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2012-04-26 03:52:07 PM
"Thwow them to the floow!"
 
2012-04-26 03:52:29 PM
Yeah and you know what else, Subby? I heard some states have the death penalty, because they think that making examples of criminals will deter further crime. And that crimes that really irritate people get big sentences so that people will be deterred from drunk driving, rape, and other bad things.
 
2012-04-26 03:54:20 PM

colon_pow: A Dark Evil Omen: OgreMagi: They won't be happy until we're back to hunter gather status because all manufacturing has been eliminated. No, they won't be happy even then, because we'll be hunting deer and cooking the meat over an open fire (OMG! Pollution!).

You're a moron. No, seriously, you're a goddamned moron, this is inane bullshiat that is sub-crappy-email-forward-level, and I hope someone teaches you what a campaign of hate is. Maybe you'll even survive it, you piece of shiat.

CRUCIFY HIM!


It's pretty much the response I expected from the Fark Derp Brigade.

The EPA blames businesses for water getting polluted as a result of fraking, though there is no evidence of it. In fact, it later turns out to be a false acusation. And that seems to be ok because "businesses are evil". The EPA is power crazed and out of control. Allowing this to continue will give the GOP the ammunition they need to eliminate the agency entirely instead of getting the EPA to do their job properly. Yeah, that will work out nicely. But the Derp Brigade assumes that because I think the EPA needs to be dealt with properly, I am a GOP shill who wants to line our beaches with oil wells.
 
2012-04-26 04:01:30 PM

OgreMagi: colon_pow: A Dark Evil Omen: OgreMagi: They won't be happy until we're back to hunter gather status because all manufacturing has been eliminated. No, they won't be happy even then, because we'll be hunting deer and cooking the meat over an open fire (OMG! Pollution!).

You're a moron. No, seriously, you're a goddamned moron, this is inane bullshiat that is sub-crappy-email-forward-level, and I hope someone teaches you what a campaign of hate is. Maybe you'll even survive it, you piece of shiat.

CRUCIFY HIM!

It's pretty much the response I expected from the Fark Derp Brigade.

The EPA blames businesses for water getting polluted as a result of fraking, though there is no evidence of it. In fact, it later turns out to be a false acusation. And that seems to be ok because "businesses are evil". The EPA is power crazed and out of control. Allowing this to continue will give the GOP the ammunition they need to eliminate the agency entirely instead of getting the EPA to do their job properly. Yeah, that will work out nicely. But the Derp Brigade assumes that because I think the EPA needs to be dealt with properly, I am a GOP shill who wants to line our beaches with oil wells.


No, people think you're an idiot because you think the EPA wants 0 emissions and 100% cleanliness out of everyone, or they'll maliciously run them out of business.
 
2012-04-26 04:04:10 PM
Nope, freedom. They said I hadn't done anything, so I was free to go, live on an island somewhere.



Nah, I'm only pulling yer leg, it's crucifixion really.
 
2012-04-26 04:04:37 PM

OgreMagi: colon_pow: A Dark Evil Omen: OgreMagi: They won't be happy until we're back to hunter gather status because all manufacturing has been eliminated. No, they won't be happy even then, because we'll be hunting deer and cooking the meat over an open fire (OMG! Pollution!).

You're a moron. No, seriously, you're a goddamned moron, this is inane bullshiat that is sub-crappy-email-forward-level, and I hope someone teaches you what a campaign of hate is. Maybe you'll even survive it, you piece of shiat.

CRUCIFY HIM!

It's pretty much the response I expected from the Fark Derp Brigade.

The EPA blames businesses for water getting polluted as a result of fraking, though there is no evidence of it. In fact, it later turns out to be a false acusation. And that seems to be ok because "businesses are evil". The EPA is power crazed and out of control. Allowing this to continue will give the GOP the ammunition they need to eliminate the agency entirely instead of getting the EPA to do their job properly. Yeah, that will work out nicely. But the Derp Brigade assumes that because I think the EPA needs to be dealt with properly, I am a GOP shill who wants to line our beaches with oil wells.


