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(Daily Mail)   Parents sue because their snowflake was kicked out of an honors English class after he was caught cheating. Fark: He had signed an Academy Honesty Pledge which warned that cheating was grounds for immediate removal from the class   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 200
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2012-04-27 12:18:15 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Bontesla: Uchiha_Cycliste: AverageAmericanGuy: Uchiha_Cycliste: AverageAmericanGuy: freewill: Uchiha_Cycliste: Anyone have any messages they would like to pass along?

"Dear sir,

Your child's high school performance is only marginally relevant to his future success. Even if he were to drop out completely, he could patch that over with a couple of years of hard work in a community college, and after a few years, nobody will even ask where he's from anymore, nevermind how he did in high school. You are humiliating him in a way that will leave a paper trail for the rest of his life, teaching him counterproductive values, and doing far more damage than could ever be done by letting him to study alongside the unwashed masses like a mere mortal.

Signed,

Some Guy on the Internet"

I absolutely agree. Though I thought you were a woman.

/Should have known better than to assume that

On a final note, if you don't want him getting kicked out of college for cheating, he will take this punishment and learn from it. Just because you are a litigious douche, doesn't mean he shouldn't be held liable for violations of code you admit he has undertaken.

Yup, I'll call the prick today and get back to you guys.

I don't agree with that, but let us know how the call goes!

Why not?
He's an attention whore, and a lawyer, and a bad daddy.
Why not call him and tell him he's handling this poorly?

If it's an absurd suit, the Courts will throw it out and fine the parents.

What if the suit is legitimate? What if we simply aren't given enough information in order to determine the facts?

The father and the son admit the cheating. The father is complaining "his son's due process was violated" It's BS through and through, he wants his kid not to be punished for having cheated.


If the legal issue isn't cheating then why is that what you're focusing on? Obviously their argument is more complex. The question is whether or not that complex argument has legal merit.

The Due Process argument would allow the student to say, "Yes, I admit that Joey and I worked together on this homework but I didn't realize that it was cheating. The pledge doesn't specifically say I cannot work with a friend - only that I cannot cheat. But, I understood that to mean that I couldn't use outside sources on exams. Every other teacher allows us to wor in groups and some even offer us to participate in an after school study group. No one said this would qualify as cheating. Further, you don't consider it cheating when we copy our answers from the book - how is using the book's language okay but a collective effort between me and my friend not ok?"
 
2012-04-27 12:18:49 PM

Bontesla: yves0010: Bontesla: yves0010: Bontesla: yves0010: Bontesla: TsarTom: Mr Berghouse never denied that his son cheated, and told MercuryNews.com that the sophomore is contrite.

Oh.
Well as long as he is contrite and all.

'He knows it's wrong,' he said. 'You cannot imagine the mental and emotional penalty that has been inflicted upon him.'

The poor feller sure sounds like he's suffered enough. I bet an ice cream cone would cheer him up, Dad.
Hey... extra sprinkles, huh? he's had a hard day.

There are some incredibly dangerous high school environments that often produce this type of result.

High schools in which suicides, fatal accidents triggered by exhaustion, and fatal overdoses on stimulants are the product of this hyper-competitiveness atmosphere.

Parental pressure, self-imposed pressure, and the school pressure to excel both inside the classroom and outside the classroom has become extremely dangerous for students.

Not true. There are plenty of relief in everything. I was under a lot of pressure at school, both High School and College. And I was under plenty of pressure being the youngest of 3 boys and having to make myself out do my two older brothers. But I always managed, even when the pressure was on, to take a "vacation" from school work and take time to relax. When you get into high school, you are old enough to know when you are cracking and need to just relax. And no, drugs are not the answer. I found resting, reading a book or watching a movie, depending on my mood for a comedy, action, horror and so forth. or even gaming or going out with friends was a great relief of stress. And always allowed me to come back to my work refreshed and more capable.

So, your personal experience completely disproves documentable instances in which some high schools become toxic to the student?

Good to know. . .

Please, The issue isn't the school but with the students themselves. When you are in your teens. You know when you need a break. To keep working and stress ...


For one, I am still in school. I am a college student who faces over work in both school and at my job. So I am still able to see and feel how it is to be a student. I am only in my mid 20s so I am not that old. I have balanced my life cause of my personal experience and learned quickly to do so. I have also been put in positions where, in a team of 2 or 3 other classmates, I do all the work for a huge project while writing a term paper for another class. I know how it feels to be over worked. But that is part of life. So my view point right now is that of a student and an adult.
 
