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(CNN)   Hot teacher wants to be fruitful and multiply, forgoes the bang-a-student route and instead pursues IVF with her husband. Ends up fired by her Catholic employer. Bonus points: still hot. Lightning round: suing the diocese. (tag for the employer)   (cnn.com) divider line 422
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2012-04-27 03:21:56 AM
1. She IS hot

2. "Herx says the school's priest called her a "grave, immoral sinner" and told her she should have kept mum about her fertility treatments because some things are "better left between the individual and God," the complaint said."

But no, you do the punishing for god because his smiter must be at the shop for repairs. Control freaks.
 
2012-04-27 07:05:14 AM
I'd hit it so hard and so often there's no way she'd have to use IVF.
 
2012-04-27 08:42:19 AM
Freaking religions....

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2012-04-27 08:44:50 AM
BurnShrike: I'd hit it so hard and so often there's no way she'd have to use IVF.

So you would hit it like the fist of an angry god?
 
2012-04-27 08:45:27 AM
I wish her luck on her lawsuit, but the pessimist in me doesn't have high hopes.
 
2012-04-27 08:51:03 AM
How can anyone with a conscience still be Catholic? The church has gone utterly and completely mad

/I don't get it
 
2012-04-27 08:51:52 AM
antidisestablishmentarianism: BurnShrike: I'd hit it so hard and so often there's no way she'd have to use IVF.

So you would hit it like the fist of an angry god?


Not with my fist, although it's of a similar size.
 
2012-04-27 08:52:15 AM
Yeap, religion sure us a positive thing for this planet. They sure showed that whore.
 
2012-04-27 08:52:54 AM
SilentStrider: I wish her luck on her lawsuit, but the pessimist in me doesn't have high hopes.

Courts tend to frown upon firing someone for medical reasons. They also tend frown upon employers digging their noses into employees' medical care.
 
2012-04-27 08:57:03 AM
I'm afraid the only solution is for people to just stop working for anything involved with the Catholic Church.

Its sad, because they do some really good and important charity work around the world. But if they are going to be complete d-bags about stuff like this, then they don't deserve the workers they have.
 
2012-04-27 08:57:45 AM
It tickles me that with the ongoing abuse scandal that Catholic officials think we give a shiat about their opinion on anything.
 
2012-04-27 08:59:57 AM
Eleven days later, Herx said, she was notified that her contract at the school would not be renewed because of "improprieties related to church teachings or law."

Is a non-renewal of a contract the same as being fired?

/Also, don't work for a bigoted institution, dumbass.
 
2012-04-27 09:02:10 AM
stpauler: Eleven days later, Herx said, she was notified that her contract at the school would not be renewed because of "improprieties related to church teachings or law."

Is a non-renewal of a contract the same as being fired?

/Also, don't work for a bigoted institution, dumbass.


It's the polite way in schools to say you are fired so the next place you go to you don't have to explain being fired.
 
2012-04-27 09:03:26 AM
She is butthurt that she lost her job, and is now making a scene about her getting fired over this. I bet her lawyer is a moron telling her she has a case when she doesn't. She should have known that she would lose her job over this, its pretty clear what the church thinks of stuff like this. But hey, keep reaffirming the 1st amendment, its a good thing.
 
2012-04-27 09:06:33 AM
Thank God we don't have to worry about government bureaucrats getting between you and your doctor when we have priests that can do it instead.
 
2012-04-27 09:06:50 AM
DozeNutz: She is butthurt that she lost her job, and is now making a scene about her getting fired over this. I bet her lawyer is a moron telling her she has a case when she doesn't. She should have known that she would lose her job over this, its pretty clear what the church thinks of stuff like this. But hey, keep reaffirming the 1st amendment, its a good thing.

Do you know how many Catholics use birth control even though it's not allowed? She should sue, if the only way they can have a baby is by IVF then so be it. I'm sure you are just a troll but whatever. So God is saying she shouldn't have a baby yet Octomom can have 14.
 
2012-04-27 09:15:18 AM
So, if I have this correct...

The Catholic Church is upset with a woman having a child without having had sex?
 
2012-04-27 09:28:17 AM
I_Am_Weasel: So, if I have this correct...

The Catholic Church is upset with a woman having a child without having had sex?


LOL

Also:

And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
For with God nothing shall be impossible.
 
