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(CBS News)   Only 13% of Americans now have high cholesterol, other 87% now running on pure saturated fat   (cbsnews.com) divider line 9
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2012-04-27 03:47:58 PM  
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unlikely: [CSB]
Conversation with my doctor:

Doc: I'd like to talk to you about your cholesterol.
Me: What? I fence four nights a week, I swim at least two mornings a week, and I...
Doc: It's not quite what I mean. Your LDLs are good, only 87.
Me: That sounds high, actually, but ok... why are you concerned then?
Doc: Your HDL is pretty low. 47. It's not in the danger zone but I'd like to see it above 60 or so.
Me: Um... how do I do that?
Doc: Eat more fish.
Me: I'm allergic to fish. You're the one that ran the test.
Doc: Oh yeah, I forgot. And most of the Omega-3 supplements have at least some fish-derived oils... better safe than sorry.
Me: So I'm screwed?
Doc: Well... I don't normally recommend this, but do you drink alcohol?
Me: Remarkably little. A glass of wine on special occasions sometimes?
Doc: You need to think about starting. A glass of wine is good, red wine has other benefits too. But for this any alcohol will do. One drink a day minimum from now on.
Me: Seriously?
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Has your doctor ever heard of flax? Flax has a ton of omega 3s, not as good quality as the ones found in fish, but it is a decent alternative.
2012-04-27 03:44:14 PM  
1 votes:

entropic_existence: And now there is a lot of data accumulating that seems to pretty convincingly show that it is definitely not true at all. That doesn't mean a high fat diet is good for you of course, but the cholesterol hypothesis needs to be put to sleep.


Pretty much. Considering that we now know that cholesterol is a damage control mechanism for the circulatory system, it's a bit like saying that band-aids cause cut fingers, and then banning all the band-aids so no one gets cut. It's easy to see how we got to a place where band-aids and cut fingers were definitely related, but it's unfortunate that the causal relationship has just been assumed.

And that's why I love this graph:
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2012-04-27 03:39:09 PM  
1 votes:
My great grandparents fried everything in lard and lived on fatty pork fat salted meat greasy fat and both lived to be over 100. Of course they also worked hard every single day from daylight to dark, no televisions or computer farmville machines back then. They also raised their own food, I'm sure not having it filled full of chemicals helped a lot.
2012-04-27 03:28:48 PM  
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Humean_Nature: From TFA: Too much total cholesterol is a risk for heart disease.

Except that it isn't. Not only has this scientific misconception been repeated over and over for six decades, but the article itself notes that a 13% high cholesterol rate is out of step for a country full of fatties with weak hearts.


Came in to say this. The, shall we call it "Cholesterol Hypothesis" was never shown with convincing data to be true. It was a reasonable hypothesis that went from Cholesterol -> Artherosclerosis -> Heart Disease but IIRC it came originally from some pretty limited data. It got put forward and doctors latched on to it. For decades it has been taught in med school as fact and somehow it just became accepted as such, despite never really being proven.

And now there is a lot of data accumulating that seems to pretty convincingly show that it is definitely not true at all. That doesn't mean a high fat diet is good for you of course, but the cholesterol hypothesis needs to be put to sleep.
2012-04-27 02:38:32 PM  
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BKITU: I don't do drugs. I drink in moderation. I don't philander. I pay all our bills on time. I save for the future. I don't gamble money we can't afford to lose.


I'm so sorry to hear that, I hope you get better.

/hugs
2012-04-27 02:36:14 PM  
1 votes:
I am in excellent physical shape and my total cholesterol is about 230. There's no history of heart disease in my family, therefore I do not care one bit. There is no evidence that total cholesterol levels are predictive of anything.
2012-04-27 01:04:00 PM  
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I don't do drugs. I drink in moderation. I don't philander. I pay all our bills on time. I save for the future. I don't gamble money we can't afford to lose. I am, however, helpless in the presence of shiat like Slim Jims and potato chips. Fats and salt are like crack to me.

Now, if I'm being a good boy and eating Real Food -- basically stuff from the outside aisles at the grocery store -- my total cholesterol is in the 160-180 range. And I eat a metric farkton of bacon and eggs and real butter. Like I said: fats and salts. But I also eat my veggies and have a salad most days for lunch.

It's when I get sloppy and start ordering pizza and going to Jack in the Box and getting boxed convenience dinners all the time that my cholesterol gets fuggered up. When I'm doing that, my cholesterol jumps 50-60 points.

Processed junk and trans fats, man. That's the bugaboo. Eat real food. Avoid fast food french fries. You can eat tasty, fatty, salty stuff, but make sure it's actual food first.
2012-04-27 12:19:28 PM  
1 votes:
From TFA: Too much total cholesterol is a risk for heart disease.

Except that it isn't. Not only has this scientific misconception been repeated over and over for six decades, but the article itself notes that a 13% high cholesterol rate is out of step for a country full of fatties with weak hearts.
2012-04-27 11:16:34 AM  
1 votes:
And yet, half the country blows a disgustingly fat gasket when the First Lady suggests eating healthy.
 
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