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(MSNBC)   Arizona GOP turns the derp up to infinity, passes anti-sustainability bill in order to avert a 'UN conspiracy'. Bonus: Under the bill, the state unemployment office would have to be shut down   (usnews.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 365
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2012-04-26 09:19:17 PM
Stupid shiat like this is beyond words. All I can come up with is:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-26 09:36:13 PM
jesus farking christ, you farking retarded farking morons -- please just secede, or die, or do something other than polluting our farking country with your idiotic bullshiat.
 
2012-04-26 09:48:19 PM
I thought Jan Brewer said no more bills until the state Legislature actually passed a budget?

Talks on the budget may be on the verge of breaking down, as Gov. Jan Brewer today told Republican legislative leaders that she will not sign any more bills until the budget is done.

"The governor has indicated to leadership that, outside of the bills that are on her desk now, she won't sign any more bills until there's a budget," Brewer spokesman Matthew Benson said.


Link

Where oh where is that budget bill?

And this bill is sh*t. These same assholes supported a bill 12 years ago for an alternative energy tax.

Link

God damned hypocrites.

I use a solar oven 1 or 2 times a week to cook food in the sun, here. We have plenty of sun. We have NO excuse to not use the one resource we have an abundance of. You jackasses in the Tea Party can kiss my ass and shove your Birch fear of the UN straight up your own.
 
2012-04-26 09:51:00 PM
Gotta love this crap:

"About the Rio declaration, SB1507 says "the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda around the world."

That's atomic grade derp right there. But, I do love the consequences of this bill:

"We wouldn't be able to use CFL light bulbs in state buildings because that would be considered energy efficiency," Campbell said.

Campbell also said that the state's Economic Security Department, which handles unemployment and welfare benefits, could be outlawed because it has to do with eradicating poverty.

Also, Arizona universities have sustainability programs that could be banned if the bill becomes law, Campbell warned.

Arizona State University has a School of Sustainability, Northern Arizona University offers a master's in sustainable communities, and the University of Arizona has an environment and sustainability portal.


I'm SURE that the university campuses would be happy to just shut down a bunch of departments, and I'm sure the sizable number of people in AZ on unemployment would love to stop getting checks.
 
2012-04-26 09:55:25 PM

Nadie_AZ: I thought Jan Brewer said no more bills until the state Legislature actually passed a budget?


Pretty sure she will veto this anyway.
 
2012-04-26 09:56:40 PM
I suppose no one in AZ bothered to read the bill. If they did, they would have come across two minor details:

1. The entire thing is a non-binding resolution/statement of shared principles

2. Participation in achieveing any stated goals is VOLUNTARY



Score another point for reality.
 
2012-04-26 09:56:53 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: 'm SURE that the university campuses would be happy to just shut down a bunch of departments


HA!

Arizona State school of sustainability is the first of its kind: a comprehensive degree-granting program with a transdisciplinary focus on finding real-world solutions to environmental, economic, and social challenges. Established in spring 2007 and enrolling undergraduates since fall 2008, the School is part of the Global Institute of Sustainability.
 
2012-04-26 09:57:15 PM
And deduct a point from me for bad spelling. :(
 
2012-04-26 09:57:51 PM

violentsalvation: Nadie_AZ: I thought Jan Brewer said no more bills until the state Legislature actually passed a budget?

Pretty sure she will veto this anyway.


She shows flashes of moderation. With her votes, anyways.

Let's hope so.
 
2012-04-26 09:59:31 PM
Just round up the poor, democrats, and minorities into camps. At least that way you will be honest about it.
 
2012-04-26 10:02:39 PM
Welp, you get the government you voted for, not the one you deserve
 
2012-04-26 10:04:44 PM
Here is the Text of the Bill for those who want to see the DERP that the AZ Legislature rolls with.

State of Arizona
Senate
Fiftieth Legislature
Second Regular Session
2012

SENATE BILL 1507

AN ACT

PROHIBITING THE STATE AND ITS POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS FROM ADOPTING OR IMPLEMENTING THE UNITED NATIONS RIO DECLARATION ON ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT.

Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:
Section 1. Rio declaration on environment and development; prohibition; definition
A. The state of Arizona and all political subdivisions of this state shall not adopt or implement the creed, doctrine, principles or any tenet of the United Nations Rio Declaration on Environment and Development and the Statement of Principles for Sustainable Development adopted at the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil in June, 1992 or any other international law that contravenes the United States Constitution or the Constitution of Arizona.

B. Since the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous independent, non-governmental organizations to implement this agenda around the world, the state of Arizona and all political subdivisions are prohibited from implementing programs of, expending any sum of money for, being a member of, receiving funding from, contracting services from, or giving financial or other forms of aid to the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives or any of its related or affiliated organizations including Countdown 2010, Local Action for Biodiversity, European Center for Nature Conservation, the International Union for Conservation of Nature, the President's Council on Sustainable Development, enacted on July 19, 1993 by Executive Order 12852 and the White House Rural Council, enacted on June 9, 2011 by Executive Order 13575.

C. For the purposes of this section, "political subdivision" includes this state, or a county, city or town in this state, or a public partnership or any other public entity in this state.
 
2012-04-26 10:06:09 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I suppose no one in AZ bothered to read the bill. If they did, they would have come across two minor details:

1. The entire thing is a non-binding resolution/statement of shared principles

2. Participation in achieveing any stated goals is VOLUNTARY


Score another point for reality.


3. For most of us, staying the fark out of Arizona is one of our civil rights.
 
2012-04-26 10:11:24 PM

Nadie_AZ: She shows flashes of moderation. With her votes, anyways.


Really? I've never seen anything about your state representatives or your governor that represents anything except pure weapons-grade derp.
 
2012-04-26 10:13:43 PM
I'd love to see Arizona pass this, have a massive chemical spill or fire, and refuse to communicate at all with any other government about it. The lawsuits would be epic:

Principle 18

States shall immediately notify other States of any natural disasters or
other emergencies that are likely to produce sudden harmful effects on the
environment of those States. Every effort shall be made by the international
community to help States so afflicted.
 
2012-04-26 10:20:02 PM
The second that bill passes, everyone outside Arizona should fund a gigantic Lexan bubble and place it over the entire state, so all their smog, pollution, and derp fumes don't affect the rest of us..
 
2012-04-26 10:48:44 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Gotta love this crap:

"About the Rio declaration, SB1507 says "the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda around the world."

That's atomic grade derp right there. But, I do love the consequences of this bill:

"We wouldn't be able to use CFL light bulbs in state buildings because that would be considered energy efficiency," Campbell said.

Campbell also said that the state's Economic Security Department, which handles unemployment and welfare benefits, could be outlawed because it has to do with eradicating poverty.

Also, Arizona universities have sustainability programs that could be banned if the bill becomes law, Campbell warned.

Arizona State University has a School of Sustainability, Northern Arizona University offers a master's in sustainable communities, and the University of Arizona has an environment and sustainability portal.

I'm SURE that the university campuses would be happy to just shut down a bunch of departments, and I'm sure the sizable number of people in AZ on unemployment would love to stop getting checks.


The thing is, we've had budget cuts every year since 2001. The Arizona Board of Regents could easily use this law as an excuse to cut departments without having to provide any other justification.
 
2012-04-26 10:49:54 PM

GAT_00: Nadie_AZ: She shows flashes of moderation. With her votes, anyways.

Really? I've never seen anything about your state representatives or your governor that represents anything except pure weapons-grade derp.


Jan vetoed this same crazy lady's birther bill and also a bill that would have allowed guns, concealed or open, to be carried in public buildings. That's all I can remember that I think we can agree was good of her.
 
2012-04-26 10:56:38 PM

violentsalvation: GAT_00: Nadie_AZ: She shows flashes of moderation. With her votes, anyways.

Really? I've never seen anything about your state representatives or your governor that represents anything except pure weapons-grade derp.

Jan vetoed this same crazy lady's birther bill and also a bill that would have allowed guns, concealed or open, to be carried in public buildings. That's all I can remember that I think we can agree was good of her.


You already have open carry. I figured it included public buildings.
 
2012-04-26 10:58:41 PM
Hmm...

"Among the U.N. declaration's non-binding principles are calls for sustainable development, environmental protection, eradicating poverty, eliminating unsustainable production and consumption patterns, economic growth and the participation of women in government decisions."

So would Brewer and the tard who sponsored this bill step down?
 
