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2012-04-27 04:24:38 PM  

jafiwam: The actions of others (not you, I know you are a bit better) calling for "justice for trayvon" seem to be pretty high-order hypocritical equivalent to jews advocating people being thrown in ovens.


Man, I've seen some ridiculous comparisons on Fark, but to say that wanting someone to be tried by a jury of his peers is equivalent to supporting the Holocaust is probably the most stupid thing I've ever read.
 
2012-04-27 04:25:33 PM  

Mishno: 'cause the kid had him by the neck and was beating his head against the pavement?


That's not what happened.Did he hit his head on something? Yeah. But it wasn't repeatedly and it wasn't severe.

I'm wondering if O'Mara is going to stay on now. This looks bad for him.
 
2012-04-27 04:26:08 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: jafiwam: The actions of others (not you, I know you are a bit better) calling for "justice for trayvon" seem to be pretty high-order hypocritical equivalent to jews advocating people being thrown in ovens.

Man, I've seen some ridiculous comparisons on Fark, but to say that wanting someone to be tried by a jury of his peers is equivalent to supporting the Holocaust is probably the most stupid thing I've ever read.


He went full retard.
 
2012-04-27 04:26:25 PM  
Since he turned himself in, shouldn't he receive the Black Panthers' bounty?
 
2012-04-27 04:26:43 PM  

trippdogg: Note to self:
1. Violate law in a controversial way supported by conservative morons
2. Set up legal defense fund
3. Profit


Sounds like a kickstarter project. You don't even need to do it, just tell them you plan to.
 
2012-04-27 04:27:14 PM  
cretinbob: "Clearly this is Trayvon's fault, "

Well a while back Zimmerman was harassed by that neighborhood pitbull and subsequently spent about a thousand dollars on personal security. So you can see where spending 50 thousand for security from a possible angry mob would seem reasonable to him.

/yes, that's sarcasm
 
2012-04-27 04:28:09 PM  
It seems perfectly cromulent that a judge can set a bail amount, and then when he finds out the accused can afford to pay it, to then go and increase the bail amount.

Nothing wrong with that at all.
 
2012-04-27 04:29:12 PM  

Bunnyhat: Dogberry: keylock71: Isn't his daddy a retired judge, too?

He was a magistrate, not a judge. It's not a well-paying job (not minimum wage or anything, but not big money).

Link


$150,000 a year isn't a well-paying job?


Virginia Magistrates don't do the work for the pay. That's for sure. I forget the median salary but it sucks.
 
2012-04-27 04:29:34 PM  
Screw this working stuff, I'm moving to Florida to kill me a fortune.
 
2012-04-27 04:29:52 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Weaver95: dittybopper: he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).

I don't know about living arrangements...but yeah, security is something I can see being a primary concern for Zimmerman. that's expensive to set up and he's gonna need someone watching his back if he plans on living through the trial. lot of people wouldn't mind seeing him fall down some stairs and onto a couple of bullets. so spending $50k on security guards and/or alarm systems and body armor wouldn't be out of the question.


Jesus, is there anything this guy does that you all can't find an explanation for?


Have you ever tried to do the stuff (on short notice, no less) related to dittybopper's comment?

It's not cheap. Seriously, look it up.

Now if that's what he's spending it on (reasonable assumption), then I'll press the "I believe" button on the expenses. If not, then yeah, totally ridiculous.

If his lawyer is smart, he's making sure that every penny is accounted for in a ledger so that if there's ever a question regarding it, it can be explained.

/can't believe he's got 200K in donations
 
2012-04-27 04:30:09 PM  
choosepp.net

Derpnuts! Get your fresh roasted derpnuts, folks! They're nice and hot!
 
2012-04-27 04:30:29 PM  

beta_plus: Yeah, because defending yourself against a smear campaign and a lynch mob is cheap.

Oh BTW, White Hispanic Zimmerman's is Black - at least by the Obama definition.

/poor little liberals are so butthurt that they didn't get their Great White Defendant.


I have to admit I'm relieved there weren't any white people involved in this.
 
2012-04-27 04:30:41 PM  

Serious Black: Vodka Zombie: Serious Black: Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.

So, you're the one frowning on our shenanigans?

I frown on everyone's shenangians! I'm an equal-opportunity frowner.

dittybopper: Serious Black: dittybopper: Serious Black:

IANAL by any stretch

With a name like "Serious Black", I bet you do.

Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.

I was making an interracial anal sex joke. Why you have to ruin it? WHY?

