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2012-04-27 08:48:28 AM
It's good to know he's out there. Rollins. Keeping it clean and pure for all us sinners.
 
2012-04-27 08:48:44 AM

Sudlow: How is this different from any other cliched motivational presentation? Pick your goal, stick with it and work hard. It's well said, but I've heard this a hundred times before.


Let's put it this way, when HE preaches the "bootstrappy" I actually listen because he did it and isn't a "I got mine" dick about it.
 
2012-04-27 08:49:53 AM

skinnycatullus: Did you intentionally miss the point or are you just a moron?


Of course money doesn't come from the government or someone else's pocket. It comes from your CEO 'rents that paid your way through life because they "earned" 400 times normal wages and paid taxes on .007% of it. Someone has to white knight that shiat... That 17 year old deserves that new SL or Carrera. fark, he graduated didn't he?
 
2012-04-27 08:53:53 AM

KiplingKat872: Sudlow: How is this different from any other cliched motivational presentation? Pick your goal, stick with it and work hard. It's well said, but I've heard this a hundred times before.

Because it's from someone who actually did it though a lot of hardship, who was seen as being *very* counter culture. From Black Flag he started self publishing his own and later other artists books (he started by selling his own books out of his backpack) and created his own company.

Rollins kicks ass, I've seen his spoken word performance in a small venue and just the energy was intense. He is ferociously intelligent (and self educated, he only attended one semester of college), usually self aware and self effacing, funny, profound, irreverent, and eloquent. He is just a remarkable person.


I like Henry Rollins, and I agree that he's an intelligent guy, but his "spoken word" shiat is about as lame as anyone else's "spoken word" shiat.
 
2012-04-27 08:54:57 AM

topcon:

I like Henry Rollins, and I agree that he's an intelligent guy, but his "spoken word" shiat is about as lame as anyone else's "spoken word" shiat.


Well, with a "topCON" sign-on I would expect that opinion.
 
2012-04-27 08:55:40 AM

Burr: So I am really getting a kick really .


hmm...is that filtered? I just did a copy/paste of the original

"So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies."
 
2012-04-27 08:56:05 AM

Sudlow: How is this different from any other cliched motivational presentation? Pick your goal, stick with it and work hard. It's well said, but I've heard this a hundred times before.


Did the message stick?
 
2012-04-27 08:57:04 AM
topcon:

Sorry, that was an unjust knee jerk reaction. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

I feel like his spoken word manages to avoid that usual pretentiousness of most spoken word work, while hitting some very hard truths.
 
2012-04-27 08:58:56 AM

topcon: I like the one where he attacks a filthy hipster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIhyZaA8yqo

Link


Hrm. I sorta tried to like the headline vid, but after watching this it's confirmed he's just an elitist condescending prick. Which is funny, cause he's trying to make fun of elitist pricks. No, but seriously he does come across as a pretentious "I know more than you" douchebag.
 
2012-04-27 09:01:19 AM

KiplingKat872: topcon:

I like Henry Rollins, and I agree that he's an intelligent guy, but his "spoken word" shiat is about as lame as anyone else's "spoken word" shiat.

Well, with a "topCON" sign-on I would expect that opinion.


Um, yeah. Fairly certain it doesn't mean what you think it does. Might want to read my profile if you think it means "conservative," because it doesn't.

http://global.topcon.com/

Link

And Henry Rollins spoken word is still shiat.
 
2012-04-27 09:01:39 AM
Had the chance to hang out with him a couple of times. Smart guy, Interesting career and a lot of good work, but often can be an insufferable prick. Arrogant and hostile. Should be a Farker.
 
2012-04-27 09:01:46 AM
Not really that age-specific. Pretty inspiring for old and middle-aged folks, too.
 
2012-04-27 09:03:19 AM

Conquistadork: Federal Reserve, not the government.


content.internetvideoarchive.com
 
2012-04-27 09:03:32 AM

bbcard1: It's this generation's Everybody's Free To Wear Sunscreen.


