I fail to see any connection between Rolling Stone and music. It's like linking Vogue and skydiving.

would like to add

the modern dance- pere ubu

So everyone hates Rolling Stone, since they know "nothing" about music.

Point us to a better top 500 made by a more knowledgeable institution, then....?

Christian Bale: So everyone hates Rolling Stone, since they know "nothing" about music.

Point us to a better top 500 made by a more knowledgeable institution, then....?

It's been a joke for years and you know it. They are paid to make these ignorant lists, nobody is this blatantly stupid. If you think that anything Rolling Stone does is relevant anymore then you deserve a kick in the baby maker.

Thwack: And Rush is nowhere to be found. Of course it's a Rolling Stone list, so no surprise.

OMG.

Rush fans are like Ron Paul fans...

Each member of Rush is an incredible musician, but Rush as a band has all the problems that Clapton said about Cream: There was no band, really, just "three virtuosos soloing all the time."

The difference between Rush and Cream is that Cream was hugely influential and widely imitated. Rush certainly has its fans, but I don't hear a whole lot of successful, creative musicians listing Rush among their influences.

So give it a rest, please...

She comes in colors everywhere: Thwack: And Rush is nowhere to be found. Of course it's a Rolling Stone list, so no surprise.

OMG.

Rush fans are like Ron Paul fans...

Each member of Rush is an incredible musician, but Rush as a band has all the problems that Clapton said about Cream: There was no band, really, just "three virtuosos soloing all the time."

The difference between Rush and Cream is that Cream was hugely influential and widely imitated. Rush certainly has its fans, but I don't hear a whole lot of successful, creative musicians listing Rush among their influences.

So give it a rest, please...

And of course, you're wrong.

"They have been cited as an influence by various musical artists, including Metallica,[1] Primus,[2] and The Smashing Pumpkins,[2] as well as progressive metal bands such as Dream Theater[1] and Symphony X.[3]"

So yea, nobody who's won a Grammy or have made more money then God....

You fail. Horribly.

Scottybobotty: Christian Bale: So everyone hates Rolling Stone, since they know "nothing" about music.

Point us to a better top 500 made by a more knowledgeable institution, then....?

It's been a joke for years and you know it. They are paid to make these ignorant lists, nobody is this blatantly stupid. If you think that anything Rolling Stone does is relevant anymore then you deserve a kick in the baby maker.


So, point us to a better top 500 made by a more knowledgeable institution, then....?

Scottybobotty: [1] [2][2][1][3]

wtf is that?

also, you listed 5 bands. Really, 3 bands plus 2 screaming plies of crap, but whatev.

Now go tell me how many people were influenced by Cream.

Omahawg: too english?

Not a bad list...

She comes in colors everywhere: Scottybobotty: [1] [2][2][1][3]

wtf is that?

also, you listed 5 bands. Really, 3 bands plus 2 screaming plies of crap, but whatev.

Now go tell me how many people were influenced by Cream.

It's your opinion, welcome to it. Doesn't mean you're right.



Let me get you a tissue....

redmond24: I literally just got done listening to Kanye's Dark Twisted Fantasy and was telling myself how underrated it is.

Musically its close to sublime.

Derwood: Pet Sounds is the most overrated album in rock history.

I know their sound isn't for everybody but those vocals are so layered and original that I'm still amazed by it. Plus, that album has "God Only Knows" and Wouldn't It Be Nice" on it. Those are great songs.

Paul McCartney liked it too. I think it was what gave him the idea for Sgt. Pepper.

Omahawg: Christian Bale: Scottybobotty: Christian Bale: So everyone hates Rolling Stone, since they know "nothing" about music.

Point us to a better top 500 made by a more knowledgeable institution, then....?

It's been a joke for years and you know it. They are paid to make these ignorant lists, nobody is this blatantly stupid. If you think that anything Rolling Stone does is relevant anymore then you deserve a kick in the baby maker.


So, point us to a better top 500 made by a more knowledgeable institution, then....?

too english?


See, that wasn't so hard, even if it's only a top 100. Not sure if it's a better list, but it's certainly more interesting. "Marquee Moon" and Tom Waits in the top ten in the '85 list.

RS should have links to all their previous lists...I don't think they'd change as much as NME did from '74 to '85 to '93

Scottybobotty: She comes in colors everywhere: Scottybobotty: [1] [2][2][1][3]

wtf is that?

also, you listed 5 bands. Really, 3 bands plus 2 screaming plies of crap, but whatev.

