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2012-04-27 04:49:13 PM  

you have pee hands: fracto73: I would replace the last two with:
-Kid stands his ground
-Zimm stands his ground

Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law. I think the same would be true if Martin had beaten Zimmerman to death instead. Morally I think his poor judgement led to a dead kid, but in court the law is what matters.

I agree with this and I think it's the strangest thing. How can you have a law that basically boils down to "whoever shoots first wins" legally?

Florida.



I believe a law like this makes dueling to the death legal.
 
2012-04-27 04:50:39 PM  

keithgabryelski: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

yeah, because this is a liberal vs. conservative issue


Everything is liberals vs conservatives for conservatives. "IF YOU'RE NOT WITH US, THEN YOU'RE AGAINST US!!", and related idiocy. Voicing disagreement to a conservative gets you immediately branded a liberal no matter what your political views (or lack thereof). And conservatives have to stand against anything they deem liberal, no matter how stupid or harmful or contrarian they're being.
 
2012-04-27 04:50:56 PM  

durbnpoisn: Until today, I didn't realize that bail was set based on how much a defendant had. I thought it was based on how bad the crime was, and what their risk of skipping bail were.

So, if he has a lot of money, his bail should be higher?! Why the fark is that?!
The idea that someone might simply skip bail because they are loaded is totally absurd. Where will they go? What will they do? How will they get access to all that money?

There is something seriously stupid about this.

In fact, there is something seriously stupid about this entire situation. There is FAR more to this story than we know.


You're right, there is something seriously stupid about this, but I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
 
2012-04-27 04:51:19 PM  
tundratabloids.com

This fella recently recommended that the prosecutor in the case go ahead and retain legal council. Dershowitz claims that she pretty blatantly suborned perjury already and has acted otherwise unethically. He went on to say that this is going to trial solely based on politics. The governor had political (mob) pressure on his back so he had to find a pawn (moron) to take the heat off. So he found this lying crazy biatch.

"This affidavit submitted by the prosecutor in the Florida case is a crime," Dershowitz said. "It's a crime."


"If I were this prosecutor, I'd be hiring a lawyer at this point,"

Yay American justice system! USA USA USA
 
2012-04-27 04:52:19 PM  

dittybopper: That's all well and good.

Now imagine you are Joe Schmuck, and you don't have access to all that. You don't have the connections. You don't know who to call. You'll end up paying through the nose.



About 75% of my clients, the bread and butter if you will, are "Joe Schmucks". They're paper pushers for the government, military and private industry who are being sent here on short term assignments of 1 - 6 months. That and a sprinkling of people renovating their homes. We also have a whole division devoted to folks whose homes have been wiped out by floods and fires and such. You don't need connections, you just have to find my website - and I'm a subsidiary of one of the largest international companies in the world... we don't make it hard to find us.

Do a Google search for "furnished apartments". I'm not telling which one, but I'm one of the links you see on your first screen. That's how hard it is to find us. We pay teams of people to drum up business. That's how most folks find my company these days, actually.

And every other link on your screen is probably cheaper than mine. I just have the nicest apartments and the best customer service.
 
2012-04-27 04:52:29 PM  
ballershit.com

He should have been more honest like this guy.
 
2012-04-27 04:52:33 PM  

Great Odins Raven: Can't wait to watch the homies and nappy headed ho's burn their own neighborhoods because they are angry at whitey when this latino with african ancestry walks.


Toronto? They make your kind up there? Pity.
 
2012-04-27 04:53:11 PM  

beta_plus: Mrtraveler01: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

Yawn.

Wake us up when you have better material. ;)

I'm sorry that your so butthurt that you're not going to get to send an innocent man to the electric chair.


I'm sorry you can't tell the difference between butthurt and plain mocking and ridicule.

It's ok...you'll learn eventually. ;)
 
2012-04-27 04:53:23 PM  
That's a lot of skittles.
 
2012-04-27 04:54:09 PM  
ZimmermanPAC

"Lets take our county back"
 
2012-04-27 04:54:30 PM  

beta_plus: Mrtraveler01: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

Yawn.

Wake us up when you have better material. ;)

I'm sorry that your so butthurt that you're not going to get to send an innocent man to the electric chair.


Oh come off of it. You sleaze ball Republicans never batted a bloody eyelash when conservative Texas and governor of Yeehaw Junction Rick Perry executed Barry Scheck and many other questionable suspects. You only care about one-upping liberals, you disingenuous shill.
 
