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(Think Progress)   Is it better to feed 280,000 hungry children for 10 years, or use the same money to give a tax break for 3340 millionaires for one year? If you have to ask, you're not a Republican   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 486
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2012-04-26 04:51:25 PM

chiefsfaninkc: Here is an interesting idea why don't poor people quit having children they cannot feed?


That's why the House Republicans favor increasing funding for Planned Parenthood, right?
 
2012-04-26 04:51:26 PM
www.setoyaki.net

Unfairly victimised and suffocated by regulations and taxes.

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Lazy welfare queen getting fat off the government teat.

/This is what Republicans actually believe.
//At this point, Emperor Palpatine would ask them to tone down the evilness.
 
2012-04-26 04:51:26 PM
I read on the internet once how in order to even become a member of the GOP now on a national level you had to either rob a blind man or kick a little cripple child just to prove you're not a liberal plant.

Purity tests are serious business!
 
2012-04-26 04:51:30 PM
Come on Liberals

Is your war on Women not working?

so we have a new war on starving Fat kids?
 
2012-04-26 04:51:40 PM

winterwhile: Headso: So you libtards are trying to tell me all the poors have refrigerators but no food???

and Cars and Tv's and free this and that

but lets not notice that Liberals fail at everything they do


winterwhile: Headso: So you libtards are trying to tell me all the poors have refrigerators but no food???

and Cars and Tv's and free this and that

but lets not notice that Liberals fail at everything they do


You libtards wish you were this rich!
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2012-04-26 04:51:58 PM
When they cut the funding for a breakfast program like this in NJ the complaintants failed to mention that only 30% of the students actually showed up at 7am or 730am for the free breakfast for poor kids, if the food wasn't eaten it was thrown out....ie wasted.

Sure it makes you feel good thinking that this money helps these kids but how many kids actually utilize the program and what percent of this program ends up in the garbage.

I don't mind feeding the needy, I have a big problem with wasted money....the devil is always in the details.
 
2012-04-26 04:52:51 PM

randomjsa: Is it better to fund Planned Parenthood or feed children?


If you fund planned parenthood you won't have children to feed, amirite???
 
2012-04-26 04:52:58 PM

randomjsa: Is it better to fund Planned Parenthood or feed children?

I propose slashing all PP funding and using instead to feed children. If you disagree with me then you're a reprehensible monster who doesn't want to feed hungry children.

We could also cut all US ties and funding to the UN, and use that money to feed children.

We could also cut lavish pension and benefits for public sector workers and use that money to feed children.


Trick question!

If we fund Planned Parenthood, there won't be as many poor kids to feed!

Besides, if we cut the taxes of millionaires, that's the same as spending money! At least that is what I was told about the 1/3 of the stimulus being tax cuts.
 
2012-04-26 04:53:06 PM
It's all part of the GOP plan. Keep these children poor and hungry and sooner than later, they'll have no other choice but to join the military. That way, the GOP's desire to bomb countries with brown people continues to flourish. Don't you get it? Use America's poor brown-skinned people to blow up other countries' poor brown-skinned people. While whitey sits home and makes MORE money. It's brilliant!
 
2012-04-26 04:53:07 PM

Fat Old Broad: tricycleracer: chiefsfaninkc: Here is an interesting idea why don't poor people quit having children they cannot feed?

Oh my God it's that easy. Why has no one thought of this before?

Quick! Start a Facebook status updating campaign! Those solve problems!

People shouldn't have kids they can't take care of, but the reality is that they do, and the kids are not to blame. I know. I come from one of those families.

What if you were one of those children? How would you want to be treated?


The children are immaterial. The point is to make the parents understand that they should be responsible for their actions. If that means the kids suffer, then it's the parents' fault, and they must be made to feel bad; but it's not the politicians fault that they had to do these things--it's all on the parents. Now hand me my bowl of water and a towel.

See how that works?
 
2012-04-26 04:53:11 PM
yeah, but how much are those poor kids gonna contribute to my campaign?


God Bless the US Dollar


Government of the Money, For the Money, By the Money
 
2012-04-26 04:53:25 PM

Giltric: I don't mind feeding the needy, I have a big problem with wasted money....the devil is always in the details.


So, clearly, the solution is to scrap the program and give the money to rich people.
 
2012-04-26 04:53:37 PM
I don't see the problem here libs, Jonathan Swift wanted to just kill the children and eat them so the GOP's idea is clearly humane in comparison and you libs love the Euros so suck it up.
 
2012-04-26 04:53:45 PM

SlothB77: Cutting taxes for the rich will lead to more prosperity which will lead to well more than 280,000 children who were hungry, no longer being hungry anymore. So, cutting taxes for the rich will actually help out more children.


