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2012-04-27 05:58:26 AM  

truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

would you rather have aids or herpes?

What the f*ck does that have to do with it? What kind of dumbass, idiotic question is that?

can you answer the question?

When did you stop beating your wife? There is no answer because it's not a logical question.

I never beat my wife. Easy answer. You never answered a question about which you would rather have between two options. lmao. Amazing how you deflect the topic.

Neither. Who want's an STD you moron? It wasn't deflection. It was to prove how stupid your question was and how it had no bearing on the conversation.


Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.
 
2012-04-27 06:00:06 AM  

truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: And by the way, AIDS doesn't kill you. It's complications from it. pneumonia, infections and the like...

L
O
L

my gosh you are funny

What's funny about that? AIDS is not whay kills you. It's a leading cause of allowing whatever else to kill you, but that's not what does you in.

And golly gee, you sound like a child.


Have you ever heard of semantics?

Are you trying to say that AIDs isn't deadly?
 
2012-04-27 06:02:24 AM  

Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

aids is a SUBSET of STDs. Why would STD rates be lower among gays if AIDS rates were higher amongst gays?

Then where are you numbers to back up your claims? Once again, because you are trying so damned hard to pretend that you ever said it, you said, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." Put up some numbers to prove this claim. All you have given was numbers that deal with one STD out of over a dozen. Just because the rate of HIV is higher among homosexuals does not automatically mean that the rate for all STDs is higher among homosexuals. That is a logical fallacy known as the fallacy of composition.

You can make wild, specious claims all you want, but until you provide some actual numbers to prove that the rate of ALL STDs is higher among heterosexuals than homosexuals you are nothing but a damned liar.


Okay.
So you admit that HIV is a problem mainly amongst gay people.
And you have to admit that HIV is the worst STD there is. Right?
That's my point.

Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.
 
2012-04-27 06:04:25 AM  

giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

would you rather have aids or herpes?

What the f*ck does that have to do with it? What kind of dumbass, idiotic question is that?

can you answer the question?

When did you stop beating your wife? There is no answer because it's not a logical question.

I never beat my wife. Easy answer. You never answered a question about which you would rather have between two options. lmao. Amazing how you deflect the topic.

Neither. Who want's an STD you moron? It wasn't deflection. It was to prove how stupid your question was and how it had no bearing on the conversation.

Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.


It's a dumb question, but that's the answer. My partner doesn't have anything, I don't have anything, so I have no worries. That's my answer. Neither. That's not avoiding the question, that's just the simple answer. Neither. Gays may have and spread hiv, but so do straight people. I still don't see your point. Care to revise your claim that stds are the result of blood contact and that straight people don't have that so by extention straights don't have stds? Cause that's what you wrote. I even quoted it a while ago. Or how about why you never answered why gays should know how to practice safe sex, but apparently the same doesn't go for teens who don't know to wrap it up and end up with five kids by 19? no?
 
2012-04-27 06:04:45 AM  

giftedmadness: Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.


We are avoiding the question because you still have not proven that "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." All you have proven is that one single STD is more prevalent among homosexual men. You have completely ignored all the other STDs and homosexual women.
 
2012-04-27 06:06:08 AM  

truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

would you rather have aids or herpes?

What the f*ck does that have to do with it? What kind of dumbass, idiotic question is that?

can you answer the question?

When did you stop beating your wife? There is no answer because it's not a logical question.

I never beat my wife. Easy answer. You never answered a question about which you would rather have between two options. lmao. Amazing how you deflect the topic.

Neither. Who want's an STD you moron? It wasn't deflection. It was to prove how stupid your question was and how it had no bearing on the conversation.

Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.

It's a dumb question, but that's the answer. My partner doesn't have anything, I don't have anything, so I have no worries. That's my answer. Neither. That's not avoiding the question, that's just the simple answer. Neither. Gays may have and spread hiv, but so do straight people. I still don't see your point. Care to revise your claim that stds are the result of blood contact and that straight people don't have that so ...


http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm
 
2012-04-27 06:06:45 AM  

giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: And by the way, AIDS doesn't kill you. It's complications from it. pneumonia, infections and the like...

