Anti-sustanability. So, is it pro-Entropy instead? Sounds like they don't want to keep living.

So our crazy uncle's email chains are now creating laws?

Tennessee was working on something similar, no? Link At least I didn't notice anything about forced abortions in the craziness from AZ.

thamike: [www.bocaratontribune.com image 523x378]

"Spainability? I wuz BORN FREE! Gimme munny!"

Yeah, that's where the REAL danger to our society is coming from. Guys like that.
Kiss up, kick down, America - makes you feel like a MAN!

Dear President Obama and the Democrats:

Please, I beg you, come out in favor of breathing.

What if we are able to harness the stupid? Do you think there is a way we can create a renewable energy from stupid?

Is it possible that the heat/sun has cooked their brains?

MSNBC is still on the air????

who watches them?

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I suppose no one in AZ bothered to read the bill. If they did, they would have come across two minor details:

1. The entire thing is a non-binding resolution/statement of shared principles

2. Participation in achieveing any stated goals is VOLUNTARY


Score another point for reality.

So I just read the bill (Link). It's a pretty simple bill, and I don't see anything indicating a non-binding statement, or voluntary participation. Perhaps you'd like to point out where this language is?

keylock71: These people are ridiculous...

No, ridiculous would involve some level of humor here. These freaks are dangerous, poison to everything they touch.

I was in Arizona in 1999 on a road trip and decided to visit Meteor Crater. The guide, who was probably in his sixties, was giving his tour. Partway through his description of the history of the place, he started ranting about President Clinton and government occupation and Patriotic Americans standing firm against Federal intrusion. At the same time, all the middle-aged tourists standing around listening to this diatribe were all nodding like their heads were on the same string, or saying, "True, so true" to each other. It was very, very strange.

The tour guide was apparently confusing "national monument," which would have required turning over Barringer Crater to the Federal Government, and "National Natural Landmark," which can involve public or private ownership - and which had been conferred on Barringer Crater in 1967. To him, apparently "national natural landmark" was the first step on the slippery slope to some kind of wholesale nationwide government confiscation of private property. It kind of spoiled the whole experience. I can't imagine that things in Arizona have gotten any better since then.

You republicans are god damn nuts. Yes, you. Don't whine when you're painted with a broad brush, as you sat around for a generation with collective thumbs up asses while GOP voters brought these nutjobs into leadership positions.

From the Rio Declaration:

Principle 9

States should cooperate to strengthen endogenous capacity-building for sustainable development by improving scientific understanding through exchanges of scientific and technological knowledge, and by enhancing the development, adaptation, diffusion and transfer of technologies, including new and innovative technologies.

So both the government of AZ and anyone partnering with them (such as Universities) would be prohibited from developing or improving scientific understanding, or working toward the development of new technology, or adaptation/spread of existing technology? That's a winning strategy for the coming century if I ever heard one.

Central Massachusetts Tea party groups are all up in arms about Agenda 21 as well. I really want to go around in the dead of night and spray paint a weird stencil on the road in front of their houses. Something that says something like, " D.H.S--- ID 178 --- U.N. 771-- Detention---" , and then sit back and watch.

Dear Arizonians,

What's going on down there? You guys okay?

Concerned Rest of the Country

Stefanwulf: From the Rio Declaration:

Principle 9

States should cooperate to strengthen endogenous capacity-building for sustainable development by improving scientific understanding through exchanges of scientific and technological knowledge, and by enhancing the development, adaptation, diffusion and transfer of technologies, including new and innovative technologies.

So both the government of AZ and anyone partnering with them (such as Universities) would be prohibited from developing or improving scientific understanding, or working toward the development of new technology, or adaptation/spread of existing technology? That's a winning strategy for the coming century if I ever heard one.

Considering that a derpy Tea Partier wrote the bill, are you shocked?

It is sponsored by state Sen. Judy Burges, R-Sun City West, who also sponsored a state birther bill that Brewer vetoed last year.

Of all the derpy Tea Partiers, Judy Burges is one of the derpiest.

keylock71: Karac: Nah, make the QR code link to google a google maps page zoomed into their house. Bonus points if you use another QR for their work.

Lol...Even better.

That is awesome. They would go apeshiat.