The EPA is studying the impacts of fraking and has not yet released it's final report.
 
2012-04-26 04:06:36 PM
LasersHurt


OBAMA PERSONALLY TOLD THIS MAN TO SAY THIS

OBAMA IS A VERY BAD PERSON



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2012-04-26 04:09:59 PM

OgreMagi: The EPA is a power crazed agency that needs to be reigned in. Yes, we want clean air and water, but we also would like jobs.


Yes, you can clearly see in the graph below where job creation completely nosedived in 1970 after the creation of the EPA.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-26 04:10:39 PM
Claims a Republican politician in the pocket of big oil.

EPA = we don't want you to poison our water.
GOP = Our masters....er, we don't want you to kill jobs. Why do you kill jobs?
 
2012-04-26 04:13:00 PM

OgreMagi: Yes, we want clean air and water, but we also would like jobs. It's not possible (with current technology) to be 100% clean. There will always be pollution to some degree. A reasonable trade-off is required,


Newsflash: Deregulation doesn't create jobs. Didn't 30 years ago and doesn't now. Supply side economics doesn't create jobs, subsidies don't create jobs, money doesn't create jobs, no-risk investments don't create jobs.

Consumer demand creates jobs. Consumer demand drives commerce, which compels businesses to expand operations and hire labor, which creates jobs. If there is no demand and products/services aren't being purchases, there's no incentive to hire.

Once again: Demand for work creates jobs.

Don't worry about regulations stifling business or businesses not having the money. If there's work to be done, they will find the money. They will borrow it, sell off stock, apply for grants/subsidies or do whatever it takes to finance the additional work. But they have always been able to find the money from somewhere, if the work is in demand.
 
2012-04-26 04:13:32 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: OgreMagi: You assholes who think it's ok to create a campaign of hate towards a business are going to be farking surprised when the same tactic is used against someone or something you support.

Punishing lawbreakers for breaking the law, within the bounds set by the law == campaign of hate.

You stupid farking asshole.


Then you would have no problem if, hypothetically speaking, Mitt Romney were to become the next president and appointed a new head to the EPA who decided that he was going to focus on, and make crucifixion like examples of, companies who produce and use batteries, like those that are used in hybrid and electrical vehicles or in conjunction with solar panels, because of the environmental impact that they can have when they aren't properly disposed of and dangerous heavy metals and other substances begin to leak out, right? This new head could have the EPA issue new, more stringent, environmental regulations that would require increased safeguards, precautions, monitoring, and significantly higher fines for incidences where the dangerous substances make it into the environment while also emphasizing to the country the potential dangers by these batteries. Compliance with these new regulations would, of course, also increase the cost of producing and using these batteries and result in increasing the cost of using electrical/hybrid vehicles or solar panels, thereby making them less attractive compared to traditional vehicles or power.

You wouldn't consider that a campaign of hate though, would you? It would just be punishing lawbreakers for breaking the law, within the bounds set by the law, too. Somehow, I can't help but shake the feeling that many of the people who have no problem with the EPA making examples of oil/gas companies would, in fact, have a problem with a more conservative EPA specifically trying to make examples out of green energy companies. The only logical reason that I can come up with that someone could find that one is OK and the other is not is that they like one group but not the other and, because of that, they aren't willing to apply the same standard to both situations.
 
2012-04-26 04:15:35 PM
dancingczars.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-04-26 04:16:33 PM

OgreMagi: You assholes who think it's ok to create a campaign of hate towards a business are going to be farking surprised when the same tactic is used against someone or something you support.


i.qkme.me

/now there's a guy who deserves to be crucified
 
2012-04-26 04:18:29 PM
The real people who need to be "crucified" are the Oklahomans who keep electing this piece of shiat to the US Senate.
 