2012-04-27 04:54:37 PM  
ComicBookGuy: ocelot: I can't wait until this guy walks and the media turns into a puddle of WTF.

Hmmm...if I were a Korean storeowner in downtown Negropolia, I think I would be closed on the day the verdict was announced (but inside my store with numerous shotguns loaded with all kinds of interesting ammo, and armored, and my lawyer on speed dial).


I'd be at my house in Whiteburbia lighting my cigar with a $100 bill knowing that I increased my insurance to like 90 brazillion dollars the day before.
 
2012-04-27 04:54:53 PM  

you have pee hands: fracto73: I would replace the last two with:
-Kid stands his ground
-Zimm stands his ground

Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law. I think the same would be true if Martin had beaten Zimmerman to death instead. Morally I think his poor judgement led to a dead kid, but in court the law is what matters.

I agree with this and I think it's the strangest thing. How can you have a law that basically boils down to "whoever shoots first wins" legally?

Florida.


It's not even so much "Who shoots first" it's "whoever's still standing when the cops get there". Ultimately, this case comes down to whatever Zimmerman says happened in the last critical seconds before Martin died, because EVERYTHING ELSE is irrelevant under the Stand Your Ground law. And it would have been the same if Zimmerman had been the one lying there dead from a fractured skull and Martin had been the one to say "I had to defend myself."
 
2012-04-27 04:55:10 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: meathome: DROxINxTHExWIND: Weaver95: dittybopper: he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).

I don't know about living arrangements...but yeah, security is something I can see being a primary concern for Zimmerman. that's expensive to set up and he's gonna need someone watching his back if he plans on living through the trial. lot of people wouldn't mind seeing him fall down some stairs and onto a couple of bullets. so spending $50k on security guards and/or alarm systems and body armor wouldn't be out of the question.


Jesus, is there anything this guy does that you all can't find an explanation for?

Have you ever tried to do the stuff (on short notice, no less) related to dittybopper's comment?

It's not cheap. Seriously, look it up.

Now if that's what he's spending it on (reasonable assumption), then I'll press the "I believe" button on the expenses. If not, then yeah, totally ridiculous.

If his lawyer is smart, he's making sure that every penny is accounted for in a ledger so that if there's ever a question regarding it, it can be explained.

/can't believe he's got 200K in donations

You all are TOTALLY missing the point of my question. It could be that Zimmerman has a very legitimate reason for not disclosing the funds at his bond hearing. It could be that he has treated the donations like a responsible employee would treat his expense account, watching costs, spending only whats necessary, and keeping his documentation. This could ALL be on the up and up. But you mutherfarkers don't know that. Yet, here you all are with a thousand explanatio ...


You seem to be a fairly reasonable guy. If you find the time, read this very well written article by Reuters that delves into Zimmerman's past. I think that it is actually quite neutral on the situation and it sheds some light on what may have been in Zimmerman's mind on that night that drove his "prejudices."

Reuters on Zimmerman (Pops)
 
2012-04-27 04:55:11 PM  

torr5962: He was near his car during the fight--how could he have continue to pursue yet still be near his car?


By "near his car" you mean "not within sight of his car, in someones back yard".

Mishno: And that's what the prosecuting attorney needs to convince the jury of, not you or me or a bunch of mouth-breathing vigilante types. It works both ways.


Sorry, asshole, but all I've ever asked for is a real investigation and a trial, as opposed to John Doe Cop saying "I don't feel like working this case, and I know his dad, so lets just let him go".

Asking for a trial when you have a dead body and an confession from the guy holding the smoking gun doesn't make me a "mouth breathing vigilante", so go fark yourself.
 
2012-04-27 04:55:36 PM  

beta_plus: Like defending themselves and the ones they love.


"The ones they love" put it over the top.

/amused
 
2012-04-27 04:56:10 PM  

keithgabryelski: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

yeah, because this is a liberal vs. conservative issue


Keep trying to make excuses. It only makes things worse. You libs have royally screwed up. The best thing that you could have done was to quietly apologize (a mealy mouthed non-apology would have sufficed) and let the issue go as soon as Zimmerman's photo was released. But you just couldn't help yourselves.

Instead, you've permanently crippled the race card (it was only tolerated as long as it was used on actual white people) and made the 2nd Amendment stronger.

Now you're holding onto a technicality with no knowledge of Zimmerman's real costs, desperately hoping to gain back lost ground that is lost forever.
 
2012-04-27 04:56:42 PM  

KidneyStone: This needs repeating:

[gnostalgia.files.wordpress.com image 640x433]


She looks easy.