2012-04-26 11:08:18 PM

GAT_00: violentsalvation: GAT_00: Nadie_AZ: She shows flashes of moderation. With her votes, anyways.

Really? I've never seen anything about your state representatives or your governor that represents anything except pure weapons-grade derp.

Jan vetoed this same crazy lady's birther bill and also a bill that would have allowed guns, concealed or open, to be carried in public buildings. That's all I can remember that I think we can agree was good of her.

You already have open carry. I figured it included public buildings.


sorry, government buildings.
 
2012-04-26 11:10:59 PM

violentsalvation: GAT_00: violentsalvation: GAT_00: Nadie_AZ: She shows flashes of moderation. With her votes, anyways.

Really? I've never seen anything about your state representatives or your governor that represents anything except pure weapons-grade derp.

Jan vetoed this same crazy lady's birther bill and also a bill that would have allowed guns, concealed or open, to be carried in public buildings. That's all I can remember that I think we can agree was good of her.

You already have open carry. I figured it included public buildings.

sorry, government buildings.


Ah. By the way, you wanted that paper, right? It's in the last edits now, and doesn't much resemble the earlier version. Still interesting though.
 
2012-04-26 11:14:18 PM
I give up...

/just nuke it from orbit
 
2012-04-26 11:18:06 PM

GAT_00: violentsalvation: GAT_00: violentsalvation: GAT_00: Nadie_AZ: She shows flashes of moderation. With her votes, anyways.

Really? I've never seen anything about your state representatives or your governor that represents anything except pure weapons-grade derp.

Jan vetoed this same crazy lady's birther bill and also a bill that would have allowed guns, concealed or open, to be carried in public buildings. That's all I can remember that I think we can agree was good of her.

You already have open carry. I figured it included public buildings.

sorry, government buildings.

Ah. By the way, you wanted that paper, right? It's in the last edits now, and doesn't much resemble the earlier version. Still interesting though.


Yeah, I would like to read it when you get it all cleaned up. Email it to me when you can.
 
2012-04-26 11:19:37 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I give up...

/just nuke it from orbit


it's the only way to be sure.

it's funny; growing up, i always thought it would be alabama or mississippi or some old confederate state that would finally go full-on batshiat, bugfark wingnut crazy. i never thought it would be arizona. i wonder why that is.
 
2012-04-26 11:34:12 PM

FlashHarry: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I give up...

/just nuke it from orbit

it's the only way to be sure.

it's funny; growing up, i always thought it would be alabama or mississippi or some old confederate state that would finally go full-on batshiat, bugfark wingnut crazy. i never thought it would be arizona. i wonder why that is.


I'm not sure, but I think the snowbirds have something to do with it

/maybe it's that huge yearly influx of radios tuned to Limbaugh
 
2012-04-27 12:29:56 AM
Thanks for making the rest of the world think we're douchebags, red state desert wasteland.

This speaks to a wider problem, though. No one takes the United Nations seriously. That's the problem with a confederation. Our confederation lasted only a few years before we flat-out rewrote it.

What we need is a stronger U.N. modeled on the tripartite bicameral model of government, with a rotating presidency modeled on the E.U. (while learning from its mistakes) It would be layered over existing federal and state governments with minimal interference and exert very little pressure on them.

The problem, however, is how to preserve a mechanism with a semblance of the Security Council in the house representation, without using an absolute veto system (which was proven to not work BEFORE THE BIRTH OF CHRIST). Preferably, this replacement would recognize the current balance of power between nation-states, but be amenable to changes, such as India finally getting a voice, or Russia losing some of their clout until they root out the mobsters.

/And I am absolutely sure this will work.
 
2012-04-27 12:32:22 AM
that's awesome. just shut down unemployment and watch/see what happens.
 
2012-04-27 12:33:18 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Thanks for making the rest of the world think we're douchebags, red state desert wasteland.

This speaks to a wider problem, though. No one takes the United Nations seriously. That's the problem with a confederation. Our confederation lasted only a few years before we flat-out rewrote it.

What we need is a stronger U.N. modeled on the tripartite bicameral model of government, with a rotating presidency modeled on the E.U. (while learning from its mistakes) It would be layered over existing federal and state governments with minimal interference and exert very little pressure on them.