L
O
L

my gosh you are funny

What's funny about that? AIDS is not whay kills you. It's a leading cause of allowing whatever else to kill you, but that's not what does you in.

And golly gee, you sound like a child.

Have you ever heard of semantics?

Are you trying to say that AIDs isn't deadly?


read my follow up. I'm not saying it's not deadly. I revised and retracted what I said. Something you might try. And I'm not a child, so quit talking to me like I am.
 
2012-04-27 06:07:05 AM  

giftedmadness: Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.


Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-27 06:07:35 AM  

Mock26: giftedmadness: Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.

We are avoiding the question because you still have not proven that "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." All you have proven is that one single STD is more prevalent among homosexual men. You have completely ignored all the other STDs and homosexual women.


lmao.

so you admit that gay men spread the worst STD there is. That's my point.
 
2012-04-27 06:09:12 AM  

Mock26: giftedmadness: Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:

[img.photobucket.com image 500x271]


http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm
 
2012-04-27 06:10:53 AM  

giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.

We are avoiding the question because you still have not proven that "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." All you have proven is that one single STD is more prevalent among homosexual men. You have completely ignored all the other STDs and homosexual women.

lmao.

so you admit that gay men spread the worst STD there is. That's my point.


Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-27 06:11:37 AM  

giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

aids is a SUBSET of STDs. Why would STD rates be lower among gays if AIDS rates were higher amongst gays?

Then where are you numbers to back up your claims? Once again, because you are trying so damned hard to pretend that you ever said it, you said, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." Put up some numbers to prove this claim. All you have given was numbers that deal with one STD out of over a dozen. Just because the rate of HIV is higher among homosexuals does not automatically mean that the rate for all STDs is higher among homosexuals. That is a logical fallacy known as the fallacy of composition.

You can make wild, specious claims all you want, but until you provide some actual numbers to prove that the rate of ALL STDs is higher among heterosexuals than homosexuals you are nothing but a damned liar.

Okay.
So you admit that HIV is a problem mainly amongst gay people.
And you have to admit that HIV is the worst STD there is. Right?
That's my point.

Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.


And straight sex= problems with hiv as well. It may effect gay people 'more' but that's not really a point. It's like me saying unexpected crotchfruit is a mainly hetero problem, but there's no real point other than that. I explained why hiv was a problem, and explained a couple ways to help remedy that, but you kept going on about how more gay people (percentage) have hiv. What was the reason for pointing this out?
 
2012-04-27 06:13:27 AM  

truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

aids is a SUBSET of STDs. Why would STD rates be lower among gays if AIDS rates were higher amongst gays?

Then where are you numbers to back up your claims? Once again, because you are trying so damned hard to pretend that you ever said it, you said, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." Put up some numbers to prove this claim. All you have given was numbers that deal with one STD out of over a dozen. Just because the rate of HIV is higher among homosexuals does not automatically mean that the rate for all STDs is higher among homosexuals. That is a logical fallacy known as the fallacy of composition.

You can make wild, specious claims all you want, but until you provide some actual numbers to prove that the rate of ALL STDs is higher among heterosexuals than homosexuals you are nothing but a damned liar.

Okay.
So you admit that HIV is a problem mainly amongst gay people.
And you have to admit that HIV is the worst STD there is. Right?
That's my point.

Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

And straight sex= problems with hiv as well. It may effect gay people 'more' but that's not really a point. It's like me saying unexpected crotchfruit is a mainly hetero problem, but there's no real point other than that. I explained why hiv was a problem, and explained a couple ways to help remedy that, but you kept going on about how more gay people (percentage) have hiv. What was the reason for pointing this out?


And again, that's just hiv/aids. That's not All Stds, like you claimed. Care to retract/revise your previous dumbass statements? I've revised my position. u man enough to?
 
2012-04-27 06:13:55 AM  
Stop feeding the gay trolls.
 
