:
So they can dish it out, but they can't take it? Pansy asses!
2012-04-28 08:58:32 PM
2 votes:
waaaaaaaah, high school students shouldn't have to stay and listen to anyone they disagree with...

good luck in college, kids
2012-04-28 08:19:38 PM
2 votes:
What astonishes me about this thread is that so many folks are willing to admit that they're complete pansy-asses. Because only a pansy-ass would ever call what Savage did "bullying."
2012-04-28 02:51:03 PM
2 votes:

Lusiphur: It's a sign of poisson for your cause


What a sign of poisson may look like:

encrypted-tbn2.google.com
2012-04-28 12:44:31 PM
2 votes:
"ignore the bullshiat in the Bible"

seems like good advice for a kid
2012-04-28 06:02:58 AM
2 votes:
Is this really a surprise? I think everyone knows that anti-bullying groups are just fronts for men who like to have sex with young boys but couldn't pass the psych tests the Catholic church has implemented for new priests.
2012-04-28 05:57:50 AM
2 votes:

Rambino: barefoot in the head: As a well-known Farker has instructed, "Don't be a dick." It's a good rule.

Actually, we need dicks. And Savage is the best kind of dick - the kind that farks assholes.

[images.wikia.com image 350x272]


Because we all need more fissures of men.
2012-04-28 05:43:15 AM
2 votes:

MoeSzyslak: I also find it adorable when people no longer have a legitimate response and have to resort to putting words in other people's mouths


Says the poster who just claimed I said the voting machine owners are going to kill all the gays.
2012-04-28 05:21:30 AM
2 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-04-28 04:47:44 AM
2 votes:
Well, in all fairness to Mr. Savage, Christians are complete dumbasses.
2012-04-28 04:10:47 AM
2 votes:
img820.imageshack.us
2012-04-28 03:48:52 AM
2 votes:

breakfast_in_bedlam: Gay the pray away Dan. Gay it the fark away..

Right in the middle of the article is this glowing review for the author of the article:

"SARAH PALIN LOVES TODD'S NEW BOOK
SO DOES MARK LEVIN AND SEAN HANNITY"

That about does it for his credibility in my eyes. I mean, he actually wants us to believe that Sarah Palin can read? Please...

/Fark those christian bastards.
//I didn't think it was possible for me to like Dan Savage any more without actually becoming gay.


Well, that would be your choice.
2012-04-28 03:43:39 AM
2 votes:

lukehasnoname: Wow, there's a lot of hate. "Christian teenagers are some of the worst creatures". Really? Are you that secluded and delusional?

How about the cracks about being driven to suicide? That gay kid who killed himself troubled, but suicide is one's own fault. That's why it's called suicide.

If you can't take the heat of being gay in 2012, don't be gay. Otherwise, man up (unless you're bottom).

Can't take the heat of being retarded in 2012, don't be born with downes syndrome . Otherwise man up and post on fark.
2012-04-28 03:39:21 AM
2 votes:

firefaery29: Since when is Dan Savage a journalist anyway? That guy is a tool. And the org was stupid for hiring a well-known outspoken sex columnist as a keynote speaker at a retreat for teenagers.


The man defined "Santorum". That, my friend, is a man of national significance.
2012-04-28 03:30:09 AM
2 votes:

Pete_T_Mann: So he called them pansy asses? And he has a "husband"? Doesnt having a penis in your anus on a regular basis make a guy a "pansy ass", or at least a "pansy" who is, by default, in possession of a "pansy ass"?

Anyway, if this pansy ass gets all butthurt over some Christians not liking his message he can listen to his Streisand albums and cry himself to sleep. The only thing worse than hypocritical holier than thou Christians is hypocritical holier than thou liberals. Put em all in the arena with meat cleavers, get some entertainment, and make the world a better place.


I don't know you tell me how you feel?
2012-04-28 03:25:55 AM
2 votes:

Omahawg: all these gay threads the past couple days but no lesbian picture pornucopia yet?

it's shameful and wrong.


i1121.photobucket.com
i1121.photobucket.com
Does that help? Well I still can't get married to my girlfriend in my state.
2012-04-28 03:11:24 AM
2 votes:

Notabunny: nsfw lingo


For those of you decrying Savage's horrifying attack on Christianity .. please watch the video again. You can come back and retract your statement anytime. :)

Trolls: Continue as you are! My ignore list has the hunger.

Schills: Please remember to turn in your post count before the end of the month or the RNC won't be able to send your checks out until the 15th.
2012-04-28 02:39:20 AM
2 votes:

Notabunny: nsfw lingo


so I am somewhere between, MEH, who cares and MEH, he should have parsed his words a tiny bit better.
on the other hand, MEH
who cares

bunch of pansy assed christian students were offended
LOL
who cares

I am pretty CERTAIN that their bible DEMANDS that they turn the other cheek and that they NOT JUDGE OTHERS.
PERIOD.

so, way to go xians for disobeying the bible. have fun burning in hell.