Man, that joke just sailed right over my head. I should probably be punished for missing that. Does anybody have the best of winterwhile's trolls on tape?


How about bevets how-to on evolution?
 
2012-04-27 04:32:18 PM  

valar_morghulis: Mishno: valar_morghulis: DROxINxTHExWIND: Weaver95: dittybopper: he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).

I don't know about living arrangements...but yeah, security is something I can see being a primary concern for Zimmerman. that's expensive to set up and he's gonna need someone watching his back if he plans on living through the trial. lot of people wouldn't mind seeing him fall down some stairs and onto a couple of bullets. so spending $50k on security guards and/or alarm systems and body armor wouldn't be out of the question.


Jesus, is there anything this guy does that you all can't find an explanation for?

I'm still at a loss as to why he ran down and murdered a black kid.

'cause the kid had him by the neck and was beating his head against the pavement?

So you're saying he ran a kid down while being held down with his head bashed against the pavement? Did he slip into another dimension to do this?


I'm not the judge or jury, I'm happy to let them decide, but, how I understand the event timeline is:

-Zimm is on community watch and he spots a "suspicious" person and follows. Probably imprudent.
-Kid sees he's being followed and doesn't like it, gets scared.
-Kid runs ahead and hides behind a house.
-Zimm stupidly follows, against the advice and urging of the 911 operator
-Kid jumps out and confronts Zimm, grabbing him by the neck and beating his head against the ground.
-Zimm shoots kid.

/I'm not going to dig up but I have read a number of them and that's the gist I take away from them. Zimm's got his day in court, let the best lawyer win let's hope that the truth will be revealed.
 
2012-04-27 04:33:19 PM  
AZLEFTY"Additionally 2nd Degree Murder is not an overcharge as some suggest, since it can be argued he acted with depraved indifference in the events that led up to the shooting."


I can be argued, but that doesnt mean the prosecution isnt violently grasping at straws. How can the lawyers begin to prove Zimmerman acted with "depraved indifference" when he can counter that he he stopped when the 911 operator told him not to pursue? This case is very fast and loose with speculation, but in a court of law, you have to have facts to show "beyond a reasonable doubt" that Zimmerman wasnt acting in self defense. There's pics of a busted head. The screams on the recording are 50-50 AT BEST that it is Trayvon yelling before the shots rang out (In my mind, it was not Trayvon, as theres no way he was losing a fight to this guy).

They would be lucky to get an involuntary manslaughter charge approved. It is a complete overreach and this will just end badly for everyone.
 
2012-04-27 04:33:44 PM  
UNLEASH THE ZIMMER MAN!
 
2012-04-27 04:34:50 PM  

keylock71: Car_Ramrod: But as it turns out, Zimmerman had in fact raised more than $200,000 from supporters on a website and PayPal account he established.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Heh... That was my first thought.

Isn't his daddy a retired judge, too?

Yeah, I'm sure the family was living in poverty.


Wow, you're not even trying to hide your envy anymore. Those evil (hispanic) whites need to pay. Let's whip up a media frenzy, put him through a kangaroo court, and bankrupt him and everyone he loves. He should not be able to use money that people who see an innocent man being railroaded to the death penalty freely gave him as he sees fit. Of course, you don't think anyone should be able to do anything that you don't approve of. Like defending themselves and the ones they love.

I know, I know, only people you like deserve due process.

/and you wonder why we Republicans don't trust you?
 
2012-04-27 04:35:54 PM  

meathome: /can't believe he's got 200K in donations


Slippery slopes make strange bedfellows?
 
2012-04-27 04:36:45 PM  
How many of you know how Paypal works? Even if you've got $200,000 in a Paypal account, you can not use it, in some cases for up to 90 days. Therefore, as he was unable to access the money, they did not have it to pay bond with.
 
2012-04-27 04:37:41 PM  
He spent the 50k on hoodies for minorities....

/having a seat over there.
 
2012-04-27 04:38:28 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: jafiwam: The actions of others (not you, I know you are a bit better) calling for "justice for trayvon" seem to be pretty high-order hypocritical equivalent to jews advocating people being thrown in ovens.

Man, I've seen some ridiculous comparisons on Fark, but to say that wanting someone to be tried by a jury of his peers is equivalent to supporting the Holocaust is probably the most stupid thing I've ever read.


Dead or Alive illegal bounties don't count when liberals do it.
 
2012-04-27 04:38:36 PM  

durbnpoisn: Until today, I didn't realize that bail was set based on how much a defendant had. I thought it was based on how bad the crime was, and what their risk of skipping bail were.

