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(Wired)   The US is quietly positioning a lot of stealth aircraft near Iran. October surprise anyone?   (wired.com) divider line 459
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2012-04-27 11:32:39 PM

Gyrfalcon: Plus America holding back Saudi Arabia


Is that the case?

For about two decades, I've kept hearing that many Arab states, including Saudi Arabia, would love to see Iran (non-Arab) knocked down and so would overtly make a show of condemning Israel but actually do nothing, or even covertly provide support.

Not that I know shiat.
 
2012-04-27 11:33:56 PM
Those of you claiming this would be political suicide for Obama don't have a clue what you're talking about. If I understand what I've read on Free Republic et. al. this is the excuse Obama will use to initiate martial law and suspend elections, thus setting himself up as ruler for life.
 
2012-04-27 11:34:55 PM

Somacandra: There was another recent Fark article of dubious import stating that Russia is massing its own forces near its relevant borders in preparation for anything that goes down. Perhaps there is some connection (if this turns out to be true at all)


why yes, I indeed think they are doing just that
 
2012-04-27 11:35:56 PM
I smell bullsh*t subby.
 
2012-04-27 11:36:02 PM

cameroncrazy1984: vygramul: Weaver95: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

They haven't needed to do it in the past. And just what would Iran do to retaliate? Have Hezbollah fire a few more Katyushas?

Iran had a larger army and a larger population than israel, don't they?


Their land forces are irrelevant vis a vis Israel. The only two things that would be worse for them than trying to march through US-occupied Iraq would be trying to march through Turkey or Saudi Arabia. That's the beauty of having Israel do it. What are they gonna do? Fund Hezbollah? Sponsor terrorists?

If the president pulls that off (or if Israel does it independently and we merely offer defensive air support) he'll have really pulled off a good one. The only cost to him is he'll have to hang out with Kissinger at the Peace Price Laurates party.
 
2012-04-27 11:36:23 PM
And what? You people don't think AIPAC should get what they've paid for?
 
2012-04-27 11:36:36 PM

Nadie_AZ: People are tired of offensive wars. Let Iran and Israel square off. Without our money or weapons or man power.


So you want to buy oil from Israel a few years from now is what you're saying?
 
2012-04-27 11:37:04 PM

cman: I criticize Obama a lot, but even I am not that jaded to believe that he would do this. There is no way Obama will attack Iran. None.


Who's being naive, Kay?
 
2012-04-27 11:38:00 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Why do I feel like if they were quietly doing something with stealth aircraft...we wouldn't know about it?

 
2012-04-27 11:38:09 PM
Who the hell is going to pay for this little fête du freedom? The 1% damn sure are not and I've got no spare coin. I hate to think of how low the US credit rating will go if we borrow the $10 trillion this shiatfest will cost.
 
2012-04-27 11:38:51 PM
kill'em all and let their gods sort them out.
 
2012-04-27 11:39:10 PM
Insiders selling off stock like crazy, now this. I'm convinced.
 
2012-04-27 11:40:49 PM

cman: NFA: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

I criticize Obama a lot, but even I am not that jaded to believe that he would do this. There is no way Obama will attack Iran. None.


Why not? We've been committing acts of war against Iran almost continuously since 1953.
 
2012-04-27 11:40:59 PM
And the Russians are not so quietly staging forces near the northern border.

Obama - just say no
 
2012-04-27 11:42:27 PM
Why amass a bunch of F-22's and F-15's when one of these will do just fine:

www.titan-ii.com


Delivered in 30 minutes or it's free. I don't even care anymore, and seriously, what's the point of having these things IF YOU NEVER ARE GOING TO USE THEM.
 
2012-04-27 11:43:18 PM

fragMasterFlash: Who the hell is going to pay for this little fête du freedom? The 1% damn sure are not and I've got no spare coin. I hate to think of how low the US credit rating will go if we borrow the $10 trillion this shiatfest will cost.


Modern Wars are cheap.

Social Security, Medicare, Unionized Public Schools, and Obamacare are very expensive.
 
2012-04-27 11:43:22 PM

No way Halliburton et al can justify this without, at least, a little saber rattling now and again. But as to an actual war with Iran - I'm betting against it, this decade. No way the political fallout would be bearable by either party.

nationalpriorities.org
 
Oak
2012-04-27 11:44:31 PM

Arkanaut: NFA: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

Does your friend work for the DoD or CIA or something? Otherwise I don't see what being in Abu Dhabi tells him about what's being planned/decided in Washington.


And what about what's being built in Abu Dhabi?

/Obamabots, like Bushbots, are funny.
 
2012-04-27 11:44:44 PM

GAT_00: Or, you know, not so quietly.


It's a distraction for the real attack on Canada.