/wait, too far? was that "bullying? LOLOLOLOLOLOOL
2012-04-28 02:29:07 AM
2 votes:

Eclectic: Confabulat: To be fair, Christian teenagers are some of the worst, most pathetic creatures humanity has to offer. Probably shouldn't call them names at the anti-bullying rally though.

I was raised to be a christian teen - dad was a preacher. And the little pricks I was around all the time WERE pathetic. But then I chopped my dick off and became a lesbian, so there is hope for some of these kids.


You sure showed them.
2012-04-28 02:26:43 AM
2 votes:
Tolerance goes both ways. No, I mean you have to give and receive tolerance. Damnit, can we all just agree buttsex is gross, but it doesn't damn you to Hell?
2012-04-28 02:20:53 AM
2 votes:
A link to Fox News? I'm sure the article is fair and balanced.

/DRTFA
2012-04-28 01:36:46 AM
2 votes:
Story made me think of this Onion article, although I'm not entirely sure why. No, it's not the oblig one...
2012-04-28 12:51:12 AM
2 votes:

Confabulat: To be fair, Christian teenagers are some of the worst, most pathetic creatures humanity has to offer. Probably shouldn't call them names at the anti-bullying rally though.


I was raised to be a christian teen - dad was a preacher. And the little pricks I was around all the time WERE pathetic. But then I chopped my dick off and became a lesbian, so there is hope for some of these kids.
2012-04-28 12:27:46 AM
2 votes:
South Park did it.
2012-04-27 10:18:15 PM
2 votes:
If Dan Savage said it then it's okay by me. He's well past needing to provide cred.
2012-04-29 10:54:42 PM
1 votes:
Funny, you'd think Christians would be game for a little persecution. Gets 'em to heaven faster where they can reunite with their foreskins and 36 Wu-Tang virgins, or something.
2012-04-29 05:58:52 PM
1 votes:
img190.imageshack.us

LET'S MAKE POUTY FACES !
2012-04-29 05:33:44 PM
1 votes:

PsiChick: Quite frankly, the video is completely irrelevant


"Quite frankly, what actually happened is irrelevant. All that matters is what people claim happened.".

THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ACTUALLY WROTE DOWN.
2012-04-29 11:51:24 AM
1 votes:

spmkk: truthseeker2083: "I woild like to see another source, as a 'culture wars' 'reporter' from fox news smacks of bias, but..."

loveblondieo: "I would like to see this story come from some other source than Fox."

illusionofjoy: "A link to Fox News? I'm sure the article is fair and balanced."

Giant Clown Shoe: "transcript or video required for opinion formation.

/fox news editorial isn't credible evidence imo"

usernameguy: "Fox News."

Mrtraveler01: "Seriously though, Fox News subby? Wake me up when you have a non-biased source for this story."


I know it's been posted a few times, but here y'all go - from the Huffington Post, no less. With full video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/28/dan-savage-speech-controver sy _n_1461863.html

Here's a parallel:
An ostensibly pro-rights speaker gets up in front of a group of Americans and says, "We can learn to ignore the bullshiat in the Constitution about gun ownership rights, the same way we have learned to ignore the bullshiat in the Constitution about only counting three-fifths of a vote from slaves versus free men....we ignore bullshiat in the Constitution about all sorts of things....If the Constitution got the easiest democratic question that America has ever faced wrong -- voting equality -- what are the odds that the Constitution got something as complicated as the right to bear arms wrong? 100%"

...and then riles everyone up to laugh at the "Constitution guys down the hall" and calls them pansy-ass for walking out of your talk. Would a reporter be wrong for referring to the presentation an "anti-democracy tirade" and calling it out as a "Constitution-bashing, profanity-laced speech"? No - he would pretty much be spot on.

/not Christian
//anti bullying
///pro gay rights
////anti hypocrisy
//pro respect


Pointing out the objective truth that the Constitution hasn't always been right is in no way "anti-democracy". And the same thing goes for the bible. Your post proves the opposite of what you intended. Like rain on your wedding day, that.
2012-04-29 05:56:03 AM
1 votes:

sweatybronson: Keizer_Ghidorah: High-schoolers aren't children

Ha ha. Really? You must not know many highschoolers - or must not know / understand them very well...

Males don't become grown-ups until their 25 (mentally, that is... the ability to reason and make decisions, yada yada). For women, it's 22.5.


