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(io9)   Science fiction is coming back to TV on the unlikeliest channel: Syfy   (io9.com) divider line 180
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2012-04-25 11:59:27 PM
io9 completely skipped over the slew of reality shows Siffy has on tap...

Only two scripted shows are confirmed in production for 2012/2013... the rest are reality or pipe dreams.

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/telefile/2012/04/syfy-upfront-ig n ite-this.php

Wonder how much Siffy paid gawker for this article?
 
2012-04-26 12:04:19 AM
SyFy....isn't that the name of an STD? Or is it the name of a recreational drug?

What is a SyFy?
 
2012-04-26 12:05:54 AM
The only other new scripted series we saw actual "footage" from was the concept trailer for the drama Rewind. This time-traveling anti-terrorist series sends a military elite team back to the past, to stop a crisis before it happens.

Can they go back in time and stop this show from being created?
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2012-04-26 12:09:47 AM

Ambivalence: SyFy....isn't that the name of an STD? Or is it the name of a recreational drug?

What is a SyFy?


Think of SyFy it as if it were a Jewish Nazi, or a black Klansman.

Siffy is something so ashamed of its heritage it has to disown it and become the opposite of what it really is.
 
2012-04-26 12:13:44 AM
Siffy can f*ck right the hell off

/they betrayed their core audience and they deserve to go out of business
 
2012-04-26 12:20:45 AM

serial_crusher: The only other new scripted series we saw actual "footage" from was the concept trailer for the drama Rewind. This time-traveling anti-terrorist series sends a military elite team back to the past, to stop a crisis before it happens.

Can they go back in time and stop this show from being created?
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came here to point this out
 
2012-04-26 12:49:26 AM
holy crap what a load of crap
 
2012-04-26 12:52:50 AM
Oh, and let me say it before people come in biatching...

Siffy has two hours of wrestling per week.

That's it. Two hours.

While I agree that WWE doesn't belong on a Sci-Fi channel, well, Siffy isn't a sci-fi channel anymore. Plus, what is two hours per week, with no replays, compared to the hours upon hours of ghost shows and car building shows and reality shows they have planned?

So don't lump wrestling in with the things ruining Siffy. There are dozens of hours of programming on siffy that are worse than Smackdown.
 
2012-04-26 01:47:38 AM

FirstNationalBastard: While I agree that WWE doesn't belong on a Sci-Fi channel, well, Siffy isn't a sci-fi channel anymore. Plus, what is two hours per week, with no replays, compared to the hours upon hours of ghost shows and car building shows and reality shows they have planned?


They should just do a show about wrestling ghosts.

The only thing I watch on that channel anymore is "Lost Girl". And that's not even original programming.
 
2012-04-26 01:48:03 AM
Syfy will forever be in my heart for Stargate, but literally everything else is pure reality show trash. I have just gotten caught up with Eureka though, I must admit it has a certain charm once in a while.

/really miss spaceships
 
2012-04-26 01:50:43 AM
If Syfylis kills Haven that'll be the last I even watch of the network. I'm still mad that they killed the one Stargate series that was anything like the film, just as it was starting to build up steam. At this point, the goddamn Science Channel has more and better sci-fi than Syfy does.
 
2012-04-26 02:02:13 AM
This goes green at damn near 2 am on a work night? So what is Booster Gold? Only heard of him on fark, and the associated picture is not too pursuasive.

And whatever happened to Warehouse 13? I watched most of season 3 but haven't had cable for awhile. Heard a couple of spoilers but wondering if it will be back.

I look forward to any replies in about 7 hours. Goodnight.
 
2012-04-26 02:03:19 AM
...I liked Seven Days.

I don't understand why there isn't a large enough market to justify a pure sci-fi network. In our house growing up, the tv was either stuck on the Hitler channel (history channel) or Sci-fi with an occasional hiatus to the local NBC station for Star Trek. We can't have been that unique.