So, if he has a lot of money, his bail should be higher?! Why the fark is that?!
The idea that someone might simply skip bail because they are loaded is totally absurd. Where will they go? What will they do? How will they get access to all that money?

There is something seriously stupid about this.

In fact, there is something seriously stupid about this entire situation. There is FAR more to this story than we know.


The more money the defendant has, the greater his ability to flee. ABILITY to flee. As to how they get access--very wealthy defendants have emptied their accounts right from the holding cell, then get out, buy a plane ticket to the nearest non-extraditable country, and vanish into the night. It's not that hard. Even poorer people with sympathetic friends and relatives need only go to the closest ATM upon release, drive to whichever cousin has promised not to tell the cops where they are, and then not answer the phone.

You're making the classic mistake of the generally honest person, which is that everyone else is generally honest and would do what you would do. This is incorrect.
 
2012-04-27 04:38:49 PM  
ocelot: I can't wait until this guy walks and the media turns into a puddle of WTF.

Hmmm...if I were a Korean storeowner in downtown Negropolia, I think I would be closed on the day the verdict was announced (but inside my store with numerous shotguns loaded with all kinds of interesting ammo, and armored, and my lawyer on speed dial).
 
2012-04-27 04:39:05 PM  

meathome: DROxINxTHExWIND: Weaver95: dittybopper: he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).

I don't know about living arrangements...but yeah, security is something I can see being a primary concern for Zimmerman. that's expensive to set up and he's gonna need someone watching his back if he plans on living through the trial. lot of people wouldn't mind seeing him fall down some stairs and onto a couple of bullets. so spending $50k on security guards and/or alarm systems and body armor wouldn't be out of the question.


Jesus, is there anything this guy does that you all can't find an explanation for?

Have you ever tried to do the stuff (on short notice, no less) related to dittybopper's comment?

It's not cheap. Seriously, look it up.

Now if that's what he's spending it on (reasonable assumption), then I'll press the "I believe" button on the expenses. If not, then yeah, totally ridiculous.

If his lawyer is smart, he's making sure that every penny is accounted for in a ledger so that if there's ever a question regarding it, it can be explained.

/can't believe he's got 200K in donations



I know what it costs because that's what I do for a living. I provide fully furnished housing to all manner of wealthy folks, VIP's, foreign dignitaries, spooky secret spy guys, etc.... I put a lot of details in my last post. I work in the DC area, but my company also does work all over the country and I can tell you that in Florida $50,000 is a farkton of money for furnished housing in Florida.

In my market I could house him in some really nice, fully furnished digs for like $6000 - $7000 a month, no problem. In Florida you're talking more like $2800 to $3800 a month.
 
2012-04-27 04:39:34 PM  

Mishno: 'cause the kid had him by the neck and was beating his head against the pavement?


Seems to me the kid had a right to defend himself against the gun wielding maniac that chased him down in after dark. If the kid had been better at defending himself, Zimmerman would be the dead guy, and Martin would be the one having to explain it. But Martin's story would have been something along the lines of "I didn't know who it was, or why he was following me. I tried to get away from him, and then I hid, but he found me." And Martin wouldn't have killed an unarmed man who was minding his own business. He would have killed an armed man who chased him down.
 
2012-04-27 04:40:14 PM  
beta_plus:

/and you wonder why we Republicans don't trust you?

Not really. It's pretty obvious that you create your own facts and live in your own reality. It's a very clean, very white reality. Lots of dudes. Lots of guns. Sounds fun, if you're into that kind of thing.
 
2012-04-27 04:40:17 PM  

torr5962: AZLEFTY"Additionally 2nd Degree Murder is not an overcharge as some suggest, since it can be argued he acted with depraved indifference in the events that led up to the shooting."


I can be argued, but that doesnt mean the prosecution isnt violently grasping at straws. How can the lawyers begin to prove Zimmerman acted with "depraved indifference" when he can counter that he he stopped when the 911 operator told him not to pursue? This case is very fast and loose with speculation, but in a court of law, you have to have facts to show "beyond a reasonable doubt" that Zimmerman wasnt acting in self defense. There's pics of a busted head. The screams on the recording are 50-50 AT BEST that it is Trayvon yelling before the shots rang out (In my mind, it was not Trayvon, as theres no way he was losing a fight to this guy).

They would be lucky to get an involuntary manslaughter charge approved. It is a complete overreach and this will just end badly for everyone.


No he can't, because he didn't.
 