2012-04-27 12:23:00 PM

Joce678: firesign: [bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com image 460x290]

Looks to me like somebody's been copying....

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 600x338]


I didn't realize till i google image searched it, but it looks like mine was originally in a foreign language (maybe Dutch?).
If they came out during the years they mention, then the foreign one is the original and your American cartoonist is the copycat. (possibly your original point.)
 
2012-04-27 12:23:11 PM
Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?
 
2012-04-27 12:24:46 PM

yves0010: The fact is, everyone does take things differently. But from what I viewed, from my experiences in high school and teaching at one. I can tell you that what you are saying is off base. Students are competitive but its to teach them about how to act in the real world. You compete for everything.


My own set of experiences leads me to believe that competitiveness in high school is a complete waste of otherwise perfectly good time and effort. The overachievers from my graduating class, the ones who took all the advanced placement classes and regularly deprived themselves of sleep trying to keep up with extracurriculars, are running cash registers and teaching driver's ed.

NTTAWT, honest work and all, but these are people who thought they were working so hard to become scientists and lawyers. From what I've seen, achievement in high school may correlate to achievement in adult life, but the link is not causal. In fact, I went to a community college to save money, and was surprised that they didn't even ask for my high school transcript when I transferred to a decent university program. For all anything that happened in high school has mattered in adult life, my real name could have been Dick Whitman and nobody would have known the difference.

We compete for things that are worth competing for. People who compete for everything end up destroying themselves. Whether it's a toxic environment or not, we're not doing kids any favors by lying to them about how important it actually is. Show up, get an A, participate in extracurriculars that you actually enjoy, and be content that you have done well.
 
2012-04-27 12:27:55 PM

KyDave: Bontesla: AverageAmericanGuy: Bontesla: I think the entire concept of working as if no one else exists is a terrible habit to develop. It's important to learn how to work with people who are smarter than you in some areas.

We are teaching kids poor real world skills.

I mentioned this upthread a bit.

Yeah, I think you made some good points upthread.

Have you seen the Sir Ken Robinson video on Changing Educational Paradigms? It's fairly short and quite brilliant.

Like-minded trolls, or Alternates.... you decide.
9/10 for consistent idiocy throughout the thread, AAG. It took a couple of pages to catch on -- nicely done.

/ Farking consequences, how do they work?


Not a troll. I'm openly an akt of Tantalea03 (also not a troll). Jumping to conclusions does not make you less of a troll or more credible. My only arguments were:

1. We don't have all the facts yet.
2. Our educational system is terrible.
 
2012-04-27 12:30:19 PM
1) sign the pledge
2) violate the pledge
3) school enfoirces the pledge
4) sue for profit

duh.
 
2012-04-27 12:30:32 PM

yves0010: Bontesla: yves0010: Bontesla: yves0010: Bontesla: yves0010: Bontesla: TsarTom: Mr Berghouse never denied that his son cheated, and told MercuryNews.com that the sophomore is contrite.

Oh.
Well as long as he is contrite and all.

'He knows it's wrong,' he said. 'You cannot imagine the mental and emotional penalty that has been inflicted upon him.'

The poor feller sure sounds like he's suffered enough. I bet an ice cream cone would cheer him up, Dad.
Hey... extra sprinkles, huh? he's had a hard day.

There are some incredibly dangerous high school environments that often produce this type of result.

High schools in which suicides, fatal accidents triggered by exhaustion, and fatal overdoses on stimulants are the product of this hyper-competitiveness atmosphere.

Parental pressure, self-imposed pressure, and the school pressure to excel both inside the classroom and outside the classroom has become extremely dangerous for students.

Not true. There are plenty of relief in everything. I was under a lot of pressure at school, both High School and College. And I was under plenty of pressure being the youngest of 3 boys and having to make myself out do my two older brothers. But I always managed, even when the pressure was on, to take a "vacation" from school work and take time to relax. When you get into high school, you are old enough to know when you are cracking and need to just relax. And no, drugs are not the answer. I found resting, reading a book or watching a movie, depending on my mood for a comedy, action, horror and so forth. or even gaming or going out with friends was a great relief of stress. And always allowed me to come back to my work refreshed and more capable.

So, your personal experience completely disproves documentable instances in which some high schools become toxic to the student?

Good to know. . .

Please, The issue isn't the school but with the students themselves. When you are in your teens. You know when you need a break. To keep working and stress ...