2012-04-26 04:18:53 PM
Just think of it. Row after row of crosses all across Texas oil fields. Each one carrying another asshole executive, who spent his entire career farking people over for just a little bit more. Now, picture the same scene on Wall Street.

Glorious.
 
2012-04-26 04:19:18 PM

runin800m: A Dark Evil Omen: OgreMagi: You assholes who think it's ok to create a campaign of hate towards a business are going to be farking surprised when the same tactic is used against someone or something you support.

Punishing lawbreakers for breaking the law, within the bounds set by the law == campaign of hate.

You stupid farking asshole.

Then you would have no problem if, hypothetically speaking, Mitt Romney were to become the next president and appointed a new head to the EPA who decided that he was going to focus on, and make crucifixion like examples of, companies who produce and use batteries, like those that are used in hybrid and electrical vehicles or in conjunction with solar panels, because of the environmental impact that they can have when they aren't properly disposed of and dangerous heavy metals and other substances begin to leak out, right? This new head could have the EPA issue new, more stringent, environmental regulations that would require increased safeguards, precautions, monitoring, and significantly higher fines for incidences where the dangerous substances make it into the environment while also emphasizing to the country the potential dangers by these batteries. Compliance with these new regulations would, of course, also increase the cost of producing and using these batteries and result in increasing the cost of using electrical/hybrid vehicles or solar panels, thereby making them less attractive compared to traditional vehicles or power.

You wouldn't consider that a campaign of hate though, would you? It would just be punishing lawbreakers for breaking the law, within the bounds set by the law, too. Somehow, I can't help but shake the feeling that many of the people who have no problem with the EPA making examples of oil/gas companies would, in fact, have a problem with a more conservative EPA specifically trying to make examples out of green energy companies. The only logical reason that I can come up with that someone could find that ...


I would fully support that. If the battery manufacturers are violating the law they should be prosecuted for it, and punished if they are found guilty.
 
2012-04-26 04:19:22 PM

runin800m: You wouldn't consider that a campaign of hate though, would you?


No, you disgusting fark. I sincerely hope that you and OgreMagi both have to walk down the street every day being jeered at. I hope there's a serious discussion in Congress over whether you should have civil rights, with the sides being "fark no" and "well, maybe, but probably not". I hope telling someone where you were born is a calculated risk. Finally, I hope, and this is sincere, from the bottom of my cold little heart, that your life ends with some big dudes deciding they just don't like your kind, beating you senseless, and then hanging you from a tree branch to die. Maybe, with your last mortal thought before it goes black, you'll understand what a campaign of hate looks like.

There's plenty of public policy I don't like and I confront it on its own level. If you're enough of a complete blithering imbecile to claim that there's any sort of "campaign of hate" against businesses in the US, you are probably too dumb to keep breathing without help.
 
2012-04-26 04:27:13 PM
A Dark Evil Omen Poopyhead


runin800m: You wouldn't consider that a campaign of hate though, would you?

No, you disgusting fark. I sincerely hope that you and OgreMagi both have to walk down the street every day being jeered at. I hope there's a serious discussion in Congress over whether you should have civil rights, with the sides being "fark no" and "well, maybe, but probably not". I hope telling someone where you were born is a calculated risk. Finally, I hope, and this is sincere, from the bottom of my cold little heart, that your life ends with some big dudes deciding they just don't like your kind, beating you senseless, and then hanging you from a tree branch to die. Maybe, with your last mortal thought before it goes black, you'll understand what a campaign of hate looks like.

There's plenty of public policy I don't like and I confront it on its own level. If you're enough of a complete blithering imbecile to claim that there's any sort of "campaign of hate" against businesses in the US, you are probably too dumb to keep breathing without help.



Wow - why do you hate America so much?
 
2012-04-26 04:42:04 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: runin800m: A Dark Evil Omen: OgreMagi: You assholes who think it's ok to create a campaign of hate towards a business are going to be farking surprised when the same tactic is used against someone or something you support.

