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2012-04-27 10:11:44 PM
Ishkur: Once again, from the thread yesterday, if you are over the age of 18, THESE ARE THE OFFICIAL RULES FOR CATCHING A STRAY BALL/PUCK/WHATEVER:

1) Stand up, hold the ball/puck above your head and show everyone around you; feel proud for two seconds
2) Find the nearest set of eyes younger than eight looking at you full of depression and misery
3) Give them the god damn ball.

ONLY ONE EXCEPTION: If its a record-breaking homerun ball. In which case, yeah, keep that shiat.


Finally, someone who isn't a dick with a thoughtful, good post in this thread.

100% agreed.
 
2012-04-27 10:12:05 PM
Sean Leonard is to Steve Bartman as young Cameron is to Moises Alou.
 
2012-04-27 10:38:19 PM
AdmirableSnackbar: If it's got the player's number on the ball, that's how you know it's meant for the girl. If not, it's going to a kid.

I know there's a lot of time to kill in baseball and he PROBABLY wouldn't have missed the next pitch if he stopped to write a number on the ball...but that seems excessive.
 
2012-04-27 10:42:49 PM
Soonerpsycho: That was bad, but not as bad as this.

I remember seeing that video awhile ago. Was there ever any follow up? Like did that chick get publicly humiliated aside from the video being passed around? Please tell me there was copious amounts of shaming that took place.
 
2012-04-27 10:45:07 PM
IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: If it's got the player's number on the ball, that's how you know it's meant for the girl. If not, it's going to a kid.

I know there's a lot of time to kill in baseball and he PROBABLY wouldn't have missed the next pitch if he stopped to write a number on the ball...but that seems excessive.


As I understand it, this actually happens fairly often. There's a lot of time to kill in the dugout when your team is batting and even more for relief pitchers.
 
2012-04-27 10:49:21 PM
The My Little Pony Killer: There are an awful lot of Farkers who seem bitter that they never got to catch a baseball as children.

You don't get everything you want just because you're young and at a game. Deal with it.


One of my few CSBs... I caught a foul ball at my very first MLB game. Jays v. Twins, summer of 1988. I was 10 years old. Hit by Kelly Gruber, caught it on the fly. Got it autographed the next day. It sits in a case on my desk to this day. I've been a Jays fan ever since.

I've probably been to 100 or more MLB games since then and not come close to catching another one. But the very next one I do goes to the youngest kid sitting near me.
 
2012-04-27 10:54:58 PM
I've caught two, first was a HR that I still have, second was a foul ball that I gave to some kid. I go to a lot of games.
 
2012-04-27 10:55:28 PM
Pontious Pilates: The My Little Pony Killer: There are an awful lot of Farkers who seem bitter that they never got to catch a baseball as children.

You don't get everything you want just because you're young and at a game. Deal with it.

One of my few CSBs... I caught a foul ball at my very first MLB game. Jays v. Twins, summer of 1988. I was 10 years old. Hit by Kelly Gruber, caught it on the fly. Got it autographed the next day. It sits in a case on my desk to this day. I've been a Jays fan ever since.

I've probably been to 100 or more MLB games since then and not come close to catching another one. But the very next one I do goes to the youngest kid sitting near me.


I was at a Giants/Cardinals game in St. Louis when I was 8 or so, so probably the same year, 1988. In batting practice, Will Clark hit a foul right towards me - I was in perfect foul ball territory down the third base line, standing right along the fence trying to get autographs from the Giants' bullpen. I reached over the fence to grab the ball and some prick elbows me out of the way and fields it, turns to his two daughters and asks them who should get it. They say that everyone in the family already has one so they'll just give it to mom so she can have another one. I'm still kicking myself that I didn't cockpunch that asshole, and I too have never come close to catching a ball, even in BP.
 
2012-04-27 10:55:31 PM
AdmirableSnackbar: As I understand it, this actually happens fairly often. There's a lot of time to kill in the dugout when your team is batting and even more for relief pitchers.

It was a foul ball that rolled to the first baseman, but the umpire had already thrown the pitcher a new ball, so he threw it into the stands real quick before going back to the field. It didn't seem to be intended for anyone (and if it was intended for the kid, like I said in the other thread, I guess we can see why he's a first baseman and not at a position where he's expected to throw, because it wasn't close.)
 