For one, I am still in school. I am a college student who faces over work in both school and at my job. So I am still able to see and feel how it is to be a student. I am only in my mid 20s so I am not that old. I have balanced my life cause of my personal experience and learned quickly to do so. I have also been put in positions where, in a team of 2 or 3 other classmates, I do all the work for a huge project while writing a term paper for another class. I know how it feels to be over worked. But that is part of life. So my view point right now is that of a student and an adult.


Your viewpoint also doesn't represent that of every student. That was my entire point.
 
2012-04-27 12:31:25 PM

KyDave: Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?


Not a troll. I just disagree with you.
 
2012-04-27 12:32:07 PM
Cheating is a great way to get ahead. But you should be aware that if you get caught you'll need to be made an example of. So, cheat if you can. But don't biatch if you get caught.
 
2012-04-27 12:36:35 PM
He doesn't need Honors English anyway.

He's obviously going to be a Wall Street businessman.
 
2012-04-27 12:39:03 PM

KyDave: Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?


It does look like you're trolling. Obviously dismissing other arguments allows you to remain a low-effort thinker.

It's amazing that someone arguing for more evidence is being called a troll. Do you own the pitchfork or are you renting?
 
2012-04-27 12:49:39 PM

Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?

It does look like you're trolling. Obviously dismissing other arguments allows you to remain a low-effort thinker.

It's amazing that someone arguing for more evidence is being called a troll. Do you own the pitchfork or are you renting?


Your points upthread may all be extremely valid. However, due to the price of tea in China, I still believe the lad should be bounced from the class.

Agree to pledege --> cheat --> bounced. duh
 
2012-04-27 01:06:38 PM

KyDave: Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?

It does look like you're trolling. Obviously dismissing other arguments allows you to remain a low-effort thinker.

It's amazing that someone arguing for more evidence is being called a troll. Do you own the pitchfork or are you renting?

Your points upthread may all be extremely valid. However, due to the price of tea in China, I still believe the lad should be bounced from the class.

Agree to pledege --> cheat --> bounced. duh


Your summary is absurdly narrow.

Son can admit to working with a friend without it being cheating IF this is otherwise considered acceptable behavior.
 
2012-04-27 01:11:53 PM
I can see a way the kid's dad could be right and the suit could be legit.

If the policy was unclear on whether working together on homework was allowed or not, the kid could have thought it was not cheating when he did it, but be aware now that it's considered cheating and feel terrible about it.

So instead of the kid cheated and got caught, you could have a case where the rules were unclear, the kid did not intend to cheat.

BUT

You still have the kid now in a headspace where, "He knows what he did was wrong and feels terrible about it."

If that's the case, and if there are indications that kids were working together before and the teacher knew or should have known and was turning a blind eye, and this new enforcement is a sudden reversal----yeah, the kid could be getting a raw deal.

So sure, this could be a case of a helicopter parent rescuing special snowflake kid from the consequences of the kid's bad behavior---or trying to.

Or, this could be a case where a good dad is backing his kid when a farked up system is genuinely giving the kid a raw deal.

We don't have enough information.
 
2012-04-27 01:16:28 PM

Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?

It does look like you're trolling. Obviously dismissing other arguments allows you to remain a low-effort thinker.

It's amazing that someone arguing for more evidence is being called a troll. Do you own the pitchfork or are you renting?

Your points upthread may all be extremely valid. However, due to the price of tea in China, I still believe the lad should be bounced from the class.

Agree to pledege --> cheat --> bounced. duh

Your summary is absurdly narrow.

Son can admit to working with a friend without it being cheating IF this is otherwise considered acceptable behavior.


FTA 'admited he cheated'. Narrow my azz.

Price of tea in China, indeed. KThxBai
 
2012-04-27 01:18:35 PM

KyDave: Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?

It does look like you're trolling. Obviously dismissing other arguments allows you to remain a low-effort thinker.

It's amazing that someone arguing for more evidence is being called a troll. Do you own the pitchfork or are you renting?

Your points upthread may all be extremely valid. However, due to the price of tea in China, I still believe the lad should be bounced from the class.

Agree to pledege --> cheat --> bounced. duh

Your summary is absurdly narrow.

Son can admit to working with a friend without it being cheating IF this is otherwise considered acceptable behavior.

FTA 'admited he cheated'. Narrow my azz.

Price of tea in China, indeed. KThxBai


Oh my goodness.

You've got to be a troll. No one can possibly be this dense.
 
2012-04-27 01:28:00 PM

KyDave: Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla: KyDave: Bontesla:
(snip)

+3 for continued trolling. Lots of bites today.