The problem, however, is how to preserve a mechanism with a semblance of the Security Council in the house representation, without using an absolute veto system (which was proven to not work BEFORE THE BIRTH OF CHRIST). Preferably, this replacement would recognize the current balance of power between nation-states, but be amenable to changes, such as India finally getting a voice, or Russia losing some of their clout until they root out the mobsters.

/And I am absolutely sure this will work.


Not bad ideas, though I'd go for removing veto power period. All issues go to a vote, and no one country can stop the vote just because they don't like it.
 
2012-04-27 12:34:49 AM

Weaver95: that's awesome. just shut down unemployment and watch/see what happens.


Don't you see? This will work out great!*

Multiple factors (none of which are SB1070) are reversing the immigration tide, so the unemployed can just pull up their bootstraps and take those jobs!


*not intended to be a factual statement
 
2012-04-27 12:37:03 AM
Has there ever been talk of adding people to the security council? I know we eventually dumped Kai-Shek's people for Mao's, but has there ever been a push to expand the council?

Though, of course, adding India right now, with the shiat going down in Pakistan, would be retarded. In a decade or so, maybe Brazil?
 
2012-04-27 12:39:42 AM
Oh yeah, "sustainability" is the tea party's new dirty word. The tea party rally that my sister had the misfortune of having to attend a few weeks ago included much ranting and raving about how sustainability and sustainable development was nothing but socialism.

/Can we give Arizona back to Mexico?
//Mexico probably doesn't want to deal with them though
 
2012-04-27 12:40:56 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Weaver95: that's awesome. just shut down unemployment and watch/see what happens.

Don't you see? This will work out great!*

Multiple factors (none of which are SB1070) are reversing the immigration tide, so the unemployed can just pull up their bootstraps and take those jobs!


*not intended to be a factual statement


while they're at it, they should disband the police and fireman unions. I mean why the hell not right?
 
2012-04-27 12:46:54 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Thanks for making the rest of the world think we're douchebags, red state desert wasteland.

This speaks to a wider problem, though. No one takes the United Nations seriously. That's the problem with a confederation. Our confederation lasted only a few years before we flat-out rewrote it.

What we need is a stronger U.N. modeled on the tripartite bicameral model of government, with a rotating presidency modeled on the E.U. (while learning from its mistakes) It would be layered over existing federal and state governments with minimal interference and exert very little pressure on them.

The problem, however, is how to preserve a mechanism with a semblance of the Security Council in the house representation, without using an absolute veto system (which was proven to not work BEFORE THE BIRTH OF CHRIST). Preferably, this replacement would recognize the current balance of power between nation-states, but be amenable to changes, such as India finally getting a voice, or Russia losing some of their clout until they root out the mobsters.

/And I am absolutely sure this will work.

Not bad ideas, though I'd go for removing veto power period. All issues go to a vote, and no one country can stop the vote just because they don't like it.


I like to turn the word 'filibuster' into 'veto' when reading articles. It gets the real message across.

Jokes aside, what I'm proposing though, is that we find a systemic mechanism that on paper would seem to remove the "undemocratic veto" as a PR move while seemingly preserving the de facto status of the council at the time of signing, but will in fact shift into a de facto abolition of the veto process. Since you couldn't use a legislative sleight of hand to pull this off, you'd need to tie it to trends that nobody with power (i.e. the complacent old people who make all the decisions for some reason) expects to change, but inevitably will. Just not so quickly the world can't adapt.

What countries do you think would go for it? Which ones would be huge obstacles, and why? I've been pondering this ever since I learned how shiatty the U.N.'s performance has been on many issues.
 
2012-04-27 12:49:15 AM
omnibus_necanda_sunt:I've been pondering this ever since I learned how shiatty the U.N.'s performance has been on many issues.

So, thinking back... I was about 8. Maybe 9.

/Or was that when I learned what a blowjob was?
 
2012-04-27 12:53:06 AM
I'd like to submit a bill in the AZ Senate banning the harmful chemical dihydrogen monoxide that the UN wants to put in our water supply.
 
2012-04-27 01:18:17 AM
I love it. It's not saying that they can't be forced into following the directive, or that any UN directive would have to be independently ratified by the state legislature, no. Those would be useless and somewhat paranoid, but understandable. No, this says you CAN'T AGREE with the following statements:

Principle 1

Human beings are at the centre of concerns for sustainable development.
They are entitled to a healthy and productive life in harmony with nature.


