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Smiths		2012-04-27 09:21:52 AM

Whoo! Round 2!

/this counts as my "Trayvon related greenlight"
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Doc Daneeka		2012-04-27 09:29:58 AM

After a dozen years out of the playoffs, this was still a positive step for that franchise. The question is whether they can build on it.

That arena sounded pretty raucous last night. Hopefully this season has finally generated a little fan interest down in south Florida.

DoBeDoBeDo		2012-04-27 09:38:39 AM

Stupid Sens ruined a perfect 5,6,7,8 seed second round in the East :(

Ham Sandvich		2012-04-27 09:41:17 AM

Much respect to Paul MacLean and his mustache. After getting the Sens got their asses kicked in the first game, he changed tactics and made it a lot closer than I thought it would be.

Professor Duck		2012-04-27 09:44:33 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: Stupid Sens ruined a perfect 5,6,7,8 seed second round in the East :(

No bottom 4 East, but now every seed number has one team through: 1 (NY), 2 (STL), 3 (PHX), 4 (NSH), 5 (PHI), 6 (NJ), 7 (WSH), and 8 (LA)

Still kinda fun

/PHI-LA Final

AdmirableSnackbar		2012-04-27 09:51:55 AM

Professor Duck: DoBeDoBeDo: Stupid Sens ruined a perfect 5,6,7,8 seed second round in the East :(

No bottom 4 East, but now every seed number has one team through: 1 (NY), 2 (STL), 3 (PHX), 4 (NSH), 5 (PHI), 6 (NJ), 7 (WSH), and 8 (LA)

Still kinda fun

/PHI-LA Final

OK, that's pretty cool. PHI-LA in the finals would be awesome for the revenge factor of Carter/Richards.

TheManofPA		2012-04-27 09:54:21 AM

Smiths: Whoo! Round 2!

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Doc Daneeka		2012-04-27 09:56:49 AM

I say Nashville-Rangers final, with Nashville winning in 6.

LucklessWonder		2012-04-27 10:00:25 AM

Caps-Blues final. Caps in 7

/Delusional

Smiths		2012-04-27 10:02:33 AM

TheManofPA: Smiths: Whoo! Round 2!

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i liked Lindros, dammit. but then i fell out of touch with Hockey for a bit and didn't hear about concussion and life after his initial Flyers years.

Rev.K		2012-04-27 10:06:49 AM

Doc Daneeka: After a dozen years out of the playoffs, this was still a positive step for that franchise. The question is whether they can build on it.

That arena sounded pretty raucous last night. Hopefully this season has finally generated a little fan interest down in south Florida.

It did sound raucous, but did they make any money?

I do realize that getting the fans interested is probably more important, so if they were selling tickets last night at a loss that could be compensated by the uptick in fan interest.

The problem is that the next NHL season is six months away and the next possible Florida home playoff game is a shade under a year away.

That's an awful long time to sustain that interest in what was ultimately just a first round exit.

/Debbie Downer

Marshmallow Jones		2012-04-27 10:06:54 AM

Zach Parise bertween pds 2&3 with a 2-0 lead: 'We just gotta play our game and stay out of the penalty box'.
Devils take 3 penalties in the first few minutes of pd 3. Fla ties it. Derp.

Flyers in 5 unfortuantely.

Flyers-Preds final.

Preds in 6.

Yanks_RSJ		2012-04-27 10:07:32 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: Stupid Sens ruined a perfect 5,6,7,8 seed second round in the East :(

Yeah, but now we've got the Patrick Division playoffs in the East.

/Let's Go Rangers

EMCGuy		2012-04-27 10:14:24 AM

MugzyBrown		2012-04-27 10:18:24 AM

EMCGuy: would hate to see philly's goon squad

I'm curious who would be a goon on Philly these days?

Hartnell can be dirty, but not a head hunter or knee-to-knee guy like the Bruins/Pens

Rinaldo is an idiot but doesn't play much, and probably won't play anymore with JvR back.

That's about it.

AdmirableSnackbar		2012-04-27 10:22:35 AM

MugzyBrown: EMCGuy: would hate to see philly's goon squad

I'm curious who would be a goon on Philly these days?

Hartnell can be dirty, but not a head hunter or knee-to-knee guy like the Bruins/Pens

Rinaldo is an idiot but doesn't play much, and probably won't play anymore with JvR back.