On overall average, yeah, though with individual variation of course. The development of the frontal lobe is not complete until some time in the twenties. Up until that time, decisions are made with the primary input being from the limbic system, and emotionally based decisions are generally pretty dumb and childish...
2012-04-29 03:09:52 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: Max Awesome: This thread needs more Barbra Bush and hot guys in speedos:

[i42.photobucket.com image 373x550]

What's the story behind that pic?


Babs was just about to show him a trick with her pearl necklace that drove George Sr. wild...
2012-04-29 02:43:45 AM
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Making a distinction between a person and an act is simply that. A different set of circumstances doesn't absolve one and indict the other. Dan wasn't being a dick, neither was I. We both said it is a pansy assed move to remove yourself from a situation you could handle, but don't because you think you can't. It gets better, right? Are you suggesting it doesn't?


And you're making a comparison between 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT situations. Bullied teens can't get away from getting picked on at school or hateful parents at home. The "persecuted" Christians weren't forced to attend or stay. They came in fully aware of Dan Savage and his distain for hypocrisy and bigotry.

: Well, it has been fun getting people that have defended Dan by saying he wasn't calling those kids pansies, get mad at me for not calling people that kill themselves pansies.

And you've spent all your time defending bigots. *clap*
2012-04-29 01:04:55 AM
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Keizer_Ghidorah: s2s2s2: Nothing more pansy ass than offing yourself because some stupid people were mean to you.

We don't really care about your ITG status. Maybe if you had experienced daily torment during your childhood, teen years, and young adulthood for the crime of being slightly different you'd understand why some people chose death to end the suffering. Especially when your difference was actively encouraged to be tormented by parents, teachers, people in authority, etc.

Funny you should mention that. I was bullied for being gay!


So instead of killing yourself, you became a rotten, bitter person. Kudos!
2012-04-28 11:46:42 PM
1 votes:
Nothing more pansy ass than offing yourself because some stupid people were mean to you.
2012-04-28 11:45:59 PM
1 votes:

Inhalien: Wow, pretty sad to see all the Christian bashing from the Sodomites. Oh well, I'm sure once they're done bashing everyone they have a definitive plan on how they're going to save the world.


Wow, pretty sad to see the pathetic trolling from the Fark troll brigade. Oh well, I'm sure once you're done lulzing it up you have a plan on being a normal person and not a internet jerkoff.
2012-04-28 11:37:17 PM
1 votes:

vrax: I'm sure it's already been said, but these kids have no business getting into journalism with their fragile little minds. If you can't sit through a presentation that challenges your personal beliefs, you are screwed. If they are lucky, maybe they'll have a future as editorial writers who can opine about things which make them feel warm and fuzzy. At least they can always blog.


SImply put, there is not enough money at Fox News to hire them all. Time for some retard die off.
2012-04-28 09:38:20 PM
1 votes:

frymeupasteak: i can always count on farkers to defend the indefensible.

/saw the video
//dude needs an asskicking


You seem reasonable.
2012-04-28 06:06:23 PM
1 votes:

Callous: Keep having conversations with them. Let them walk away with a good experience to remember. It will make them think, perhaps shatter a stereotype. Try and develop friendships with them. Creating divisions never helps. Let the nut jobs be nut jobs. But don't let them bait you into looking like a nut job.


Oh yeah, that'll change the mind of all those homophobic state legislatures, congressmen, senators and governors! Why didn't we think of just letting them walk all over us before?
2012-04-28 05:35:49 PM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: eddiesocket: s2s2s2: Biological Ali: Careful - you're veering close to "concern troll" territory here.

Don't care. The guy was being an ass. The kids were within their rights to walk out, but they were being asses in the process. But it is not wrong to think that being the change you want means not being what you want changed.

But you're just plain objectively wrong. All Civil Rights movements must start with a bit of Malcolm, before ending with a bit of MLK. people will never take you seriously if you ask pretty please.

Not to mention that people forget that MLK had critics who thought that non-violent direct action was too confrontational. It's not like MLK just sat there and asked pretty please, he took to the streets and forced the issue into public consciousness.


I have a dream that some day, those pansy asses will no longer judge us by the pansiness of our asses, but by the right of our asses to be pansies!
2012-04-28 05:28:33 PM
1 votes:
www.trippedmedia.com
2012-04-28 01:51:39 PM
1 votes:
Using an anti-bullying speech as a platform for bullying?

farm3.staticflickr.com
2012-04-28 01:29:00 PM
1 votes:

alowishus: Daraymann: So attacking high school children based on their religion is acceptable to liberals now?

/Is there anything you farkers can't justify?

I don't think there is any justification for such a weak troll.


Yet you have nothing to say about someone verbally abusing and harassing children based on their religion. Typical.
2012-04-28 01:26:34 PM
1 votes:

RexTalionis: As far as I've read, Jesus said to bully nobody.