So people in Arizona ARE NOT entitled to healthy and productive lives.

Principle 2

States have, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and the
principles of international law, the sovereign right to exploit their own
resources pursuant to their own environmental and developmental policies, and
the responsibility to ensure that activities within their jurisdiction or
control do not cause damage to the environment of other States or of areas
beyond the limits of national jurisdiction.


Arizona does not have the right to exploit their own resources, and should cause damage to their neighboring jurisdictions.

Principle 5

All States and all people shall cooperate in the essential task of
eradicating poverty as an indispensable requirement for sustainable
development, in order to decrease the disparities in standards of living and
better meet the needs of the majority of the people of the world.


Arizonans should work to screw over the poor and increase their numbers (okay, the Arizona GOP might actually like this one).

Principle 13

States shall develop national law regarding liability and compensation
for the victims of pollution and other environmental damage. States shall also
cooperate in an expeditious and more determined manner to develop further
international law regarding liability and compensation for adverse effects of
environmental damage caused by activities within their jurisdiction or control
to areas beyond their jurisdiction.


Arizonans can't have the ability to sue for compensation for pollution of their properties.

Principle 20

Women have a vital role in environmental management and development.
Their full participation is therefore essential to achieve sustainable
development.


Women in Arizona can't help make environmental policy decisions.

You have fun with that, Arizona.

/Why would anybody pick this inoffensive document to fight over? I just do not get it, but it is quite humorous.
 
2012-04-27 01:27:06 AM
Can you still buy explosives in AZ with just a driver's license? I'm just asking questions here!
 
2012-04-27 01:27:53 AM
green.thefuntimesguide.com

/hear that? That's the sound of billions of jobs flooding into Arizona...
 
2012-04-27 01:29:43 AM

Weaver95: that's awesome. just shut down unemployment and watch/see what happens.


They'll finally have an excuse to use those cool 113s and MRAPs they bought from Army surplus?
 
2012-04-27 02:07:04 AM
Once again my decision to leave the area my family has lived in for nearly 300 years has again been validated
 
2012-04-27 03:15:19 AM
Are they putting something in the water that's different from the rest of the water? Or maybe it's just too much sun? Sunstroke can do funky stuff.
 
2012-04-27 03:21:29 AM
Yeah...I'm well passed the point where Arizona is one of the 50 that I refuse to visit, on any grounds. F*ck Arizona.
 
2012-04-27 03:32:10 AM
GO BACK TO MEXICO, you fkn lunatics
 
2012-04-27 03:40:54 AM
Does that mean that the Grand Canyon is now an industrial area?

/a lot of household and hazardous waste can fit in there.
 
2012-04-27 03:45:37 AM

ThunderPelvis: Yeah...I'm well passed the point where Arizona is one of the 50 that I refuse to visit, on any grounds. F*ck Arizona.


If I am somehow forced to visit Arizona, I'm not doing so without a passport. Despite my very white skin, I don't want them mistaking me for Hispanic because of my dark hair and then trying to deport me to Mexico or something.
 
2012-04-27 03:51:59 AM
The sun is there.
This is your brain.
This is your brain in Arizona.
 
2012-04-27 04:23:25 AM
Mitt Romeny is going to be President soon and no one will need unemployment because everyone will have jobs and the economy wil be some much better once Fartbama is gone so we don't need any unemployment office because it's just socialism anyway.
 
2012-04-27 06:05:05 AM
We should have a bill for every crazy conspiracy theory, it would be hilarious.
 
2012-04-27 06:07:17 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I suppose no one in AZ bothered to read the bill. If they did, they would have come across two minor details:

1. The entire thing is a non-binding resolution/statement of shared principles

2. Participation in achieveing any stated goals is VOLUNTARY


Score another point for reality.


Sounds more like a point for idiot, impotent symbolism than reality.
But I'm not against any of this. I think it's time to quit intervening, and make an example. Let the Right drive Arizona (or Alabama, or whoever) off a cliff. Let the rest of the nation witness, observe, and learn.
It's way past time to quit trying to protect these retards from themselves.
 
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