Now go tell me how many people were influenced by Cream.

It's your opinion, welcome to it. Doesn't mean you're right.

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Let me get you a tissue....

I'm not the one whining that Rush can't get on a top 500 album list.

She comes in colors everywhere: 2 screaming plies of crap

Divine Wings of Tragedy and The New Mythology Suite are better than 90% of this list.

I would've put Schools Out by Alice Cooper on there. Love it to death is perfect, but nothing before or after sounds like Schools Out.

ahh rolling stone writers are tone deaf and is worse than the gold glove voting
so the albums worthy of 2000
Crowded House:Time On Earth
U2 atomic bomb
Cold play Viva la Vida
because of Steve Lillywhite and Brian Eno

duh... my favorite rock album this century is Iron Maiden's "Final Frontier"

expobill: duh... my favorite rock album this century is Iron Maiden's "Final Frontier"

Poser.

Dune: Iron Maiden. Explain?

No cheating.

As a boomer myself, I always thought Rolling Stone was always a perfect reflection of just how self-absorbed, pretentious and indulgent my generation has always been. This list is a good example of how the magazine is catering to it's demographic to keep profitable. A handful of performers from post- 2000 while the majority is from the '60s and '70s? What amusing arrogance. Like we invented music, or the only music that counts. 20 years from now, the Beatles, Stones and the rest will have passed into history. Maybe their music will influence future artists, or maybe not. Sorry, but it's true. The only generation to come close to our self-importance was the so-called lost generation of the 1920s. And at least they had the decency to stay drunk.

Omahawg: StoPPeRmobile: expobill: duh... my favorite rock album this century is Iron Maiden's "Final Frontier"

Poser.

Dune: Iron Maiden. Explain?

No cheating.

they both have worms?

Go back to your Nickleback MP3s.

Strongbeerrules: As a boomer myself, I always thought Rolling Stone was always a perfect reflection of just how self-absorbed, pretentious and indulgent my generation has always been. This list is a good example of how the magazine is catering to it's demographic to keep profitable. A handful of performers from post- 2000 while the majority is from the '60s and '70s? What amusing arrogance. Like we invented music, or the only music that counts. 20 years from now, the Beatles, Stones and the rest will have passed into history. Maybe their music will influence future artists, or maybe not. Sorry, but it's true. The only generation to come close to our self-importance was the so-called lost generation of the 1920s. And at least they had the decency to stay drunk.

Strongbeerrules: As a boomer myself, I always thought Rolling Stone was always a perfect reflection of just how self-absorbed, pretentious and indulgent my generation has always been. This list is a good example of how the magazine is catering to it's demographic to keep profitable. A handful of performers from post- 2000 while the majority is from the '60s and '70s? What amusing arrogance. Like we invented music, or the only music that counts. 20 years from now, the Beatles, Stones and the rest will have passed into history. Maybe their music will influence future artists, or maybe not. Sorry, but it's true. The only generation to come close to our self-importance was the so-called lost generation of the 1920s. And at least they had the decency to stay drunk.

Thank you Greek Bards.

I Officially stopped reading Rolling Stone after their "100 best guitar players" issue, in which they rated Bruce Springsteen higher than Alex Lifeson.

limboslam: I Officially stopped reading Rolling Stone after their "100 best guitar players" issue, in which they rated Bruce Springsteen higher than Alex Lifeson.

jesus christ on a candlestick.

StoPPeRmobile: expobill: duh... my favorite rock album this century is Iron Maiden's "Final Frontier"

Poser.

Dune: Iron Maiden. Explain?

No cheating.

To Tame A Land (who the f*ck doesn't know that?)

Carter III made the cut, is this some sort of disgusting joke? I hope a real hip-hop classic wasn't dropped for that shiat to make the list.

SPna15: StoPPeRmobile: expobill: duh... my favorite rock album this century is Iron Maiden's "Final Frontier"

Poser.

Dune: Iron Maiden. Explain?

No cheating.

To Tame A Land (who the f*ck doesn't know that?)

Rolling Stone.

OMG, they think Carter III is better than Criminal Minded, how so incredibly asinine for a music magazine to claim such a thing. I doubt even Lil Wayne thinks he could touch anything KRS One created. KRS One helped INVENT hip-hop, as far as I'm concerned, Lil Wayne has helped hurt hip-hops image and artistic credibility.

Back in Black seems underrated.

Derwood: Pet Sounds is the most overrated album in rock history.

I agree.