I liked the old, really campy sci-fi reruns next to the newer sci-fi shows from around the world. They would show the original Battle Star, then an episode of the original Star Trek followed by an episode of Dr. Who and then Farscape & Stargate. What's not to love about that? Its easy and simple. Old & new. No original / reality crap.
 
2012-04-26 02:06:52 AM

gadian: Its easy and simple. Old & new. No original / reality crap.


Reality shows are cheap and generally have huge return-on-investment if successful, probably far in excess of licensing some other network's reruns. It's just another outgrowth of corporate culture invading every aspect of our lives. All about the bottom line.
 
2012-04-26 02:08:54 AM
I would say enough with the reality shows but it seems every farking channel needs one and too much of them and the channel showing becomes a different channel like History or TLC.
 
2012-04-26 02:10:35 AM
The 90s were pretty cool, back when the History Channel showed history, the Sci-Fi Channel showed sci-fi, Court TV showed court on TV, and the Weather Channel showed the weather.

Such simple times.
 
2012-04-26 02:21:21 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Siffy has two hours of wrestling per week.


That wouldn't be a problem if all the rest of the time wasn't devoted to shaky camera "reality" shows. Does anyone actually watch those dreadful ghost facers shows? I watched all of five minutes of one before I turned the tv off in absolute disgust.

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2012-04-26 02:22:55 AM
Oh boy! Another SyFy show not about sci-fi! I bet it'll be called "Ghost Wrestlers" or "Crap That Even Spike TV Passed On".

I swear to FSM, if Alphas gets canned to make room for more shows about dumbasses with cameras chasing shadows, I will punch the honchos at SyFy in the trachea.
 
2012-04-26 02:27:22 AM
They could do a lot worse than a reprise of the Babylon 5 series.

The only tough part about that series was that the episodes were so linked together that one couldn't really watch one random episode and really understand the story.

/This is the right thread, right?
//embarrassed
 
2012-04-26 02:27:26 AM
Besides, the sci-fi channel was very good to me during puberty. If they hadn't cocked things up, I would still be a loyal daily viewer.

/Yes, they single-handedly (heh) sewed the seeds for my hot nerd (preferably with glasses) fetish. For that I am grateful, but also bitterly, bitterly disappointed.
 
2012-04-26 02:33:24 AM
If it isn't a new series of Farscape then I don't need to hear about it.
 
2012-04-26 02:34:46 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Wonder how much Siffy paid gawker for this article?


Wonder how much Gawker is paying Drew to keep greenlighting links to their crappy-ass site?
 
2012-04-26 02:39:28 AM
I'm glad I don't stress about scripts on webpages so much that I actively get angry at them. Sheesh I've never had an issue with a Gawker website, maybe because I don't care enough to install a dozen extensions to turn off all the things that don't bug me anyway.
 
2012-04-26 02:43:30 AM
Seriously, listening to people whine about Gawker websites is ridiculous. "Well if you bothered to install all the anti-blah blah blah that I do, you could be annoyed by them too!"

"But I don't, and it works fine, and so does my computer and browser."

"But you SHOULD install all this stuff, so you can streamline your browsing experience and learn which websites to be annoyed at then! Because that's how smart people surf the internet!"

riiight
 
2012-04-26 02:43:39 AM

Confabulat: The 90s were pretty cool, back when the History Channel showed history, the Sci-Fi Channel showed sci-fi, Court TV showed court on TV, and the Weather Channel showed the weather.

Such simple times.


Sheesh! You're sooo...literal!

More than anyone, those farksticks at Discovery really took things to the shiatter. It's hard to believe that TLC was once "The Learning Channel". ROFL!
 
2012-04-26 03:00:36 AM

Gordon Bennett: If it isn't a new series of Farscape then I don't need to hear about it.


We ask for Claudia Black. SyFy gives us Jennifer Black.
 
2012-04-26 03:02:22 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Siffy can f*ck right the hell off

/they betrayed their core audience and they deserve to go out of business


so much THIS
 
2012-04-26 03:10:13 AM

Confabulat: Seriously, listening to people whine about Gawker websites is ridiculous. "Well if you bothered to install all the anti-blah blah blah that I do, you could be annoyed by them too!"

