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2012-04-28 09:16:59 AM  

shoegaze99: The Onanist: I've been going to baseball games for 40 years or so and I haven't caught a FB yet.

It wasn't a foul ball, it was a ball thrown into the stands for the kid. They intercepted it. Bad on them.

If it's a foul ball, you catch it and it's yours. No unwritten rule about handing those off. The catch wins the ball. But when a player does the ol' trot to the stands and toss a ball in routine, it's probably going to a kid. That was obviously the case here. If you accidentally intercept it, you give it to the kid. Always.

Not that I expect Fark kid-hate parade to understand that.


I saw something very different. Moreland barely even looked up, let alone pick out a very small child in his father's arms several rows back. If it comes your way, it's yours. I'm in the same boat as The Onanist - after 40+ years I've never caught one, and when I do, it's mine. I won't grab it in front of anyone else (adult or child - and if I did, I'd have at least two by now that I can think of), but if it comes to me, it's mine. Maybe after I've caught quite a few I'll hand one to a random kid nearby.
 
2012-04-28 09:20:09 AM  
A visual CSB!

I'm the guy with the catcher's mitt. This is the closest I've ever come to getting a ball at a big league game during play. Very surreal...I was just watching the Mets bullpen, not expecting this at all even with Cabby up to bat. All of a sudden it's coming right at me. I could see the seams on the ball. No, the Mets' bullpen coach wouldn't give it to me...Booooooooo!!

My wife, on the other hand, got a batting practice foul ball hit from Franklyn Stubbs of the Brewers in 1992 at the new Comiskey Park. It had woodgrain pattern scuff marks from his bat, which I thought was cool! We kept it in nice shape for years until we finally played catch with it because we didn't care anymore.
 
2012-04-28 09:24:35 AM  
(I did have a screaming line drive foul ball glance off my fingertips at a Michigan Battle Cats game as I strained to reach as far as I could over the railing, beer in the other hand, but that was just class A. Would've been an incredible catch.)

/CSBs
 
2012-04-28 09:43:33 AM  

Super Chronic: shoegaze99: The Onanist: I've been going to baseball games for 40 years or so and I haven't caught a FB yet.

It wasn't a foul ball, it was a ball thrown into the stands for the kid. They intercepted it. Bad on them.

If it's a foul ball, you catch it and it's yours. No unwritten rule about handing those off. The catch wins the ball. But when a player does the ol' trot to the stands and toss a ball in routine, it's probably going to a kid. That was obviously the case here. If you accidentally intercept it, you give it to the kid. Always.

Not that I expect Fark kid-hate parade to understand that.

I saw something very different. Moreland barely even looked up, let alone pick out a very small child in his father's arms several rows back. If it comes your way, it's yours. I'm in the same boat as The Onanist - after 40+ years I've never caught one, and when I do, it's mine. I won't grab it in front of anyone else (adult or child - and if I did, I'd have at least two by now that I can think of), but if it comes to me, it's mine. Maybe after I've caught quite a few I'll hand one to a random kid nearby.


And even the kid's parents saw something different. Guess they're bad people, too.
 
2012-04-28 09:51:57 AM  
If you're not a little kid, I don't get why you want the foul ball in the first place. So it was "used" in a MLB game. Big deal.

Of course, I don't get autographs either.
 
2012-04-28 09:53:19 AM  
What we have all learned.

1 little kids get in free.

2 They are great foul ball shields.

3 Even if no foul balls bounce off them somebody woll probably throw a ball at/to them.

4 Even if the kid cant catch they'll keep throwing balls until the kid gets one.

5 Youd be a fool not to bring a toddler with you.
 
2012-04-28 10:29:40 AM  
When I was little, I was at a rugby match and caught a ball. Some big muddy fark with no ears or teeth took it off me.
 
2012-04-28 10:31:51 AM  
Headline hurts my head as bad as not getting the foul ball hurt the little snowflake's feelings.
 
2012-04-28 10:36:01 AM  
Poor kid...I mean his suffering is on par with that of kids in Sub Saharan Africa. I
 
2012-04-28 10:47:58 AM  

Ow My Balls: A visual CSB!

I'm the guy with the catcher's mitt. This is the closest I've ever come to getting a ball at a big league game during play. Very surreal...I was just watching the Mets bullpen, not expecting this at all even with Cabby up to bat. All of a sudden it's coming right at me. I could see the seams on the ball. No, the Mets' bullpen coach wouldn't give it to me...Booooooooo!!

My wife, on the other hand, got a batting practice foul ball hit from Franklyn Stubbs of the Brewers in 1992 at the new Comiskey Park. It had woodgrain pattern scuff marks from his bat, which I thought was cool! We kept it in nice shape for years until we finally played catch with it because we didn't care anymore.