What Bible are you reading? That mamby-pamby one? Bet it allows having sex with a box turtle in there too, huh f*g? Glen beck warned me about people like you.

Bet you're are a f*g. Or f*g enabler at least! Jesus is gonna smite you by empowering me to do the smiting for Him. PRAISE JEEBUS!!
2012-04-28 01:16:23 PM
1 votes:

Daraymann: So attacking high school children based on their religion is acceptable to liberals now?

/Is there anything you farkers can't justify?


Ignorance.
2012-04-28 11:12:21 AM
1 votes:

peterquince: anarchy_x: Sounds like someone should have read his own message. After all aren't verbal harassment and attack part of bullying? Or is it ok because he's gay?

Watch the video. The article is lying about the situation.


Fox News was lying?

Why that never happens!
2012-04-28 10:13:58 AM
1 votes:
Audience gets offended at anti-religion message. Speaker gets offended that they walk out. Fox news gets offended that he called them candyasses. Libs gets offended that Fox news is offended.

The day that you are not offended by something other people think is the day that America is dead.
2012-04-28 09:09:24 AM
1 votes:
They were being directly ridiculed and mocked for their belief. They stood up and quietly tried to leave, without rancor and arguement, to receive more verbal abuse.

Its verbal abuse and emotional abuse.

He called them pansy asses for acting more maturely than he was, by a LONG SHOT, way to set the example, he's a pathetic asshat.

They shoulda teamed up and tore him apart, and spelled pansy ass with his body parts,
But christians have that whole
/turn the other cheek
thing going on.
AT LEAST they live how they believe. Unlike this dumbass, bullying kids who havent done any thing.
2012-04-28 09:03:56 AM
1 votes:

barefoot in the head: Because there is also wisdom there. Any thoughtful person knows there is no danger in a few bad ideas, if the real harvest is a lot of good ones. The people who miss the wisdom and fixate on the rules, metaphors, anthropomorphism and dates have missed an opportunity to see.


i'm really enjoying the "wise troll" act you're putting on. quite enjoyable. I hope to see more trolls of this type. Definitely more entertaining than the usual hatred and vile invective.
2012-04-28 08:49:55 AM
1 votes:

PonceAlyosha: fireclown: Dan savage IS an obnoxious jerk.

He's also entirely correct.

barefoot in the head: He would have done them a greater service by reading them the Sermon on the Mount. Instead he was the North Wind and made them pull their coats tighter. His outrage missed an opportunity. If he had been more like Jesus in that moment, he might have captured some hearts - hearts he probably had in the first place, but has now lost. This is not wisdom.

Guess what? Not everything is about your precious farking wisdom. Kids need to know when they're buying into marketing bullshiat. If you have a problem with what he said, why don't you go preach tolerance to teens in your own fashion? You seem to have a lot of ideas on the subject.


The notion that one must kiss some ass in order to eventually suck some dick does seem counterintuitive.


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2012-04-28 08:16:05 AM
1 votes:

doglover: What? You mean when roles are reversed the bullied become bullies themselves? Color me shocked.


Be more petty and disingenuous.
2012-04-28 08:12:25 AM
1 votes:

barefoot in the head: alowishus, Mrtraveler01, those are not valid arguments.


Do you really not understand why Savage brought up the Old Testament stuff? Really?

mcla.laxallstars.com
2012-04-28 08:11:16 AM
1 votes:
s4.guyism.com
2012-04-28 07:59:01 AM
1 votes:

barefoot in the head: The Old Testament has nothing to do with Christianity.


i224.photobucket.com
2012-04-28 07:55:00 AM
1 votes:

barefoot in the head: The Old Testament has nothing to do with Christianity. No Christian keeps slaves. He was spouting a lot of irrelevant crap. And I state that for the fundy crowd as much as the blind analyticals who label anything intuitive as "fairy-tale".


images.t-nation.com
2012-04-28 07:40:24 AM
1 votes:
A person, especially children, being bullied? Thats terrible, needs to stop! Wait...they believe in Jesus? That automatically makes them evil, anti-gay, anti-woman, GOP, intolerant bastards!
And the way they handled it? Walking out calmly, while he continued to yell and make a fool of himself? Monsters.
2012-04-28 07:21:38 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: A whole lot of stone-age neanderthal derps posting above. Where do you people come from?


Stop bullying anti-gay Christians!

Telling bigoted Christians that they need to get with the times is just as bad as telling a depressed gay teenager that they are evil and deserve to be tortured for all eternity.
2012-04-28 06:54:32 AM
1 votes:
It's always c)

Pansie-ass pseudo-Christians
2012-04-28 05:51:45 AM
1 votes:
I wonder if any of the kids in the audience saw the fundies get up and go and decided to join them so they could go drink some whiskey or a bj or something.
2012-04-28 05:42:17 AM
1 votes:

Rambino: barefoot in the head: As a well-known Farker has instructed, "Don't be a dick." It's a good rule.