2012-04-27 10:59:47 PM
IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: As I understand it, this actually happens fairly often. There's a lot of time to kill in the dugout when your team is batting and even more for relief pitchers.

It was a foul ball that rolled to the first baseman, but the umpire had already thrown the pitcher a new ball, so he threw it into the stands real quick before going back to the field. It didn't seem to be intended for anyone (and if it was intended for the kid, like I said in the other thread, I guess we can see why he's a first baseman and not at a position where he's expected to throw, because it wasn't close.)


Right, I'm just speaking in generalities. When it's this situation (spur of the moment, no phone number on the ball), the ball is going to a kid. An adult shouldn't even want it since it's thrown into the stands and not batted directly into the crowd.
 
2012-04-27 11:04:04 PM
IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: As I understand it, this actually happens fairly often. There's a lot of time to kill in the dugout when your team is batting and even more for relief pitchers.

It was a foul ball that rolled to the first baseman, but the umpire had already thrown the pitcher a new ball, so he threw it into the stands real quick before going back to the field. It didn't seem to be intended for anyone (and if it was intended for the kid, like I said in the other thread, I guess we can see why he's a first baseman and not at a position where he's expected to throw, because it wasn't close.)


Yeah, the kid's 3. Baseball players arent the smartest bunch but I'm sure most realize that a 3 year old isn't able to catch a ball like that. He was simply throwing it randomly into the stands. I can't believe how big this story got.

Michael Kay is a douche.
 
2012-04-27 11:14:01 PM
AdmirableSnackbar: Pontious Pilates: The My Little Pony Killer: There are an awful lot of Farkers who seem bitter that they never got to catch a baseball as children.

You don't get everything you want just because you're young and at a game. Deal with it.

One of my few CSBs... I caught a foul ball at my very first MLB game. Jays v. Twins, summer of 1988. I was 10 years old. Hit by Kelly Gruber, caught it on the fly. Got it autographed the next day. It sits in a case on my desk to this day. I've been a Jays fan ever since.

I've probably been to 100 or more MLB games since then and not come close to catching another one. But the very next one I do goes to the youngest kid sitting near me.

I was at a Giants/Cardinals game in St. Louis when I was 8 or so, so probably the same year, 1988. In batting practice, Will Clark hit a foul right towards me - I was in perfect foul ball territory down the third base line, standing right along the fence trying to get autographs from the Giants' bullpen. I reached over the fence to grab the ball and some prick elbows me out of the way and fields it, turns to his two daughters and asks them who should get it. They say that everyone in the family already has one so they'll just give it to mom so she can have another one. I'm still kicking myself that I didn't cockpunch that asshole, and I too have never come close to catching a ball, even in BP.


I went to a Phillies game at the Vet in 1988 (8 years old) with my best friend. His dad was in the navy, so we somehow had box seats waaaay up behind home plate. As the game went on, my stupid friend kept getting more and more agitated that he hadn't caught a foul ball yet three stories up directly behind home plate. I was smart enough to know that was nearly impossible, and I didn't get the big deal anyway.
 
2012-04-27 11:16:41 PM
The people defending them seem to think the rest of us need a lesson in "not always getting what we want"

Well, the couple wants people to stop calling them assholes. Many of us still think they are assholes, and will refer to them as such when the topic comes up. Consider that a lesson in "not getting what they want"
 
2012-04-27 11:19:38 PM
I Said: Well, the couple wants people to stop calling them assholes. Many of us still think they are assholes, and will refer to them as such when the topic comes up. Consider that a lesson in "not getting what they want"

You will continue to ignore the fact that they did, in fact, try to give the ball to the kid, albeit not within the 10 seconds the camera was on them, of course, just so you can justify your completely inaccurate feelings that they're assholes.
 
