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(LA Times)   Of the $200,000 in donations George Zimmerman raised from his website, he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"   (latimes.com) divider line 929
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2012-04-27 01:07:47 PM  
"The family members represented that they had no money, when in truth they really did," he told the judge. "...I don't know if they did that intentionally, or what."

I don't think you want to lie to a judge. if the judge decides the family lied to him, it will go badly for Zimmerman.
 
2012-04-27 01:09:19 PM  
Zimmerman!

DRINK!
 
2012-04-27 01:16:23 PM  

Weaver95: "The family members represented that they had no money, when in truth they really did," he told the judge. "...I don't know if they did that intentionally, or what."

I don't think you want to lie to a judge. if the judge decides the family lied to him, it will go badly for Zimmerman.


So you're saying that the judge was hoodwinked when he was told their life was not beer and skittles?

There seems to be a disturbing trend.
 
2012-04-27 01:16:59 PM  
Heh, I wouldn't be surprised if it went to security measures.
 
2012-04-27 01:19:31 PM  
he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).
 
2012-04-27 01:19:38 PM  
But as it turns out, Zimmerman had in fact raised more than $200,000 from supporters on a website and PayPal account he established.

A fool and his money are soon parted.
 
2012-04-27 01:22:17 PM  
Skin mags and Yoo-Hoo.
 
2012-04-27 01:25:20 PM  
Any bets on how many lawyers Zimmerman goes through before this is all over?
 
2012-04-27 01:26:34 PM  

dittybopper: he's already blown through $50,000 of it on "living expenses, rent or whatever"

I can honestly see that. He had to find a reasonably place to live fairly anonymously, and fast. That means probably some kind of limited access apartment, and I'm sure they'd want more than just a single months rent and a security deposit, especially knowing who he is. Probably have to rent a car also, and of course food and someone to go buy it for him (or have it delivered).


I don't know about living arrangements...but yeah, security is something I can see being a primary concern for Zimmerman. that's expensive to set up and he's gonna need someone watching his back if he plans on living through the trial. lot of people wouldn't mind seeing him fall down some stairs and onto a couple of bullets. so spending $50k on security guards and/or alarm systems and body armor wouldn't be out of the question.
 
2012-04-27 01:27:44 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Weaver95: "The family members represented that they had no money, when in truth they really did," he told the judge. "...I don't know if they did that intentionally, or what."

I don't think you want to lie to a judge. if the judge decides the family lied to him, it will go badly for Zimmerman.

So you're saying that the judge was hoodwinked when he was told their life was not beer and skittles?

There seems to be a disturbing trend.


That's tea and skittles, thank you very much.
 
2012-04-27 01:28:11 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Weaver95: "The family members represented that they had no money, when in truth they really did," he told the judge. "...I don't know if they did that intentionally, or what."

I don't think you want to lie to a judge. if the judge decides the family lied to him, it will go badly for Zimmerman.

So you're saying that the judge was hoodwinked when he was told their life was not beer and skittles?

There seems to be a disturbing trend.


i'm saying that if the judge asks you the details of your finances, make sure you don't forget to mention the $200k you've got in a bank account somewhere. judges tend to get cranky about missing details like that, and when a judge gets cranky, they can do all kinds of things to make your life uncomfortable.
 
2012-04-27 01:30:44 PM  
If there's anything this guy is known for, it's his ability to think things through and his superb impulse control. I'm sure everything here is legit.
 
2012-04-27 01:30:58 PM  
George Zimmerman declares "I am not a warlock!"
 
2012-04-27 01:32:40 PM  

Weaver95: I_Am_Weasel: Weaver95: "The family members represented that they had no money, when in truth they really did," he told the judge. "...I don't know if they did that intentionally, or what."

I don't think you want to lie to a judge. if the judge decides the family lied to him, it will go badly for Zimmerman.

So you're saying that the judge was hoodwinked when he was told their life was not beer and skittles?

There seems to be a disturbing trend.

i'm saying that if the judge asks you the details of your finances, make sure you don't forget to mention the $200k you've got in a bank account somewhere. judges tend to get cranky about missing details like that, and when a judge gets cranky, they can do all kinds of things to make your life uncomfortable.


IANAL by any stretch, but I really wouldn't be surprised if he was brought up on perjury charges and brought back to jail.
 
2012-04-27 01:36:30 PM  

Serious Black:

IANAL by any stretch


With a name like "Serious Black", I bet you do.
 
2012-04-27 01:37:04 PM  

Car_Ramrod: But as it turns out, Zimmerman had in fact raised more than $200,000 from supporters on a website and PayPal account he established.

A fool and his money are soon parted.


Heh... That was my first thought.

Isn't his daddy a retired judge, too?

Yeah, I'm sure the family was living in poverty.
 
2012-04-27 01:39:09 PM  
The point of a bond amount is to insure the accused shows up to court. The person is still presumed innocent and bond amounts are not supposed to be punitive. I doubt very much Zimmerman set up the PayPal account, his attorney on the other hand wants to be paid. If he was not overcharged there would be a question of excessive bond already.
 