Actually, we need dicks. And Savage is the best kind of dick - the kind that farks assholes.


You had me at dicks fark assholes.
2012-04-28 05:40:39 AM
1 votes:

barefoot in the head: As a well-known Farker has instructed, "Don't be a dick." It's a good rule.


Actually, we need dicks. And Savage is the best kind of dick - the kind that farks assholes.

images.wikia.com
2012-04-28 05:40:23 AM
1 votes:

Gone In 26 Minutes: This thread sucks without Ghastly=(


Would be exponentially more entertaining, but there's been plenty of butthurt already.
2012-04-28 05:37:18 AM
1 votes:

Rambino: rynthetyn: I've spent way too much time being told I'm abomination

Baby, you make "abomination" sexy.


I am pathetically saddened by the fact that my lame attempt at midnight flirtation with the lesbian was ignored.

*sigh*

/guess I'll just jack it in San Diego
//works out well, since that's where I live
2012-04-28 05:35:43 AM
1 votes:

Rambino: TheXerox: The point of my post was that Savage isn't likely to get people to go "Gosh, I've been wrong about this subject, perhaps I should rethink my views..." by getting mouthy and insulting as he seems to have been.

Link.to.video.has.been.posted.repeatedly. No need to go with "seems to have been" when you can see for yourself that he did no such thing.


Librul. There you go with your fancy "facts" again. You know, you can use facts to prove PRACTICALLY ANYTHING!!
Why do you hate our narrative? It's so pretty, and makes so much sense to us!
Quit bothering us with these petty "facts" of yours!
2012-04-28 05:35:40 AM
1 votes:
Sorry Christians... you used up my pity for you and your flock a long time ago.
2012-04-28 05:17:06 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: sweatybronson:
And what 'genocidal laws' do you speak of? Not letting homosexuals get legally married doesnotequal genocide.
.

You know that whole kill the gays bill in Uganda? You know that was pushed by American evangelicals, right? And that Uganda is being used as the testing ground by those same American evangelical groups whose express goal is to implement Old Testament Civil Law in America?

Read up on the Christian Reconstructionist group the Chalcedon Foundation and all of the ties they have to Republican politicians across the country. The Chalcedon Foundation, which happens to count as one of their major donors the owners of both of the main electronic voting systems used in the US, and which has as their stated goal implementing Old Testament Law through democratic means. And by Old Testament Law, they mean stoning gay people, stoning disobedient children, stoning people who commit adultery, and stoning women who aren't virgins on their wedding night. But especially stoning gay people. Because we're an abomination that cannot be allowed to exist or God will bring judgment on the land.

So yes, the end goal is genocide. Uganda is the test case and is providing the blueprint for how they'll try to implement it in America if they get control of all the branches of government.


Get a grip. You're flying off the rails.

meiobit.com
2012-04-28 05:14:17 AM
1 votes:

MoeSzyslak: Rambino: MoeSzyslak: What if the pastor at the local church is a gay? Certain denominations have them you know? But don't let that get in the way of your bigoted opinion that all church services are nothing more than hour long gay hate festivals.

I am quite confident that she said nothing of the kind.

But don't let that get in the way of your trolling.

She said "When your pastor says anti-gay rhetoric, do you call him on it? ". I wasn't aware she knew Aigoo's pastor and what he says. That's right she doesn't. She just assumes the pastor says anti-gay rhetoric because in her warped reality all pastors preach anti-gay rhetoric. So yes that's exactly what she said.

This thread is a trip. Christians are anti-gay bigoted fairy tale believing assholes and conservatives are mouth breathing retards but don't you dare say anything mean about a gay person because they might go all drama queen and kill themselves!! Way to set an example.


Cute. You completely ignore the posts where I've made it quite clear that I'm a Christian who is involved in a local church in my community because that doesn't fit into your preconceived notion that we're all Christian-hating atheists.

Does it turn you on to feel all persecuted like this?
2012-04-28 05:08:50 AM
1 votes:

Rambino: MoeSzyslak: What if the pastor at the local church is a gay? Certain denominations have them you know? But don't let that get in the way of your bigoted opinion that all church services are nothing more than hour long gay hate festivals.

I am quite confident that she said nothing of the kind.

But don't let that get in the way of your trolling.


She said "When your pastor says anti-gay rhetoric, do you call him on it? ". I wasn't aware she knew Aigoo's pastor and what he says. That's right she doesn't. She just assumes the pastor says anti-gay rhetoric because in her warped reality all pastors preach anti-gay rhetoric. So yes that's exactly what she said.