2012-04-27 09:30:52 AM
During the meeting, Herx says Kuzmich told her that it would have been better if she hadn't said anything about the treatments because they could cause a scandal.


Well you farked that one up Herx.

It's amazing how theose in charge of a religion are all that's wrong with the religion.
 
2012-04-27 09:31:24 AM
TNel: DozeNutz: She is butthurt that she lost her job, and is now making a scene about her getting fired over this. I bet her lawyer is a moron telling her she has a case when she doesn't. She should have known that she would lose her job over this, its pretty clear what the church thinks of stuff like this. But hey, keep reaffirming the 1st amendment, its a good thing.

Do you know how many Catholics use birth control even though it's not allowed? She should sue, if the only way they can have a baby is by IVF then so be it. I'm sure you are just a troll but whatever. So God is saying she shouldn't have a baby yet Octomom can have 14.


No one is saying she cant have IVF, her employer, which happens to be a religious institution, has the right to let her go because the 1st Amendment. Sorry if that makes you angry.
 
2012-04-27 09:33:41 AM
I_Am_Weasel: So, if I have this correct...

The Catholic Church is upset with a woman having a child without having had sex?


The copyright expired so they're worried that another person could do it. It's like the Roman version of Operation Clambake but without the sexiness of a Tom Cruise or a Kirstie Alley.
 
2012-04-27 09:44:16 AM
DozeNutz: , its pretty clear what the church thinks of stuff like this.

As her employer the school doesn't have any privilege to stick its nose into her medical goings on.
 
2012-04-27 09:48:25 AM
Herx says the school's priest called her a "grave, immoral sinner" and told her she should have kept mum about her fertility treatments because some things are "better left between the individual and God," the complaint said.

The story is beautiful in its irony. They didn't care she got treatments. They cared that she talked about them. (Mistake #1: punishing an employee for doing the right thing and giving full disclosure).

Now it's a lawsuit and even more people know about it, and are questioning the decision. (Mistake #2: If you want to keep something quiet, keep it quiet.)
 
2012-04-27 10:13:32 AM
Did anybody else have to sit through a minute of commercials to watch the video? Luckily there were already a lot of comments to read so I could do something else while the ads played on mute on the other tab.
 
2012-04-27 10:45:37 AM
I'm only a lawyer on the Internet, but doesn't this ruling pretty much doom her lawsuit?
 
2012-04-27 11:27:41 AM
Sybarite: I'm only a lawyer on the Internet, but doesn't this ruling pretty much doom her lawsuit?

Likely not, as she isn't a religious leader.
 
2012-04-27 11:28:44 AM
It's the same thing as contraception, the Catholic Church wants to be able to impose its beliefs on everyone, regardless of what their religion is. But don't you dare try to impose your beliefs on them, that's outrageous!
 
2012-04-27 11:28:48 AM
Diogenes: Herx says the school's priest called her a "grave, immoral sinner" and told her she should have kept mum about her fertility treatments because some things are "better left between the individual and God," the complaint said.

The story is beautiful in its irony. They didn't care she got treatments. They cared that she talked about them. (Mistake #1: punishing an employee for doing the right thing and giving full disclosure).

Now it's a lawsuit and even more people know about it, and are questioning the decision. (Mistake #2: If you want to keep something quiet, keep it quiet.)


Most likely, from what I read:
She wanted to take paid medical leave for the treatments. Like most businesses, you need a note/documentation from your doctor to do this. So you can't take medical leave and NOT tell them what it's for.
 
2012-04-27 11:28:55 AM
DozeNutz: TNel: DozeNutz: She is butthurt that she lost her job, and is now making a scene about her getting fired over this. I bet her lawyer is a moron telling her she has a case when she doesn't. She should have known that she would lose her job over this, its pretty clear what the church thinks of stuff like this. But hey, keep reaffirming the 1st amendment, its a good thing.

Do you know how many Catholics use birth control even though it's not allowed? She should sue, if the only way they can have a baby is by IVF then so be it. I'm sure you are just a troll but whatever. So God is saying she shouldn't have a baby yet Octomom can have 14.

No one is saying she cant have IVF, her employer, which happens to be a religious institution, has the right to let her go because the 1st Amendment. Sorry if that makes you angry.


What does the 1st amendment have to do with this?
 