2012-04-27 06:14:12 AM  
meant to quote 'gifted, not me... oh well
 
2012-04-27 06:16:37 AM  
"My mother kept asking why and what does his sexual orientation have to do with giving a graduation speech," Sheahan-Stahl says. "She cried and didn't sleep at all that night. My poor brother, whose graduation it is, couldn't even be in the room when my mom had to tell me. Even my sister cried herself to sleep that night."


Sighs....you know, I never cease to be amazed at people. Your gay kid goes to a catholic school, where I'm sure he understood Catholic dogma about homosexuality. And now you're all butt-hurt because they wont let him speak at a ceremony. Sorry, that's what you get for belonging to a archaic and intolerant theocracy.
 
2012-04-27 06:17:07 AM  

Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.

We are avoiding the question because you still have not proven that "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." All you have proven is that one single STD is more prevalent among homosexual men. You have completely ignored all the other STDs and homosexual women.

lmao.

so you admit that gay men spread the worst STD there is. That's my point.

Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:
[img.photobucket.com image 500x271]


AIDS is a SUBSET of STDS! AIDS is the WORST STD there is! That's my point! Gay men are the most responsible for this, right? That's my point. How many times do I have to say it?
 
2012-04-27 06:19:37 AM  

truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

aids is a SUBSET of STDs. Why would STD rates be lower among gays if AIDS rates were higher amongst gays?

Then where are you numbers to back up your claims? Once again, because you are trying so damned hard to pretend that you ever said it, you said, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." Put up some numbers to prove this claim. All you have given was numbers that deal with one STD out of over a dozen. Just because the rate of HIV is higher among homosexuals does not automatically mean that the rate for all STDs is higher among homosexuals. That is a logical fallacy known as the fallacy of composition.

You can make wild, specious claims all you want, but until you provide some actual numbers to prove that the rate of ALL STDs is higher among heterosexuals than homosexuals you are nothing but a damned liar.

Okay.
So you admit that HIV is a problem mainly amongst gay people.
And you have to admit that HIV is the worst STD there is. Right?
That's my point.

Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

And straight sex= problems with hiv as well. It may effect gay people 'more' but that's not rea ...


that's the whole point of my arguments. That unnatural gay sex leads to HIV. HIV is the worst STD. That's my point. lol, what is so hard about this?
 
2012-04-27 06:20:19 AM  

giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.

We are avoiding the question because you still have not proven that "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." All you have proven is that one single STD is more prevalent among homosexual men. You have completely ignored all the other STDs and homosexual women.

lmao.

so you admit that gay men spread the worst STD there is. That's my point.

Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:
[img.photobucket.com image 500x271]

AIDS is a SUBSET of STDS! AIDS is the WORST STD there is! That's my point! Gay men are the most responsible for this, right? That's my point. How many times do I have to say it?


So why is it important to make that point?
 
2012-04-27 06:20:24 AM  

giftedmadness: FarkLiberty: giftedmadness: trolololol

Good work. Fav'd in only 3 posts. Perhaps I just haven't noticed you before but this is some high quality trolling. I'd say you're still putting in just a BIT too much effort for a high score, but nevertheless, its good work. So this thread you don't get a score, I want you to have something to shoot for. Overall, decent style.

And although you seem to be going for the whole long form troll (I'm more of a letrole minimalistic approach kinda guy) I still think you could learn a bit from him. The point is to get bites without effort. You've put a bit too much effort in. Also, Protip: stick to the CDC studies when you're called out.

you mean like this CDC study?

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm


Yes, indeed, that was the one I was referring to. Like I was trying to say, it's harder to ignore a study by the CDC than one that's funded by the Catholic Church (as you initially did).

Hey man, I'm on your side. I love me a good troll. It's why I come here. I'm trying to help you.

Here I'll even help you out some more. You have yet to point out the AIDS epidemic in Africa. Cause everyone knows that AIDS babies only come from allowing HIV positive gay fathers to adopt then rape the kids. Only furthering your point of promiscuity

/Seriously tho some quality work.
//You employed all the classic troll techniques.
///With a lil practice you might be as good as letrole (Im a big fan of his)
 
2012-04-27 06:21:01 AM  

giftedmadness: Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm


You cannot make a general claim about all STDs and then provide statistics for a single STD to try and prove your claim. Your fallacy of composition is just that, a fallacy.