At long last, we will have closure, my brothers!
 
2012-04-27 11:48:38 PM

beta_plus: Obama won't attack until after the election.

If he attacks Iran oil goes through the roof and his approval rating will crash through the cellar floor.


Good thing we don't get much oil from Iran then.

Dumbass...
 
2012-04-27 11:49:21 PM

TheEdibleSnuggie: Why amass a bunch of F-22's and F-15's when one of these will do just fine:

[www.titan-ii.com image 640x794]


Delivered in 30 minutes or it's free. I don't even care anymore, and seriously, what's the point of having these things IF YOU NEVER ARE GOING TO USE THEM.


Thank you, and ya they are pretty , let them be free ; )

/ Otherwise start figuring other ways to solve problems other than war.
/I mean really let's dot the world with these
www.snydertalk.com
 
2012-04-27 11:50:02 PM

beta_plus: fragMasterFlash: Who the hell is going to pay for this little fête du freedom? The 1% damn sure are not and I've got no spare coin. I hate to think of how low the US credit rating will go if we borrow the $10 trillion this shiatfest will cost.

Modern Wars are cheap.

Social Security, Medicare, Unionized Public Schools, and Obamacare are very expensive.


God I hope you're trolling.
 
2012-04-27 11:50:06 PM

cman: Nadie_AZ: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

The only reason Bush got away with Iraq was because of 9/11. No way anyone would have said 'do it' otherwise.

People are tired of offensive wars. Let Iran and Israel square off. Without our money or weapons or man power.

9/11 wasnt the sole reason. The US had been pushing Saddam as the boogie man for years. Worked so well they even had pro-war marches.


Let's not forget the current GDP is actually being dragged by cuts in government spending, particularly in military spending.

Wasn't it Lenin who said that the US could not survive economically without war or the threat of war? Sadly, I believe this is true.
 
2012-04-27 11:50:08 PM
What a sham if it happens. Pre-emptive is the new defense. Just ask Trayvon and the Iraqis.
 
2012-04-27 11:50:44 PM
Umm,,, If there so farking stealth, how do people know we're putting them there? Ah yes,,, media manipulation. Bought and payed for.
 
2012-04-27 11:53:26 PM

Weaver95: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.


Gotdam Weav, I know it's Friday night, but put down the bong and take a look at the farking map, will ya? It's nearly a thousand miles from Israel to Iran across two countries that hate both Israel and Iran with a passion. That eliminates any ground conflict between the two, and even if Israeli jets could reach Iran what are they going to do...drop a few bombs and go home?

Ain't gonna happen.
 
2012-04-27 11:53:28 PM
Jeez, I heard the Russians were secretly massing a giant thermonookular strike force to blow up the Moon.

It must be true coz I read it on the internets.
 
2012-04-27 11:54:00 PM

beta_plus: fragMasterFlash: Who the hell is going to pay for this little fête du freedom? The 1% damn sure are not and I've got no spare coin. I hate to think of how low the US credit rating will go if we borrow the $10 trillion this shiatfest will cost.

Modern Wars are cheap.

Social Security, Medicare, Unionized Public Schools, and Obamacare are very expensive.


www.memecreator.net

See how "cheap" modern war really is...
 
2012-04-27 11:57:31 PM
Iran is the next target of US "Freedom Fighters" and "Job Creators". It probably won't happen for another year or 2, but the press has to plant the seed cultivate it.
 
2012-04-27 11:58:22 PM
I don't claim to know anything about stealth aircraft in the middle-east, but there have been bears discovered on the moon.
 
2012-04-28 12:00:02 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: I hope so I'm tired of hearing about and I want it now live 24/7 on the tv screen, who bombed who, death tolls civilian body counts all the way till the big ballon goes up and thirty minutes later delivered like a hot crappy pizza we all get to rest.

99 red balloons

/Tired of the warmongering and just wish they'd do it.


2 80's songs linked IN A ROW.

This has to be some sort of sign.
 
2012-04-28 12:00:17 AM
I doubt that the Nobel Peace Prize winner would attack Iran.
 
2012-04-28 12:02:53 AM
If anyone looks at a map of the middle east and how it's changed over the last 10 years and doesn't see the US is basically playing divide and conquer like the Soviets did after WW2, please cash in your history card.
 
2012-04-28 12:04:01 AM
will i get yelled at if i said i hope Iran gets Nukes soon so that we don't end up in another war?
 
2012-04-28 12:04:15 AM

beta_plus: Modern Wars are cheap.

Social Security, Medicare, Unionized Public Schools, and Obamacare are very expensive.



Mrtraveler01: See how "cheap" modern war really is...


