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(Fox News)   You're the founder of the "It Gets Better" campaign and delivering an anti-bullying speech. Do you: C) call the Christian teens in attendance "pansy asses" and mock them for walking out of your tirade?   (radio.foxnews.com) divider line 894
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2012-04-28 08:51:29 AM  

wellreadneck: How about the speaker's reference to the teachings of Paul?


They are not the teachings of Jesus.
 
2012-04-28 08:52:15 AM  

Notabunny: nsfw lingo


After watching that I have to say that it was honest, clear, and only offensive to someone who is unable to hear their ideology challenged. People started walking out almost at the moment that he began to criticize the Bible.

Nor did he call people pansy-*sses, he referred to their behavior.

I guess overall I would describe his words as chiding, or gently mocking. He certainly wasn't bullying.
 
2012-04-28 08:53:09 AM  

barefoot in the head: wellreadneck: How about the speaker's reference to the teachings of Paul?

They are not the teachings of Jesus.


Neither are the teachings of Jesus. There are no primary sources from the man, so you're essentially just using Jesus as a brand as much as people who follow teachings that aren't the Bible's "direct" quotations from Jesus.
 
2012-04-28 08:53:40 AM  

PonceAlyosha: fireclown: Dan savage IS an obnoxious jerk.

He's also entirely correct.

barefoot in the head: He would have done them a greater service by reading them the Sermon on the Mount. Instead he was the North Wind and made them pull their coats tighter. His outrage missed an opportunity. If he had been more like Jesus in that moment, he might have captured some hearts - hearts he probably had in the first place, but has now lost. This is not wisdom.

Guess what? Not everything is about your precious farking wisdom. Kids need to know when they're buying into marketing bullshiat. If you have a problem with what he said, why don't you go preach tolerance to teens in your own fashion? You seem to have a lot of ideas on the subject.


Sure. It's what we are all supposed to do. Set examples. And you are right - wisdom is precious.
 
2012-04-28 08:55:28 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Neither are the teachings of Jesus. There are no primary sources from the man, so you're essentially just using Jesus as a brand as much as people who follow teachings that aren't the Bible's "direct" quotations from Jesus.


Apparently he has Jesus' e-mail or something and gets memos the rest of the world doesn't.

:D
 
2012-04-28 08:57:36 AM  

Mrtraveler01: relcec: Not even slightly.
And I went to catholic highschool and the majority of the religous kids I knew didn't give a shiat about homosexuality. You wouldn't savage get away with painting the entire universe of muslims as bigotted killers of homosexuals, or all blacks as evil homophobes because many of them are extremely homophobic, but you people cheer on as a douchebag attacks an entire religion and a group off kids at an antibullying seminar of all places. And you are the people that are always proclaiming that the only legitimate outlook is one that embraces multiculturism, toleration of our differnces, and judging people as individuals instead of condeming entire groups. It seems fairly evident that the vast majority of you all view these societal perscriptions that you champion as only imposing responsibilties on those that have beliefs you disagree with but not yourselves.

I see subby/Fox News hooked another one...


he wasn't giving kids shiat about their religion at an antibullying seminar?


it is absolutely a repudiation of everything you claim to believe as a progressive .
toleration, multiculturalism, treating people equally, judging people as individuals and not by what people with similar cultural characteristics have done in the past. it is not even slightly kosher to go yell at a bunch of highschool kids through a PA System at a f*cking antibullying seminar of all places that their religion is "bullshiat" a dozen times. this isn't even debatable.
you would not tolerate this even slightly if he was telling a group of muslim kids that the koran was bullshiat a few dozen times at any kind of f*cking sschool seminar. if a conservative had actually done this to a group of muslims you would say he got what he deserved when he got death threats.

now I'd admit many conservatives would be cheering him on in that case and that would mean many of them are hypocrites, but you wouldn't, you'd be calling for him to apologize and that makes you a hypocrite too.
 