That's about it.

I was wondering about that myself.

phyrkrakr		2012-04-27 10:22:49 AM

Marshmallow Jones: Zach Parise bertween pds 2&3 with a 2-0 lead: 'We just gotta play our game and stay out of the penalty box'.
Devils take 3 penalties in the first few minutes of pd 3. Fla ties it. Derp.

Flyers in 5 unfortuantely.

Flyers-Preds final.

Preds in 6.

The Bloos might have something to say about that, especially if PHO can make that series last a good long time. Rinne has a lot of miles on those wheels this season already, he has got to be getting tired.

I don't think the Kings can out-D the Bloos, but that series is going to be a snoozer when it comes to offense. I think it goes seven, they play 25+ periods, and a grand total of 10 goals are scored (both teams).

Smiths		2012-04-27 10:29:35 AM

EMCGuy: I would hate to see philly's goon squad in the final again

i concur with the above posters asking "what's the goon squad now"?

Carcillo was the goon squad. Good riddance to that rubbish.

Rinaldo dumbass and really you never heard about him until that dumb penalty and like someone said above, James Van Der Beek is back so he's off to Dawson's creek.

Hartnell? He just a strong guy. He's as much a thug as Malkin is. Can hold it and can be aggressive.

Time Traveling Bunnies		2012-04-27 10:31:08 AM

AdmirableSnackbar: OK, that's pretty cool. PHI-LA in the finals would be awesome for the revenge factor of Carter/Richards.

I've been thinking that since those Verizon commercials started airing.

If I wore my Flyers Richards sweater, does that guarantee us Game 7 OT?

Flappyhead		2012-04-27 10:40:57 AM

Rev.K: Doc Daneeka: After a dozen years out of the playoffs, this was still a positive step for that franchise. The question is whether they can build on it.

That arena sounded pretty raucous last night. Hopefully this season has finally generated a little fan interest down in south Florida.

It did sound raucous, but did they make any money?

I do realize that getting the fans interested is probably more important, so if they were selling tickets last night at a loss that could be compensated by the uptick in fan interest.

The problem is that the next NHL season is six months away and the next possible Florida home playoff game is a shade under a year away.

That's an awful long time to sustain that interest in what was ultimately just a first round exit.

/Debbie Downer

Not to mention the Caps will likely be stronger next year, so the Division title isn't a lock. Plus there's a handful of teams that could have(and in some cases should have) made the playoffs this year that didn't.

swahnhennessy		2012-04-27 10:42:46 AM

I was really hoping to see Florida advance, but, as has been mentioned, after such a long drought just getting there was pretty big. And while being close doesn't cut it, going to 2OT in game 7 gives them a lot to build on in the autumn.

kab		2012-04-27 10:43:24 AM

Smiths: EMCGuy: I would hate to see philly's goon squad in the final again

i concur with the above posters asking "what's the goon squad now"?

Carcillo was the goon squad. Good riddance to that rubbish.

Rinaldo dumbass and really you never heard about him until that dumb penalty and like someone said above, James Van Der Beek is back so he's off to Dawson's creek.

Hartnell? He just a strong guy. He's as much a thug as Malkin is. Can hold it and can be aggressive.

Pretty much this. I used to loathe the Flyers, but fact is that everyone on the team that made me dislike them is gone (aside from the douchebag VP). Briere can be a diver at times, but most teams have someone like that. Hartnell can play like an ass, but is also very entertaining to watch.

Captain Oates		2012-04-27 10:44:05 AM

If the Brodeur from the 2 periods of OT last night shows up next round and the Devils can get back to the regular season PK form then they should be able to take Phili. At the very least there is no way Marty plays worse than Fleury did for the Pens in round one while I'm not sure Bryzgalov will play much better than he did.

/NJ v WSH to decide the east, NSH v STL in the west

Wise_Guy		2012-04-27 10:47:30 AM

Rangers / Blues.

Rangers in 6.

Jubeebee		2012-04-27 10:48:32 AM

phyrkrakr: The Bloos might have something to say about that, especially if PHO can make that series last a good long time. Rinne has a lot of miles on those wheels this season already, he has got to be getting tired.

I don't think the Kings can out-D the Bloos, but that series is going to be a snoozer when it comes to offense. I think it goes seven, they play 25+ periods, and a grand total of 10 goals are scored (both teams).