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/Amazing that after years of showing this to NOT be the case, that people are still buying this BS talking point
//You have to be trolling because no one can be that gullible AND stupid
 
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2012-04-26 04:53:46 PM

qorkfiend: alaric3: I suggest compromise:
Can't we feed 280,000 hungry children to 3340 Millionaires?

I have an alternate compromise. Let's feed 3340 millionaires to 280,000 hungry children.


That wouldn't last the kids very long. Assuming each fat cat millionaire is on average 250lbs, that is only 835,000 pounds of millionaire. Subtract for bones and other inedible parts, you'd be lucky to get enough food for more than a day or two.

So first, we have to put the millionaires into a breeding program to make it sustainable.
 
2012-04-26 04:53:49 PM

fracto73: Lost Thought 00: Why the f*ck should children have to pay for their food? Shouldn't all school meals be free? What's wrong with our society that we have to turn a profit by feeding kids?


School lunches don't turn a profit.


They are run by third party contracting firms (usually). Those firms are only taking the business because they turn a profit on it.
 
2012-04-26 04:53:58 PM

Giltric: When they cut the funding for a breakfast program like this in NJ the complaintants failed to mention that only 30% of the students actually showed up at 7am or 730am for the free breakfast for poor kids, if the food wasn't eaten it was thrown out....ie wasted.

Sure it makes you feel good thinking that this money helps these kids but how many kids actually utilize the program and what percent of this program ends up in the garbage.

I don't mind feeding the needy, I have a big problem with wasted money....the devil is always in the details.


So give the money to the rich where we know nothing will be wasted.
 
2012-04-26 04:54:03 PM
This might be a tad derpy but:

Republicans: We love all children until they are born.
 
2012-04-26 04:54:03 PM

randomjsa: Is it better to fund Planned Parenthood or feed children?

I propose slashing all PP funding and using instead to feed children. If you disagree with me then you're a reprehensible monster who doesn't want to feed hungry children.

We could also cut all US ties and funding to the UN, and use that money to feed children.

We could also cut lavish pension and benefits for public sector workers and use that money to feed children.



Why not focus on the actual Republican plan to cut food for kids and give rich folks a tax break? Or are you just trying to cut other things to give rich folks a tax break, because they will get around to your suggestions. Cutting food for the kids for 10 years only pays for 1 year of tax breaks, they need things to cut next year too.
 
2012-04-26 04:54:24 PM
How is this tax cut directly related to if kids get fed. It is not like we are running a surplus. How about we cut spending and raise taxes? Let the feeding of its citizens fall to the states. Local politicians are not going to last long if kids start dropping in their district and it is much easier to tar and feather the local ones.
 
2012-04-26 04:54:27 PM

Giltric: only 30% of the students actually showed up at 7am or 730am for the free breakfast for poor kids


isn't 30% kinda a lot of kids that were helped?
 
2012-04-26 04:55:42 PM

Lost Thought 00: fracto73: Lost Thought 00: Why the f*ck should children have to pay for their food? Shouldn't all school meals be free? What's wrong with our society that we have to turn a profit by feeding kids?


School lunches don't turn a profit.

They are run by third party contracting firms (usually). Those firms are only taking the business because they turn a profit on it.



Not in the schools I've worked in.
 
2012-04-26 04:55:51 PM

GAT_00: Rev.K: Holy f*ck.

I thought the headline was some sort of exaggeration or hypothetical, but I clicked the article and sweet f*cking Christ, there it is.

[i575.photobucket.com image 600x486]

These people are goddamn tyrants.


Joy, decrease in CPS & Foster services. As if those people who are working in the system aren't already overworked, underpaid and high turnover already. And, you know, Title 19 doesn't cover everything.

/grumble grumble foster care something something can't talk about grumble grumble on internet.
 
2012-04-26 04:56:47 PM
TRICK QUESTION.

If they were fed for 10 years, they wouldn't be hungry, right?

Therefore, tax cuts for the rich.
 
2012-04-26 04:56:51 PM

Headso: Giltric: only 30% of the students actually showed up at 7am or 730am for the free breakfast for poor kids

isn't 30% kinda a lot of kids that were helped?


Yes, but the important thing is that some of the money was wasted, so the only thing for it is to scrap the whole program and let those kids starve.
 
2012-04-26 04:57:08 PM

Tigger: You also spew bullshiat. This country is not just Dems v Repubs. There are many others out there that do not subscribe to the two party system.

They are called "people that won't admit to being Republican"


Yeah, the main difference between a Republican and a Libertarian is the latter's unwillingness to pay for anything they aren't personally using right now.
 