This thread is a trip. Christians are anti-gay bigoted fairy tale believing assholes and conservatives are mouth breathing retards but don't you dare say anything mean about a gay person because they might go all drama queen and kill themselves!! Way to set an example.
2012-04-28 04:59:19 AM
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the_chief: Well, in all fairness to Mr. Savage, Christians are complete dumbasses pansy-asses.


FTFY
2012-04-28 04:57:06 AM
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Rambino: firefly212: Catch me about being just as wrong when there are gay preachers who succeed in pushing for genocidal laws against Christians. You people say farking nothing while these extremists hijack what you proclaim to be a moderate and good faith and turn it into a venom and bile spewing hatefest, but you're all over it as soon as someone calls you out for it.


Oh please. There is a huge massive anti-Christianity campaign, and has been for years.

Why, just last December someone said "Happy Holidays" to me instead of "Merry Christmas." I am still scarred from the experience.


okay, now you're just being silly... I thought everyone said happy chanurammakwanzmas these days.
2012-04-28 04:43:51 AM
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As a side note, anyone who considers saying "pansy-asses" to be "cursing out" is a farking pansy-ass.
2012-04-28 04:15:58 AM
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Aigoo: if the article is factual


No need to wonder. Link to video has been posted.

In this case, you can supplement faith with facts.
2012-04-28 04:12:18 AM
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truthseeker2083: So they can dish it out, but they can't take it? Pansy asses!


You see, this is interesting. Because never in my life have I ever directed a bullying comment at a gay man or woman. One of my roommates is a lesbian, she and her girlfriend are perfectly happy and her girlfriend is one of the nicest people it's ever been my pleasure to know in life, one of my mother's closest friends is a gay man, and a couple of my dearest friends in life are gay men - one of whom I have known and been friends with for close to 20 years.

I also happen to be devoutly Christian. I believe in God, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, and yet, I do not recall reading anywhere in the Bible that Savage says I can ignore where Jesus tells me it's okay to hate anyone, regardless of who they sleep with. I do recall reading several times that God (or rather, Christ) is the only one qualified to judge and so I leave that task to God and simply try to love people as they are.

For the record, I am neither conservative (Republican) or liberal (Democrat). In point of fact, I strongly believe both parties are equally corrupt and self-serving and that neither party has the nation's best interest in mind, nor have they in my lifetime.

And for the record, if the article is factual and Savage did, in fact, turn an anti-bullying speech into an attack on my personal faith, I would have quietly gotten up and walked out of Savage's blatantly attacking, mocking, offensive speech as well. One of the very great freedoms we possess in this country is the freedom not to listen to or look at that which offends us. While I support Savage's efforts in the "It Gets Better" campaign wholeheartedly, I never support or defend anyone becoming what they proclaim to fight against or despise. Kind of defeats the purpose of everything he's accomplished, in my opinion.

I do not insult gays, Muslims, atheists, people whose god is a doorknob (nor do I tolerate others tossing such insults in my presence)... but I should not be expected to tolerate being insulted under the guise of "this guy is madder than hell and shouldn't have to take it anymore" either. The fact that I am Christian and actively distance myself from those who proclaim Christianity but do not live it does not make me a pile of shiat while Dan Savage is being an asshole.
2012-04-28 04:11:50 AM
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firefly212: incrdbil: SilentStrider: They deserve to be mocked.

Ah, nice to join the in crowd in approved prejudice isn't it?

He enaged in the behavior he condemns. If he wants to deliver an anti-bullying message, then don't engage in abusive bullying behavior. Even if he hates Christians with a passion, if he wants to fight bullying behavior, he should try not to hand his opponents an easy to use sound bite to use against him. There's also the merit of avoiding being a hypocrite by taking the high road.

Ya, because it's bullying to call out bullies for bullying.


So, those who peaceably left a meeting as he insulted and attacked their religion are bullies? He know they each and everyone had personally bullied someone? I'm amazed at his audience pre-screening process.
2012-04-28 04:07:05 AM
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If a single insult rises to the level of bullying for you, then you are Pansy asses.
2012-04-28 04:06:31 AM
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hbk72777: I'm an atheist, can't stand passing a church on the weekend with the hypocrites blocking traffic, can't stand the God Bless B.S., etc, but some of you are just plain farked in the head. Now we're going to do the old good for the goose bullshiat? Liberals are the first one protesting anything they don't want to hear, anything that offends them in the slightest. The mocking of Tebow, while I can't stand listening to people throw out gods name every other sentence, is ridiculous. You've got farking 10 NFL players a week in the news slapping a biatch, assaulting, raping, etc, and yet you pick on a white boy who believes a fairytale? Now you applaud someone for berating people with different beliefs? How is this guy and all of you who support this action any different from hate mongers like Rush and O'Reilly?