"But I don't, and it works fine, and so does my computer and browser."

"But you SHOULD install all this stuff, so you can streamline your browsing experience and learn which websites to be annoyed at then! Because that's how smart people surf the internet!"

riiight


Their site requires Javascript from 2 different domains, just to display simple text and images and do nothing fancy. You know what shoud be required? Nothing. It's farking text and images that don't do anything fancy. That's what HTML is for.

They've gone out of their way to make their site shiatty for people who care about such things, and since they're a technically oriented family of sites, that's a much larger than normal subset of their users.

If it doesn't bother you, fine. It bothers a bunch of other people.
 
2012-04-26 03:11:15 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Siffy can f*ck right the hell off

/they betrayed their core audience and they deserve to go out of business


Is there a niche network left that hasn't?

Maybe Turner Classic Movies. I mean, TCM still airs commercial free classic movies. No reality shows, no original scripted dramas, just old movies.

Everything else?

TV Land and Nick at Nite don't air classic TV anymore. Game Show Network only falls back on running game shows when the reality shows they want to air bomb horribly. The only thing you learn about on The Learning Channel is 600 pound midgets with 24.4 children who put their toddlers in beauty contests. A&E Has nothing to do with Arts or Entertainment, unless you're entertained by Bounty Hunters who need interventions for hoarding stuff in their storage units. The History Channel only airs shows about Alien Cable Guys with Axes who Pawn ice trucks for Jesus after picking stuff from the end of the world. And the goddamned Weather Channel hardly shows you weather because they'd rather air the 1996 film Twister.

The niche network era is dead, replaced by 500 channels of homogenized nothing.
 
2012-04-26 03:19:07 AM

Abner Doon: Confabulat: Seriously, listening to people whine about Gawker websites is ridiculous. "Well if you bothered to install all the anti-blah blah blah that I do, you could be annoyed by them too!"

"But I don't, and it works fine, and so does my computer and browser."

"But you SHOULD install all this stuff, so you can streamline your browsing experience and learn which websites to be annoyed at then! Because that's how smart people surf the internet!"

riiight

Their site requires Javascript from 2 different domains, just to display simple text and images and do nothing fancy. You know what shoud be required? Nothing. It's farking text and images that don't do anything fancy. That's what HTML is for.

They've gone out of their way to make their site shiatty for people who care about such things, and since they're a technically oriented family of sites, that's a much larger than normal subset of their users.

If it doesn't bother you, fine. It bothers a bunch of other people.


Sounds like you're going out of your way to make the web harder to surf for no apparent reason. Is two different domain sources for Javascript hurting me or my computer in any appreciable way? No? Well then, you're the one making your internet harder to work, not them.
 
2012-04-26 03:22:28 AM
SyFy, the network that makes the shows that people torrent until they are cancelled because people don't watch them.
 
2012-04-26 03:27:34 AM
None of those new shows looked more than vaguely interesting.

As other posters have noted, if the channel ran a mix of old-school sci-fi movies and television along with a few new series and a couple (not 14, but a couple) reality shows, it would be one of the top cable channels. Also, I know it's expensive for a cable channel to make movies with state of the art special effects and talent. I would rather see one really well-done original movie per month than the constant barrage of interchangeable monster movies with shiatty CGI.

The audience is here. The product is not.
 
2012-04-26 03:31:05 AM

Ashtrey: This goes green at damn near 2 am on a work night? So what is Booster Gold? Only heard of him on fark, and the associated picture is not too pursuasive.

And whatever happened to Warehouse 13? I watched most of season 3 but haven't had cable for awhile. Heard a couple of spoilers but wondering if it will be back.

I look forward to any replies in about 7 hours. Goodnight.


WH13 is supposed to be back sometime this year. Given Sigh-Fry's head-up-the-ass scheduling department, probably July or August. Because nothing keeps fans interested like a year between seasons. Or half seasons. Or whatever those farking morons decide to schedule this week.
 