Tell you what, tosser, how about you stop focusing on only one single STD (the fact that it is the worst STD is irrelevant) and use google to find infection rates for all STDs among homosexuals and among hetersexuals, okay? Until then, go fark yourself.
 
2012-04-27 06:21:06 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Stop feeding the gay trolls.


+1

I lol'd
 
2012-04-27 06:21:47 AM  

truthseeker2083: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

aids is a SUBSET of STDs. Why would STD rates be lower among gays if AIDS rates were higher amongst gays?

Then where are you numbers to back up your claims? Once again, because you are trying so damned hard to pretend that you ever said it, you said, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." Put up some numbers to prove this claim. All you have given was numbers that deal with one STD out of over a dozen. Just because the rate of HIV is higher among homosexuals does not automatically mean that the rate for all STDs is higher among homosexuals. That is a logical fallacy known as the fallacy of composition.

You can make wild, specious claims all you want, but until you provide some actual numbers to prove that the rate of ALL STDs is higher among heterosexuals than homosexuals you are nothing but a damned liar.

Okay.
So you admit that HIV is a problem mainly amongst gay people.
And you have to admit that HIV is the worst STD there is. Right?
That's my point.

Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

And straight sex= problems with hiv as well. It may effect gay people 'more' b ...


JUST hiv/aids? lmao, just? omg.

Try telling your homo partner that you "just" gave him AIDS instead of herpes and see how he responds. "Just"!!! lmao
 
2012-04-27 06:23:01 AM  

giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

aids is a SUBSET of STDs. Why would STD rates be lower among gays if AIDS rates were higher amongst gays?

Then where are you numbers to back up your claims? Once again, because you are trying so damned hard to pretend that you ever said it, you said, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." Put up some numbers to prove this claim. All you have given was numbers that deal with one STD out of over a dozen. Just because the rate of HIV is higher among homosexuals does not automatically mean that the rate for all STDs is higher among homosexuals. That is a logical fallacy known as the fallacy of composition.

You can make wild, specious claims all you want, but until you provide some actual numbers to prove that the rate of ALL STDs is higher among heterosexuals than homosexuals you are nothing but a damned liar.

Okay.
So you admit that HIV is a problem mainly amongst gay people.
And you have to admit that HIV is the worst STD there is. Right?
That's my point.

Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

And straight sex= problems with hiv as well. It may effect gay people 'more' but that's not rea ...

that's the whole point of my arguments. That unnatural gay sex leads to HIV. HIV is the worst STD. That's my point. lol, what is so hard about this?


That's what I've wasted my time on? wow. I thought it would be better than that. Yes, we have a problem in the gay community. But if it was the result of 'unnatural' sex, AIDS would have been around a lot longer. male/male and male/female anal has been around for thousands of years. Why is HIV a recent thing if that's what causes it?
 
2012-04-27 06:24:22 AM  

truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Of course it does. You guys admit that gays spread HIV. And now I ask if you'd rather have HIV or herpes and you say neither and avoid my question.

We are avoiding the question because you still have not proven that "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." All you have proven is that one single STD is more prevalent among homosexual men. You have completely ignored all the other STDs and homosexual women.

lmao.

so you admit that gay men spread the worst STD there is. That's my point.

Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:
[img.photobucket.com image 500x271]

AIDS is a SUBSET of STDS! AIDS is the WORST STD there is! That's my point! Gay men are the most responsible for this, right? That's my point. How many times do I have to say it?

So why is it important to make that point?



Okay. Let's say I figured out why people get lung cancer. Let's say that I figured out that people who smoke are more likely to get lung cancer. So I tell people to stop smoking so that they don't get lung cancer. Are you gonna come in and tell me to stop telling people about the problems of smoking?
 
2012-04-27 06:25:58 AM  
I nuked one troll in this thread and got rid of over 100 responses. This is why you shouldn't feed trolls.

Also, it's a private Catholic school. I went to one of those myself, back in the day. They can uninvite whomever they want for whatever reason they want. However, we're all free to mock them for that decision, and rightfully point out how backwards and idiotic it is.
 