2012-04-27 04:40:40 PM  

HAMMERTOE: How many of you know how Paypal works? Even if you've got $200,000 in a Paypal account, you can not use it, in some cases for up to 90 days. Therefore, as he was unable to access the money, they did not have it to pay bond with.


It is completely dependent on how the money was transferred to your paypal account. If they came from an ACH transaction, they are available immediately.

It does not matter anyway. No one said that he spent 50K. I bet it turns out to be less than a quarter of that. Ultimately he will burn through most if now all of it on various expenses.
 
2012-04-27 04:40:52 PM  
Can't wait to watch the homies and nappy headed ho's burn their own neighborhoods because they are angry at whitey when this latino with african ancestry walks.
 
2012-04-27 04:41:19 PM  
Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".
 
2012-04-27 04:41:46 PM  

All_Farked_Up: ocelot: I can't wait until this guy walks and the media turns into a puddle of WTF.

After the riots he'll be tried again and convicted. Just like the Rodney King case.


I love this presumption that a riot must happen because a black kid was involved.

The original reports that race had something to do with this died out when the recording that was reported as "coon" was revealed to be some other word (cold?).

The million hoodie march was peaceful, even at the height of this whole mess when a racial component was considered a primary motivation.

now, what do we have?

Martin's side is not pushing a racial tone.

But Zimmerman fans are certainly keeping it alive.
 
2012-04-27 04:42:13 PM  
So you're saying he ran a kid down while being held down with his head bashed against the pavement? Did he slip into another dimension to do this?

I'm not the judge or jury, I'm happy to let them decide, but, how I understand the event timeline is:

-Zimm is on community watch and he spots a "suspicious" person and follows. Probably imprudent.
-Kid sees he's being followed and doesn't like it, gets scared.
-Kid runs ahead and hides behind a house.
-Zimm stupidly follows, against the advice and urging of the 911 operator
-Kid jumps out and confronts Zimm, grabbing him by the neck and beating his head against the ground.
-Zimm shoots kid.

/I'm not going to dig up but I have read a number of them and that's the gist I take away from them. Zimm's got his day in court, let the best lawyer win let's hope that the truth will be revea



The timeline is flawed.

He was near his car during the fight--how could he have continue to pursue yet still be near his car?
He stopped pursuing when 911 operator told him to.
Martin came from Zimmerman's side and suckered him to the ground.
Martin was easily winning the fight, causing Zimmerbiatch to cry for help.
Zimm shoots Martin.

The whole situation sucks. Gun laws are mostly to blame in my mind, but also pitbulls (the main reason why Zimm got a gun).

A rush to judgment and a tabloid media created all the false information. By law, its a straight up self-defense case and will win in court unless the black community threatens to loot stores in Sanford, FL.
 
2012-04-27 04:42:15 PM  

beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".


Yawn.

Wake us up when you have better material. ;)
 
2012-04-27 04:42:30 PM  

beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".


yeah, because this is a liberal vs. conservative issue
 
2012-04-27 04:42:52 PM  
I would have thought that someone with somewhere between eight to ten beers here would have donated at least twice that amount.
 
2012-04-27 04:43:09 PM  

Gyrfalcon: ThisIsNotSubtle: Any bets on how many lawyers Zimmerman goes through before this is all over?

Zimmerman's (current) lawyer was on TruTV this morning just before I changed the channel in pure apathy, detailing how much it was going to cost HIM to put on his case. He's already up to $400,000, for a thousand hours of work at a "low rate" of $400/hour.

I mean, sure, this case is going to cost plenty in terms of billable hours; but I don't doubt for a second that the film and book rights are already pending. You could at least TRY not to sound like such a heartless bottom-feeder, counselor.


I bet that interview racked up some $$$.
Anyone else hearing, "If the head is split, you must acquit!"
 
2012-04-27 04:43:17 PM  

Mishno: I'm not the judge or jury, I'm happy to let them decide, but, how I understand the event timeline is:

-Zimm is on community watch and he spots a "suspicious" person and follows. Probably imprudent.
-Kid sees he's being followed and doesn't like it, gets scared.
-Kid runs ahead and hides behind a house.
-Zimm stupidly follows, against the advice and urging of the 911 operator
-Kid jumps out and confronts Zimm, grabbing him by the neck and beating his head against the ground.
-Zimm shoots kid.


I would replace the last two with:
-Kid stands his ground
-Zimm stands his ground

Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law. I think the same would be true if Martin had beaten Zimmerman to death instead. Morally I think his poor judgement led to a dead kid, but in court the law is what matters.
 