2012-04-26 03:34:22 AM

Abner Doon: Confabulat: Seriously, listening to people whine about Gawker websites is ridiculous. "Well if you bothered to install all the anti-blah blah blah that I do, you could be annoyed by them too!"

"But I don't, and it works fine, and so does my computer and browser."

"But you SHOULD install all this stuff, so you can streamline your browsing experience and learn which websites to be annoyed at then! Because that's how smart people surf the internet!"

riiight

Their site requires Javascript from 2 different domains, just to display simple text and images and do nothing fancy. You know what shoud be required? Nothing. It's farking text and images that don't do anything fancy. That's what HTML is for.

They've gone out of their way to make their site shiatty for people who care about such things, and since they're a technically oriented family of sites, that's a much larger than normal subset of their users.

If it doesn't bother you, fine. It bothers a bunch of other people.


The Gawker site redesign from last year is also pretty much broken if you are using a tablet. I'll admit, the Kindle Fire doesn't have the best web browser in the world, but they really went out of their way to make the site unusable on my device. I just don't undertsand how you can screw up a simple concept like a blog so badly.

I do still read io9 pretty regularly because they are a pretty decent source of sci-fi and fantasy news. Gizmodo has gotten to be almost unreadably bad, though. They seem to spend so much time being hipsters that they don't actually bother to actually follow real tech news in a timely manner like Engadget or The Verge. You'll EVENTUALLY read about a story there, but it's usually hours or days after the other sites report it. They never fail to post whatever pretty picture of a military jet Jesus Dias has found for the day, though. I swear the guy must spend half his time jerking off to pics of F-35s.
 
2012-04-26 03:35:00 AM

Confabulat: Abner Doon: Confabulat: Seriously, listening to people whine about Gawker websites is ridiculous. "Well if you bothered to install all the anti-blah blah blah that I do, you could be annoyed by them too!"

"But I don't, and it works fine, and so does my computer and browser."

"But you SHOULD install all this stuff, so you can streamline your browsing experience and learn which websites to be annoyed at then! Because that's how smart people surf the internet!"

riiight

Their site requires Javascript from 2 different domains, just to display simple text and images and do nothing fancy. You know what shoud be required? Nothing. It's farking text and images that don't do anything fancy. That's what HTML is for.

They've gone out of their way to make their site shiatty for people who care about such things, and since they're a technically oriented family of sites, that's a much larger than normal subset of their users.

If it doesn't bother you, fine. It bothers a bunch of other people.

Sounds like you're going out of your way to make the web harder to surf for no apparent reason. Is two different domain sources for Javascript hurting me or my computer in any appreciable way? No? Well then, you're the one making your internet harder to work, not them.


Here's the deal - no site should REQUIRE javascript to be able to do something as stupidly simple as read the text. Gawker is terrible because it is insanely easy to fix it so that javascript being disabled does not break the entirety of the site. And what's worse, is that the text WILL load for about .5 seconds until it hides it again.

The fact that it uses a CDN (content delivery network - IE that second domain designed just to serve some of the images and content) itself isn't a great concern.

If you can't see why the former is bad, try browsing from:
a) enterprise browsers that have javascript functionality partially disabled,
b)screen readers for the blind,
c)government systems where accessibility standards are enforced to meet ADA requirements.

There's a very good reason the vast majority of websites don't use the "Fake frames" technique gawker uses - it's a bloated, inaccesible mound of code to do something that has been utterly antique since 2000, and downright idiotic in a day where huge measures are taken to ensure the best possible functionality across the gamut of browsers, screen resolutions, and means and modalities of accessing the web.

If you want to complain about third party plugins muddying things up for the web, complain about this kind of usage of javascript preventing people from even reading the article.
 
2012-04-26 03:37:01 AM

alienated: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Siffy can f*ck right the hell off

/they betrayed their core audience and they deserve to go out of business

so much THIS


Because it can't be said enough.
 
2012-04-26 03:42:57 AM
Uh-huh. And how many more spinoffs of Ghost Hunters are they working on?
 