2012-04-28 09:02:25 AM  
I believe anti-gay beliefs stem less from the fact that it's gay people, than simply a response to a threat to traditional gender roles.
Lesbians? Who do they yell at to make a sandwich?
Gay men? Which one of those nancies takes out the trash?

Aversion to gay sex is just an easier excuse to be anti-gay.
 
2012-04-28 09:02:27 AM  

PonceAlyosha: barefoot in the head: wellreadneck: How about the speaker's reference to the teachings of Paul?

They are not the teachings of Jesus.

Neither are the teachings of Jesus. There are no primary sources from the man, so you're essentially just using Jesus as a brand as much as people who follow teachings that aren't the Bible's "direct" quotations from Jesus.


I am very practical, much more like the Zen mind than the mystical one. I see what works in the world, what brings good things to people's minds, opens hearts, promotes community. That is not a brand, it is a way. Teachings along these lines are attributed to Jesus, and even if he never existed, the way still does.
 
2012-04-28 09:02:29 AM  

relcec: he wasn't giving kids shiat about their religion at an antibullying seminar?


No, the non-biased articles basically show him telling the kids that unless you don't eat shellfish, wear non-cotton clothes, etc, then you can't use Leviticus as an excuse to be bigoted towards gays. Essentially, he was calling them out on their hypocrisy, the self-rightous Christian that left the room cried that he was being mean to them instead of recognizing that he was telling them the truth.

There is absolutely no citation of anything else that article claimed he said outside of a bunch of hearsay from someone on a blog.
 
2012-04-28 09:02:41 AM  

TheXerox: In the times I have seen, heard, or read his material, Dan Savage has almost always skewed things into a "you're either with me or against me" thing and this seems to be no exception. Turning an anti-bully speech into a platform for bullying a belief which is different from your own is hypocritical and dishonest. If this was as bad as reported then there will likely be clips of this floating around on youtube within the next few days if there aren't some already.

/Christian
//no problem with gay people
///has a problem with bullies and hypocrisy


There is a you tube video: Here

It didn't seem like it was bullying to me, but then I couldn't associate myself with the ideas and behavior he was criticizing.

I'd be interested to hear your view after you watch the video. In particular:

Do you think his critique of the Bible merited people walking out?

Did he attack people or ideas and behavior?

Would you describe his comments about the students who left as bullying?

Would you have felt personally attacked if you were there?
 
2012-04-28 09:03:11 AM  

barefoot in the head: He would have done them a greater service by reading them the Sermon on the Mount.


Done who a greater service? The anti-gay Christians? Yeah, sure, they'll listen to what a gay atheist has to say about Jesus.

barefoot in the head: If he had been more like Jesus in that moment, he might have captured some hearts - hearts he probably had in the first place, but has now lost.


He was being very much like Jesus by pointing out the hypocrisy in cherry picking the old testament. Jesus hated hypocrisy.
 
2012-04-28 09:03:29 AM  
I think a lot of what is in the Bible was more utilitarian than religious. Not eating shellfish and cloven hoofed animals had an actual benefit to health, you didn't get diseases from eating them undercooked. If you didn't have sex with other men, your chances of contracting an STD were lower. Today we have an understanding about where diseases come from and that fully cooking pork and using condoms can save yourself a lot of grief. Back then, humans had no idea, and when the smart people figured out that eating pork or porking other guys could make you ill, they built it into a religious tenet to avoid those things.
 
2012-04-28 09:03:56 AM  

barefoot in the head: Because there is also wisdom there. Any thoughtful person knows there is no danger in a few bad ideas, if the real harvest is a lot of good ones. The people who miss the wisdom and fixate on the rules, metaphors, anthropomorphism and dates have missed an opportunity to see.


i'm really enjoying the "wise troll" act you're putting on. quite enjoyable. I hope to see more trolls of this type. Definitely more entertaining than the usual hatred and vile invective.
 