Coming up next, just exactly what is the definitiion of "is"?

It does look like you're trolling. Obviously dismissing other arguments allows you to remain a low-effort thinker.

It's amazing that someone arguing for more evidence is being called a troll. Do you own the pitchfork or are you renting?

Your points upthread may all be extremely valid. However, due to the price of tea in China, I still believe the lad should be bounced from the class.

Agree to pledege --> cheat --> bounced. duh

Your summary is absurdly narrow.

Son can admit to working with a friend without it being cheating IF this is otherwise considered acceptable behavior.

FTA 'admited he cheated'. Narrow my azz.

Price of tea in China, indeed. KThxBai


Okay, so not that you care since you're trolling, but the Mercury article (may have been linked upthread) also notes;

1. Son only admits to working with other students. He does not admit to cheating.
2. Pledge did not specify working in a small groupbis cheating
3. Inconsistent punishments for "cheating" (expelled @ first offense) and plagirism (actionable after 2nd).

So, not only is there a contention over whether or not he actually cheated but there is an objection as to whether or not the punishment fits the type of cheating he was accused of.

As I've argued: FACTS MATTER.
 
2012-04-27 01:40:25 PM

Mugato: What kind of a moron has to cheat on an English test?


Perhaps it's the same kind of moron who would make an assumption that he cheated on a test. He and a few other classmates copied their homework assignment. All were removed from the honors class.
 
2012-04-27 01:56:26 PM
I got caught up in a cheating ring in school and I did nothiong wrong. It was a basic computer programing class in a small classroom. I was not the best student but I was doing good. At the time of our final a girl behind me copied my work, It was a small classroom so we were packed in there. She was behind me to the left and had a good view of my monitor. So she copied everything did and her BF next to her copied her and his buddy next to him copied him. So I was pretty much snagged up questioned a lot, questioned some more. The thing that sucks the most was they froze my grades and my transcripts and I was trying to transfer at the time. So I was stuck in limbo until they finally figrued out I was just copied off of. Pissed me off to no end.
 
2012-04-27 02:06:22 PM

boozehat: I don't have a GED in Law, but I thought minors could not sign contracts (well, sure, they can sign them, but they're not worth anything)?

So the school made a minor sign a contract & the kid breaks the worthless contract.... what now?


The kid, and the kdis mom, both signed the contract. Perhaps if you read the article, you wouldn't look like such a tool. Though I have my doubts.

Bontesla: Son can admit to working with a friend without it being cheating IF this is otherwise considered acceptable behavior.


Based on the article, even the dad that is suing isn't denying that the kid cheated.
 
2012-04-27 02:16:38 PM

JuggleGeek: boozehat: I don't have a GED in Law, but I thought minors could not sign contracts (well, sure, they can sign them, but they're not worth anything)?

So the school made a minor sign a contract & the kid breaks the worthless contract.... what now?

The kid, and the kdis mom, both signed the contract. Perhaps if you read the article, you wouldn't look like such a tool. Though I have my doubts.

Bontesla: Son can admit to working with a friend without it being cheating IF this is otherwise considered acceptable behavior.

Based on the article, even the dad that is suing isn't denying that the kid cheated.


Okay . . . What do you think Due Process means?
 
2012-04-27 02:47:41 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'll have to bookmark this thread for the next time we have one of those zero-tolerance threads.


Here's one of the problems with your theory:

Zero tolerance is about taking flexibility and judgement out of what used to be the principal's job: Weighing the circumstance and imposing appropriate consequences for fighting, pranks and other inappropriate behaviors. "Drug-free campus" was supposed to deal with illegal behavior, but it became a blanket ban on all things medicine-ish. "Weapon-free" became an unthinking ban on all things weapon-ish, like Boy Scout jackknives, or even drawings of weapons. (For crying out loud, we used to bring our deer rifles to school during deer season. Unloaded, bolts pulled, and racked in the principal's office during the school day. Ammo stayed in the car. Mandatory annual hunter safety classes, too.)

Cheating, however, is a direct assault on the purpose of education and on the integrity of education itself. Cheating is antithetical to learning. This is one activity in an educational setting that deserves severe, immediate consequences. He cheated and was caught - no dispute there. No mitigating circumstance is offered (or even possible). The consequence was morally and academically appropriate. It was also just.
 
2012-04-27 02:54:29 PM

Bontesla: Okay . . . What do you think Due Process means?


This happened in a school, not a prison, not a courtroom, not a police station. He isn't being charged with a crime. He doesn't get a trial with a judge and 12 peers.