The guy in the stands with a glove looks like he's older than 12, which means he has no business bringing a glove to a game. If I were you I would not claim to be that man as he clearly has no testicles.
 
2012-04-28 11:15:02 AM  
I'm sure these people are assholes, but little kids don't need to get everything they want nor shoudl the fact that the kid bursts into tears like a spoiled, uh, baby mean he should get the ball.
 
2012-04-28 11:17:46 AM  
I was at a jays game last year and alfredo griffin was the first base coach and I was in the second row beside first. He fielded a foul grounder and flipped into the crowd which I calmly stood up and barehanded. Kid in front of me was whining and I handed it over w/o thinking, instantly regretting it.

Some douche was offering his dad 50 bucks for the ball and I sincerely believe only the thought of getting smacked upside his head in front of his kids stopped him.

My reward? Kid mumbled the most half-assed thank you ever... Not even a smile.

/csb
 
2012-04-28 11:28:23 AM  
Oh shut the hell up. The only reason people are talking about this is because of the Yankees douche announcer. If he cares that much he can give his balls to the kid.
 
2012-04-28 11:35:22 AM  
Shut up kid! Your dad didn't die trying to get that ball for you!
 
2012-04-28 12:03:21 PM  

I Said: The people defending them seem to think the rest of us need a lesson in "not always getting what we want"

Well, the couple wants people to stop calling them assholes. Many of us still think they are assholes, and will refer to them as such when the topic comes up. Consider that a lesson in "not getting what they want"


The kid's parents were on the Today Show saying the couple were very nice people and didn't realize that the kid was upset. Said they offered him the ball when they found out he wanted it, but that, as his parents, they turned the offer down because they wanted him to learn that you dont always get what you want.

If the kid's parents have no problem with this couple, why would anyone else?
 
2012-04-28 12:06:36 PM  
This is why I hate baseball. This is the most exciting thing to happen so far this season.
 
2012-04-28 12:15:38 PM  

themeaningoflifeisnot: The kid's parents were on the Today Show saying the couple were very nice people and didn't realize that the kid was upset. Said they offered him the ball when they found out he wanted it, but that, as his parents, they turned the offer down because they wanted him to learn that you dont always get what you want.

If the kid's parents have no problem with this couple, why would anyone else?


Exactly. In order to still think the couple were d-bags, you have to ignore every bit of information that's come out about what happened and base 100 percent of your opinion on your conjecture and a 10-second video clip.

Then you have to project your own beliefs onto the clip, if you so much as watched it, saying that a guy who picked up the ball and was going to throw it back to the pitcher, then saw his pitcher already had the next ball from the ump, so he glanced at the crowd and threw it in as he was turning back away was CLEARLY aiming for someone that he missed by two seats and would've also been low even if he hit the right seat, to the point that his dad would've had to probably drop the kid.

A lot of outrage for a situation where a ball was thrown into the stands, the people it was thrown to caught it and celebrated, since they were happy already - it was the day before their wedding.

They DID offer the kid the ball (doing the "right" thing), just not in a 10-second window.

The kid's parents did the right thing by refusing it because you don't want your kid learning that he gets what he wants every time he cries.

The kid still ended up with a ball because the Rangers tossed him one later, and the kid is 3, so it's not like he knows the difference, to be honest.

Literally the only person who was a douche in the situation is the Yankees' announcer, for berating people in a position it's basically behind their back to an audience of millions.
 
2012-04-28 12:16:04 PM  
A) Kay is a douche, as has been pointed out. Not saying I want him to be on a bus that goes off the GW.......I'm saying that I hope he is on a bus that goes off the GW while sitting next to Suzy Waldman.

B) a little CSB - I took my kids to their first game to see the Sea Dogs in Portland, ME (Double A Red Sox team, and way more family friendly and monetarily accessible than trying to go to Fenway for their first ballgame). A foul ball came in our section and landed right behind me. All these kids come running to me, and their parents all start giving me death stares like I had better give one of the kids the ball. I made it immediately obvious I was keeping the ball for my 3 and 4 year olds, and everyone relaxed. But I was like - what if I don't give it to one of your rug rats? The ball came to me, not them - that's life kids.

/will be glad when this story's 15 minutes are up...
 
2012-04-28 12:17:55 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Ow My Balls: A visual CSB!

I'm the guy with the catcher's mitt. This is the closest I've ever come to getting a ball at a big league game during play. Very surreal...I was just watching the Mets bullpen, not expecting this at all even with Cabby up to bat. All of a sudden it's coming right at me. I could see the seams on the ball. No, the Mets' bullpen coach wouldn't give it to me...Booooooooo!!