Came for this, Leaving satisfied
 
2012-04-27 09:03:47 AM

Sudlow: How is this different from any other cliched motivational presentation? Pick your goal, stick with it and work hard. It's well said, but I've heard this a hundred times before.


In this case, it's not a guy saying it who had any help doing so from family or backers, but lived it. Made mistakes. Picked himself up, and did it again. Made more mistakes, did dumb crap, and still got back up. The music came from that, not the other way around. The spoken word came from that, not the other way around. The books came from that, not the other way around. Not a "fame is a harsh mistress" tale, but a guy who's had to beat his own demons as much as anything else to make his way.
 
2012-04-27 09:07:53 AM

Spazmojack: Gunny Highway: I often wonder what D. Boon would be doing (besides rocking) if he was still alive.

Daniel Boone? You mean rocking a raccoon hat?


I always saw Daniel Boone as more Misfit than Minuteman.
 
2012-04-27 09:08:16 AM

Macular Degenerate: I just turned 40, so this video is clearly not for me.


Sure it is. You might not be able to pull all-nighters anymore, but you can still set a goal and work your ass off for it. That's what I took away from the video, anyway.

/Just turned 36 myself. Damned if I'm gonna hang it up when I hit 40.
 
2012-04-27 09:08:49 AM
This guy is a liar.
 
2012-04-27 09:13:41 AM
Saturday Night Live! Monday Night Football! Hill Street Blues! QUINCY!

Link

He's been preaching "get off your ass" for a long time now.
 
2012-04-27 09:14:08 AM

taurusowner: "They can go all the way through high school and not understand where a dollar comes from"

No kidding. There are people who have been out of high school for decades who still don't understand that.

\No, it's not from government
\\Or the pocket of someone else just because they have it and you want it


www.nationalconfidential.com

YOU GO GIRL!
 
2012-04-27 09:15:10 AM
Testify Henry.

Testify.
 
2012-04-27 09:30:00 AM
I didn't install whatever plugin was need bu from the comments it sounded like a rah, rah go for the gold live your dream et el.

Remember, for every successful venture, there are thousands of failures.

Remember, viciousness and sadism play a very big role in making it to the 'top'.

Remember, to get to the top you must be willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING.

Remember, in the very unlikely event you make it BIG in the world, don't look too closely at what you've become.
 
2012-04-27 09:32:52 AM
Rollins is the Anti-Nugent.
 
2012-04-27 09:33:32 AM
I like him quite a bit. Caught one of his shows several years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

That being said, this video put forth ideas that were overly simplistic and optimistic. To the point of being quite unrealistic. Humans will always fight and be a*holes to one another. We are just apes with big enough brains to think up more awesome ways of fighting. It's in our nature to be adversarial. World peace and a worldwide singing of Kumbaya are never going to happen. And he's sort of going for the whole 'if you put your mind to it, you can do it' cliche. No, no you can't.

Pretty pictures though.
 
2012-04-27 09:35:48 AM

Gunny Highway: I often wonder what D. Boon would be doing (besides rocking) if he was still alive.


I was just coming to post this...
 
2012-04-27 09:36:06 AM

Silly Jesus: I like him quite a bit. Caught one of his shows several years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

That being said, this video put forth ideas that were overly simplistic and optimistic. To the point of being quite unrealistic. Humans will always fight and be a*holes to one another. We are just apes with big enough brains to think up more awesome ways of fighting. It's in our nature to be adversarial. World peace and a worldwide singing of Kumbaya are never going to happen. And he's sort of going for the whole 'if you put your mind to it, you can do it' cliche. No, no you can't.

Pretty pictures though.


Dont you think you are being overly simplistic and pessimistic?
 
2012-04-27 09:38:27 AM

Gunny Highway: Silly Jesus: I like him quite a bit. Caught one of his shows several years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

That being said, this video put forth ideas that were overly simplistic and optimistic. To the point of being quite unrealistic. Humans will always fight and be a*holes to one another. We are just apes with big enough brains to think up more awesome ways of fighting. It's in our nature to be adversarial. World peace and a worldwide singing of Kumbaya are never going to happen. And he's sort of going for the whole 'if you put your mind to it, you can do it' cliche. No, no you can't.