Even his dad admits he cheated. You're just pissed that the cheater isn't being given extra credit for cheating.
 
2012-04-27 03:09:31 PM

JuggleGeek: Bontesla: Okay . . . What do you think Due Process means?

This happened in a school, not a prison, not a courtroom, not a police station. He isn't being charged with a crime. He doesn't get a trial with a judge and 12 peers.

Even his dad admits he cheated. You're just pissed that the cheater isn't being given extra credit for cheating.


His father is claiming Due Process (not me). You don't have to point out that this isn't a constitutional violation. I never argued it was. But, way to demonstrate you have poor reading comprehension skills!

Further, the article said the father admits to it but they were summarizing and not quoting. The parents have asserted that he worked with friends on a homework assignment. I provided a reference for the article I read. So, again, way to demonstrate your poor reading comprehension skills!

Finally, I never adovcated for cheating. I did advocate for more information.

Thank you for demonstrating your complete and total failing at your ability to have a discussion.
 
2012-04-27 03:22:52 PM
1) I've never, ever had an assignment that was to be a collaborative or group effort that was not clearly explained as such when assigned. Don't assume it is. If kid's not sure, he should ask.

2) from your precious Mecury article (pops), the assignment was to " write in journals for homework". How in the world could you or the kids construe that as "copy somebody else?"

3) why are none of the other 3 kids biatching about getting busted?

Last time:
Sign the pledge --> cheat --> get bounced. duh.

Continued pursuit of the price of tea in China is asinine. How simple for the kid to have asked the teacher about "sharing" journal entries?? Responsibility and consequences... how do they work??
 
2012-04-27 03:23:27 PM

SharkTrager: TsarTom: Mr Berghouse never denied that his son cheated, and told MercuryNews.com that the sophomore is contrite.

Oh.
Well as long as he is contrite and all.

'He knows it's wrong,' he said. 'You cannot imagine the mental and emotional penalty that has been inflicted upon him.'

The poor feller sure sounds like he's suffered enough. I bet an ice cream cone would cheer him up, Dad.
Hey... extra sprinkles, huh? he's had a hard day.

He didn't cheat, and he is contrite, so he knows what he did is wrong. Ergo, he feels guilty about not cheating and is actually a dirty cheater who needs kicked out.


FTA...Sequoia High School District Superintendent James Lianides wrote in a March 19 letter that the pledge 'clearly states that any incident of cheating or plagiarism will result in the student removal from the class with no exceptions.'


Now, which one of those two offences do you think he was guilty of committing?
 
2012-04-27 03:26:20 PM

Jeager76: They will probably try some BS like because he is a minor he can't engage into contracts or something.


Nope. RTA. His mother co-signed the honesty pledge.
 
2012-04-27 03:31:15 PM

mamoru: Lynx


He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.
 
2012-04-27 03:40:49 PM
i659.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-27 04:14:15 PM

Bathia_Mapes: mamoru: Lynx

He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.


Blackberry actually.
Let's see if this is any better.
/still looks the same to me
 
2012-04-27 04:25:41 PM

Boatmech: Bathia_Mapes: mamoru: Lynx

He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.

Blackberry actually.
Let's see if this is any better.
/still looks the same to me


It looks much better to the rest of us!
 
2012-04-27 04:27:13 PM

Boatmech: Bathia_Mapes: mamoru: Lynx

He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.

Blackberry actually.
Let's see if this is any better.
/still looks the same to me


Kinda has a Haiku ring to it, with the line breaks and all.
 
2012-04-27 04:41:08 PM

RobSeace: Boatmech: Bathia_Mapes: mamoru: Lynx

He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.

Blackberry actually.
Let's see if this is any better.
/still looks the same to me

It looks much better to the rest of us!


Wonderful!
The mobile browser sucks - slow, almost useless really.
And that's the one I'm on now. I'll probably try a diffent set-up later if I can't work with it on my end.
Thx
 
2012-04-27 04:47:03 PM

KyDave: Boatmech: Bathia_Mapes: mamoru: Lynx

He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.

Blackberry actually.
Let's see if this is any better.
/still looks the same to me

Kinda has a Haiku ring to it, with the line breaks and all.


This is the full site.
Insult me or something if you can't read it well enough.
 
2012-04-27 04:53:47 PM
This is the easiest.
Hope it's readable
/threadjack-off
 
2012-04-27 05:53:17 PM

Mugato: What kind of a moran has to cheat on an English test?


