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(The New York Times)   Hyman Strachman, an 92 year old World War II veteran, is one of the United States most prolific movie pirates, sending free copies of recent new release movies to our troops overseas   (nytimes.com) divider line 184
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2012-04-27 11:44:29 AM  
Why is this arch-criminal not being sued for the millions the studios have lost because of his criminal acts. Age and purpose shouldn't matter to them.
 
2012-04-27 11:50:55 AM  
Has he ever bootlegged Up? Because I'm pretty sure being the lead actor in the movie would give him some leeway on copying it.
 
2012-04-27 11:57:27 AM  
this is RIAA's worst nightmare. they HAVE to go after this guy now. they cannot let him get away with this. but...if they DO go after him, the backlash would be EPIC!
 
2012-04-27 12:38:27 PM  
Howard Gantman, a spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America, said he did not believe its member studios were aware of Mr. Strachman's operation. His sole comment dripped with the difficulty of going after a 92-year-old widower supporting the troops.

"We are grateful that the entertainment we produce can bring some enjoyment to them while they are away from home," Mr. Gantman said.


That's hilarious.
 
2012-04-27 01:02:01 PM  

EatHam: Howard Gantman, a spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America, said he did not believe its member studios were aware of Mr. Strachman's operation. His sole comment dripped with the difficulty of going after a 92-year-old widower supporting the troops.

"We are grateful that the entertainment we produce can bring some enjoyment to them while they are away from home," Mr. Gantman said.

That's hilarious.


you can imagine the MPAA guy cutting himself with a dull knife while replying to the reporter's question
 
2012-04-27 01:25:49 PM  
We used to buy bootleg "Hajj Movies" from the bazaar on our FOB. Some of the locals were allowed to set up shops, and it was mostly bootleg DVDs, cell phones, fake Cuban cigars, fake AK-47 bayonets, rugs, and hookahs. You could usually get a new release within a week of it coming out in the States, for a $1, complete with fake covers, filled with typos, or copypasta'ed from an entirely different movie.

I remember some dudes watching one of the Saw movies that was months from being released. There was some shots that weren't even finished with the Green Screen visible in the background.

A buddy of mine got every Disney movie made in the last 75 years (including Song of the South) in some big box set for like $25 bucks. Good quality, too.
 
2012-04-27 01:33:55 PM  
Considering that most 92 year olds can't figure out how to turn off the left turn signal on their computer -this is very impressive.
 
2012-04-27 02:08:23 PM  
FTA..


"If I were younger," he added, "maybe I'd be spending time in the hoosegow."

If you were any older, they'd call it a calaboose.
 
2012-04-27 02:09:58 PM  

oldernell: Why is this arch-criminal not being sued for the millions the studios have lost because of his criminal acts. Age and purpose shouldn't matter to them.


Exactly. Those factors should only come into play during sentencing. Although... old guy could be completely whacko and let off the hook. But to choose to not prosecute him? Heh. Heh heh heh.

/damn this could turn out to be hilarious as all getout
 
2012-04-27 02:10:25 PM  
That guy is seriously a fantastic person.
 
2012-04-27 02:14:45 PM  

Sgt Otter: We used to buy bootleg "Hajj Movies" from the bazaar on our FOB. Some of the locals were allowed to set up shops, and it was mostly bootleg DVDs, cell phones, fake Cuban cigars, fake AK-47 bayonets, rugs, and hookahs. You could usually get a new release within a week of it coming out in the States, for a $1, complete with fake covers, filled with typos, or copypasta'ed from an entirely different movie.

I remember some dudes watching one of the Saw movies that was months from being released. There was some shots that weren't even finished with the Green Screen visible in the background.

A buddy of mine got every Disney movie made in the last 75 years (including Song of the South) in some big box set for like $25 bucks. Good quality, too.


I remember watching Iron Man in Saudi the day after it was released. For some odd reason, the portion where the terrorists were talking was subtitled in spanish. Pissed off the guys who didn't habla. There were always plenty of copies of the new releases, but like you said, usually not good quality.
 
2012-04-27 02:16:12 PM  
this is awesome, its the perfect storm of pissing off all sides of the political/entertainment/business spectrum and yet, none of them will even think of doing anything about it.

hero indeed
 
2012-04-27 02:16:12 PM  
Support the troops.
 
2012-04-27 02:17:23 PM  
My buddy was over in Iraq a few years back, I'd go to walmart and just stock up on cheap movies, and send it over to him in a care package with other stuff. The porn I dl'd was much more appreciative.
 
2012-04-27 02:23:46 PM  
Wow.