2012-04-27 04:43:43 PM  
In other news: Farker "9beers" bank account is now $1.39
 
2012-04-27 04:44:00 PM  

Delay: I would have thought that someone with somewhere between eight to ten beers here would have donated at least twice that amount.


He stated at one point that he gave $50. I wouldn't be surprised if that was $50 for every time the account was mentioned in a thread though.
 
2012-04-27 04:44:03 PM  

mongbiohazard: dittybopper: he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).


Hmm.... I'd be inclined to disagree.

I do high-end, short term fully furnished apartments for a living and have been for around 9 years now. Before that I was in the unfurnished apartment business for years. Here in Washington DC - one of the two most expensive markets for corporate housing in the country (the other being NYC, and prices there are pretty close to ours here in DC). My clients are all manners of VIP's, with many levels of secrecy. I have a good number of guests right now staying under assumed names and with the bills being paid for by shell corporations.

I have an ambassador with my cell on speed dial right now (lol - not as glamorous as that might sound at first - "Hey mongbiohazard, how do I use the TV? I messed it up again.")

I could get him a fully furnished apartment in a very nice building in Washington DC for $7000 a month. We don't do deposits, and in the rare cases we do (foreign nationals with no US credit history) it will be a few hundred dollars, and never more than $1000. We just bill up front each month. That price would include everything but food, clothing and personal effects. It will have pots and pans, bed linens, towels, even pictures on the walls. That cost also includes housekeeping once every other week.

For $50,000 I could house him for like 7 months in those swanky downtown accommodations in one of the nation's most expensive neighborhoods. Longer if he only needed a one bedroom apartment. And I mean, blocks from the national mall, in the theater dist ...


That's all well and good.

Now imagine you are Joe Schmuck, and you don't have access to all that. You don't have the connections. You don't know who to call. You'll end up paying through the nose.
 
2012-04-27 04:44:28 PM  

torr5962: So you're saying he ran a kid down while being held down with his head bashed against the pavement? Did he slip into another dimension to do this?

I'm not the judge or jury, I'm happy to let them decide, but, how I understand the event timeline is:

-Zimm is on community watch and he spots a "suspicious" person and follows. Probably imprudent.
-Kid sees he's being followed and doesn't like it, gets scared.
-Kid runs ahead and hides behind a house.
-Zimm stupidly follows, against the advice and urging of the 911 operator
-Kid jumps out and confronts Zimm, grabbing him by the neck and beating his head against the ground.
-Zimm shoots kid.

/I'm not going to dig up but I have read a number of them and that's the gist I take away from them. Zimm's got his day in court, let the best lawyer win let's hope that the truth will be revea


The timeline is flawed.

He was near his car during the fight--how could he have continue to pursue yet still be near his car?
He stopped pursuing when 911 operator told him to.
Martin came from Zimmerman's side and suckered him to the ground.
Martin was easily winning the fight, causing Zimmerbiatch to cry for help.
Zimm shoots Martin.

The whole situation sucks. Gun laws are mostly to blame in my mind, but also pitbulls (the main reason why Zimm got a gun).

A rush to judgment and a tabloid media created all the false information. By law, its a straight up self-defense case and will win in court unless the black community threatens to loot stores in Sanford, FL.


Brilliant trolling. Subtle. Hint of cilantro. 9/10.
 
2012-04-27 04:44:51 PM  

keithgabryelski: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

yeah, because this is a liberal vs. conservative issue


Everything is a liberal vs. conservative issue to beta_plus

EVERYTHING!!!

/Must be a sad world to live in...thank God I don't live in that kind of world
 
2012-04-27 04:45:07 PM  

fracto73: Mishno: I'm not the judge or jury, I'm happy to let them decide, but, how I understand the event timeline is:

-Zimm is on community watch and he spots a "suspicious" person and follows. Probably imprudent.
-Kid sees he's being followed and doesn't like it, gets scared.
-Kid runs ahead and hides behind a house.
-Zimm stupidly follows, against the advice and urging of the 911 operator
-Kid jumps out and confronts Zimm, grabbing him by the neck and beating his head against the ground.
-Zimm shoots kid.

I would replace the last two with:
-Kid stands his ground
-Zimm stands his ground

Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law. I think the same would be true if Martin had beaten Zimmerman to death instead. Morally I think his poor judgement led to a dead kid, but in court the law is what matters.


This ^
 
2012-04-27 04:45:18 PM  

JuggleGeek: Mishno: 'cause the kid had him by the neck and was beating his head against the pavement?