Punishing lawbreakers for breaking the law, within the bounds set by the law == campaign of hate.

You stupid farking asshole.

Then you would have no problem if, hypothetically speaking, Mitt Romney were to become the next president and appointed a new head to the EPA who decided that he was going to focus on, and make crucifixion like examples of, companies who produce and use batteries, like those that are used in hybrid and electrical vehicles or in conjunction with solar panels, because of the environmental impact that they can have when they aren't properly disposed of and dangerous heavy metals and other substances begin to leak out, right? This new head could have the EPA issue new, more stringent, environmental regulations that would require increased safeguards, precautions, monitoring, and significantly higher fines for incidences where the dangerous substances make it into the environment while also emphasizing to the country the potential dangers by these batteries. Compliance with these new regulations would, of course, also increase the cost of producing and using these batteries and result in increasing the cost of using electrical/hybrid vehicles or solar panels, thereby making them less attractive compared to traditional vehicles or power.

You wouldn't consider that a campaign of hate though, would you? It would just be punishing lawbreakers for breaking the law, within the bounds set by the law, too. Somehow, I can't help but shake the feeling that many of the people who have no problem with the EPA making examples of oil/gas companies would, in fact, have a problem with a more conservative EPA specifically trying to make examples out of green energy companies. The only logical reason that I can come up with that someone could ...


Yeah me too.

What a shiatty strawman that was huh?
 
2012-04-26 04:47:08 PM

LasersHurt: jjorsett: LasersHurt: OBAMA PERSONALLY TOLD THIS MAN TO SAY THIS

OBAMA IS A VERY BAD PERSON

If the guy keeps his job after saying something like this, it's reasonable to assume that Obama agrees with it.

No, it's not. Obama does not have to personally fire someone who makes a bad analogy - introduced AS a bad analogy - because it hurts your feelings. His NOT firing the man is not a "reasonable" sign of anything at all.


I'll leave the nursing of hurt feelings to you. I'm more in the camp of not wanting my government to employ people who think figuratively slaughtering innocents as a tactic in law enforcement is good policy. It's more than a bad analogy, it's revelatory of a mindset that has no place in this country, and if Obama lets him stay, Obama is responsible for whatever abuses he perpetrates.
 
2012-04-26 04:58:53 PM
Victims. Always.
 
2012-04-26 04:59:01 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: I would fully support that. If the battery manufacturers are violating the law they should be prosecuted for it, and punished if they are found guilty.


Yeah, but I think the part I have more of an issue with is that it isn't necessarily laws that we're talking about, often times they're EPA regulations which have the same practical effect as law. I'm not on here trying to say that I think oil companies should be able to do whatever they like. I was really trying to address the implication that punishing a lawbreaker for breaking the law under the bounds of the law automatically makes it OK and point out that, when we're talking about EPA issued regulations, what is "against the law" can change quickly. So, taking the stance that, since they're just "punishing lawbreakers," there couldn't be any other ulterior motive or agenda might not be wise in the long run.

This isn't to say that I think there is necessarily a 'campaign of hate' against oil/gas companies, but I do think that there is a clear bias against them and preferential treatment is given to others that are more liked and I don't think that the federal government should be showing preference to certain private businesses over others.

A Dark Evil Omen: No, you disgusting fark. I sincerely hope that you and OgreMagi both have to walk down the street every day being jeered at. I hope there's a serious discussion in Congress over whether you should have civil rights, with the sides being "fark no" and "well, maybe, but probably not". I hope telling someone where you were born is a calculated risk. Finally, I hope, and this is sincere, from the bottom of my cold little heart, that your life ends with some big dudes deciding they just don't like your kind, beating you senseless, and then hanging you from a tree branch to die. Maybe, with your last mortal thought before it goes black, you'll understand what a campaign of hate looks like.