2012-04-27 06:26:28 AM  

giftedmadness: truthseeker2083: truthseeker2083: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Keizer_Ghidorah: giftedmadness: Because the conservatives have been very successful in making sure that there has been NO sexual education in relation to gay society.

gays have to be educated on how to have sex.

So do straights, dipshiat. Everyone needs sex education. Right now we're failing horribly on providing EVERYONE with decent sex education, mostly because idiots think that "abstinence only" is the miracle method.

farking hell, you really are a twelve-year-old.

why do you keep ignoring the facts that gays get AIDS more than straights?

When did this suddenly become only about AIDS? Not too long ago it was about STDs in general. Now it is only about AIDS? Looks like you did move the goalposts!

aids is a SUBSET of STDs. Why would STD rates be lower among gays if AIDS rates were higher amongst gays?

Then where are you numbers to back up your claims? Once again, because you are trying so damned hard to pretend that you ever said it, you said, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." Put up some numbers to prove this claim. All you have given was numbers that deal with one STD out of over a dozen. Just because the rate of HIV is higher among homosexuals does not automatically mean that the rate for all STDs is higher among homosexuals. That is a logical fallacy known as the fallacy of composition.

You can make wild, specious claims all you want, but until you provide some actual numbers to prove that the rate of ALL STDs is higher among heterosexuals than homosexuals you are nothing but a damned liar.

Okay.
So you admit that HIV is a problem mainly amongst gay people.
And you have to admit that HIV is the worst STD there is. Right?
That's my point.

Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

And straight sex= problems with hiv as well. It may effect gay people 'more' b ...

JUST hiv/aids? lmao, just? omg.

Try telling your homo partner that you "just" gave him AIDS instead of herpes and see how he responds. "Just"!!! lmao


Again, you twist my words. I said you were focusing on just hiv/aids. I didn't say it dismissivly. I revised my words, guess you're not quite a big enough boy to do it where u were wrong.

/I'm clean, so is he, so f*ck off
//I'm done with your goalpost moving, twisting words, and idiotic 'points'
 
2012-04-27 06:29:42 AM  

giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:

[img.photobucket.com image 500x271]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm


That's one. We knew you could do it. Now try the others. You had an s in there. That's plural, so clearly you have similar statistics with the other STDs. Go on. We are waiting.
 
2012-04-27 06:37:05 AM  
Ok look guys, time to get over this one. The Catholics are like the Boy Scouts. They are a private organization, and no matter how much you biatch, they do not have to accept the homosexual lifestyle. Complaining about it is like yelling at a wall..no matter how loud you get, the wall will not care, and will not change its behavior. I'm not saying it is good or right, I am just saying "that's just how it is, deal with it."
 
2012-04-27 06:42:18 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness: Gay sex = problems with the most dangerous STD there is. You admit that. That's all I'm trying to say.

Stop moving the damn goalposts you lying sack of shiatt, because that is not what you said! You said, and I quote, "Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact." And, once again because it bears repeating:

[img.photobucket.com image 500x271]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm

That's one. We knew you could do it. Now try the others. You had an s in there. That's plural, so clearly you have similar statistics with the other STDs. Go on. We are waiting.


lmao

that's like saying, "yeah....so you proved I killed 5 people, but prove I killed the 6th person!"


haha
 
2012-04-27 06:44:11 AM  

Mock26: ghostwind: Mock26:
Atheism is the biggest source of hate there is. Their entire belief system is dependent on mocking other peoples beliefs. True atheists would just leave people be and keep their comments to themselves.

So your argument is that athiesism is the biggest source of hate, but it isn't, since true Athiests would leave people alone? But since true Athiests are the only Athiests, then Athiests and Athieism really are not a source of hate, are they?

Misquote. That was NOT me that said that. That was YELLY.


my bad, thanks for clarifying...
 
2012-04-27 06:45:52 AM  

giftedmadness: The Envoy: giftedmadness: It's amazing that you keep focusing on other STDs when AIDS is the one that actually KILLS PEOPLE!