Pretty pictures though.

Dont you think you are being overly simplistic and pessimistic?


No.
 
2012-04-27 09:41:18 AM
encrypted-tbn2.google.com

Hero huh?
 
2012-04-27 09:43:07 AM

Sudlow: How is this different from any other cliched motivational presentation? Pick your goal, stick with it and work hard. It's well said, but I've heard this a hundred times before.


So, you didn't really listen.

There is more to it than "work hard and be positive. A big part of the point was that, yes, there are a lot of people who have it all and do not appreciate it. But you cannot focus on them, and wallow in self pity. You just acknowledge that life isn't fair and you are going to have to work harder than they do just to get to the same place.

If you don't see the difference between acknowledging that issue frankly and honestly, I don't know what to tell you.
 
2012-04-27 09:45:58 AM

Silly Jesus: Gunny Highway: Silly Jesus: I like him quite a bit. Caught one of his shows several years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

That being said, this video put forth ideas that were overly simplistic and optimistic. To the point of being quite unrealistic. Humans will always fight and be a*holes to one another. We are just apes with big enough brains to think up more awesome ways of fighting. It's in our nature to be adversarial. World peace and a worldwide singing of Kumbaya are never going to happen. And he's sort of going for the whole 'if you put your mind to it, you can do it' cliche. No, no you can't.

Pretty pictures though.

Dont you think you are being overly simplistic and pessimistic?

No.


I do.
 
2012-04-27 09:48:09 AM

SharkTrager: Sudlow: How is this different from any other cliched motivational presentation? Pick your goal, stick with it and work hard. It's well said, but I've heard this a hundred times before.

So, you didn't really listen.

There is more to it than "work hard and be positive. A big part of the point was that, yes, there are a lot of people who have it all and do not appreciate it. But you cannot focus on them, and wallow in self pity. You just acknowledge that life isn't fair and you are going to have to work harder than they do just to get to the same place.

If you don't see the difference between acknowledging that issue frankly and honestly, I don't know what to tell you.


Point ...................................................................... . You

Some of us have been around long enough to hear the exact same message, delivered slightly differently, hundreds of times. It's all feely-goody, but pointless. People listen, people gush about it, people go right on doing what they have always done. Nothing really changes, as the counter-culture movement of the 1960s proves.
 
2012-04-27 09:48:11 AM

hitlersbrain: I didn't install whatever plugin was need bu from the comments it sounded like a rah, rah go for the gold live your dream et el.

Remember, for every successful venture, there are thousands of failures.

Remember, viciousness and sadism play a very big role in making it to the 'top'.

Remember, to get to the top you must be willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING.

Remember, in the very unlikely event you make it BIG in the world, don't look too closely at what you've become.


THIS

I'm 35 & I've never had monastic focus on anything.
I now work for a huge corporation. I have no desire to kiss ass to climb to the top.
That being said I like my job, and have no desire to go work for that struggling no profit or start that little corner shop that's in all the retirement commercials.

My goal for life. Get to the end of it.

How bleak you say?
Get motivated you say?

My dad died at 48. My uncle at 44. I never knew my paternal grandfather. My family tree shows that the last man with my last name to see his grandchildren alive died in 1840.
Nothing wrong with the end.
 
2012-04-27 09:48:44 AM

Gunny Highway: Silly Jesus: Gunny Highway: Silly Jesus: I like him quite a bit. Caught one of his shows several years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

That being said, this video put forth ideas that were overly simplistic and optimistic. To the point of being quite unrealistic. Humans will always fight and be a*holes to one another. We are just apes with big enough brains to think up more awesome ways of fighting. It's in our nature to be adversarial. World peace and a worldwide singing of Kumbaya are never going to happen. And he's sort of going for the whole 'if you put your mind to it, you can do it' cliche. No, no you can't.

Pretty pictures though.

Dont you think you are being overly simplistic and pessimistic?

No.

I do.


Congrats.
 