I wouldn't be surprised if there are fewer than 20 goals scored in the entire WCSF.

MugzyBrown		2012-04-27 10:50:18 AM

Captain Oates: while I'm not sure Bryzgalov will play much better than he did.

Bryz had 1 bad game (which the whole team tanked). If you factor out that game he gave up just over 3 goals per game.

In fact, if you factor out the awful game 4, he held the Pens a bit under their season average per game.

Obviously he needs to do a bit better, but he didn't really shiat the bed.

Marshmallow Jones		2012-04-27 10:51:28 AM

Wise_Guy: Rangers / Blues.

Rangers in 6.

right - the guys who got taken to the brink against a team who backed into the playoffs in game 81.

Doc Daneeka		2012-04-27 10:55:13 AM

Marshmallow Jones: Wise_Guy: Rangers / Blues.

Rangers in 6.

right - the guys who got taken to the brink against a team who backed into the playoffs in game 81.

Once each round is over, forget about it. It's a clean slate in the next round.

Boston got taken to the brink in Game 7 OT in the first round against a mediocre Montreal team last season. Then they swept the next round and were on their way to a Cup.

GavinTheAlmighty		2012-04-27 10:55:20 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: Stupid Sens ruined a perfect 5,6,7,8 seed second round in the East :(

I blame the refs for the crappy officiating in game six. Yeah I know it's a seven game series, but the reffing in the second period of game six was terrible and cost the Sens the game.

I don't really care who wins in the west, but I suppose out of all the teams in the east, either Washington or New Jersey. NJ-Phoenix would be great - either Shane Doan gets a ring or Brodeur gets his retirement ring.

Moosecakes		2012-04-27 10:55:29 AM

Doc Daneeka: After a dozen years out of the playoffs, this was still a positive step for that franchise. The question is whether they can build on it.

That arena sounded pretty raucous last night. Hopefully this season has finally generated a little fan interest down in south Florida.

If the local news using a college's logo instead of the pro team's is any indication, it hasn't.

Suck it panthers
Naw I'm kidding you guys are alright. Series was way more interesting than I expected and the fans have been a class act. One of a few series that didn't get ugly. Yormark is still an a-hole though.

Wooooo devils!

GavinTheAlmighty		2012-04-27 10:56:05 AM

Marshmallow Jones: right - the guys who got taken to the brink against a team who backed into the playoffs in game 81.

Philly made it to the playoffs in a SO in the last game in 2010, and they made it all the way to the finals.

MugzyBrown		2012-04-27 10:56:38 AM

GavinTheAlmighty: NJ-Phoenix would be great - either Shane Doan gets a ring or Brodeur gets his retirement ring.

I wonder if it's possible for a TV network to receive a negative rating.

That would be horrible. I don't know if you could fill a stadium with the number of fans from both teams.

Moosecakes		2012-04-27 10:57:22 AM

Rev.K: Doc Daneeka: After a dozen years out of the playoffs, this was still a positive step for that franchise. The question is whether they can build on it.

That arena sounded pretty raucous last night. Hopefully this season has finally generated a little fan interest down in south Florida.

It did sound raucous, but did they make any money?

I do realize that getting the fans interested is probably more important, so if they were selling tickets last night at a loss that could be compensated by the uptick in fan interest.

The problem is that the next NHL season is six months away and the next possible Florida home playoff game is a shade under a year away.

That's an awful long time to sustain that interest in what was ultimately just a first round exit.

/Debbie Downer

How do you sell tickets at a loss? That makes no sense. Any tickets sold makes money. Especially playoff tickets.

Funzo		2012-04-27 10:57:47 AM

WhiskeySticks		2012-04-27 10:57:56 AM

Smiths: Carcillo was the goon squad. Good riddance to that rubbish.

I think I've got to be one of the few that's happy he's in Chicago. Just hope he doesn't have another season ending injury next year.

With Chicago out, GO FLYERS!

Doc Daneeka		2012-04-27 10:58:02 AM

GavinTheAlmighty: DoBeDoBeDo: Stupid Sens ruined a perfect 5,6,7,8 seed second round in the East :(

I blame the refs for the crappy officiating in game six. Yeah I know it's a seven game series, but the reffing in the second period of game six was terrible and cost the Sens the game.