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2012-04-28 12:06:34 AM

ununcle: If anyone looks at a map of the middle east and how it's changed over the last 10 years and doesn't see the US is basically playing divide and conquer like the Soviets did after WW2, please cash in your history card.


Can you feel this in for me?

Apart from Iraq, isn't the rest of this a result of "Arab Spring"?

And uh, if you are giving the US "credit" for this, isn't this what PNAC and Bush said would occur?
 
2012-04-28 12:07:06 AM

Alucard1191: tinfoil-hat maggie: I hope so I'm tired of hearing about and I want it now live 24/7 on the tv screen, who bombed who, death tolls civilian body counts all the way till the big ballon goes up and thirty minutes later delivered like a hot crappy pizza we all get to rest.

99 red balloons

/Tired of the warmongering and just wish they'd do it.

2 80's songs linked IN A ROW.

This has to be some sort of sign.


We sorta kind of remember the 80's but it should have ended in an Earth shattering ka-boom.
The Ink Spots
 
2012-04-28 12:07:15 AM

lazyguineapig33: will i get yelled at if i said i hope Iran gets Nukes soon so that we don't end up in another war?


Probably. Also People will imply you long for the distruction of Isreal.
 
2012-04-28 12:08:25 AM

Somacandra: There was another recent Fark article of dubious import stating that Russia is massing its own forces near its relevant borders in preparation for anything that goes down. Perhaps there is some connection (if this turns out to be true at all)



Russia doesn't have a border with Iran. However..... their border that's closest to Iran is their border with Georgia. You know, the place Russia decided to smack around in 2008? THAT'S most likely why they're massing troops there. Anything they're saying otherwise is probably a ruse.
 
2012-04-28 12:09:00 AM
Really?

I hope that if our government decides to go to war, it'll at least have the common decency to institute a draft.
 
2012-04-28 12:09:40 AM
How about this. Lets NOT murder a bunch of brown people and kill a bunch of our own people as well. Lets just skip this war. If Israel wants a war let them do it alone. Not our business.
 
2012-04-28 12:10:46 AM

RoyBatty: ununcle: If anyone looks at a map of the middle east and how it's changed over the last 10 years and doesn't see the US is basically playing divide and conquer like the Soviets did after WW2, please cash in your history card.

Can you feel this in for me?

Apart from Iraq, isn't the rest of this a result of "Arab Spring"?

And uh, if you are giving the US "credit" for this, isn't this what PNAC and Bush said would occur?


Arab Spring? The revolutions in Egypt, Libya? You don't think the west had a hand in that?
 
2012-04-28 12:12:14 AM

Kurland: How about this. Lets NOT murder a bunch of brown people and kill a bunch of our own people as well. Lets just skip this war. If Israel wants a war let them do it alone. Not our business.


And here's the guy who thinks this has to do with being brown.
 
2012-04-28 12:13:35 AM

Oldiron_79: Nadie_AZ: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

The only reason Bush got away with Iraq was because of 9/11. No way anyone would have said 'do it' otherwise.

People are tired of offensive wars. Let Iran and Israel square off. Without our money or weapons or man power.

Well 9/11 wasn't the ONLY reason, don't forget that Clinton had tried(and failed) pushing congress to go to war with Iraq over violating the UN agreements back when he was trying to get the attention off of Monica,


Horse shiat.

Clinton successfully destroyed Iraq's chemical weapons program while the right wing morons (and by that, I mean you) screamed "wag the dog!" but at no time did he eve push to invade, hold or tip over the Iraqi regime. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to suggest or support that...

Oh, wait...
 
2012-04-28 12:14:05 AM

Kurland: How about this. Lets NOT murder a bunch of brown people and kill a bunch of our own people as well. Lets just skip this war. If Israel wants a war let them do it alone. Not our business.


but how else will we divert the public's attention away from our very real and very serious domestic problems if we aren't killing those super scary muslims?
 
2012-04-28 12:14:38 AM

gameshowhost: It's not like the GOP has been begging for it for ye... wait, they've been begging for it for years.


Party of Fear.

/wonder how much they'd be begging for it if war profiteering was illegal
 
2012-04-28 12:14:52 AM

cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?


The Republicans will never stand for it.
 
2012-04-28 12:15:03 AM

deadcrickets:

I agree it would be political suicide to go to war with Iran right now. However, if you watch the Pentagon Channel you'll see they are already telegraphing some troop movements into the area to places like Georgia.


Yeah, but the Pentagon Channel hasn't been any good since they started with programming stuff like Alien Hunters and Surplus Stars.
 
2012-04-28 12:16:30 AM
Must not be too quiet if a Fark subby knows about it.
 
2012-04-28 12:16:41 AM

stuffy: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

The Republicans will never stand for it.


...even though they keep calling for it, then chicken(hawk)ing back out.
 
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