FTFY
 
2012-04-27 06:08:37 PM

Moonfisher: OniExpress: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: I had an English teacher who flunked me for a semester essentially because the citations in my term paper were too infrequent. I had made my sources clear, and honestly thought I was footnoting adequately. As a teen I just didn't fully grasp the whole citation process, and was just bewildered when he went ballistic with the whole dishonesty angle.

I had several like that over the years. Two college degrees later I still couldn't claim a 100% grasp of the various citation standards (and certainly no love for them), and in high-school the process was flabbergasting. That said, I'm pretty sure my teachers had even less knowledge of MLA standards. There was absolutely no amount of citations that would suffice for some of these people, unless you could prove that the statement was your own original result.

Then again, I'm still the guy that will argue about the general worthlessness of the "significant digit" rule in most cases. Maybe I'm just some kind of academic rebel.

/pffffffft

Then you have the constant unpredictability of what they want in college. In high school, my teachers wanted a ridiculous amount of in-text citations and references, then in college every professor wanted a different format. Some want lots of citations, others encourage you to do more paraphrasing. The high school teachers need to mellow out and focus on teaching the kids how to navigate different citation systems and worry less about perfection.


Or amybe we could recognize that "citation systems" are as obsolete as card catalogs and buggy whips and requiring anything beyond the a working URL is an exercise in pure pedantry and a criminal waste of our children's time
 
2012-04-27 06:08:45 PM
Wow
Where did everybody go?
 
2012-04-27 06:22:35 PM

Boatmech: Wow
Where did everybody go?


Everyone is tearing the guy a new on on his Yelp page...
 
2012-04-27 06:50:40 PM

Gonad the Ballbarian: Boatmech: Wow
Where did everybody go?

Everyone is tearing the guy a new on on his Yelp page...


That 100% troll headline on the main page?
/who greens that crap?
 
2012-04-27 07:12:21 PM

Boatmech: Gonad the Ballbarian: Boatmech: Wow
Where did everybody go?

Everyone is tearing the guy a new on on his Yelp page...

That 100% troll headline on the main page?
/who greens that crap?


Which headline?
 
2012-04-27 07:13:18 PM

Boatmech: Gonad the Ballbarian: Boatmech: Wow
Where did everybody go?

Everyone is tearing the guy a new on on his Yelp page...

That 100% troll headline on the main page?
/who greens that crap?


Nevermind. Forgot about the TFD troll thread that got greened.
 
2012-04-27 07:36:15 PM
t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-04-27 08:48:10 PM

Boatmech: KyDave: Boatmech: Bathia_Mapes: mamoru: Lynx

He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.

Blackberry actually.
Let's see if this is any better.
/still looks the same to me

Kinda has a Haiku ring to it, with the line breaks and all.

This is the full site.
Insult me or something if you can't read it well enough.


Boatmech: Wow
Where did everybody go?


Kids got home from school
Meeting grandma for dinner
An insult goes here.

/fish in the sea indeed!
 
2012-04-27 09:03:04 PM

KyDave: Boatmech: KyDave: Boatmech: Bathia_Mapes: mamoru: Lynx

He might be using a mobile device. The quote buttons are not available when accessing fark that way.

Blackberry actually.
Let's see if this is any better.
/still looks the same to me

Kinda has a Haiku ring to it, with the line breaks and all.

This is the full site.
Insult me or something if you can't read it well enough.

Boatmech: Wow
Where did everybody go?

Kids got home from school
Meeting grandma for dinner
An insult goes here.

/fish in the sea indeed!


It seemed appropriate - should have made it bigger
So you can read this ok then?
 
2012-04-27 09:59:24 PM
Yes, much improved -- now with 75% less "Huh?" !!
 
2012-04-27 10:59:23 PM

ohmyvariousgods: I have a friend whose kid cheated on a test his freshman year in highschool (last year). She pulled him out of football, deactivated his Facebook page and took his iPhone away for the remainder of the school year; 7 months. No more distractions = plenty of time to study for tests and do homework.


I would applaud her but I am sure that some people would be horrified at how bad a mother she is.
 
2012-04-28 03:45:45 AM

Andromeda: I confess I really never get parents who defend their cheating spawn. I mean I've never done the whole being a parent thing, but I'd imagine if I ever heard of my kids doing that I'd whack them on the side of the head for it, not sue the school.


Why wouldn't kids who cheat have learned it from their parents???
 
2012-04-28 03:46:59 AM

firesign: [bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com image 460x290]


Hint: teachers are now tenured. I had 3 who were in their last year of teaching and didn't teach us anything.
 
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