2012-04-27 11:24:22 PM
AdmirableSnackbar: I was at a Giants/Cardinals game in St. Louis when I was 8 or so, so probably the same year, 1988. In batting practice, Will Clark hit a foul right towards me - I was in perfect foul ball territory down the third base line, standing right along the fence trying to get autographs from the Giants' bullpen. I reached over the fence to grab the ball and some prick elbows me out of the way and fields it, turns to his two daughters and asks them who should get it. They say that everyone in the family already has one so they'll just give it to mom so she can have another one. I'm still kicking myself that I didn't cockpunch that asshole, and I too have never come close to catching a ball, even in BP.

Took in an Orioles double-header with some friends back in high school, sitting in the left field bleachers. Someone on the A's (don't remember who) smokes a home run right at us, and everyone in the section stands up to go for the ball except for one kid (maybe 10-12ish) sitting two rows down directly in front of us, who goes into the fetal position in his seat. Ball comes down and we all lose it, everyone's looking around trying to find it for a few seconds, then the kid jumps up with the ball.

When he ducked, he'd been holding the 2-quart pitcher that they'd given away at the gates in his right hand. Somehow as the ball came down it went directly into the pitcher and stayed put; don't know if it glanced off someone else's hand first or not. Closest I ever came to getting a ball at a game, but it was way cooler the way it turned out.

/Kid was wearing an ear-to-ear grin for the rest of the day.
 
2012-04-27 11:46:21 PM
The kid wasn't going for the ball. The ball never hit the kid. Why, just because the kid is crying, does he deserve the ball? I'm sure that outside of the camera shot, there were several other kids around there that wanted the ball, should be give them all balls?
The announcer is a douce.
 
2012-04-27 11:51:08 PM
The worst thing they could've done was reinforce the kid's crying by giving him the ball.

/(didn't see the play, don't know if they ripped it from him or if he was just one seat too far away...Guessing the latter?)
 
2012-04-28 12:00:52 AM
Soonerpsycho: That was bad, but not as bad as this.

Good grief, you weren't kidding. Glad that wasn't my wife/girlfriend/whatever, I would have been disgusted.
 
2012-04-28 12:19:40 AM
If you give a kid a ball this is what they will do with it anyway. Keep it so somebody can enjoy it.


But seriously, why are we arguing when it's pretty clear that:
1) you should give a foul ball to a kid if possible.
2) You should teach your kid to be grateful when receiving said ball.
3) You should teach your kid not to expect a ball.
4) You shouldn't go on television asking for an apology.
5) You shouldn't watch the YES network.
 
2012-04-28 12:30:17 AM
Why is everyone siding with a whiny, entitled brat?

Because it's at a baseball game.

In no other situation would Farkers be saying anything other than "pre-emptive sterilization should have rid the world of that rotten crotchfruit" or something like that.
 
2012-04-28 12:30:49 AM
I Said: The people defending them seem to think the rest of us need a lesson in "not always getting what we want"

I see the folks making this argument and those who add or insinuate that anything other than that is giving them whatever they want and spoiling them for life and I ask myself if it is really that hard to take a stance somewhere in-between?

/welcome to fark, etc.
 
2012-04-28 12:38:23 AM
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: As I understand it, this actually happens fairly often. There's a lot of time to kill in the dugout when your team is batting and even more for relief pitchers.

It was a foul ball that rolled to the first baseman, but the umpire had already thrown the pitcher a new ball, so he threw it into the stands real quick before going back to the field. It didn't seem to be intended for anyone (and if it was intended for the kid, like I said in the other thread, I guess we can see why he's a first baseman and not at a position where he's expected to throw, because it wasn't close.)

Yeah, the kid's 3. Baseball players arent the smartest bunch but I'm sure most realize that a 3 year old isn't able to catch a ball like that. He was simply throwing it randomly into the stands. I can't believe how big this story got.

Michael Kay is a douche.



QFT.
 
2012-04-28 12:38:26 AM
Only time I caught a foul ball was at a minor league game and there were no kids around, or really anyone else in the vicinity. Ball popped backwards over the fence behind home plate, bounced off the press box, and I ended up catching it between my feet, which I had propped on the seat in front of me. I decided to hang on to it simply because my eye hand coordination is bad enough, I still can't believe I actually caught it with my feet.
 
2012-04-28 12:53:07 AM
Hell... what was it ...the eighth inning?

The kid had probably been crying since daddy turned off the cartoon DVD in the minivan when they got to the game.