Seems to me the kid had a right to defend himself against the gun wielding maniac that chased him down in after dark. If the kid had been better at defending himself, Zimmerman would be the dead guy, and Martin would be the one having to explain it. But Martin's story would have been something along the lines of "I didn't know who it was, or why he was following me. I tried to get away from him, and then I hid, but he found me." And Martin wouldn't have killed an unarmed man who was minding his own business. He would have killed an armed man who chased him down.


And that's what the prosecuting attorney needs to convince the jury of, not you or me or a bunch of mouth-breathing vigilante types. It works both ways.
 
2012-04-27 04:45:53 PM  

meathome: DROxINxTHExWIND: Weaver95: dittybopper: he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).

I don't know about living arrangements...but yeah, security is something I can see being a primary concern for Zimmerman. that's expensive to set up and he's gonna need someone watching his back if he plans on living through the trial. lot of people wouldn't mind seeing him fall down some stairs and onto a couple of bullets. so spending $50k on security guards and/or alarm systems and body armor wouldn't be out of the question.


Jesus, is there anything this guy does that you all can't find an explanation for?

Have you ever tried to do the stuff (on short notice, no less) related to dittybopper's comment?

It's not cheap. Seriously, look it up.

Now if that's what he's spending it on (reasonable assumption), then I'll press the "I believe" button on the expenses. If not, then yeah, totally ridiculous.

If his lawyer is smart, he's making sure that every penny is accounted for in a ledger so that if there's ever a question regarding it, it can be explained.

/can't believe he's got 200K in donations


You all are TOTALLY missing the point of my question. It could be that Zimmerman has a very legitimate reason for not disclosing the funds at his bond hearing. It could be that he has treated the donations like a responsible employee would treat his expense account, watching costs, spending only whats necessary, and keeping his documentation. This could ALL be on the up and up. But you mutherfarkers don't know that. Yet, here you all are with a thousand explanations for his actions...again. The easiest explanation here is that this guy LIED by omission in order to keep his bail low. The people who try to explain away Trayvons death by "looking at his history" are the same clowns who casually dismiss this guys pattern of lies and violence. It would be pretty entertaining if it weren't so sad.
 
2012-04-27 04:46:29 PM  

HAMMERTOE: How many of you know how Paypal works? Even if you've got $200,000 in a Paypal account, you can not use it, in some cases for up to 90 days. Therefore, as he was unable to access the money, they did not have it to pay bond with.


That's only true of Ebay auctions.

For the "Donation" button, there's no waiting period. If you have a PayPal account and someone pays you directly (i.e. not through Ebay), you have access to the money immediately, and can access it with your PayPal debit card.

Of course, they put limits on how much you can withdraw in a given time period, but that doesn't mean you don't have the money. Legally, it's still your money and thus an asset to disclose, whether or not you can withdraw all of it at once.
 
2012-04-27 04:47:20 PM  

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2012-04-27 04:47:45 PM  

fracto73: I would replace the last two with:
-Kid stands his ground
-Zimm stands his ground

Honestly, I think Zimmerman might be legally off the hook because of the stand your ground law. I think the same would be true if Martin had beaten Zimmerman to death instead. Morally I think his poor judgement led to a dead kid, but in court the law is what matters.


I agree with this and I think it's the strangest thing. How can you have a law that basically boils down to "whoever shoots first wins" legally?

Florida.
 
2012-04-27 04:48:35 PM  

durbnpoisn: Until today, I didn't realize that bail was set based on how much a defendant had. I thought it was based on how bad the crime was, and what their risk of skipping bail were.

So, if he has a lot of money, his bail should be higher?! Why the fark is that?!


The more resources available to you, the greater the chances of you skipping town.

Me, with a few hundred dollars in my bank account? I'm not going to go far. At best, maybe I have a friend willing to put me up in whatever state I can get to on what I have. Which isn't far. And is really easily traceable since I pretty much hang out with people in my own general class status.

Someone with a million plus dollars in an account, plus access to other multi-millionaires who potentially have out of state/country homes, jets, etc? They are a significantly higher flight risk.

That's how assets come into play.
 
2012-04-27 04:49:11 PM  

Mrtraveler01: beta_plus: Aww, poor liberals didn't get a chance to shank Zimmerman in county to get "Justice for Trayvon".

Yawn.

Wake us up when you have better material. ;)


I'm sorry that your so butthurt that you're not going to get to send an innocent man to the electric chair.
 
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