Karac: Nah, make the QR code link to google a google maps page zoomed into their house. Bonus points if you use another QR for their work.

I have a weekend project.

Maybe I will include a map to a FEMA detention center too.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: 1. The entire thing is a non-binding resolution/statement of shared principles

Shared principles? That sounds like Communism. Finally the radical conservatives admit they are secret Communists!

trev29: keylock71: Karac: Nah, make the QR code link to google a google maps page zoomed into their house. Bonus points if you use another QR for their work.

Lol...Even better.

That is awesome. They would go apeshiat.

Too much work, you would have to have a separate one for each house.

Better: A code that goes to a login screen at DHS, one with a sinister warning or title. Doesn't even have to be DHS, could be any government agency, after all, Black Ops hides behind many masks

keylock71: trev29: Central Massachusetts Tea party groups are all up in arms about Agenda 21 as well. I really want to go around in the dead of night and spray paint a weird stencil on the road in front of their houses. Something that says something like, " D.H.S--- ID 178 --- U.N. 771-- Detention---" , and then sit back and watch.

Something like this attached to the curb in front of the house (so not to violate anyone's property rights):

Ha! Just do it to houses with republican campaign signs in their yards. It'll save you some paint and work and increase the paranoia by an order of magnitude.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Stefanwulf: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I suppose no one in AZ bothered to read the bill. If they did, they would have come across two minor details:

1. The entire thing is a non-binding resolution/statement of shared principles

2. Participation in achieving any stated goals is VOLUNTARY


Score another point for reality.

So I just read the bill (Link). It's a pretty simple bill, and I don't see anything indicating a non-binding statement, or voluntary participation. Perhaps you'd like to point out where this language is?

The points I referenced are concerning the original UN document, not AZ's bill. Wiki has a decent writeup on 'UN Agenda 21', and I believe a reference to the final report itself.

Oh, gotcha! Sorry, I assumed you were talking about the AZ bill. For the UN Declaration I'm right there with you. Non-binding, totally voluntary, and actually not even specific, just a series of principles, and generally non-scary ones at that - like cooperating with other countries in natural disaster relief.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Gotta love this crap:

"About the Rio declaration, SB1507 says "the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda around the world."

That's atomic grade derp right there. But, I do love the consequences of this bill:

"We wouldn't be able to use CFL light bulbs in state buildings because that would be considered energy efficiency," Campbell said.

Campbell also said that the state's Economic Security Department, which handles unemployment and welfare benefits, could be outlawed because it has to do with eradicating poverty.

Also, Arizona universities have sustainability programs that could be banned if the bill becomes law, Campbell warned.

Arizona State University has a School of Sustainability, Northern Arizona University offers a master's in sustainable communities, and the University of Arizona has an environment and sustainability portal.

I'm SURE that the university campuses would be happy to just shut down a bunch of departments, and I'm sure the sizable number of people in AZ on unemployment would love to stop getting checks.

And the results?

President Obama would be accused of dismantling programs of sustainability and development.

I hear Arizona will also pass a bill denying state airspace to any black helicopter under the control of NATO. It also mandates tinfoil hats for everyone.

Seriously, America used to laugh at the Birchers and other crazies with ideas like this. Now they control the Arizona legislature?

Fark needs a new tag.

Arizona has now entered the race between Florida and Texas to be the dumbest state in the union.

Johnny Stank

You republicans are god damn nuts. Yes, you. Don't whine when you're painted with a broad brush, as you sat around for a generation with collective thumbs up asses while GOP voters brought these nutjobs into leadership positions.

You reek with the smell of fear and weakness - you can look forward to spending a lifetime as a damsel in distress.

trev29: Central Massachusetts Tea party groups are all up in arms about Agenda 21 as well. I really want to go around in the dead of night and spray paint a weird stencil on the road in front of their houses. Something that says something like, " D.H.S--- ID 178 --- U.N. 771-- Detention---" , and then sit back and watch.

I'm just north of Boston and would like to know where I can donate material goods to this endeavor...

El_Frijole_Blanco: Once again my decision to leave the area my family has lived in for nearly 300 years has again been validated

See? Arizona has even kicked out God.

Ah, Arizona. The meth lab of democracy.