However, as a pop album, it really is an amazing record. I know most people who only know The Beach Boys hits will look at that album ranked so highly and think, "...really?" and I would have agreed with them until I really sat down and listened to the thing. Found a used copy of the vinyl for 48 cents at a used book store, started putting it on the record player here and there, and after awhile I just "got it". Tightly arranged, well-constructed songs, with great vocal harmonies, and lyrics that don't aspire to be anything more than simple stories and feelings. Somehow that group of guys (but almost exclusively Brian Wilson) managed to hit all the right notes for the entire length of an album, both vocally and musically, something that doesn't happen very often.

Is it one of the top 10 records of all time? Of course not, but it is an album that's really hard to find any particular fault with. If you are someone who plays an instrument and understands how songs are written, you can listen to that record and think, "Ok, this sounds really easy, there must be more too it," and then you do try to write a song like the ones on Pet Sounds, and it just doesn't work. It's so elegantly simple, that it's maddening.

So yeah, it's a terrible rock album. But it's a fantastic album. And really, it's hard to find much wrong with Rolling Stone's top 10, those are all great records. You can shuffle in your own personal favorites to the top, but if those 10 aren't somewhere in your own top 500, you're farking crazy.

I've never really given that entire list a good look over, and now that I do... I'm actually surprised by how far out of Rolling Stone's comfort zone they venture with some of those picks. But that says more about how insular Rolling Stone's tastes are, than how eclectic the list is.

Still, if some young kid just getting into music decides to check out some of the albums in the top, let's say 50 of that list, wondering what the big deal is, there is a very good chance they will develop a halfway decent taste in music. So that's something. I got started a very similar way, looking at lists like these back in the Napster days, trying to figure out what would be good to download. It turned me on to stuff like The Beatles, the Stones, Dylan, and from there it grew into a very diverse and respectable collection of artists from all sorts of genres and eras. So we can debate these rankings all we want, but I think we can all agree that these lists do have some positive side effects.

LewDux: THE DELETED:

Beach Boys: Sunflower
Beatles: With the Beatles
Boogie Down Productions: Criminal Minded
David Bowie: ChangesOneBowie
James Brown: 20 All Time Greatest Hits
Buena Vista Social Club: Buena Vista Social Club
Byrds: Greatest Hits
CCR: Green River
CCR: Cosmo's Factory
Def Leppard: Pyromania
Nick Drake: Five Leaves Left
Nick Drake: Bryter Layter
Eminem: The Eminem Show
Merle Haggard: Branded Man
PJ Harvey: To Bring You My Love
Jane's Addiction: Ritual de lo Habitual
Elton John: Elton John
Robert Johnson: King of the Delta Blues Singers
Robert Johnson: King of the Delta Blues Singers, Vol. 2
Madonna: Music
Mamas and the Papas: Greatest Hits
Massive Attack: Mezzanine
Alanis Morissette: Jagged Little Pill
No Doubt: Tragic Kingdom
No Doubt: Rock Steady
Elvis Presley: The Sun Sessions
Public Enemy: Yo! Bum Rush the Show
Rage Against the Machine: The Battle of Los Angeles
Otis Redding: Live in Europe
Otis Redding: Dreams to Remember
Linda Ronstadt: Heart Like a Wheel
Roxy Music: Country Life
Roxy Music: Avalon
Paul Simon: There Goes Rhymin' Simon
Simon and Garfunkel: Greatest Hits
Smashing Pumpkins: Mellon Collie
Bruce Springsteen: Greetings from Asbury Park, N. J.
Hank Williams: The Complete Hank Williams


what in the ever goddamn fark? I can see some of them, even though I like them (Ritual de lo Habitual is good, but not great. Mellon Collie has some good tracks but is bloated as fark), and some of them shouldn't have been there in the first place (Jagged Little Pill, anything by No Doubt, any greatest hits albums), but the Nick Drake albums? Mezzanine? This is just plain farking wrong in light of some of those added.


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No Pink Floyd, no SRV, but the massively overrated Dylan is in the top 10?

Pfft.

So, if you get rid of "oontz oontz oontz" songs, and "n*gga mothafarka n*gga mothafarka" songs, a lot of modern music gets left out?

You don't say.

Dark Side of the Moon is a top 10 album. Where is Who's next?

LewDux: [list of additions/removals]



is there a link for this, by the way?

Passive Aggressive Larry:

Your intelligent, well-reasoned thoughts aren't welcome in this thread. More "hurrrrr durrrrr mah favrit album" please.

You nailed "Pet Sounds" on the head.