/easy
 
2012-04-27 04:57:48 PM  

beta_plus: keithgabryelski: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

yeah, because this is a liberal vs. conservative issue

Keep trying to make excuses. It only makes things worse. You libs have royally screwed up. The best thing that you could have done was to quietly apologize (a mealy mouthed non-apology would have sufficed) and let the issue go as soon as Zimmerman's photo was released. But you just couldn't help yourselves.

Instead, you've permanently crippled the race card (it was only tolerated as long as it was used on actual white people) and made the 2nd Amendment stronger.

Now you're holding onto a technicality with no knowledge of Zimmerman's real costs, desperately hoping to gain back lost ground that is lost forever.


t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-04-27 04:58:52 PM  

keithgabryelski: All_Farked_Up: ocelot: I can't wait until this guy walks and the media turns into a puddle of WTF.

After the riots he'll be tried again and convicted. Just like the Rodney King case.

I love this presumption that a riot must happen because a black kid was involved.

The original reports that race had something to do with this died out when the recording that was reported as "coon" was revealed to be some other word (cold?).

The million hoodie march was peaceful, even at the height of this whole mess when a racial component was considered a primary motivation.

now, what do we have?

Martin's side is not pushing a racial tone.

But Zimmerman fans are certainly keeping it alive.


They are praying for riots. They think it will scare white people and hurt Obama in the election.
 
2012-04-27 04:58:55 PM  

beta_plus: keithgabryelski: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

yeah, because this is a liberal vs. conservative issue

Keep trying to make excuses. It only makes things worse. You libs have royally screwed up. The best thing that you could have done was to quietly apologize (a mealy mouthed non-apology would have sufficed) and let the issue go as soon as Zimmerman's photo was released. But you just couldn't help yourselves.

Instead, you've permanently crippled the race card (it was only tolerated as long as it was used on actual white people) and made the 2nd Amendment stronger.

Now you're holding onto a technicality with no knowledge of Zimmerman's real costs, desperately hoping to gain back lost ground that is lost forever.


images.nonexiste.net
 
2012-04-27 04:59:22 PM  
I wonder if Zimmerman had the foresight to set up a trust account and a charity so this these donations are counted as 'income'. If he isn't prosecuted for murder he can probably be thrown in jail for tax fraud if he isn't careful.
 
2012-04-27 04:59:40 PM  

fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.


Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.
 
2012-04-27 04:59:50 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: beta_plus: Like defending themselves and the ones they love.

"The ones they love" put it over the top.

/amused


I wonder why he might worry about that:

files.abovetopsecret.com

nothing to see here citizen - you shouldn't be able to defend yourself or anyone else or you're just a racist thug.
 
2012-04-27 05:00:02 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: KidneyStone: This needs repeating:

[gnostalgia.files.wordpress.com image 640x433]

She looks easy.

/easy


Easy on the eyes maybe. Rrrrrrrrroowwwwwrrrrrrrrr!

Chicks like that are the ONE thing I miss about Floriduh.
 
2012-04-27 05:00:23 PM  

Gyrfalcon: you have pee hands: fracto73: I would replace the last two with:
-Kid stands his ground
-Zimm stands his ground

Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law. I think the same would be true if Martin had beaten Zimmerman to death instead. Morally I think his poor judgement led to a dead kid, but in court the law is what matters.

I agree with this and I think it's the strangest thing. How can you have a law that basically boils down to "whoever shoots first wins" legally?

Florida.

It's not even so much "Who shoots first" it's "whoever's still standing when the cops get there". Ultimately, this case comes down to whatever Zimmerman says happened in the last critical seconds before Martin died, because EVERYTHING ELSE is irrelevant under the Stand Your Ground law. And it would have been the same if Zimmerman had been the one lying there dead from a fractured skull and Martin had been the one to say "I had to defend myself."



Exactly. Personally I think stand your ground should only apply inside a private home. Without a restriction like that there is far too much incentive to shoot first.

/note, without a stand your ground law it is still acceptable to shoot bad guys if you can't get out of the situation.
 
2012-04-27 05:00:49 PM  
I bet at least a couple grand came from some farkers and commenters in these threads.
 
2012-04-27 05:01:00 PM  

Mrtraveler01:

/Must be a sad world to live in...thank God I don't live in that kind of world


Thank Fark for the ignore feature.
 
2012-04-27 05:01:03 PM  

JuggleGeek: torr5962: He was near his car during the fight--how could he have continue to pursue yet still be near his car?

By "near his car" you mean "not within sight of his car, in someones back yard".