You aren't


so vote republican?
2012-04-28 04:03:50 AM
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I_Hate_Iowa: Notabunny: nsfw lingo

This is a link to the video of the event, in case anyone missed it. If you watch it you'll see people start walking out at soon as he starts mentioning the bible, without even hearing what he has to say about it. His message is "We can ignore the parts of the bible about being gay just like we've learned to ignore all the other bullshiat the bible got wrong, like shellfish, slavery, and virginity." At no point does he attack anyone who holds those beliefs; he only says we can and should learn to ignore those teachings. He does call the people who walk out "pansy asses" because they decided to leave as soon as someone started challenging their beliefs, but at no point was it a Christian-bashing event.


I love the self-satisfied look on some of those kids' faces as they're walking out. But I can almost guarantee you that at least one of those kids is going to go off to college, realize the bullshiat they've been indoctrinated with and end up coming out.
2012-04-28 03:59:39 AM
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incrdbil: SilentStrider: They deserve to be mocked.

Ah, nice to join the in crowd in approved prejudice isn't it?

He enaged in the behavior he condemns. If he wants to deliver an anti-bullying message, then don't engage in abusive bullying behavior. Even if he hates Christians with a passion, if he wants to fight bullying behavior, he should try not to hand his opponents an easy to use sound bite to use against him. There's also the merit of avoiding being a hypocrite by taking the high road.


Ya, because it's bullying to call out bullies for bullying.
2012-04-28 03:56:50 AM
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One doesn't have to take the highest road... Just one more elevated than your opposition. Given what the "right" has become... That doesn't take much .
2012-04-28 03:43:34 AM
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foo monkey: Tolerance goes both ways. No, I mean you have to give and receive tolerance. Damnit, can we all just agree buttsex is gross, but it doesn't damn you to Hell?


Can we all agree that christianity is absurd, but doesn't lead to morality?

I'm tired of being told how I'm to tolerate those farkers. Those bigoted farkwads use the government as the last bastion of discrimination now that gays can get married in a plethora of different churches. They legislate about how I need to pay higher taxes, about how I'm not a suitable parent, and there are still tons of GOP platforms talking about how I shouldn't be allowed to have sex with the person of my choice, they are deeply troubled by the fact that gays can now participate in a meaningful armed defense of their nation and constitution. I'm tired of tolerating these jagoffs beating me about the head with the bible and trying to pervert the government into a farked up theocracy that the bible very explicitly says not to farking do.
2012-04-28 03:29:43 AM
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"It became hostile," he said. "It felt hostile as we were sitting in the audience - especially towards Christians who espouse beliefs that he was literally taking on."

As opposed to figuratively taking them on?
2012-04-28 03:28:40 AM
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cretinbob: He's going to end up jacking it in San Diego


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand done in two
2012-04-28 03:27:24 AM
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truthseeker2083: cman: No offense, but you may just be taken a bit more seriously if you were to act professional in an environment such as that. You are supposed to point out the flaws in the other group, not give them fodder to fight against you.

No offense, but the gay community has taken about as much as they can, and having tried civil tones before, some people just snap at the stupid. That's what happened according to this article (I woild like to see another source, as a 'culture wars' 'reporter' from fox news smacks of bias, but...). Sometimes, even the most professional of people can have enough of it, and say 'fark it, enough is enough'. When he's pointed out their mistakes thousands of times, I don't care if he did snap, he's handled the right-wing fundie's crap better than most people would.


If you sink to someone else's level, no matter how understanding it might be to do so, you really can't maintain the moral high ground (which is what they are aiming for.)

It sucks, but it's true.

Admit you made a mistake and move on.

/if it's not a mistake/wrong when you do it, it isn't when the other side does it either.
2012-04-28 03:26:29 AM
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Wow, there's a lot of hate. "Christian teenagers are some of the worst creatures". Really? Are you that secluded and delusional?

How about the cracks about being driven to suicide? That gay kid who killed himself troubled, but suicide is one's own fault. That's why it's called suicide.

If you can't take the heat of being gay in 2012, don't be gay. Otherwise, man up (unless you're bottom).
2012-04-28 03:21:48 AM
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The first thing he told the audience was, 'I hope you're all using birth control,'" she told CitizenLink. "he said there are people using the Bible as an excuse for gay bullying, because it says in Leviticus and Romans that being gay is wrong. Right after that, he said we can ignore all the (expletive deleted) in the Bible."

Yes, some of the christers are indeed using the bible for their bullying. So, the christers get easily offended when someone points out their hypocrisy. christers please!
2012-04-28 03:16:56 AM
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Pete_T_Mann: So he called them pansy asses? And he has a "husband"? Doesnt having a penis in your anus on a regular basis make a guy a "pansy ass", or at least a "pansy" who is, by default, in possession of a "pansy ass"?