2012-04-28 09:05:47 AM  
Ok, I'll just put this out here: who exactly did they think they scheduled to speak? I'm a fan of Dan Savage, but I'll admit he's not the first one I think of when I think "speak at a bs high school journalist conference". That's like bringing Howard Stern to lead your bible study. He wasn't wrong in his statements, but the organizers should have better their speakers better. Right message, wrong audience.
 
2012-04-28 09:05:59 AM  

barefoot in the head: Teachings along these lines are attributed to Jesus, and even if he never existed, the way still does.


But by acknowledging that you have to acknowledge that there ARE no true Christians because there are no true teachings of Christ.
 
2012-04-28 09:06:57 AM  
Did they even ask Dan Savage for comment? What a poor, poor piece of journalism. I also love that more than half of the commentors keep saying that Obama is a Muslim who hates our freedom! He may hate our freedom, but he is still a Christian.
 
2012-04-28 09:07:06 AM  

MagnesDrachen: Ok, I'll just put this out here: who exactly did they think they scheduled to speak? I'm a fan of Dan Savage, but I'll admit he's not the first one I think of when I think "speak at a bs high school journalist conference". That's like bringing Howard Stern to lead your bible study. He wasn't wrong in his statements, but the organizers should have better their speakers better. Right message, wrong audience.



Yeah. I gotta admit that is some really poor planning on the organizers part.
 
2012-04-28 09:07:09 AM  

truthseeker2083: cman: No offense, but you may just be taken a bit more seriously if you were to act professional in an environment such as that. You are supposed to point out the flaws in the other group, not give them fodder to fight against you.

No offense, but the gay community has taken about as much as they can, and having tried civil tones before, some people just snap at the stupid. That's what happened according to this article (I woild like to see another source, as a 'culture wars' 'reporter' from fox news smacks of bias, but...). Sometimes, even the most professional of people can have enough of it, and say 'fark it, enough is enough'. When he's pointed out their mistakes thousands of times, I don't care if he did snap, he's handled the right-wing fundie's crap better than most people would.


And so clearly the people you'd want to attack are Christian students who were open minded enough to show up to this thing and hear what you have to say. Dumbass.
 
2012-04-28 09:08:09 AM  

Shahab: What a poor, poor piece of journalism.


It's an article from Fox News.

/Sorry to be redundant there
 
2012-04-28 09:09:24 AM  
They were being directly ridiculed and mocked for their belief. They stood up and quietly tried to leave, without rancor and arguement, to receive more verbal abuse.

Its verbal abuse and emotional abuse.

He called them pansy asses for acting more maturely than he was, by a LONG SHOT, way to set the example, he's a pathetic asshat.

They shoulda teamed up and tore him apart, and spelled pansy ass with his body parts,
But christians have that whole
/turn the other cheek
thing going on.
AT LEAST they live how they believe. Unlike this dumbass, bullying kids who havent done any thing.
 
2012-04-28 09:09:31 AM  

Brubold: truthseeker2083: cman: No offense, but you may just be taken a bit more seriously if you were to act professional in an environment such as that. You are supposed to point out the flaws in the other group, not give them fodder to fight against you.

No offense, but the gay community has taken about as much as they can, and having tried civil tones before, some people just snap at the stupid. That's what happened according to this article (I woild like to see another source, as a 'culture wars' 'reporter' from fox news smacks of bias, but...). Sometimes, even the most professional of people can have enough of it, and say 'fark it, enough is enough'. When he's pointed out their mistakes thousands of times, I don't care if he did snap, he's handled the right-wing fundie's crap better than most people would.

And so clearly the people you'd want to attack are Christian students who were open minded enough to show up to this thing and hear what you have to say. Dumbass.


So what exactly did he say that was attacking them besides "Stop cherry-picking parts of Leviticus just so you can be bigoted towards gays?"

Difficulty: The Fox News article doesn't count because it's discredited BS
 
2012-04-28 09:09:36 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Kurmudgeon: Oh look, Fark is having a Christian bashing thread, we hadn't had one of those for awhile.
Still ugly, still prejudicial, still factually wrong.