The couple probably didn't notice that the kid was crying any harder than it had been for hours. Good for them, they managed to tune out the background noise.
 
2012-04-28 01:05:52 AM
Cheesus: Still not getting the outrage over this.

People just want to get angry at shiat. People have frustration built up over a whole lot of stuff right now and a lot of the things they're upset about is really abstract and confusing. So they really farking riled up over a rather minor incident in the stands at a baseball game.
 
2012-04-28 01:33:11 AM
Soonerpsycho: That was bad, but not as bad as this.

What ever happened to that chick? The internet was worked into a tizzy like rarely seen over that one. 4chan had her labeled as public enemy #1 for a few days.
 
2012-04-28 02:01:28 AM
4NSpy: I didn't have any problem with what they did with the ball (see Finders v. Keepers) but demanding an apology is going too far.

Next thing Pizza Tossing Guy will want an apology from Remy and Orsillo


I think the announcer went too far.
 
2012-04-28 03:06:19 AM
The local sports radio station has dubbed him "Captain Cialis". I snorted Dr Pepper out my nose when I heard that.
 
2012-04-28 03:10:07 AM
Soonerpsycho: That was bad, but not as bad as this.

Wow. That's from a movie or something, right?
 
2012-04-28 03:31:30 AM
fark everyone with kids who think their spawn deserves the ball. If the guy caught it, it's his. Just because someone has a child in the vacinity does not mean said crotchfruit deserves the ball.
 
2012-04-28 04:20:45 AM
Ya know what?

I find people who think that you should give a crying kid ANYTHING because he was crying obnoxious and annoying.

Now, I have no need for a baseball. I am sure that I will duck to get out of the way unless its heading for my wife. However, every game I attend I note which kids around me are spolied pains in the ass and which ones are polite, just in CASE there is a ball in my hands at some point of the game.

You can bet the spoiled kid that cries when he doesent get his way was whining and demanding the whole game.

That said, Micheal Kay should be ASHAMED for calling these people out on TV. Giving a ball to a kid may be nice, but it is certainly not HORRIBLE to keep it for yourself.
 
2012-04-28 04:27:37 AM
IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: If it's got the player's number on the ball, that's how you know it's meant for the girl. If not, it's going to a kid.

I know there's a lot of time to kill in baseball and he PROBABLY wouldn't have missed the next pitch if he stopped to write a number on the ball...but that seems excessive.


About six years ago, I saw a big name closer toss a signed ball with "take off your top" on it to a girl in the stands at wrigley. Alas, she did not.

Theres a great CSB there that explains the joke, but I will spare you. The point is they do leave messages on the balls.
 
2012-04-28 04:28:18 AM
Step 1: You catch the ball
Step 2: Kid cries his eyes out
Step 3: You give the kid the ball
Step 4A: Kid's dad sells ball on eBay, spends profit on hookers.
Step 4B: Kid takes ball to school, trades it for half-bent Pokemon cards.
 
2012-04-28 04:55:24 AM
I never caught a foul ball as a kid. If I did, I imagine I would cherish it and the memory still.

The memory of the random guy near me catching and then handing it to me afterward? Nope.
 
2012-04-28 05:43:02 AM
The_Sponge: Fact: All guys named Cameron are assholes.

/So I have no problem with him not getting the ball.


And I LOL'd. No, the little bawling brat should not get the ball. His parents however should probably take a parenting class to teach their son not to be such a...um....Texan.
 
2012-04-28 05:46:20 AM
10up: fark that kid. What inning was it? That awful couple probably had to turn on the ignoroshields from having the great luck of paying for tickets next to that brat for the entire game.

I actually WOULD have rubbed it in his face, and I'm not even the biggest asshole at most baseball games.


You're right; you're a run of the mill douche.
 
2012-04-28 05:57:42 AM
Captain Steroid: The kid got a ball later on and is doing fine. Michael Kay was just being an a**hole 'cause his sacred team was losing to the Rangers.

The Yanks could have been ten up... that reaction was pure Michael Kay.
 