My wife, on the other hand, got a batting practice foul ball hit from Franklyn Stubbs of the Brewers in 1992 at the new Comiskey Park. It had woodgrain pattern scuff marks from his bat, which I thought was cool! We kept it in nice shape for years until we finally played catch with it because we didn't care anymore.

The guy in the stands with a glove looks like he's older than 12, which means he has no business bringing a glove to a game. If I were you I would not claim to be that man as he clearly has no testicles.


Yeah, my friends poke fun at me too for always bringing it, but I don't care. I almost caught a Miguel Cabrera home run in spectacular fashion with it. Plus, it's the mitt I used 25 years ago to be an actual catcher myself, even if only high school. I've earned the right to bring it. You never know...They might need an emergency bullpen catcher! Some lucky guy in the audience got to play drums for The Who once when Keith Moon passed out, and with the the Tigers' track record of alcohol abuse...
 
2012-04-28 12:18:20 PM  

swankywanky: B) a little CSB - I took my kids to their first game to see the Sea Dogs in Portland, ME (Double A Red Sox team, and way more family friendly and monetarily accessible than trying to go to Fenway for their first ballgame). A foul ball came in our section and landed right behind me. All these kids come running to me, and their parents all start giving me death stares like I had better give one of the kids the ball. I made it immediately obvious I was keeping the ball for my 3 and 4 year olds, and everyone relaxed. But I was like - what if I don't give it to one of your rug rats? The ball came to me, not them - that's life kids.


Another thing you can do is toss it back up in the air and watch them beat each other up for it. Then a bunch of kids go back to their parents injured and crying and STILL without a baseball. And it's not really your fault - you just couldn't choose between all those kids!
 
2012-04-28 12:56:37 PM  
This couple should sue the Yankees for slander.

Way too much attacking of people today...and way too much lying from the media. Its bad enough they slandered George Zimmerman to the point that there is a bogus murder charge on him....now this couple has been wrongly attacked

Of course, dont forget the mostly-Liberal wankers on Fark who attack anyone that thinks a colon is not a reproductive organ

Even the couple with the crybaby 3 yr old said the couple offered to give the ball to the kid...but the parents refused because it would just help spoil their kid
 
2012-04-28 12:58:32 PM  

Ow My Balls: AdmirableSnackbar: Ow My Balls: A visual CSB!

I'm the guy with the catcher's mitt. This is the closest I've ever come to getting a ball at a big league game during play. Very surreal...I was just watching the Mets bullpen, not expecting this at all even with Cabby up to bat. All of a sudden it's coming right at me. I could see the seams on the ball. No, the Mets' bullpen coach wouldn't give it to me...Booooooooo!!

My wife, on the other hand, got a batting practice foul ball hit from Franklyn Stubbs of the Brewers in 1992 at the new Comiskey Park. It had woodgrain pattern scuff marks from his bat, which I thought was cool! We kept it in nice shape for years until we finally played catch with it because we didn't care anymore.

The guy in the stands with a glove looks like he's older than 12, which means he has no business bringing a glove to a game. If I were you I would not claim to be that man as he clearly has no testicles.

Yeah, my friends poke fun at me too for always bringing it, but I don't care. I almost caught a Miguel Cabrera home run in spectacular fashion with it. Plus, it's the mitt I used 25 years ago to be an actual catcher myself, even if only high school. I've earned the right to bring it. You never know...They might need an emergency bullpen catcher! Some lucky guy in the audience got to play drums for The Who once when Keith Moon passed out, and with the the Tigers' track record of alcohol abuse...


OK then. Good on your friends for giving you shiat about it. And (begrudging) respect for taking their shiat and not giving a shiat yourself.

/shiat.
 
2012-04-28 12:59:22 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: This couple should sue the Yankees for slander.

Way too much attacking of people today...and way too much lying from the media. Its bad enough they slandered George Zimmerman to the point that there is a bogus murder charge on him....now this couple has been wrongly attacked

Of course, dont forget the mostly-Liberal wankers on Fark who attack anyone that thinks a colon is not a reproductive organ

Even the couple with the crybaby 3 yr old said the couple offered to give the ball to the kid...but the parents refused because it would just help spoil their kid


Keep your politics out of my sports tab.
 