It's not at all amazing, considering someone said this: giftedmadness: Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact.

That "someone" is of course you. So put those goalposts back sunshine. Nice try.

you do realize that AIDS is a SUBSET of STDs, right? And that AIDs is the worst STD to have, right? Can you see the logic now?


I do realise that and have not made any contention otherwise. That is not the point you originally made though, to which I responded. You have since changed your tack. Maybe you should try to be a bit more organised and cogent? This will prevent giving the impression that you're an ignorant child. You said "STDs" not "AIDS" specifically. I even quoted what you said to help you out. This is why you're having difficulties. Can you see the logic now?
 
2012-04-27 06:46:31 AM  

giftedmadness: Mock26: giftedmadness:
No.

Homosexuals spread STDs at a MUCH higher rate than hetros. It's a simple fact.

[img.photobucket.com image 500x271]

are you really this ignorant? It's 2012 and you STILL NEED proof that gay men spread STDs more than straight men? Really? LMAO


If it is such a straightforward statement, you should have no problem providing some evidence to back up your claim.
 
2012-04-27 06:46:36 AM  
You've got to think of this from the point of view of the church here. If they did let this guy speak think of all the terrible things that would happen at the graduation ceremony....Hmm, nothing, that's no good.

...okay, think of all the terrible things that would happen to these kids because of being exposed to a gay person. Crickets there too. Let's keep going.

....okay, think of what would happen to the church. It would imply that homosexuality is acceptable in their church. They'd likely loose all association with and funding from the diocese.

It's always about money.
 
2012-04-27 06:50:08 AM  
did you know AIDS is a SUBSET of STDs and is the worst STD? So saying that gays spread AIDS and gays spread STDs is basically the same thing? Right?

All of you are hooked up on semantics when the real thing that is actually killing gay people is looking you right in the face and you are DENYING IT!
 
2012-04-27 06:54:39 AM  

giftedmadness: AIDS is a SUBSET of STDS! AIDS is the WORST STD there is! That's my point! Gay men are the most responsible for this, right? That's my point. How many times do I have to say it?


You can say it until your ill-concealed homosexual tendencies disappear due to the power of prayer, it won't make you right.

Today, HIV/AIDS is the leading cause of death in sub-Saharan Africa and the fourth biggest killer in the world. The number of HIV infections is equally distributed between men and women, but infection rates in young women in today's Africa are close to three times higher than those among young men, reflecting the degree to which gender inequities are driving the epidemic, as many women in developing countries lack socio-economic independence, education and access to health information and services, and have difficulty avoiding exposure to the virus.

Sub-Saharan Africa remains the hardest-hit region in the world, with at least 25 million infected people, accounting for 70% of the people living with HIV/AIDS and 77% of AIDS deaths worldwide.


You are of course aware of the overwhelming preponderance of heterosexuality in sub-Saharan Africe, aren't you? If not, then you should be. These are not countries that tolerate homosexuality. The statistic above regarding women's infection rates bear this out.

So, according to the World Health Organisation, approximately three quarters of all worldwide deaths due to AIDS are as a result of heterosexual practices, with young women bearing the brunt. This citation disproves your contention that gay men are the group most responsible for the spread of AIDS. Thank you for playing.

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2012-04-27 06:54:49 AM  
Oh come on! When some bible thumpin' redneck refuses to inoculate his kids because the skywizard told him to, the whole of fark is too little to contain the anger of its posters. We cry 'herd immunity' and 'child abuse' till morn'. But when there is an obviously similar health-problem (the enormously disproportional incidence of HIV among male homosexuals) comes up for discussion, we have to shrug and go all PC about it? The fact that, in spite of aquired knowledge, folks (and especially at-risk folks) choose to do the dirty with a stranger without a rubber, is a problem of us all, and it should be acknowledged as such.
 
2012-04-27 06:55:41 AM  

giftedmadness: did you know AIDS is a SUBSET of STDs and is the worst STD? So saying that gays spread AIDS and gays spread STDs is basically the same thing? Right?

All of you are hooked up on semantics when the real thing that is actually killing gay people is looking you right in the face and you are DENYING IT!