2012-04-27 01:41:31 PM  
Check out Zimmi's new gun collection
 
2012-04-27 01:44:10 PM  

eurotrader: The point of a bond amount is to insure the accused shows up to court. The person is still presumed innocent and bond amounts are not supposed to be punitive. I doubt very much Zimmerman set up the PayPal account, his attorney on the other hand wants to be paid. If he was not overcharged there would be a question of excessive bond already.


Zimmerman was the one who set up the website and paypal account. His first lawyer quit partly because of it.
 
2012-04-27 01:45:21 PM  

Weaver95: I_Am_Weasel: Weaver95: "The family members represented that they had no money, when in truth they really did," he told the judge. "...I don't know if they did that intentionally, or what."

I don't think you want to lie to a judge. if the judge decides the family lied to him, it will go badly for Zimmerman.

So you're saying that the judge was hoodwinked when he was told their life was not beer and skittles?

There seems to be a disturbing trend.

i'm saying that if the judge asks you the details of your finances, make sure you don't forget to mention the $200k you've got in a bank account somewhere. judges tend to get cranky about missing details like that, and when a judge gets cranky, they can do all kinds of things to make your life uncomfortable.


Absolutely. You don't want to be in the position of having lied to a judge.

Having said that, the devil is in the details, and Zimmerman's attorney reported it to the court when he found out about it. That counts a lot towards a judge saying "Honest mistake, don't let it happen again". Had it been the prosecutors office that reported it, the judge would likely be crankier.

Which brings up an interesting point: If they put up a public website where people could donate money to his defense, how come the DA didn't know about it? Is that indicative of their investigative prowess?
 
2012-04-27 01:48:12 PM  

dittybopper: Serious Black:

IANAL by any stretch

With a name like "Serious Black", I bet you do.


Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.
 
2012-04-27 01:48:56 PM  

ThisIsNotSubtle: Any bets on how many lawyers Zimmerman goes through before this is all over?


O'Mara is/was one of the local news station's legal correspondents. A week before Zimmerman turned himself in, he was saying on the news how this case is a loser (good bad or indifferent) and didn't know why anyone would take the case. A week later Zimmerman's legal team bails (undertandably) and O'Mara's on the case.

I agree that in our system everyone deserves an adequate defense. But really?
 
2012-04-27 01:52:04 PM  
He's pulling a Palin and scamming retards out of money so he can life the good life.
 
2012-04-27 01:52:32 PM  

Serious Black: dittybopper: Serious Black:

IANAL by any stretch

With a name like "Serious Black", I bet you do.

Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.


I was making an interracial anal sex joke. Why you have to ruin it? WHY?
 
2012-04-27 01:54:38 PM  

dittybopper: Serious Black: dittybopper: Serious Black:

IANAL by any stretch

With a name like "Serious Black", I bet you do.

Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.

I was making an interracial anal sex joke. Why you have to ruin it? WHY?


Ain't it a pain in the ass when that happens?
 
2012-04-27 01:55:05 PM  

Serious Black: Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.


So, you're the one frowning on our shenanigans?
 
2012-04-27 01:55:40 PM  

Diogenes: ThisIsNotSubtle: Any bets on how many lawyers Zimmerman goes through before this is all over?

O'Mara is/was one of the local news station's legal correspondents. A week before Zimmerman turned himself in, he was saying on the news how this case is a loser (good bad or indifferent) and didn't know why anyone would take the case. A week later Zimmerman's legal team bails (undertandably) and O'Mara's on the case.

I agree that in our system everyone deserves an adequate defense. But really?


He's a lawyer. He takes the side of whomever is paying his bills.
 
2012-04-27 01:58:05 PM  
Interesting
 
2012-04-27 02:00:15 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Serious Black: Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.

So, you're the one frowning on our shenanigans?


I frown on everyone's shenangians! I'm an equal-opportunity frowner.

dittybopper: Serious Black: dittybopper: Serious Black:

IANAL by any stretch

With a name like "Serious Black", I bet you do.

Yes, because I am obviously a humorless African-American.

I was making an interracial anal sex joke. Why you have to ruin it? WHY?


Man, that joke just sailed right over my head. I should probably be punished for missing that. Does anybody have the best of winterwhile's trolls on tape?
 
2012-04-27 02:00:21 PM  

keylock71: Isn't his daddy a retired judge, too?


He was a magistrate, not a judge. It's not a well-paying job (not minimum wage or anything, but not big money).
 
2012-04-27 02:06:48 PM  

Serious Black: Does anybody have the best of winterwhile's trolls on tape?


DVD, the Director of Propaganda's cut.
 
2012-04-27 02:09:52 PM  

eurotrader: The point of a bond amount is to insure the accused shows up to court. The person is still presumed innocent and bond amounts are not supposed to be punitive. I doubt very much Zimmerman set up the PayPal account, his attorney on the other hand wants to be paid. If he was not overcharged there would be a question of excessive bond already.