2012-04-27 11:29:12 AM
the school's priest called her a "grave, immoral sinner" and told her she should have kept mum about her fertility treatments because some things are "better left between the individual and God,"

If only there was someone she could confide in for religious matters.
 
2012-04-27 11:29:14 AM
IVF is expensive. It's probably more about the OMG WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS? than anything else.
 
2012-04-27 11:29:22 AM
The "Followup" Tag is for the employer?
 
2012-04-27 11:29:40 AM
You can actually sue a religion you knew was crazy...for being crazy?!?!
 
2012-04-27 11:29:41 AM
WhyteRaven74: SilentStrider: I wish her luck on her lawsuit, but the pessimist in me doesn't have high hopes.

Courts tend to frown upon firing someone for medical reasons. They also tend frown upon employers digging their noses into employees' medical care.


Except this....

Eleven days later, Herx said, she was notified that her contract at the school would not be renewed because of "improprieties related to church teachings or law."
 
2012-04-27 11:29:49 AM
Sybarite: I'm only a lawyer on the Internet, but doesn't this ruling pretty much doom her lawsuit?

Unfortunately, this. And, unlike the plaintiff in the aforementioned case, Mrs. Herx wasn't fired. AFAIK any employer could decide not to renew an employment contract for any reason or no reason at all.
 
2012-04-27 11:30:18 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: How can anyone with a conscience still be Catholic? The church has gone utterly and completely mad stayed in the 4th century while the rest of the world's population has moved on.

FTFY
 
2012-04-27 11:30:32 AM
Gratch: What does the 1st amendment have to do with this?

Isn't the 1st amendment the one that guarantees you the right to free snatch?
 
2012-04-27 11:30:38 AM
i'm hot for teacher.
 
2012-04-27 11:30:46 AM
She was fired for joining the Israeli army?
 
2012-04-27 11:31:08 AM
I feel for her, but I don't think she's going to win the lawsuit.
 
2012-04-27 11:31:13 AM
PonceAlyosha: Sybarite: I'm only a lawyer on the Internet, but doesn't this ruling pretty much doom her lawsuit?

Likely not, as she isn't a religious leader.


But it is a private school and can fire people for any given reason. If it does go against what they believe. She does not have a case really.
 
2012-04-27 11:31:41 AM
I hope she brings home a holy grail full of money from this religious, self important, little boy diddling, emeffs.
 
2012-04-27 11:32:15 AM
yves0010: PonceAlyosha: Sybarite: I'm only a lawyer on the Internet, but doesn't this ruling pretty much doom her lawsuit?

Likely not, as she isn't a religious leader.

But it is a private school and can fire people for any given reason. If it does go against what they believe. She does not have a case really.


I think the church is stupid but I also think that this is what you set yourself up for when you let stupid sign your paycheck.
 
2012-04-27 11:32:15 AM
BurnShrike: Gratch: What does the 1st amendment have to do with this?

Isn't the 1st amendment the one that guarantees you the right to free snatch?


freaking canuck, acting like you understand america's bill of rights.

/it's the one that allows you slice the dick off your baby.
 
2012-04-27 11:32:18 AM
damn she is smoking hawt.
 
2012-04-27 11:32:30 AM
PonceAlyosha: Sybarite: I'm only a lawyer on the Internet, but doesn't this ruling pretty much doom her lawsuit?

Likely not, as she isn't a religious leader.


The employee in question in Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School v. EEOC wasn't a religious leader, either; she was a teacher.
 
2012-04-27 11:33:00 AM
Good thing the Virgin Mary didn't work for the Catholic Church.
 
2012-04-27 11:33:08 AM
the cathloic church is an abomination!
 
2012-04-27 11:33:09 AM
stpauler: Eleven days later, Herx said, she was notified that her contract at the school would not be renewed because of "improprieties related to church teachings or law."

Is a non-renewal of a contract the same as being fired?

/Also, don't work for a bigoted institution, dumbass.


THIS
 
2012-04-27 11:33:10 AM
ConConHead: IVF is expensive. It's probably more about the OMG WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS? than anything else.

You think the Catholic school was paying for the IVF? I love making up facts too!

Satanic_Hamster: Most likely, from what I read:
She wanted to take paid medical leave for the treatments.


Where did you read it was a paid medical leave? I mean, it might have been but I didn't see that anywhere.
 
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