2012-04-27 09:49:42 AM
Not sure what it is about this guy that people love so much. It's a great message, but I've always found Rollins to be so over-the-top and obnoxious.
 
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2012-04-27 09:50:06 AM

Conquistadork: PonceAlyosha: taurusowner: \No, it's not from government

Actually, dollars do come from the government. They even print and distribute them! It's called minting, and is how money is made~!

Federal Reserve, not the government.


You think that is some sort of private company or something?
 
2012-04-27 09:50:57 AM
Why is this different from every other shmuck out there? Credibility.

This guy has seen some shiat.

I am the war you will never win.
 
2012-04-27 09:54:36 AM
This reminds me.
I'm about halfway through Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas. Just read the part about the wave cresting and rolling back.

Seems a much more realistic and hopeful picture of life. I hope I'm not too old to still experience a few days like that.

Just because you realize there is no final goal or 'someone tending the light' doesn't mean you're a dark cynic with a negative view of the world. I just don't believe in cliches, symbolism, nationalism, or the old college try.
 
2012-04-27 09:56:54 AM

Conquistadork: PonceAlyosha: taurusowner: \No, it's not from government

Actually, dollars do come from the government. They even print and distribute them! It's called minting, and is how money is made~!

Federal Reserve, not the government.


Everyone knows that the House of Representatives prints the money!
 
2012-04-27 09:57:23 AM

Jake Havechek: I've always thought Rollins was one of the good guys.

Even though it's fashionable and hipsterish to say that he sucks.


Yep. He's what got me started in spoken word.

We don't agree on everything, but he is a fiercely smart motherfarker and a hell of a public speaker. Black Flag wasn't too shabby, either, 'cept I'm more of a DK guy myself.

But, as said somewhere above, this won't really change much. I doubt that the kids who might benefit from his message even know who he is.
 
2012-04-27 10:01:04 AM
Been a Rollins fan for years and this clip is heartfelt and and true, but alas, after 41 years on this planet and ESPECIALLY in this poisonous "Reality" dynamic we live in now where people with no discernable talent are raised up as heroes and PAID HANDSOMELY for it, I have to agree with Silly Jesus
.

Humans will always fight and be a*holes to one another. We are just apes with big enough brains to think up more awesome ways of fighting. It's in our nature to be adversarial. World peace and a worldwide singing of Kumbaya are never going to happen.

Yep. That's pretty much it.

People = Shiat
 
2012-04-27 10:04:44 AM
rindeee
Met Henry in 2007. Spent a couple of hours talking (being talked to, really...he's definitely one for monologue) by him. I was completely and totally unimpressed...

Why would you let a unimpressive person harangue you for two hours? Do you mean you heard his speech, then waited in line for an hour to get the book signed, then said hi?
 
2012-04-27 10:07:07 AM

TappingTheVein: His spoken word shows are farking hilarious. Very recommended.



I got to see him on his 50th birthday, not long ago, at the National Geographic building in DC. Ian MacKaye introduced him, they had a little cake for him at the end, if memory serves... Great spoken word, very interesting and entertaining.

As I was walking home to the metro it struck me that Henry Rollins had just turned farking 50, and I'm an old man now too. :(
 
2012-04-27 10:07:43 AM

BenJammin: The anti-Nugent.


What Rollins vs Nugent may look like:

adamthinks.com

so very hot.
 
2012-04-27 10:07:45 AM

Conquistadork: PonceAlyosha: taurusowner: \No, it's not from government

Actually, dollars do come from the government. They even print and distribute them! It's called minting, and is how money is made~!

Federal Reserve, not the government.


Why does this misconception persist? The Fed is most assuredly a part of the United States Government, but it is a wholly independent agency. Their Board of Governors elects a chairman, who must be approved and nominated by the President and confirmed by Congress. The Fed is subject to Congressional oversight, though neither it nor the President can overturn their monetary policy decisions.

All money, in all countries, is ultimately derived from the governments. The government actually owns the money and we have license to use it to transact business.
 