I'd say his balls are just that huge but he clearly wouldn't give a damn
 
2012-04-27 02:23:48 PM  
Someone should go to his home and help themselves to his flags and letters. I'm sure he would be fine having his things taken away by total strangers.


Weaver95: this is RIAA's worst nightmare. they HAVE to go after this guy now. they cannot let him get away with this. but...if they DO go after him, the backlash would be EPIC!


Simple,

Shut him down and provide free movies to the troops. AFTER the movies have come out on DVD.
 
2012-04-27 02:24:00 PM  
I heard Hyman is a pretty good soldier but is prone to breaking under pressure.
 
2012-04-27 02:25:10 PM  
Bullshiat. There's no way a 92-year-old can use a computer!

/Good for you Big Hy, give'em hell!
 
2012-04-27 02:29:00 PM  

T.M.S.: Someone should go to his home and help themselves to his flags and letters. I'm sure he would be fine having his things taken away by total strangers.


Weaver95: this is RIAA's worst nightmare. they HAVE to go after this guy now. they cannot let him get away with this. but...if they DO go after him, the backlash would be EPIC!

Simple,

Shut him down and provide free movies to the troops. AFTER the movies have come out on DVD.


Assuming you're not just some stupid troll, tell me what he's taking away from anyone?

Box office receipts? Nope. Guys in Afghanistan aren't going to the theater anyway.

Physical copies of the movies that the studios can't make money off of? Nope. Nothing was "taken away" as you put it.

So please tell me what has he "taken away" from anyone?
 
2012-04-27 02:29:02 PM  

T.M.S.: Someone should go to his home and help themselves to his flags and letters. I'm sure he would be fine having his things taken away by total strangers.


That is outright stealing, which is different than pirating.
 
2012-04-27 02:30:36 PM  

kobrakai: Assuming you're not just some stupid troll, tell me what he's taking away from anyone?


He's not a troll. He works in the entertainment industry.

I can also tell you from seeing how these threads go in the past that neither of you will win this argument.
 
2012-04-27 02:31:13 PM  
Any minute now and the MPAA is gonna bust that Hyman!
 
2012-04-27 02:32:13 PM  

T.M.S.: Someone should go to his home and help themselves to his flags and letters. I'm sure he would be fine having his things taken away by total strangers.



Copyright infringement =/= theft. The latter removes something from one person so that they cannot use it, the other copies the first person's thing and does not interfere with the original holder's unimpeded use. This guy isn't "taking away" anything, even profits, unless you're presuming that the soldiers in Iraq, but for having a pirated copy, would have bought the DVD legitimately anyway. And if you can "steal" profits, then any time any person gives you a used object that you would have bought new, they're "stealing" from the manufacturer.
 
mhd
2012-04-27 02:32:52 PM  
"I saw 'The Transformers' before it hit the States."

Fark the MPAA, this is a case for the ICC!
 
2012-04-27 02:33:14 PM  

LeroyBourne: My buddy was over in Iraq a few years back, I'd go to walmart and just stock up on cheap movies, and send it over to him in a care package with other stuff. The porn I dl'd was much more appreciative.


When I was in Baghdad in 2006, what I missed (and appreciated the most) was American TV - especially the "violent" stuff like The Shield and The Wire that, for some reason, we couldn't get on the cable system.

What we got on cable was the news in Saudi, Bollywood movies, Paki game shows, and horrible horrible movies made, apparently, in someone's garage for a budget of $5.

Every week I'd get a DVD from my son and another from my SO, filled with AVIs of the TV shows I liked. Rescue Me, Sunny in Philadelphia, and so on. Most of the guys in my group got something similar from back home.

Every evening, after "orders," we'd pile into the team room, set up the projector, pop a DVD full of AVIs in the laptop and pop a few beers.

So when I got home, I started doing the same thing. I'm still sending packages to Kabul but, thankfully, no longer send them to Iraq.

/the locals LOVED The Shield. Go figure . . .
 
2012-04-27 02:33:38 PM  
Although the most costly piracy now takes place online through file-sharing Web sites, the illegal duplication of copyright DVDs - usually by organized crime in Eastern Europe and China, not by retirees in their 90s in the American suburbs - still siphons billions of dollars out of the industry every year.

Does it? Pre-internet piracy I would see maybe one movie per year in theaters, maybe two.

These days I'll see one movie per year in theaters, maybe two.


The only difference is I'm watching shiat like Sex in the City with girls and things like Sons of Anarchy and Walking Dead which I'd never pay a bent penny for because one you pay for cable it's on TV for free.
 
2012-04-27 02:34:31 PM  
It's ok. Senior citizens are allowed to steal.

xfinity.comcast.net
 
2012-04-27 02:35:57 PM  

IMDWalrus: kobrakai: Assuming you're not just some stupid troll, tell me what he's taking away from anyone?