Look up where Christ said people were being "stiff necked" and wrong.
Leviticus is Levite priest law, same people who crucified Christ.
But go ahead, attack Jesus without even realizing He was punished same as you.
Oh wait, no they killed him, it was worse.
Don't care what you do with your genitals or who you associate with, stop using that as your excuse to hate.
I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears.

Yes we know you're persecuted.

I'm a Christian too but it's high time we start calling these assholes out. They cry when I pick and choose which parts of the Bible to follow but yet they do the same farking thing.

Fark them. They're all disgraces to Christianity and no where did Jesus say we should be total assholes to people just because we don't like them. In fact he taught us the OPPOSITE!!!

/rant off


you know what? that is absolutely reasonable.
the problem is he didn't go seek out and find Westboro Baptist Church and scream at them for using Leviticus to attack homosexuals. he wasn't even having a debate with an adult theologian and started to yell Leviticus is bullshiat.
he basically just started screaming the bible is bullshiat a dozen times to a bunch of highschool kids at a f*cking antibullying seminar.
 
2012-04-28 09:11:55 AM  

Brubold: truthseeker2083: cman: No offense, but you may just be taken a bit more seriously if you were to act professional in an environment such as that. You are supposed to point out the flaws in the other group, not give them fodder to fight against you.

No offense, but the gay community has taken about as much as they can, and having tried civil tones before, some people just snap at the stupid. That's what happened according to this article (I woild like to see another source, as a 'culture wars' 'reporter' from fox news smacks of bias, but...). Sometimes, even the most professional of people can have enough of it, and say 'fark it, enough is enough'. When he's pointed out their mistakes thousands of times, I don't care if he did snap, he's handled the right-wing fundie's crap better than most people would.

And so clearly the people you'd want to attack are Christian students who were open minded enough to show up to this thing and hear what you have to say. Dumbass.


He didn't attack anybody, and the one's who ' were open minded enough to show up to this thing and hear what you have to say' walked out because he dared challenge their view. Dumbass.
 
2012-04-28 09:12:30 AM  

relcec: he basically just started screaming the bible is bullshiat a dozen times to a bunch of highschool kids at a f*cking antibullying seminar.


That's a flat out lie.
 
2012-04-28 09:13:18 AM  

Samaura: They were being directly ridiculed and mocked for their belief. They stood up and quietly tried to leave, without rancor and arguement, to receive more verbal abuse.

Its verbal abuse and emotional abuse.

He called them pansy asses for acting more maturely than he was, by a LONG SHOT, way to set the example, he's a pathetic asshat.

They shoulda teamed up and tore him apart, and spelled pansy ass with his body parts,
But christians have that whole
/turn the other cheek
thing going on.
AT LEAST they live how they believe. Unlike this dumbass, bullying kids who havent done any thing.


It's funny you believed the Fox News article verbatim.

Critical thinking isn't your strong suit huh?
 
2012-04-28 09:14:01 AM  
you know how you guys always say the way to deal with bullies is to knock them on their asses?

The public face of christianity -- i.e., evangelicals -- has been bullying gay people for years. Dan Savage knocked them on their asses, and now they're calling foul.
 
2012-04-28 09:14:05 AM  
rlv.zcache.com

You're utterly free to rant away, anti-bully dude; and I'm utterly free to not listen to your rants.
 
2012-04-28 09:14:55 AM  

relcec: he basically just started screaming the bible is bullshiat


He didn't say the Bible was bullshiat. Just certain parts (including parts the self-righteous ones even ignore)

"We can learn to ignore the bullshiat in the Bible about gay people, the same way we have learned to ignore the bullshiat in the Bible about shellfish, about slavery, about dinner, about farming, about menstruation, about virginity, about masturbation," Savage said. "We ignore bullshiat in the Bible about all sorts of things."
 
2012-04-28 09:15:42 AM  

Mrtraveler01: relcec: he wasn't giving kids shiat about their religion at an antibullying seminar?