2012-04-27 10:09:02 AM

Silly Jesus: That being said, this video put forth ideas that were overly simplistic and optimistic. To the point of being quite unrealistic. Humans will always fight and be a*holes to one another. We are just apes with big enough brains to think up more awesome ways of fighting. It's in our nature to be adversarial. World peace and a worldwide singing of Kumbaya are never going to happen. And he's sort of going for the whole 'if you put your mind to it, you can do it' cliche. No, no you can't.


I can only speak to the technical side of things, but IME progress comes from two sources: the you idealist who doesn't know any better, and the older realist who sets goals and works to achieve them..

I've been on both sides. When I was a kid, I lived on caffiene & games and worked 20-hour days on things that other people said were pointless or impossible. Came up with some cool stuff, had a blast doing it, and even made a few bucks. I didn't achieve even 10% of what I set out to do, but you know what? At least once, I did the impossible, and changed a playing field as the result.

Nowadays, I don't have that kind of energy, and worse yet, I find it hard to pour endless hours chasing something that probably won't work out anyway. But I know what I can do, and part of that is to build a company that gives the kids who work with me the stability, freedom, and incentive to do their own impossible and pointless projects.

So yeah, I'm old enough to know that worldwide peace and interstellar travel won't happen, but I'll continue to encourage those who haven't lived long enough yet to figure that out. After all, they're the ones who will eventually do something pointless or impossible, and things will get a little better because of it.

/that's my optimism for the day; now back to reality
 
2012-04-27 10:10:42 AM

PonceAlyosha: ! It's called minting, and is how money is made~!


Incorrect. That is only true in regards to minted coinage which is underneath the Treasury Department. If we're talking about physical paper cash, the Federal Reserve is tasked with printing it, and the US Treasury just loans it from them.

Then, if you're talking about "digital money". . . banks, under the fractional reserve system create money-in effect- because they can claim ten times their deposits. So, if you deposit one dollar, a bank effectively creates 9 digital dollars on top of that to make loans and investments with.
 
2012-04-27 10:14:24 AM
somewhat saddened. when i submitted this link, i hoped people would listen to the message, and be inspired to pass the lesson on. the video is not a political message, it is not a 'punk' message. it is sound, quality advice that an entire generation would do good to sit back, stop their panicky lives, and listen to. it is something that inspires me to want to inspire others. and yet, here we are, on this rinky dink corner of the internet and in a matter of hours managed to walk right past the message and focus on who said it. why they said it.

i dont care if henry rollins spoke these words, the fact is they are truth. and if you listened to the video and walked away with all this blathering drivel plastered to this thread, i feel sorry for you, and i apologize.

there is a reason i selected the 'Hero' tag for this video, and although they changed my headline to something that i guess is maybe an attempt to turn this into a parade of who can love or hate henry rollins sweepstake, i wanted people to listen and watch and be inspired. to focus on the author or the narrator is belittling to the message itself, and it saddens me.

the things in here don't apply to everyone, and he makes some generalizations that might come of as offensive to people who didn't struggle to get where they are. this isn't a message to attack those people, this is a message to inspire everyone who isn't one of those people. this is a message that growing up poor strengthens our character, that earning our education can define it, that having to fight for something can teach you how to believe in it.

and yet this community is worried about whether or not the narrator is an asshole or a genius.

he's both. get over it.
 
2012-04-27 10:14:49 AM

skinnycatullus: Conquistadork: Federal Reserve, not the government.

Umm, no.

Federal Reserve doesn't print money.


Yes it does. It doesn't mint coinage, but it prints ALL paper money. You can even look on the dollar bills to see which Fed branch printed your Federal Reserve note. It's on every denomination.

The Fed also sets reserve requirements for all US banks which effectively creates a purely digital money supply.

Now, if I'm not mistaken, the US Mint, is a bit of a different thing, which is where they make coins.
 
2012-04-27 10:14:57 AM
Punk isn't dead. It just goes to bed at a more reasonable hour, now.
 
2012-04-27 10:16:37 AM
40-somethings are worn down, pessimistic people in my experience.

/This is me being overly simplistic
 
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