As part of setting Bond, it is supposed to be high enough so that the accused and those funding it have the Financial incentive to insure the accused shows up as mandated. WE now learn that his family could pay off the bail bondsman with "donations" if he absconds, making 150K not a good guarantee for his continued cooperation with the Courts.

Additionally 2nd Degree Murder is not an overcharge as some suggest, since it can be argued he acted with depraved indifference in the events that led up to the shooting.
 
2012-04-27 02:09:52 PM  
Cocaine and she-male hookers?
 
2012-04-27 02:16:51 PM  

Dogberry: keylock71: Isn't his daddy a retired judge, too?

He was a magistrate, not a judge. It's not a well-paying job (not minimum wage or anything, but not big money).


Ah, thanks.
 
2012-04-27 02:21:06 PM  
i suppose if i knew i were going to jail for a long, long time, i'd live it up too.
 
2012-04-27 02:30:40 PM  
It seems a lot of people aren't RTFA. The 50k on living expenses isn't the issue. The issue is that his family told the judge he had no money.
 
2012-04-27 02:33:13 PM  
Is he living out of the mini fridges at the hotels he's staying at or what?
 
2012-04-27 02:38:15 PM  
Lying to the judge, ehh?

Seems little Georgy Porgy isn't as pure as the driven snow.
 
2012-04-27 02:48:24 PM  

Jake Havechek: Lying to the judge, ehh?

Seems little Georgy Porgy isn't as pure as the driven snow.


That doesn't mean Treyvon didn't earn his halo. Let the jury decide, thanks.
 
2012-04-27 02:50:06 PM  

doglover: Jake Havechek: Lying to the judge, ehh?

Seems little Georgy Porgy isn't as pure as the driven snow.

That doesn't mean Treyvon didn't earn his halo. Let the jury decide, thanks.


What jury? Everybody and their brother has heard about this stupid case. This will mistrial for sure.
 
2012-04-27 02:51:12 PM  

doglover: Jake Havechek: Lying to the judge, ehh?

Seems little Georgy Porgy isn't as pure as the driven snow.

That doesn't mean Treyvon didn't earn his halo. Let the jury decide, thanks.


I agree with you in principle. But I can't help but highlight the fact that one is dead and one is alive and can speak for himself.

Justice must be served, but that introduces some fundamental problems.
 
2012-04-27 02:53:15 PM  

Dogberry: keylock71: Isn't his daddy a retired judge, too?

He was a magistrate, not a judge. It's not a well-paying job (not minimum wage or anything, but not big money).


Link


$150,000 a year isn't a well-paying job?
 
2012-04-27 02:55:12 PM  
Remember all those people who said he'd never get much in donations?

Good times.
 
2012-04-27 03:10:27 PM  

Bunnyhat: Dogberry: keylock71: Isn't his daddy a retired judge, too?

He was a magistrate, not a judge. It's not a well-paying job (not minimum wage or anything, but not big money).

Link


$150,000 a year isn't a well-paying job?


From 2008, but still fairly accurate:
"The salary range for full-time magistrates now is $34,242 to $54,588, with chief magistrates making $39,678 to $63,237. The starting salary proposed for new magistrates would have been $48,440, and magistrates licensed to practice law would have been paid at least $63,036.
Chief magistrates who are not lawyers would have started at $69,765, and those with law licenses would have been paid $77,517."

Link
 
2012-04-27 03:13:47 PM  

Bunnyhat: $150,000 a year isn't a well-paying job?


It's not in the 1% so I guess - no, it's not a "well-paying" jorb.
 
2012-04-27 03:22:32 PM  

Diogenes: ThisIsNotSubtle: Any bets on how many lawyers Zimmerman goes through before this is all over?

O'Mara is/was one of the local news station's legal correspondents. A week before Zimmerman turned himself in, he was saying on the news how this case is a loser (good bad or indifferent) and didn't know why anyone would take the case. A week later Zimmerman's legal team bails (undertandably) and O'Mara's on the case.

I agree that in our system everyone deserves an adequate defense. But really?


He's probably in it for the inevitable book deal.
 
2012-04-27 03:47:41 PM  
Clearly this is Trayvon's fault, as George Zimmerman would never lie about anything.



//The first attorney told him not to take donations and this is one of the reasons he quit.
 
2012-04-27 03:51:13 PM  

eurotrader: The point of a bond amount is to insure the accused shows up to court. The person is still presumed innocent and bond amounts are not supposed to be punitive. I doubt very much Zimmerman set up the PayPal account, his attorney on the other hand wants to be paid. If he was not overcharged there would be a question of excessive bond already.


O'Mara is doing the case pro bono. Zimmerman set up this account before O'Mara was his attorney and it was reported in the media before O'Mara became his attorney.

Something is definitely not right here
 
2012-04-27 04:01:26 PM  
Only 50K???

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2012-04-27 04:02:13 PM  
Skittles and KY.
 
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