2012-04-26 04:57:25 PM
Actually, you would be a Republican. You'd be Dwight Eisenhower.
 
2012-04-26 04:57:33 PM

busy chillin': This might be a tad derpy but:

Republicans: We love all children until they are born.


I would've thought that was derpy a few years ago but with the GOP doing more and more BS like this. Sometimes if I really wonder if that is actually the truth about the GOP.
 
2012-04-26 04:57:39 PM

grimeystubs: Local politicians are not going to last long if kids start dropping in their district and it is much easier to tar and feather the local ones.


Unless their entire district is poor.
 
2012-04-26 04:57:45 PM

Headso: So you libtards are trying to tell me all the poors have refrigerators but no food???


i hear they use those refrigerators for makeshift A/C units and store their food in underground caches with their gold.
 
2012-04-26 04:58:07 PM
The Republican budget sells this bill as an effort to "reduce lower priority spending" to avert military cuts that will otherwise take place in January 2013 due to the debt deal agreed to last summer.

The party of smaller government.

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More planes. Less pears.
 
2012-04-26 04:58:17 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: I don't mind feeding the needy, I have a big problem with wasted money....the devil is always in the details.

So, clearly, the solution is to scrap the program and give the money to rich people.


Maybe the program could withstand a reduction in its budget due to the number of kids its supposed to help aren't showing up to get the help provided.

As far as giving it to the rich....I believe you should fight to keep as much of your income as possible no matter if you make 10k a year or 10 billion.


How comes its only the defense budget that wastes money and not the helping people budget. Some company could be charging us 10$ for a 6 ounce container of nutritious milk for all I know.
 
2012-04-26 04:58:20 PM

Mugato: You have to respect the gleefully, unapologetic evil of the Republican party. Governor Scott's latest thing was cutting funding for battered women's shelters. It's like tying a girl to the railroad tracks at this point, it's hilarious


Indeed. These guys are starting to make Snidely Whiplash look like Mother Teresa.
 
2012-04-26 04:58:50 PM

grimeystubs: How is this tax cut directly related to if kids get fed. It is not like we are running a surplus. How about we cut spending and raise taxes? Let the feeding of its citizens fall to the states. Local politicians are not going to last long if kids start dropping in their district and it is much easier to tar and feather the local ones.


Our country isn't going to last long if we refuse to accept the modern era.
 
2012-04-26 04:59:57 PM

Giltric: How comes its only the defense budget that wastes money and not the helping people budget. Some company could be charging us 10$ for a 6 ounce container of nutritious milk for all I know.


Gee, then maybe we should look into that and figure out where the waste is. But, no. Your whole argument is disingenuous because you're using "there may be waste" as justification to scrap the whole thing. Why are you rightists so dishonest?
 
2012-04-26 05:00:09 PM

Headso: Giltric: only 30% of the students actually showed up at 7am or 730am for the free breakfast for poor kids

isn't 30% kinda a lot of kids that were helped?


Sure but it doesn;t justify the other 70% of the programs budget that winds up wasted. I don;t have a problem helping those out who help themselves..ie shows up for the help.....help me help you I think is the phrase.
 
2012-04-26 05:00:26 PM

meow said the dog: Everyone is so quick to make the judgment but perhaps I should be the judge of this issue as I am the person who so much enjoys being the judge of things because I have watched many episodes of Judy the Judging Lady and have learned about how to do the judging. For this purpose I see two sides to this issue. One side of this says that the children should be treated with the respect and the dignity. The other side of this says the rich people should be treated with the respect and the dignity.

The first side of this issue is that the children should be treated with the respect and the dignity upon which we would give to a kitten. This side of the issue says that the special snowflakes must all receive the food even though there is the crisis of which I am speaking of obesity in the country of this. We should give them the food and also the shelter so that these kids do not grow up to kill the rich people out of the spite of themselves. Those would would subscribe to this issue include Jesus of the Christian Faith and Jerry Sandusky.

The other side of this issue says look no one is going to buy a car with fed children. And fed children do not get you to go on the vacation where you create the jobs for the Dominicans at your island retreat. And also no children are going to help to make more money for Mitchell Romney and Annabelle Romney because children are not those who pay taxes unless they go to the working camps. So fark the children.

Now I am not sure which side of this issue would be the side of which I would rule as I have not yet seen the pudginess of the children who are complaining of not having the free lunch of which there is no such thing of. Because look if you give the free lunch to the children then someone might not get the side of caviar with the polar bear steak.


Sarah?
 
2012-04-26 05:00:32 PM

Giltric: A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: I don't mind feeding the needy, I have a big problem with wasted money....the devil is always in the details.

So, clearly, the solution is to scrap the program and give the money to rich people.