He's not a troll. He works in the entertainment industry.

I can also tell you from seeing how these threads go in the past that neither of you will win this argument.


Oh, I know. I just want to watch his mental gymnastics when he tries to argue that copyright violations equal theft.
 
2012-04-27 02:36:32 PM  
Hyman Strachman always makes movies for his partners. One by one, our old friends are gone. Death, natural or not, prison, deported. Hyman Strachman is the only one left, because he always made movies for his partners.
 
2012-04-27 02:40:49 PM  

kobrakai: Shut him down and provide free movies to the troops. AFTER the movies have come out on DVD.

Assuming you're not just some stupid troll, tell me what he's taking away from anyone?

Box office receipts? Nope. Guys in Afghanistan aren't going to the theater anyway.


While T.M.S. certainly doesn't need my help, you are a huge part of the troll problem, that is your stupid insistence that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll and you should call them out as troll.

T.M.S. may have more of a pro-Hollywood perspective than you, that's because that's his industry and he has enormous experience in it. And listening to him is interesting, enlightening and makes for good conversation.

Calling him a troll because his opinion runs counter to yours marks you as a arrogant, bullying dumbass.
 
2012-04-27 02:45:32 PM  
I live in fear of hard-assed 92 year olds.

The Depression and WWII raised some pretty tough mother-scratchers. I'm sure some of them won't let themselves die. They'll be like zombies but never-dead zombies, so they'll look pretty well put together. For zombies.
 
2012-04-27 02:49:13 PM  

kobrakai: IMDWalrus: kobrakai: Assuming you're not just some stupid troll, tell me what he's taking away from anyone?

He's not a troll. He works in the entertainment industry.

I can also tell you from seeing how these threads go in the past that neither of you will win this argument.

Oh, I know. I just want to watch his mental gymnastics when he tries to argue that copyright violations equal theft.


I don't have time today (too busy making stuff for you to steal)

I therefore declare you the winner. Today and for all time.

That said, I love this old man and what he has been doing. Given the chance I would help him run his bootleg machine. All I ever send to the troops is booze, books, food and porn.
 
2012-04-27 02:49:31 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: LeroyBourne: My buddy was over in Iraq a few years back, I'd go to walmart and just stock up on cheap movies, and send it over to him in a care package with other stuff. The porn I dl'd was much more appreciative.

When I was in Baghdad in 2006, what I missed (and appreciated the most) was American TV - especially the "violent" stuff like The Shield and The Wire that, for some reason, we couldn't get on the cable system.

What we got on cable was the news in Saudi, Bollywood movies, Paki game shows, and horrible horrible movies made, apparently, in someone's garage for a budget of $5.

Every week I'd get a DVD from my son and another from my SO, filled with AVIs of the TV shows I liked. Rescue Me, Sunny in Philadelphia, and so on. Most of the guys in my group got something similar from back home.

Every evening, after "orders," we'd pile into the team room, set up the projector, pop a DVD full of AVIs in the laptop and pop a few beers.

So when I got home, I started doing the same thing. I'm still sending packages to Kabul but, thankfully, no longer send them to Iraq.

/the locals LOVED The Shield. Go figure . . .


That's cool, I loved sending him stuff. I could imagine the wonder of getting things that he couldn't get over there, and he reciprocated by mailing me cohibas and other types of cuban cigars.
 
2012-04-27 02:52:53 PM  

Weaver95: this is RIAA's worst nightmare. they HAVE to go after this guy now. they cannot let him get away with this. but...if they DO go after him, the backlash would be EPIC!


Nah, better idea. Simply figure out how many movies he's sent to the troops and then apply it as a tax-deductible donation to the U.S. Military. What, like the IRS is going to come after them for providing free movies to the troops?
 
2012-04-27 02:59:47 PM  
Great story.
 
2012-04-27 03:02:41 PM  
"An ninety-two year old"?
 
2012-04-27 03:04:07 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I live in fear of hard-assed 92 year olds.

The Depression and WWII raised some pretty tough mother-scratchers. I'm sure some of them won't let themselves die. They'll be like zombies but never-dead zombies, so they'll look pretty well put together. For zombies.


Like the episode of Tales from the Darkside with Christian Slater and his grandfather that wouldn't admit he died.
 
2012-04-27 03:05:47 PM  
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...& send it to the troops overseas, would you?
 
2012-04-27 03:11:09 PM  
Is this the thread where pedants remind us that piracy isn't theft, and is therefore somehow more acceptable?
 
2012-04-27 03:12:43 PM  

schattenteufel: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 616x364]
...& send it to the troops overseas, would you?