2012-04-28 01:17:55 PM  
I've been to hundreds of baseball games throughout my life and I've never caught a ball. I came VERY close when I was a vendor at Cinergy Field (Reds) in high school. I was walking through the stands when I heard the crack of the bat and all of the fans around me started making that "ooohhh" sound. Knowing that a ball was coming my way, I put my cooler over my head (selling Frosty Malts that day) and the ball smashed right off the cooler. That farking thing would've hit me in the head had I not covered up. I felt like a pu**y a little for covering up, but it was worth it to not get smoked.

/csb
//Michael Kay is a douche, that crying little shiat doesn't deserve the ball.
 
2012-04-28 01:22:55 PM  
i don't get it... its not like they psychically took the ball away from the kid like some have done in the past. just cause he is crying oh no those are horrible people for not giving the kid the ball. screw you media he shouldn't be shown that he can get whatever he wants. and calling them "awful people" media needs to stfu and get over it.

i remember a time when was younger and we went to a twins game at the ol metrodome back when they were lucky to have 5 thousand people show up for a game and during batting practice since we were up further in the section i decided to go up toward the wall to get a better chance at a ball. as soon as i moved up sure enough a ball was hit right at the spot where i was and my brother got the ball. did i cry till i got it no, disappointed yes but i didn't make a fool of myself by crying about it. the media should apologize to this couple for making them out to be like the biggest jerk in the world for their actions. this kind of thing is just getting beyond retarded.
 
2012-04-28 01:26:19 PM  
As far as keeping the ball, it. Looks like maybe they just got caught up in the moment and didn't see the kid's reaction. So... meh.

Being over the age of 12 and wearing a jersey, however, should be an automatic felony.
 
2012-04-28 01:37:18 PM  

themeaningoflifeisnot: I Said: The people defending them seem to think the rest of us need a lesson in "not always getting what we want"

Well, the couple wants people to stop calling them assholes. Many of us still think they are assholes, and will refer to them as such when the topic comes up. Consider that a lesson in "not getting what they want"

The kid's parents were on the Today Show saying the couple were very nice people and didn't realize that the kid was upset. Said they offered him the ball when they found out he wanted it, but that, as his parents, they turned the offer down because they wanted him to learn that you dont always get what you want.

If the kid's parents have no problem with this couple, why would anyone else?


I didn't watch the clip because I couldn't stomach the thought of 5 minutes of network TV morning show, but, yeah, it seems like the biggest narcissistic asshole in the story is Kay, who will learn nothing about shooting off his mouth before his brain is loaded.
 
2012-04-28 01:44:47 PM  

carrion_luggage: If I caught a foul ball the FIRST thing I would do is look around for a kid to give it to. I'm a grown man -- what the fark do I need with a foul ball?


I know a guy who goes to all the SC Gamecock baseball games with a glove and a ball in it. if/when a high foul goes behind his spot he stands up saying "I got it, I got it" mimics catching the ball and then gives it to any nearby young kid. Been doing it for years.
 
2012-04-28 02:38:32 PM  

T.rex: Personally, i think that kid over-reacted, both when he cried about not getting a ball, then smiling when he got the replacement ball from the usher.


He's three years old.
 
2012-04-28 03:33:49 PM  
I can't be the only one to have noticed the kid was crying BEFORE the ball even hit the ground, can I?

Frak the news and the announcers. That's some bullshiat, made up controversy if I've ever seen it.
 
2012-04-28 04:07:12 PM  

shoegaze99: It wasn't a foul ball, it was a ball thrown into the stands for the kid. They intercepted it. Bad on them.


Except of course it wasn't thrown to the kid. It was blindly tossed in to the crowd.
 
2012-04-28 04:10:25 PM  
My brother spent 35 years going to games without getting a ball. He took his 1-year old son to his first game in 2000 and got one from Joe Girardi during batting practice in exchange for getting the kid away from line drive fouls. Every time he took him and his younger son to a game after that he was given a ball for each of the kids. When he finally went to a game and didn't get any the kids freaked out, they thought they were supposed to automatically get a ball. He wound up buying some from the souvenir shop. He still has every one of those balls, many of them signed, in a display case in the living room.
 
2012-04-28 04:23:03 PM  

leevis: My brother spent 35 years going to games without getting a ball. He took his 1-year old son to his first game in 2000 and got one from Joe Girardi during batting practice in exchange for getting the kid away from line drive fouls. Every time he took him and his younger son to a game after that he was given a ball for each of the kids. When he finally went to a game and didn't get any the kids freaked out, they thought they were supposed to automatically get a ball. He wound up buying some from the souvenir shop. He still has every one of those balls, many of them signed, in a display case in the living room.


first thing i thought of when reading this.

4.bp.blogspot.com

and that is wrong with this generation. its a ll about the kids and the kids expecting them and them only to get stuff.
 