There's plenty of public policy I don't like and I confront it on its own level. If you're enough of a complete blithering imbecile to claim that there's any sort of "campaign of hate" against businesses in the US, you are probably too dumb to keep breathing without help.


Wow! So, you want two people you have never met to be jeered at by society, have our civil rights stripped by congress, and then be beaten and eventually hung from a tree until we die, and we deserve this because I questioned whether or not it would be acceptable for the EPA to specifically target a different industry and he suggested that the EPA was on a campaign against oil/gas companies because the EPA hates them?

You sound like such a wonderful person. It's really a shame that more people don't share your attitude, just think about what a wonderful place this could be if that were the case. Well, actually I guess it would probably be more accurate to say what a wonderful place this could be again, since the attitude you are expressing is basically the same as the general attitude in the segregated south for years after the civil war. Those were the good old days, weren't they; when congress discussed whether certain people deserved civil rights and big guys would hang you from a tree if they didn't like the way you looked!
 
2012-04-26 05:00:48 PM

jjorsett: I'm more in the camp of not wanting my government to employ people who think figuratively slaughtering innocents as a tactic in law enforcement is good policy.


The EPA is just like Hitler going after the Joooos!
 
2012-04-26 05:25:29 PM
Difficulty: Inhofe is one of the dumbest motherfarkers to ever hold office.
 
2012-04-26 05:30:00 PM
Why the GOP love affair with pollution? Do they seriously think that companies should be allowed to pollute without logical regulatory constraints? Really?

If the GOP had their way the planet would resemble Saudi Arabia (corrupt ruling class, lots of slaves) and China (corrupt ruling class, lots of slaves, unlimited pollution), only without all the funny colored people and a lot more bibles.
 
2012-04-26 05:34:37 PM

Mikey1969: quatchi: Only real question I have for them is at this point is "How do you get that last nail in?"

They hold the hammer in their teeth?


I was thinking a well aimed nail gun but yours works too.
 
2012-04-26 05:40:35 PM

patrick767: Difficulty: Inhofe is one of the dumbest motherfarkers to ever hold office.


He's not so much dumb as straight-up evil.
 
2012-04-26 05:52:26 PM

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: Why the GOP love affair with pollution? Do they seriously think that companies should be allowed to pollute without logical regulatory constraints? Really?

If the GOP had their way the planet would resemble Saudi Arabia (corrupt ruling class, lots of slaves) and China (corrupt ruling class, lots of slaves, unlimited pollution), only without all the funny colored people and a lot more bibles.


It's not their love of pollution it's the fact that the GOP have been Big Energy's meat puppets for decades now.

Look into how Bush's appointment of Stephen L. Johnson led to an EPA basically being run by a guy who hated the EPA who weakened, demoralized and defanged the agency.

Link
 
2012-04-26 06:05:20 PM
"Round up and kill brown people."
"I would very much like to rape cats."
"Black people should be made into hats."

There, I said it once. Therefore myself and everyone who has ever supported me are responsible for rape and murder. Sounds sensible.
 
2012-04-26 06:05:47 PM
personally I prefer they do this to them

/I also do not enjoy giving free handjobs at gas stations....unlike some people
 
2012-04-26 06:22:41 PM

OgreMagi: Yes, we want clean air and water, but we also would like jobs. It's not possible (with current technology) to be 100% clean. There will always be pollution to some degree. A reasonable trade-off is required, but the EPA's goal is zero emissions, fark the economy.



The sad thing is that most people will dismiss this as a troll or "derp", when in fact it's a matter of record from the horse's mouth.
 
2012-04-26 06:25:44 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

Have you ever been crucified Mr. Venkman?
 
2012-04-26 06:26:40 PM
"just as the Romans crucified random citizens"

Someone knows absolutely nothing whatsoever about Roman law.
 
2012-04-26 06:33:25 PM

Kibbler: "just as the Romans crucified random citizens"

Someone knows absolutely nothing whatsoever about Roman law.


i don't believe it was the law, just a strategy to conquer villages.
 