I don't really care who wins in the west, but I suppose out of all the teams in the east, either Washington or New Jersey. NJ-Phoenix would be great - either Shane Doan gets a ring or Brodeur gets his retirement ring.

Shane Doan probably deserves a ring more than any other player in the league. He's been a very good player for a long, long time, without much success to show for it. He's earned it.

Sometimes I root for teams because of players like that. That's why I was rooting for Tampa in the 2004 Finals. I wanted to see Dave Andreychuk finally get his name on the Cup.

MugzyBrown		2012-04-27 10:58:46 AM

Moosecakes: How do you sell tickets at a loss? That makes no sense. Any tickets sold makes money. Especially playoff tickets.

You do know it costs money to own and operate an arena for a live event, correct?

Flappyhead		2012-04-27 11:01:48 AM

Moosecakes:

How do you sell tickets at a loss? That makes no sense. Any tickets sold makes money. Especially playoff tickets.

Florida doesn't sell tickets, they give them away at Hooters.

Doc Daneeka		2012-04-27 11:04:04 AM

MugzyBrown: Moosecakes: How do you sell tickets at a loss? That makes no sense. Any tickets sold makes money. Especially playoff tickets.

You do know it costs money to own and operate an arena for a live event, correct?

The Panthers don't own the arena. It's owned by Broward County.

The cost of gameday operations is pretty negligible compared to ticket revenue, no matter how they're priced. And even if they gave all the tickets away for free, they still would have made money because of all the ancillary revenue streams in the arena (concessions, merchandise, etc.).

proteus_b		2012-04-27 11:04:54 AM

stl over la in 5
nash over phoenix in 5

new york over washington in 7
phillie over nj in 5

mainstreet62		2012-04-27 11:05:24 AM

Marshmallow Jones: Wise_Guy: Rangers / Blues.

Rangers in 6.

right - the guys who got taken to the brink against a team who backed into the playoffs in game 81.

They got taken to the brink because Ottawa is an excellent team and a few freak occurrences. They're still the #1 seed.

As far as backed into the playoffs, you're not giving Ottawa enough credit. They played extremely well for a #8 seed. They played more like a #2 or #3 seed.

Moosecakes		2012-04-27 11:05:46 AM

MugzyBrown: Moosecakes: How do you sell tickets at a loss? That makes no sense. Any tickets sold makes money. Especially playoff tickets.

You do know it costs money to own and operate an arena for a live event, correct?

Yes but what kind of idiot wouldn't be able to make money on a sold out playoff building? And the biggest expense (player salaries) is irrelevant in the playoffs.

Captain Oates		2012-04-27 11:08:39 AM

MugzyBrown: Capt

He had one game where he allowed less than 3 goals and the Devils took the matchup in the regular season. Obviously this is the playoffs and you can throw regular season out the window especially when playing a rival but I definitely give the edge to the Devils in this series.

/Devils fan, albeit difficult since I've been in NC for 8 years.

fatalvenom		2012-04-27 11:10:34 AM

Flappyhead: Moosecakes:

How do you sell tickets at a loss? That makes no sense. Any tickets sold makes money. Especially playoff tickets.

Florida doesn't sell tickets, they give them away at Hooters.

Hooters sucks.

mainstreet62		2012-04-27 11:10:49 AM

Philly is going to flop vs. New Jersey, simply because the Swiss cheese that was in front of goal for the Penguins has now been replaced by actual goaltending.

2wolves		2012-04-27 11:10:58 AM

Hours and hours and hours and hours of hockey.

I'm ok with this.

2wolves		2012-04-27 11:12:10 AM

mainstreet62: Philly is going to flop vs. New Jersey, simply because the Swiss cheese that was in front of goal for the Penguins has now been replaced by actual goaltending.

He had ONE good period. One.

GavinTheAlmighty		2012-04-27 11:12:59 AM

Doc Daneeka: Shane Doan probably deserves a ring more than any other player in the league. He's been a very good player for a long, long time, without much success to show for it. He's earned it.

Sometimes I root for teams because of players like that. That's why I was rooting for Tampa in the 2004 Finals. I wanted to see Dave Andreychuk finally get his name on the Cup.

I do the same thing, or if I'm not rooting for the team, I'm happy for them, like when Selanne won with Anaheim in 2007.