2012-04-28 05:29:09 PM  

Muta: What if I want give the ball to my son who is at home?
Your rules suck


Why did you go to a baseball game without your son?

You suck are parenting.
 
2012-04-28 06:00:01 PM  
Dear Sean Leonard and Shannon Moore,

The Yankees organization sincerely apologizes for comments made by one of our employees.

Please accept this lifetime ban from all Yankees games.

Signed,

The New York Yankees

P.S. Now get the fark outta here
 
2012-04-28 06:56:33 PM  

Ishkur: Why did you go to a baseball game without your son?

You suck are parenting.


I can think of a million reasons why a person might go to a game without his kid. For example, in a few months I have to go to LA for work for a couple weeks. While I'm there I'll take in a couple Dodger games. Does that make me a bad parent?
 
2012-04-28 08:19:22 PM  

Ishkur: Muta: What if I want give the ball to my son who is at home?
Your rules suck

Why did you go to a baseball game without your son?

You suck are parenting.


Maybe his son is at summer camp. Maybe his son is sick and mom is taking care of him. Maybe he has a one-year-old and has a babysitter because there's no damn reason to have a kid that young at a ballpark. Maybe it's an office outing. I mean, really, do you have an imagination THAT limited?
 
2012-04-28 08:47:43 PM  

IAmRight: Ishkur: Muta: What if I want give the ball to my son who is at home?
Your rules suck

Why did you go to a baseball game without your son?

You suck are parenting.

Maybe his son is at summer camp. Maybe his son is sick and mom is taking care of him. Maybe he has a one-year-old and has a babysitter because there's no damn reason to have a kid that young at a ballpark. Maybe it's an office outing. I mean, really, do you have an imagination THAT limited?


Maybe they just want one damn night out with each other without having to herd their children in a giant crowd and maybe have just a freakin beer while they watch the game. Or something like that. Parents are allowed to do fun things without their children.
 
2012-04-29 12:06:44 AM  

Ishkur: Once again, from the thread yesterday, if you are over the age of 18, THESE ARE THE OFFICIAL RULES FOR CATCHING A STRAY BALL/PUCK/WHATEVER:

1) Stand up, hold the ball/puck above your head and show everyone around you; feel proud for two seconds
2) Find the nearest set of eyes younger than eight looking at you full of depression and misery
3) Give them the god damn ball.

ONLY ONE EXCEPTION: If its a record-breaking homerun ball. In which case, yeah, keep that shiat.


It's FARKED UP that you have to tell people this. It's not common sense?

/I've caught a few- only have one, and that's because there was NO ONE within 50 seats of us when I caught it.
 
2012-04-29 01:01:48 AM  
that kid's a pussy. And shouldn't the Rangers be a little hesitant about throwing balls up into the stands? Josh Hamilton killed a guy.
 
2012-04-29 05:58:30 AM  
/CSB

Back a few years ago, I went to a Dodgers / Mets game in LA with my buddies. Sat in the left field pavilion and got there early enough to catch the end of Mets BP. Just sat down with my nachos and everyone starts telling "heads up." I look up and see a ball Todd Pratt launched coming right at me. Stuck my hand up and barehanded that thing, damn it stung something fierce. 12-13 year old kid with his glove right behind me got all huffy after he closed his glove over my hand with the ball in it. Usher saw the whole thing and told the kid to take a hike, even got someone with a bag of ice for my hand. Been to over a hundred games, only one that's ever come close, it's on a little stand on my desk at this moment.
 
2012-04-29 12:18:13 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Ishkur: Once again, from the thread yesterday, if you are over the age of 18, THESE ARE THE OFFICIAL RULES FOR CATCHING A STRAY BALL/PUCK/WHATEVER:

1) Stand up, hold the ball/puck above your head and show everyone around you; feel proud for two seconds
2) Find the nearest set of eyes younger than eight looking at you full of depression and misery
3) Give them the god damn ball.

ONLY ONE EXCEPTION: If its a record-breaking homerun ball. In which case, yeah, keep that shiat.

It's FARKED UP that you have to tell people this. It's not common sense?

/I've caught a few- only have one, and that's because there was NO ONE within 50 seats of us when I caught it.


So there were no children in the city in which the game was played? None at all to give the ball to? You're a worthless human being for keeping that ball, it belongs to the children.

/Nice point you have there, does it come without the asshat?
 
2012-04-29 11:14:26 PM  
A pitching coach at an Angels game tossed once me a ball. Dunno why, but when I caught it I instantly handed it to the four-year-old kid sitting next to me--my son.

/Easiest decision of my life
//I know, I know, not the same
 
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