Maybe the program could withstand a reduction in its budget due to the number of kids its supposed to help aren't showing up to get the help provided.

As far as giving it to the rich....I believe you should fight to keep as much of your income as possible no matter if you make 10k a year or 10 billion.


How comes its only the defense budget that wastes money and not the helping people budget. Some company could be charging us 10$ for a 6 ounce container of nutritious milk for all I know.


If we cut even one dollar from defense we won't be able to hold off the Soviet threat!
 
2012-04-26 05:01:28 PM

Giltric: I believe you should fight to keep as much of your income as possible no matter if you make 10k a year or 10 billion.


If you are poor or middle class you might also entertain the idea that you are just one bad accident or illness away from needing social services so maybe not advocating for their elimination is a good idea and should be part of your accounting.
 
2012-04-26 05:02:37 PM

Gyrfalcon: Fat Old Broad: tricycleracer: chiefsfaninkc:

The children are immaterial. The point is to make the parents understand that they should be responsible for their actions. If that means the kids suffer, then it's the parents' fault, and they must be made to feel bad; but it's not the politicians fault that they had to do these things--it's all on the parents. Now hand me my bowl of water and a towel.

See how that works?


Ya, that should get some nibbles.
 
2012-04-26 05:02:45 PM

Giltric: How comes its only the defense budget that wastes money and not the helping people budget. Some company could be charging us 10$ for a 6 ounce container of nutritious milk for all I know.


LEAVE THE DEFENSE BUDGET ALONE!!!

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/Seems to be the new GOP talking point when it comes to budget cuts
//So serious question: Do you think the Defense part of the budget is riddled with as much waste and fraud as the rest of the government?
 
2012-04-26 05:03:01 PM

Giltric: When they cut the funding for a breakfast program like this in NJ the complaintants failed to mention that only 30% of the students actually showed up at 7am or 730am for the free breakfast for poor kids, if the food wasn't eaten it was thrown out....ie wasted.


Well, I guess if you say so.
 
2012-04-26 05:03:43 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: How comes its only the defense budget that wastes money and not the helping people budget. Some company could be charging us 10$ for a 6 ounce container of nutritious milk for all I know.

Gee, then maybe we should look into that and figure out where the waste is. But, no. Your whole argument is disingenuous because you're using "there may be waste" as justification to scrap the whole thing. Why are you rightists so dishonest?


So your claim is that none of the money in this program is wasted?

I'm not saying scrap the whole thing....I guess when all else fails you can always lie about something someone else says, that always wins arguments.
 
2012-04-26 05:04:50 PM
I didn't have to ask, and my decision was for the children. A society is measured best by how they care for how they treat the young, the old, the infirm, etc.

I normally lean to the right of the aisle.

Does this mean I have to turn in my card?
 
2012-04-26 05:05:10 PM

Giltric: Sure but it doesn;t justify the other 70% of the programs budget that winds up wasted. I don;t have a problem helping those out who help themselves..ie shows up for the help


The rhetoric from republicans/conservatives always revolves around eliminating or privatizing these kinds of programs not streamlining them. They would actually be a useful political party if they always fought to streamline programs instead of always fighting to add a layer of profit margin to them.
 
2012-04-26 05:05:34 PM

Giltric: I believe you should fight to keep as much of your income as possible no matter if you make 10k a year or 10 billion.


Well then that is where you and I fundamentally disagree. You see, for the person making 10,000 a year, every dollar counts. For the person making $10 billion, after the first $1 billion, its all gravy.
 
2012-04-26 05:05:37 PM

chiefsfaninkc: Here is an interesting idea why don't poor people quit having children they cannot feed?


Why?
a) republicans have eliminated teaching about contraception in the poorest states in the nation
b) republicans have drastically cut any measures for family planning in the poorest states in the nation.
c) republicans have drastically cut any ability to get abortions in the poorest states in the nation.

Are you dense, or just blind?
 
2012-04-26 05:05:59 PM

Giltric: How comes its only the defense budget that wastes money and not the helping people budget. Some company could be charging us 10$ for a 6 ounce container of nutritious milk for all I know.


Right. If something might not be running at 100% efficiency, best just to scrap it, amirite?

I certainly hope you never post from work.
 
2012-04-26 05:06:18 PM
F*ck the hungry kids!They are going to be criminals anyway. Let them sell meth to each other and create their own economy.

I need more of these!!!!!

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//Bonus: Captcha was "that hurts"
///Better take some aspirin you poors. We ain't paying for you to see OUR doctors. Let it hurt, suckers!
 
2012-04-26 05:06:35 PM
$33 billion. Hell, that's just a tad more than one year's worth of cash pissed away on Obama's phantom green jobs programs.
 
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