Mishno: And that's what the prosecuting attorney needs to convince the jury of, not you or me or a bunch of mouth-breathing vigilante types. It works both ways.

Sorry, asshole, but all I've ever asked for is a real investigation and a trial, as opposed to John Doe Cop saying "I don't feel like working this case, and I know his dad, so lets just let him go".

Asking for a trial when you have a dead body and an confession from the guy holding the smoking gun doesn't make me a "mouth breathing vigilante", so go fark yourself.


There was a real investigation and we don't subject people to trials who are found to have acted legally by the police and DA. This is purely politics by the Governor and the nutcase prosecutor that he has appointed to run this mob motivated witch hunt has already broken the law in her overzealous attempt to placate the masses.

Also, his dad had no connection to this. He was a low level traffic court judge from another state who since retired.
 
2012-04-27 05:01:12 PM  

dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.


Hard to "stand your ground" when you're pinned to the pavement and having your head slammed against it.
 
2012-04-27 05:02:20 PM  

Mrtraveler01: beta_plus: Mrtraveler01: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

Yawn.

Wake us up when you have better material. ;)

I'm sorry that your so butthurt that you're not going to get to send an innocent man to the electric chair.

I'm sorry you can't tell the difference between butthurt and plain mocking and ridicule.

It's ok...you'll learn eventually. ;)


Well, I guess that what someone like you would think sitting in your Mom's basement in a upper middle class white majority suburb.
 
2012-04-27 05:02:30 PM  

dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.


I think there's protections in the stand your ground law for civil lawsuits that don't exist for traditional claims of self defense. If they don't use it for their defense I am curious if that opens him up to OJ type lawsuits?
 
2012-04-27 05:02:57 PM  
Some white dude in Alabama got his ass kicked by a group of black guys who yelled that it was for Traypacks.

Weird, nothing from Obama, or Holder, or Al, or Jesse. No hate crime charges even.

Racism and double standards, how does it work, liberals?
 
2012-04-27 05:03:20 PM  

beta_plus: Well, I guess that what someone like you would think sitting in your Mom's basement in a upper middle class white majority suburb.


Heh...I bet you live the same way I do buddy. ;)
 
2012-04-27 05:03:33 PM  
Zimmerman's lawyer also mentioned today that he has had "hundreds" of inquiries to his office on how to donate more money. He said that they are working to set up a way to accept those proposed donations. It's gonna end up being a hell of a lot more than $200,000.
 
2012-04-27 05:03:52 PM  

beta_plus: dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.

Hard to "stand your ground" when you're pinned to the pavement and having your head slammed against it.


He looked pretty spry, undamaged, and not very bloodied for someone who had his head repeatedly slammed against concrete.
 
2012-04-27 05:04:06 PM  

mongbiohazard:
I know what it costs because that's what I do for a living. I provide fully furnished housing to all manner of wealthy folks, VIP's, foreign dignitaries, spooky secret spy guys, etc.... I put a lot of details in my last post. I work in the DC area, but my company also does work all over the country and I can tell you that in Florida $50,000 is a farkton of money for furnished housing in Florida.

In my market I could house him in some really nice, fully furnished d ...



Does it come furnished with physical security that also travels with you if you leave the site? A communication system that is a little bit more difficult to eavesdrop on than the avg. phone? A vehicle that can't be traced back to the occupants of the unit? A secure method of transferring a person (or persons) from a media storm to a secure undisclosed location? OPSEC issues and requirements for the company providing all of this?

I'm not even getting into the idea of having a monitored security system (which I'd assume you have).

If you include all that for the money you mentioned in your original post, I might get one for myself.

There's a lot more to security than the physical structure itself.

/I'd still love to see just what the heck he spent it on
 
2012-04-27 05:04:30 PM  

dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.



If someone broke into your house and you were banging their head into the ground, would they have a green light to shoot you? I'm assuming your answer will be no so my follow up is going to be if Martin was standing his ground wouldn't the same theory apply here? That is why stand your ground matters.
 
2012-04-27 05:04:30 PM  

Thunderpipes: Some white dude in Alabama got his ass kicked by a group of black guys who yelled that it was for Traypacks.

Weird, nothing from Obama, or Holder, or Al, or Jesse. No hate crime charges even.

Racism and double standards, how does it work, liberals?


Oooo yes, let's make white people the victim in all of this nonsense!!!

I always love this part!