Trololol

And

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-27 07:01:05 AM  
but but....but AFRICA! lmao.


amazing.

Are you denying that gay sex is the biggest cause of AIDS in the modern world?
 
2012-04-27 07:02:20 AM  
give me a citation that gay sex isn't to blame for AIDS in Africa.
 
2012-04-27 07:05:34 AM  

giftedmadness: but but....but AFRICA! lmao.


amazing.

Are you denying that gay sex is the biggest cause of AIDS in the modern world?


In the western world, yes. In Africa it is heterosexual practices (including lots of war-related rape), probably combined with some genetic predisposition to susceptibility to the virus. Both should be addressed.
 
2012-04-27 07:05:39 AM  
also....I live in the USA. Not Africa. Nice deflection.
 
2012-04-27 07:09:12 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: giftedmadness: but but....but AFRICA! lmao.


amazing.

Are you denying that gay sex is the biggest cause of AIDS in the modern world?

In the western world, yes. In Africa it is heterosexual practices (including lots of war-related rape), probably combined with some genetic predisposition to susceptibility to the virus. Both should be addressed.


are you equating rape with gay sex?
 
2012-04-27 07:10:04 AM  

giftedmadness: also....I live in the USA. Not Africa. Nice deflection.


You are a retard... stop writing your thoughts on the internet, you make the racist 12 year olds on XBox Live seem intelligent... If you can actually formulate these words into comprehension, then for all that you hold sacred, stop typing...
 
2012-04-27 07:13:55 AM  
do you have a point to express, CeroX or do you just want to call people names?
 
2012-04-27 07:14:14 AM  

giftedmadness: Coming on a Bicycle: giftedmadness: but but....but AFRICA! lmao.


amazing.

Are you denying that gay sex is the biggest cause of AIDS in the modern world?

In the western world, yes. In Africa it is heterosexual practices (including lots of war-related rape), probably combined with some genetic predisposition to susceptibility to the virus. Both should be addressed.

are you equating rape with gay sex?


No. I have a purely medical perspective.
 
2012-04-27 07:20:25 AM  

giftedmadness: but but....but AFRICA! lmao.

amazing.

Are you denying that gay sex is the biggest cause of AIDS in the modern world?


If you're going to specify, do that in your original argument. Back-pedalling like this simply shows that you're wrong. You did not specify a particular country, hemisphere, state or socio-economic area. You made a blanket statement which I just proved was wrong. You'll get over it.

giftedmadness: give me a citation that gay sex isn't to blame for AIDS in Africa.


OK: Few studies provided data about the prevalence of male same-sex behaviour in the general population up to 2007: the Democratic Republic of Congo, none;19 Kenya, 0·03%20 to 0·9%;21 South Africa, 0·06%22 to 3·6%;23 and Tanzania 2·3%.24

This report also makes this observation: "In practice, the model of bidirectional heterosexual HIV transmission in Africa quickly replaced the established understanding of epidemic dynamics elsewhere, and the possibility that MSM might feature within this model soon disappeared from discussion.8-10,12"

In layman's terms, MSM is not responsible for AIDS in Africa (NB: This is using your definition of "responsible". If anything is "responsible" for AIDS a rational person would have to refer to AIDS in primates and the mutations and practices that allowed it to transfer to humans and thence to Patient Zero as the start of the epidemic, which you're not doing. Homosexuality did not "create" the virus. Natural selection and mutation did.
 
2012-04-27 07:26:56 AM  
If he was touching boys and and giving sermons, would it be okay for him to speak then?
 
2012-04-27 07:42:25 AM  

Enemabag Jones: He should become a priest and then he can have sex with all of the underage boys he wants, no problem.

/That took some rewriting.


It's not gay if you're the one doing the penetrating.
 
2012-04-27 07:47:42 AM  

dpaul007: Enemabag Jones: He should become a priest and then he can have sex with all of the underage boys he wants, no problem.

/That took some rewriting.

It's not gay if you're the one doing the penetrating.


I thought it was gay if the balls touched? That's how the Family Value Republicans® justify the anonymous airport stall sex.
 
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