No, the non-biased articles basically show him telling the kids that unless you don't eat shellfish, wear non-cotton clothes, etc, then you can't use Leviticus as an excuse to be bigoted towards gays. Essentially, he was calling them out on their hypocrisy, the self-rightous Christian that left the room cried that he was being mean to them instead of recognizing that he was telling them the truth.

There is absolutely no citation of anything else that article claimed he said outside of a bunch of hearsay from someone on a blog.


I watched the video. it's linked a few dozen posts above I think.
he was yelling the bible is bullshiat through the PA.
and you don't know who is a f*cking hypocrite. he didn't ask them what they even believed. and you know you would have a big problem with this if it was any other religion, as I would. and that's a big f*cking problem that you demand tolerance and at least a modicum of respect for every group save one.
 
2012-04-28 09:16:36 AM  

alowishus: relcec: he basically just started screaming the bible is bullshiat a dozen times to a bunch of highschool kids at a f*cking antibullying seminar.

That's a flat out lie.


nope
 
2012-04-28 09:16:57 AM  

GilRuiz1: You're utterly free to rant away, anti-bully dude; and I'm utterly free to not listen to your rants.


What did he say that was wrong?
 
2012-04-28 09:18:17 AM  
"We can learn to ignore the bullshiat in the Bible about gay people, the same way we have learned to ignore the bullshiat in the Bible about shellfish, about slavery, about dinner, about farming, about menstruation, about virginity, about masturbation," Savage said. "We ignore bullshiat in the Bible about all sorts of things."

You see, that's not an unreasonable statement. Not the raving lunatic FOX describes in their "news".
 
2012-04-28 09:19:20 AM  

relcec: he wasn't giving kids shiat about their religion at an antibullying seminar?


No, he was attacking the hypocritical application of ancient law to justify hatred and discrimination toward himself and other GLBT individuals. Some members of the audience left during that, and afterwards he called out that behavior. To me it doesn't cross the line into bullying, but you may feel differently.

Here's the video, watch it yourself and let us know what you think.

it is absolutely a repudiation of everything you claim to believe as a progressive .
toleration, multiculturalism, treating people equally, judging people as individuals and not by what people with similar cultural characteristics have done in the past. it is not even slightly kosher to go yell at a bunch of highschool kids through a PA System at a f*cking antibullying seminar of all places that their religion is "bullshiat" a dozen times. this isn't even debatable.


Yes, that would be unacceptable. It's also not at all what happened. Again, watch the video.

you would not tolerate this even slightly if he was telling a group of muslim kids that the koran was bullshiat a few dozen times at any kind of f*cking sschool seminar. if a conservative had actually done this to a group of muslims you would say he got what he deserved when he got death threats.

Nobody deserves death threats for expressing ideas, even if those ideas are awful and repugnant. They deserve to have people stand up and challenge those ideas.

If, in a public forum, a speaker had said that some specific ideas in the Koran were bullshiat, I'd have no problem with that, just as I don't when he said that about some of the specific ideas in the Bible. That's substantially different than calling out a specific group of kids for criticism based on their religion, or telling them their religion was bullshiat as if one knows what they all believe.

now I'd admit many conservatives would be cheering him on in that case and that would mean many of them are hypocrites, but you wouldn't, you'd be calling for him to apologize and that makes you a ...

... person who actually watched the video and doesn't agree with how it was portrayed in the article.
 
2012-04-28 09:21:10 AM  

PonceAlyosha: barefoot in the head: Teachings along these lines are attributed to Jesus, and even if he never existed, the way still does.

But by acknowledging that you have to acknowledge that there ARE no true Christians because there are no true teachings of Christ.


I've never claimed to be Christian. There is, likewise, nothing to be pointed at as Zen. There is knowledge to be found. It doesn't matter where it comes from, or what it is called, or who said it. These are distractions and so is Leviticus, and in the clip so was Savage a distraction to his own purpose.
 
2012-04-28 09:21:20 AM  

relcec: he was yelling the bible is bullshiat through the PA


Read the quote about what he actually said and realize what he meant.