Anyway, if this pansy ass gets all butthurt over some Christians not liking his message he can listen to his Streisand albums and cry himself to sleep. The only thing worse than hypocritical holier than thou Christians is hypocritical holier than thou liberals. Put em all in the arena with meat cleavers, get some entertainment, and make the world a better place.


We tried, crybaby christians walked out.

Pay attention.
2012-04-28 02:58:19 AM
1 votes:
big deal. I've been calling muslims pansies for years
2012-04-28 02:55:37 AM
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So he called them pansy asses? And he has a "husband"? Doesnt having a penis in your anus on a regular basis make a guy a "pansy ass", or at least a "pansy" who is, by default, in possession of a "pansy ass"?

Anyway, if this pansy ass gets all butthurt over some Christians not liking his message he can listen to his Streisand albums and cry himself to sleep. The only thing worse than hypocritical holier than thou Christians is hypocritical holier than thou liberals. Put em all in the arena with meat cleavers, get some entertainment, and make the world a better place.
2012-04-28 02:46:36 AM
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firefaery29: Since when is Dan Savage a journalist anyway? That guy is a tool. And the org was stupid for hiring a well-known outspoken sex columnist as a keynote speaker at a retreat for teenagers.


that's true
the LAST thing that you ever want to happen is to ever have anyone talk to children about sex. fsm forbid that the snowflakes hear the word HOMO, cause that will give them the gays and possibly the aids.

/I was talking to god yesterday and he told me to kill everyone who questioned the fact that I was talking to god yesterday.
/no really, I am the final profit. LOL
/no wait, prophet ... profit ... same thing, isnt it??
2012-04-28 02:40:24 AM
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starsrift: csizzo: Assuming all christians are gay-hating bigots is the intellectual equivalent of assuming all gays are AIDS ridden republican congressmen who tap shoes in airport bathrooms.

Was that the content of his speech? Since you have access to it, could you show it to the rest of us?


I was referring to the content of this thread, actually.

/not even christian
//it's ok to be gay
2012-04-28 02:40:21 AM
1 votes:
Savage is a farking asshole. (Not intended.)

The douchebag goes under a pretense of speaking out against bullying and uses it to launch a political tirade against something only tangentially related to bullying (he could have decried the use of the Bible to justify bullying without going into a anti-Christian tirade), and then does what he ostensibly came to preach against when people take offense.

He's just another holier-than-thou "do as I say not as I do" hypocrite, no different than the people he attacks, just on the other side. And you people defend this jackass.

Presumably some of the Christians in the audience knew who he was, and came anyway to support the message he was supposed to have shared. [sarcasm]I guess now they know better than to trust gays.[/sarcasm]
2012-04-28 02:30:48 AM
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Assuming all christians are gay-hating bigots is the intellectual equivalent of assuming all gays are AIDS ridden republican congressmen who tap shoes in airport bathrooms.
2012-04-28 02:27:16 AM
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With all the "GOP mouth breathers" stuff I am seeing here, I always find it disconcerting how much the hard, enlightened left is willing to dehumanize other people.

Adults shouldn't be bullying kids, period. Shame on him, and a lot of you.
2012-04-28 02:24:58 AM
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all these gay threads the past couple days but no lesbian picture pornucopia yet?

it's shameful and wrong.
2012-04-28 01:06:34 AM
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FirstNationalBastard: Yes, Subby, the Christian Teens did fail.

But, hopefully, they'll hit college, forget their brainwashing and their cult, and become fine, upstanding citizens who care more about a person's character than who they fark and what a book of fairy tales tells them they should think about that.


Indeed.
2012-04-28 12:48:47 AM
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To be fair, Christian teenagers are some of the worst, most pathetic creatures humanity has to offer. Probably shouldn't call them names at the anti-bullying rally though.
2012-04-28 12:41:30 AM
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cman: No offense, but you may just be taken a bit more seriously if you were to act professional in an environment such as that. You are supposed to point out the flaws in the other group, not give them fodder to fight against you.


No offense, but the gay community has taken about as much as they can, and having tried civil tones before, some people just snap at the stupid. That's what happened according to this article (I woild like to see another source, as a 'culture wars' 'reporter' from fox news smacks of bias, but...). Sometimes, even the most professional of people can have enough of it, and say 'fark it, enough is enough'. When he's pointed out their mistakes thousands of times, I don't care if he did snap, he's handled the right-wing fundie's crap better than most people would.
2012-04-27 11:06:25 PM
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What? You mean when roles are reversed the bullied become bullies themselves? Color me shocked.
2012-04-27 10:25:09 PM
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They deserve to be mocked.
 
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