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2012-04-27 03:12:58 PM  
MASSAPEQUA, NY

AWESOME! LONG ISLAND PRIDE!

"If I were younger," he added, "maybe I'd be spending time in the hoosegow."

My grandmother used to use the word 'hoosegow'.
 
2012-04-27 03:13:05 PM  

schattenteufel: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 616x364]
...& send it to the troops overseas, would you?


Screw you, I would if I could.
 
2012-04-27 03:13:32 PM  

T.M.S.: That said, I love this old man and what he has been doing. Given the chance I would help him run his bootleg machine. All I ever send to the troops is booze, books, food and porn


You do realize that neither of those are allowed for American troops on deployment right? Unless you're sending it to a specific person you know you're at best ensuring that it ends up in the hands of some unit commander or First Sergeant that will likely dispose of it or keep it for themselves.

If you are sending it to someone specific you are putting them at risk for a very heavy handed Article 15.

I'm sure the Joes appreciate what does get to them, and I'm glad to see you support the troops, but if you're actually sending both of those items you may want to be a bit careful.
 
2012-04-27 03:13:43 PM  

RoyBatty:
While T.M.S. certainly doesn't need my help, you are a huge part of the troll problem, that is your stupid insistence that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll and you should call them out as troll.

T.M.S. may have more of a pro-Hollywood perspective than you, that's because that's his industry and he has enormous experience in it. And listening to him is interesting, enlightening and makes for good conversation.

Calling him a troll because his opinion runs counter to yours marks you as a arrogant, bullying dumbass.


Totally agree. I want to jump in on the side of T.M.S. is obviously not a troll, I just disagree with him.
I understand where he's coming from and completely respect that, I just think it helps no-one's case by calling copyright infringement "theft". Call it what it is, and fight it as it is, rather than applying the wrong label and pretending it's something different. Pirating a movie on BitTorrent is fundamentally different than going to a store and shoplifting the same movie on DVD, and has attached to it a different variety of moral right or wrong.
 
2012-04-27 03:15:11 PM  
This is a serious question because I really don't know much about military life.

These CDs and DVDs are being delivered BY MAIL.
These soldiers are all gainfully employed.

Why can't they legally purchase DVDs?
 
2012-04-27 03:15:44 PM  

RoyBatty: kobrakai: Shut him down and provide free movies to the troops. AFTER the movies have come out on DVD.

Assuming you're not just some stupid troll, tell me what he's taking away from anyone?

Box office receipts? Nope. Guys in Afghanistan aren't going to the theater anyway.

While T.M.S. certainly doesn't need my help, you are a huge part of the troll problem, that is your stupid insistence that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll and you should call them out as troll.

T.M.S. may have more of a pro-Hollywood perspective than you, that's because that's his industry and he has enormous experience in it. And listening to him is interesting, enlightening and makes for good conversation.

Calling him a troll because his opinion runs counter to yours marks you as a arrogant, bullying dumbass.


Equating copyright infringement with theft is not an opinion, it is disingenuous bullshiat. Intentionally conflating terms is generally a wonderful method of trolling.
 
2012-04-27 03:19:24 PM  
That's a badass name.

Hyman Strachman.
 
2012-04-27 03:20:14 PM  

I Like Bread: Is this the thread where pedants remind us that piracy isn't theft, and is therefore somehow more acceptable?


Piracy isn't theft. Whether or not it's more acceptable is an entirely different issue.

Personally, I think that piracy in some circumstances is less acceptable than theft. To give an example, I once read a very compelling article from a Chinese academic arguing that high prices for Western software (i.e. a month's average wage to buy Windows) makes it ethical to pirate, and that forcing people to pay exorbitant prices for the basic underlying software that would allow them to compete in the modern world is imperialistic.

One area where I think that piracy is unquestionably unethical is when you have the money to buy a product, buying it will not damage your finances, you really want the product, and then choose not to because you can just pirate it for free. This is why I refuse to pirate most things; I can afford them, and it would be unethical to pirate them.

But I do think piracy is ethical when there is a market failure preventing me from legally gaining access to a product. I used to pirate episodes of QI, Stephen Fry's BBC quiz show, because they were completely inaccessible legally without going to Britain and either waiting until they came out on DVD or hoping I caught a rerun. There, I was 100% certain that the BBC lost no profits from my piracy.
 
2012-04-27 03:24:41 PM  
Will be remembered as one of history's greatest monsters. How dare he spit in the face of big business oligarchy? How DARE he?
 
2012-04-27 03:24:43 PM  

LeroyBourne: My buddy was over in Iraq a few years back, I'd go to walmart and just stock up on cheap movies, and send it over to him in a care package with other stuff. The porn I dl'd was much more appreciative.


It blew you?
 
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