2012-04-26 06:35:09 PM

vernonFL: BillCo: Just more proof that the Obama Administration is anti-business.

Where is the DOW today? Over 13,000 again?



Let me get this straight: The fact that we've run up nearly $5T in debt in three years and unemployment is just now back down to what it was at Obama's inauguration (for the first time since then) is still somehow Bush's fault, but when the stock market is up that's Obama's personal pro-business tour de force? Hokay, then...
 
2012-04-26 06:38:16 PM

spmkk: vernonFL: BillCo: Just more proof that the Obama Administration is anti-business.

Where is the DOW today? Over 13,000 again?


Let me get this straight: The fact that we've run up nearly $5T in debt in three years and unemployment is just now back down to what it was at Obama's inauguration (for the first time since then) is still somehow Bush's fault, but when the stock market is up that's Obama's personal pro-business tour de force? Hokay, then...


they're printing money. that money ends up in the market.
 
2012-04-26 06:43:17 PM

spmkk: Let me get this straight: The fact that we've run up nearly $5T in debt in three years and unemployment is just now back down to what it was at Obama's inauguration (for the first time since then) is still somehow Bush's fault, but when the stock market is up that's Obama's personal pro-business tour de force? Hokay, then...


No, it's only Obama's fault when the stock market goes down. Sheesh!

spmkk: The sad thing is that most people will dismiss this as a troll or "derp", when in fact it's a matter of record from the horse's mouth.


Context, how does it work?
 
2012-04-26 07:02:22 PM
Good, nailing a few of those bastards to the cross can only help things.
 
2012-04-26 07:05:28 PM

OgreMagi: campaign of hate


Have you always been such a shrill little biatch, or is this a new development?
 
2012-04-26 08:30:42 PM

spmkk: OgreMagi: Yes, we want clean air and water, but we also would like jobs. It's not possible (with current technology) to be 100% clean. There will always be pollution to some degree. A reasonable trade-off is required, but the EPA's goal is zero emissions, fark the economy.


The sad thing is that most people will dismiss this as a troll or "derp", when in fact it's a matter of record from the horse's mouth.


No. It's derp. Meant to troll liberals. RTFP.
 
2012-04-26 08:31:33 PM

spmkk: vernonFL: BillCo: Just more proof that the Obama Administration is anti-business.

Where is the DOW today? Over 13,000 again?


Let me get this straight: The fact that we've run up nearly $5T in debt in three years and unemployment is just now back down to what it was at Obama's inauguration (for the first time since then) is still somehow Bush's fault, but when the stock market is up that's Obama's personal pro-business tour de force? Hokay, then...


This is also derp.

Aren't you glad I clarified those issues?
 
2012-04-26 08:35:51 PM
spmkk:
OgreMagi: Yes, we want clean air and water, but we also would like jobs. It's not possible (with current technology) to be 100% clean. There will always be pollution to some degree. A reasonable trade-off is required, but the EPA's goal is zero emissions, fark the economy.

The sad thing is that most people will dismiss this as a troll or "derp", when in fact it's a matter of record from the horse's mouth.

Well, NOW you've done it... You are BELIEVING what they tell you they are doing? That makes you a crazy conspiracy theorist. Seriously, that's what I get when I say I believe what the U.N. says about proposed "climate" legislation. The publish it, and have spokesmen say it, but if I believe what they say, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Gotta love the ultra-left derp brigade.
 
2012-04-26 10:23:42 PM
There is nothing appropriate, or professional about this person's comments. For those on this thread who are making excuses for, or cheering this man on, I say shame on you.

I am willing to bet that if this were a similarly situated director at the IRS bragging about how he was going to crucify the unions by auditing them every year of Republican administration, there would be more than just a couple of you that would have a problem with the situation.

These individuals are placed in a position of trust and it is their job to execute their duties absent political bias. To use a position of power in order to wage a personal crusade against legal entities, for no other reason than to score political points is inexcusable.
 