2012-04-28 07:17:38 AM
I was booed at Wrigley Field in 1995. Marquis Grissom, then of the Atlanta Braves, lined a ball foul into the second deck, right at me, sitting in the front row. I thought it'd be an easy catch, but it turned out that it was moving a LOT faster than I thought. Hit me right in the hand (the other had a beer in it), bent my fingers back, and wound up falling back onto the fans below me. The crowd booed my bad hands.

And they were right to. The Baseball Gods have noticed, and there hasn't been a baseball hit anywhere near me in 17 years.

/suck it up, kid.
 
2012-04-28 07:39:08 AM
The My Little Pony Killer: There are an awful lot of Farkers who seem bitter that they never got to catch a baseball as children.

You don't get everything you want just because you're young and at a game. Deal with it.


Yesterday, on The Today show, that is pretty much what this kid's parents said.
 
2012-04-28 07:57:47 AM
Ball goes to kid. Anything else is just bullshiat.
 
2012-04-28 08:06:46 AM

fta

"He's three and we're kind of at that stage where he thinks he gets everything and anything," his mom explained.


Sadly it seems many farkers and one dumba-- sports announcer are stuck at the same stage.



// walmart parents.
 
2012-04-28 08:07:49 AM
Can't we just say everyone is a douche in this story?
 
2012-04-28 08:14:15 AM
Why can't his parents just purchase the kid a ball in a store? That would as much sense since he didn't catch it.

---

WC in Soccer was fun in USA when spectators thought they got to keep the ball kicked into the stands. :P
 
2012-04-28 08:15:45 AM
10up: fark that kid. What inning was it? That awful couple probably had to turn on the ignoroshields from having the great luck of paying for tickets next to that brat for the entire game.

I actually WOULD have rubbed it in his face, and I'm not even the biggest asshole at most baseball games.


Don't sell yourself short.
 
2012-04-28 08:42:05 AM
Reminds me of another event from last year.

Did anyone ever figure out who this evil woman was? There was not enough outrage about this one. She clearly grabbed the ball from the little girl's hands.
 
2012-04-28 08:47:33 AM
Ishkur: 2) Find the nearest set of eyes younger than eight looking at you full of depression and misery
3) Give them the god damn ball.


What if I want give the ball to my son who is at home?

Your rules suck
 
2012-04-28 08:56:23 AM
If I caught a foul ball the FIRST thing I would do is look around for a kid to give it to. I'm a grown man -- what the fark do I need with a foul ball?
 
2012-04-28 09:02:19 AM
Muta: Ishkur: 2) Find the nearest set of eyes younger than eight looking at you full of depression and misery
3) Give them the god damn ball.

What if I want give the ball to my son who is at home?

Your rules suck


Yeah, don't know which popular, dipshiat talking head decided suddenly that it's a "rule" to give a ball to a kid, but plenty of dumb farkers have bought into that. If kids getting balls is so important, why isn't it the players/stadium's job to hand them out before/after the game? They have dozens; pass them all out at the end of the game if catching the ball doesn't matter. And while you're at it, hand over your jerseys, and hats. You know, for the kids.

/If I don't catch a foul ball, do I have to give the kid or his parents money from my wallet?
//If the kid wants popcorn or my hot dog, do I have to hand it over?
///Idiots
 
2012-04-28 09:02:21 AM
The Onanist: I've been going to baseball games for 40 years or so and I haven't caught a FB yet.

It wasn't a foul ball, it was a ball thrown into the stands for the kid. They intercepted it. Bad on them.

If it's a foul ball, you catch it and it's yours. No unwritten rule about handing those off. The catch wins the ball. But when a player does the ol' trot to the stands and toss a ball in routine, it's probably going to a kid. That was obviously the case here. If you accidentally intercept it, you give it to the kid. Always.

Not that I expect Fark kid-hate parade to understand that.
 
2012-04-28 09:02:59 AM
Mr_H: Dead for Tax Reasons: life aint fair, kid. get used to it

That's apparently what the parents said too.


This has to be a first for FARK. A story about reasonable, down-to-earth parents teaching their child a valuable life lesson...inconceivable!!

On another note, last night's Red Sox/White Sox game had several instances of bats flying out of batters hands because it was really cold in Chicago, and I noticed the guy who caught one of the bats in the stands give it to a little kid sitting a few seats down from him. Thought it was cool.
 
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