/grabs the popcorn
 
2012-04-27 05:04:41 PM  
What Zimmerman's 200 Grand might look like.
media.247sports.com
 
2012-04-27 05:05:12 PM  

Thunderpipes: Racism and double standards, how does it work, liberals?


If there's anything we know for sure is that the Alabama justice department is full of liberals and stuff...
 
2012-04-27 05:05:25 PM  

Headso: dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.

I think there's protections in the stand your ground law for civil lawsuits that don't exist for traditional claims of self defense. If they don't use it for their defense I am curious if that opens him up to OJ type lawsuits?


If he gets off, which he should, Zimmerman has the magic hand of lawsuits. He can sue just about everyone, from big media, to Al and Jesse and company, to the black panthers, if he had balls, the President and the Justice Department.

I mean, NBC (or was it ABC?) intentionally edited the 911 call to make it appear racist and released it to the nation. How much is that worth?
 
2012-04-27 05:05:30 PM  

Headso: dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.

I think there's protections in the stand your ground law for civil lawsuits that don't exist for traditional claims of self defense. If they don't use it for their defense I am curious if that opens him up to OJ type lawsuits?


Speaking of OJ.... the prosecution should learn from that case. Apparently if you're trying to convince a jury these days you need a catchy rhyme. I suggest, "It's stand your ground, not chase a brutha down!"

Guaranteed victory.
 
2012-04-27 05:06:05 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: beta_plus: dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.

Hard to "stand your ground" when you're pinned to the pavement and having your head slammed against it.

He looked pretty spry, undamaged, and not very bloodied for someone who had his head repeatedly slammed against concrete.


www.examiner.com

www.wagist.com

/if you see blood or a broken nose in those pictures, it's only because you're racist
 
2012-04-27 05:06:06 PM  

Thunderpipes: Some white dude in Alabama got his ass kicked by a group of black guys who yelled that it was for Traypacks.

Weird, nothing from Obama, or Holder, or Al, or Jesse. No hate crime charges even.

Racism and double standards, how does it work, liberals?


That particular incident is questionable because that guy seems to have a history of being in such altercations. The point is still valid though as there have been a handful of other such attacks where the history of the victim wasn't questionable.
 
2012-04-27 05:06:09 PM  

s2s2s2: What Zimmerman's 200 Grand might look like.
[media.247sports.com image 478x322]


Heh...I laughed.

/Was never a fan of those myself though
 
2012-04-27 05:06:20 PM  

Silly Jesus: Mishno: And that's what the prosecuting attorney needs to convince the jury of, not you or me or a bunch of mouth-breathing vigilante types. It works both ways.

Sorry, asshole, but all I've ever asked for is a real investigation and a trial, as opposed to John Doe Cop saying "I don't feel like working this case, and I know his dad, so lets just let him go".



Ha ha. I missed that when you posted it, I must already have you on ignore. If you read what I typed you'll see I'm in favor of letting the court system do it's thing too. The "vigilante types" I was referring to are the ones posting death threats against Zimm. But that must have required too much thinking, and everybody knows, thinking is hard.
 
2012-04-27 05:06:44 PM  

Thunderpipes: If he gets off, which he should, Zimmerman has the magic hand of lawsuits.


Giggity.
 
2012-04-27 05:07:22 PM  

Thunderpipes: I mean, NBC (or was it ABC?) intentionally edited the 911 call to make it appear racist and released it to the nation. How much is that worth?


His first suit should go to Melissa Harris Perry for her CNN piece which started the media blitz including the "he continued to pursue, when told not to" fallacy.
 
2012-04-27 05:08:03 PM  

Thunderpipes: Headso: dittybopper: fracto73: Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law.

Stand Your Ground doesn't enter into it.

If Zimmerman's story is correct, he didn't use deadly force until after he was knocked down and getting his ass beat. In every single state, no matter whether you initiated the fight or not, you can use deadly force if you reasonably believe you are in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm, and you can't escape. If someone has you pinned down and it banging your head, I think that counts.

I think there's protections in the stand your ground law for civil lawsuits that don't exist for traditional claims of self defense. If they don't use it for their defense I am curious if that opens him up to OJ type lawsuits?

If he gets off, which he should, Zimmerman has the magic hand of lawsuits. He can sue just about everyone, from big media, to Al and Jesse and company, to the black panthers, if he had balls, the President and the Justice Department.

I mean, NBC (or was it ABC?) intentionally edited the 911 call to make it appear racist and released it to the nation. How much is that worth?


You get a lawsuit, and you get a lawsuit, and you get a lawsuit.

Everybody gets a lawsuit!!!
 
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