2012-04-26 10:59:26 PM

jpo2269: I am willing to bet that if this were a similarly situated director at the IRS bragging about how he was going to crucify the unions by auditing them every year of Republican administration, there would be more than just a couple of you that would have a problem with the situation.


Where exactly is the EPA persecuting gas and oil companies?
 
2012-04-26 11:05:04 PM
The EPA wants to take oil excutives and treat them like the Romans did early Christian martyrs?

I'm all for that. Which one are we doing first? Roasted on a gridiron? Flayed alive? Intestines pulled out and wound on a drum before them? broken on the wheel?
 
2012-04-27 12:27:11 AM

jpo2269: There is nothing appropriate, or professional about this person's comments. For those on this thread who are making excuses for, or cheering this man on, I say shame on you.


Untwist your knickers.

fta: "I was in a meeting once and I gave an analogy to my staff about my philosophy of enforcement, and I think it was probably a little crude and maybe not appropriate for the meeting, but I'll go ahead and tell you what I said:

"It was kind of like how the Romans used to, you know, conquer villages in the Mediterranean. They'd go in to a little Turkish town somewhere, they'd find the first five guys they saw and they'd crucify them.

"Then, you know, that town was really easy to manage for the next few years."

"It's a deterrent factor,"


He qualified it as crude and possibly inappropriate before making the analogy because it was so apt.

Shame on you for fauxraging.

Doing their jobs and protecting the environment =/= "a personal crusade" or "scoring political points"
 
2012-04-27 08:25:18 AM

Mrtraveler01: OgreMagi: You assholes who think it's ok to create a campaign of hate towards a business are going to be farking surprised when the same tactic is used against someone or something you support.

Yeah, we really need to apologize to BP again for being so mean to them after they nearly destroyed the shrimping industry in Louisiana and polluting the shoreline of 4 different states.


Nearly?

Them shkrimps is blind and covered in lesions, son.

Just because the shrimpers and fisheries are still surviving doesn't mean they aren't still in the process of going under.
 
2012-04-27 11:24:18 AM
Ok, I'm confused...

FTFA: "...That agenda, Inhofe said, is to "incite fear" in the public with unsubstantiated claims and "intimidate"..."

So, which one said this? The pot or the kettle?
 
2012-04-27 12:13:13 PM

quatchi: He qualified it as crude and possibly inappropriate before making the analogy because it was so apt.

Shame on you for fauxraging.

Doing their jobs and protecting the environment =/= "a personal crusade" or "scoring political points"


Your last statement is only true if they are doing their jobs and protecting the environment in a consistent and unbiased way, without regard for who may be responsible for the pollution or what they are doing that would cause the pollution. If they are doing their jobs and protecting the environment by specifically targeting oil/gas companies and attempting to "crucify" and "make examples of" them while other industries aren't treated with the same scrutiny or "made examples of" when, under similar circumstances, an oil/gas company would be, then it pretty much would be a "personal crusade" or "scoring political points."

The article certainly implies that he was saying that it's their policy to crucify and make examples of oil and gas companies, but we aren't actually given a full quote. So, unless I see the video or a complete quotation, I suppose I will give them the benefit of the doubt, since it's possible that it's not in context. I would hope that he was only saying that they have a general philosophy to "crucify" and "make examples of" whomever they may find to be violating rules/laws in general rather than targeting a specific industry with that treatment.
 
2012-04-27 12:56:54 PM
A reasonable person can read these comments about subjugation and cricifixion and rightly criticize them WITHOUT simultaneaously calling for all federal enviornmental regulations to be repealed.

It is not the role of the EPA to subjugate or crucify businesses. Period.
But it IS their role to safeguard the national resources and enviornment.

This jackhole's comments prove that he doesn't understand his job well enough to have it, and it is actually counterproductive to the efforts of the EPA to create an adversarial situation.
 
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