He's right, there's ton of stuff in the Bible (including the Laws of Leviticus) we ignore so why not call people out when they only follow one part of Leviticus to justify their bigotry.

Could he have worded it better? Considering the audience, I can see that to be a reasonable suggestion. But his message I agree with 100%. I don't think the Bible as a whole is BS but there's a ton of BS in there we do ignore.
 
2012-04-28 09:21:22 AM  

relcec: alowishus: relcec: he basically just started screaming the bible is bullshiat a dozen times to a bunch of highschool kids at a f*cking antibullying seminar.

That's a flat out lie.

nope


I have an old encyclopedia that lists Pluto as a planet. Therefore, Paris isn't the capital of France. Right? Because one flaw in a book means the entire thing is bullshiat.
 
2012-04-28 09:21:42 AM  
Oh look! A bunch of straight people 'splaining to gays how they should act! LGBT people don't have to act any way to convince you their position is correct. It's not Dan Savage's responsibility to convince anyone to stop being a farking bigot. That responsibility lies with the farking bigots.
 
2012-04-28 09:22:13 AM  

alowishus: GilRuiz1: You're utterly free to rant away, anti-bully dude; and I'm utterly free to not listen to your rants.

What did he say that was wrong?


On a forum that filters out the word bull**** because it's NSFW, we have a bunch of people who think it's OK to use it when speaking to a group of high school students. Classy!
 
2012-04-28 09:23:01 AM  

TheXerox: Turning an anti-bully speech into a platform for bullying a belief which is different from your own


watch the video.

tell me how pointing out that the bible has been used to justify slavery is an instance of bullying. we now regard that stance as morally deplorable, so how can we be so confident in the truth of the stance that homosexuality should not be tolerated?

many people who hate homosexuals use the bible as their source. if you can discredit the source by appealing to their power of reason then you have advanced the cause of anti-bullying.
 
2012-04-28 09:23:50 AM  

MarkEC: On a forum that filters out the word bull**** because it's NSFW, we have a bunch of people who think it's OK to use it when speaking to a group of high school students. Classy!


Won't someone think of the children! They've never heard those words before! fark you and fark that. Homophobia is not a legitimate viewpoint regardless of WHAT you use to justify it with.
 
2012-04-28 09:24:45 AM  

MarkEC: alowishus: GilRuiz1: You're utterly free to rant away, anti-bully dude; and I'm utterly free to not listen to your rants.

What did he say that was wrong?

On a forum that filters out the word bull**** because it's NSFW, we have a bunch of people who think it's OK to use it when speaking to a group of high school students. Classy!


Like I said, he probably could've used different wording. But I totally agree with the message and I can't see how anyone can disagree with that.
 
2012-04-28 09:25:04 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Brubold: truthseeker2083: cman: No offense, but you may just be taken a bit more seriously if you were to act professional in an environment such as that. You are supposed to point out the flaws in the other group, not give them fodder to fight against you.

No offense, but the gay community has taken about as much as they can, and having tried civil tones before, some people just snap at the stupid. That's what happened according to this article (I woild like to see another source, as a 'culture wars' 'reporter' from fox news smacks of bias, but...). Sometimes, even the most professional of people can have enough of it, and say 'fark it, enough is enough'. When he's pointed out their mistakes thousands of times, I don't care if he did snap, he's handled the right-wing fundie's crap better than most people would.

And so clearly the people you'd want to attack are Christian students who were open minded enough to show up to this thing and hear what you have to say. Dumbass.

So what exactly did he say that was attacking them besides "Stop cherry-picking parts of Leviticus just so you can be bigoted towards gays?"

Difficulty: The Fox News article doesn't count because it's discredited BS


I watched the video linked above and he was obviously being antagonistic to any Christians in the room. Calling the Bible BS and such. I wouldn't have stuck around either as it's clear that anything he had to say after that point wasn't going to lead to understanding or healing. All this guy did was take a group of students who were willing to come listen to what he had to say and possibly come to understand what life is like for a young gay person living amongst them and he flushed that opportunity down the toilet.

How many of those students went home believing that the bigots in their families and churches had been right all along? All this guy did was create a bunch of potential WBC members.
 
2012-04-28 09:25:46 AM  

PonceAlyosha: MarkEC: On a forum that filters out the word bull**** because it's NSFW, we have a bunch of people who think it's OK to use it when speaking to a group of high school students. Classy!

Won't someone think of the children! They've never heard those words before! fark you and fark that. Homophobia is not a legitimate viewpoint regardless of WHAT you use to justify it with.


I know, high schoolers never cuss.
 
2012-04-28 09:25:55 AM  

firefaery29: Since when is Dan Savage a journalist anyway? That guy is a tool. And the org was stupid for hiring a well-known outspoken sex columnist as a keynote speaker at a retreat for teenagers.

My point was that of course his language and tone and message would have inappropriate content for some of the audience members. I'm a lesbian, I couldn't care less about whether Dan Savage is gay, but I do care that they hired the guy who changed the definition of Santorum forever.


Really, he should have been forced to spew his frothy mix of Salve-Fudge wisdom somewhere else.
 
2012-04-28 09:26:45 AM  

Mrtraveler01: relcec: he basically just started screaming the bible is bullshiat

He didn't say the Bible was bullshiat. Just certain parts (including parts the self-righteous ones even ignore)

you have a problem with self-righteous? you?
you've got to be f*cking kidding me. you need to look up that word, seriously.

it is inappropriate to scream at a bunch of highschool kids that their holy book is bullshiat.
every f*cking time. not just when they are group that you feel has been marginalized by conservatives. and I'll just say it appears we may have to disagree about this and go to bed mrtraveler. have a good one.

 
2012-04-28 09:26:48 AM  

Brubold: Calling the Bible BS and such.


Saying that parts of the Bible are BS (they really are), doesn't mean he said the entire book was BS.
 
2012-04-28 09:28:23 AM  

MarkEC: alowishus: GilRuiz1: You're utterly free to rant away, anti-bully dude; and I'm utterly free to not listen to your rants.

What did he say that was wrong?

On a forum that filters out the word bull**** because it's NSFW, we have a bunch of people who think it's OK to use it when speaking to a group of high school students. Classy!


The forum filters out shiat in order to keep the site available for people at work, not because of any moral values.
 
2012-04-28 09:29:47 AM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: 4) You're a liability to the LGBT+ community. I'm not even gay and I recognize this.


No, idiots who think it is okay to let stupid reflexive bigotry go unchallenged and respected who are a liability to our community. You know, the ones actively trying to rip away the tiny farking amount of civil rights we've managed to gain? They're not doing it because Dan Savage is a meanie, they're doing it because PEOPLE LET THEM.
 
2012-04-28 09:30:32 AM  

relcec: you have a problem with self-righteous? you?
you've got to be f*cking kidding me. you need to look up that word, seriously.


I'm not self-righteous. I'm far from perfect. I mean I have my opinions and such (being Fark after all) but I don't think I'm right all the time. I probably should've used "holier-than-thou" to make my point more clear.


it is inappropriate to scream at a bunch of highschool kids that their holy book is bullshiat.
every f*cking time. not just when they are group that you feel has been marginalized by conservatives. and I'll just say it appears we may have to disagree about this and go to bed mrtraveler. have a good one.


He didn't say the Bible was BS, just the dated and antiquated parts that most Christians don't even bother to follow anymore.

I think we're just getting into an argument over semantics so you're probably right, it's a pointless venture and might as well stop it here.
 
2012-04-28 09:30:38 AM  

firefly212: Yup, C. Those farkers bully people all the time, then walk out when they get called out for it and cry about how they were bullied for being christians when in fact, they were called out for being douchetastic dickbags to others of the people they claim to be God's children, despite Jesus being pretty farking clear in the beatitudes about his dad doing the whole God bit while we do the whole love thy neighbor bit.


Thank you for stating this so well.
 
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