2012-04-26 03:47:33 AM
This is what bd's and old vhs tapes and ther wonderful world of torrenting is for. Build you own library and stop relying on ThyFi.

Really.

It's pretty simple.
 
2012-04-26 03:48:33 AM

LiberalWeenie: Uh-huh. And how many more spinoffs of Ghost Hunters are they working on?


They still haven't done Ghost Storage Wars, where they contact the ghosts of people who have died and left behind storage lockers in order to figure out which lockers being auctioned have the best junk.
 
2012-04-26 04:01:23 AM
Give us a 2.5 hour closing movie to Stargate Universe, then maybe I will pay attention.
 
2012-04-26 04:07:26 AM

alienated: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Siffy can f*ck right the hell off

/they betrayed their core audience and they deserve to go out of business

so much THIS


so, MTV went out of business how long ago??

/I still havent watched syphilis channel in a long time. between the bad made for tv movies, worse "reality" ghost shows, johnfarkingedwards, and well, canceling STU ... farkem
 
2012-04-26 04:46:46 AM
Booster Gold I would watch.

The rest are direct rip-offs of other shows. I'm so farking tired of that. If you can't come up with an original idea, GTFO.

i like Eureka. Seven Days was good too.
SG1 was cool until season eight where they went to crap.
BSG, SGA, SGU were good reasons to flip over to a test pattern. Made more sense and had better acting.
So they have a lot to make up for.
 
2012-04-26 05:06:30 AM

Somaticasual: Here's the deal - no site should REQUIRE javascript to be able to do something as stupidly simple as read the text. Gawker is terrible because it is insanely easy to fix it so that javascript being disabled does not break the entirety of the site. And what's worse, is that the text WILL load for about .5 seconds until it hides it again.

The fact that it uses a CDN (content delivery network - IE that second domain designed just to serve some of the images and content) itself isn't a great concern.

If you can't see why the former is bad, try browsing from:
a) enterprise browsers that have javascript functionality partially disabled,
b)screen readers for the blind,
c)government systems where accessibility standards are enforced to meet ADA requirements.

There's a very good reason the vast majority of websites don't use the "Fake frames" technique gawker uses - it's a bloated, inaccesible mound of code to do something that has been utterly antique since 2000, and downright idiotic in a day where huge measures are taken to ensure the best possible functionality across the gamut of browsers, screen resolutions, and means and modalities of accessing the web.

If you want to complain about third party plugins muddying things up for the web, complain about this kind of usage of javascript preventing people from even reading the article.


Fair enough. It's never been an issue for me but I don't have to deal with those issues. Still can't get worked up enough to get the crazy hate for them though, it's not like the people writing the articles design the site.
 
2012-04-26 05:08:13 AM
It still puzzles me how they can get better ratings by making the same shiatty reality shows that every other network craps out than they can producing original SF program.

But you know, the hell with SyFy. I buy dvds and download Doctor Who and Sherlock when they're available. fark cable.
 
2012-04-26 05:39:55 AM

Old enough to know better: It still puzzles me how they can get better ratings by making the same shiatty reality shows that every other network craps out than they can producing original SF program.

But you know, the hell with SyFy. I buy dvds and download Doctor Who and Sherlock when they're available. fark cable.


Sci-Fi has a relatively limited audience. Also, sci-fi fans will find another source to watch their shows from. Hell, you said as much yourself... " I buy dvds and download Doctor Who and Sherlock when they're available. fark cable." So, you're not giving them ratings, which means they can't charge advertisers, and without that money, there is no show.

On the other hand, people who watch reality shows are barely sentient. They wouldn't download stuff. They're sitting there, watching the commercials that pay for the reality shows. And reality shows are cheaper than scripted shows, anyway. So, even if a reality show has lower ratings than a scripted show, the reality show will be more profitable.

To see proof of that in action, look at what ABC and CBS did with their soaps. Shows that had been around for 50 years were canceled and replaced with shiatty talk shows. The talk shows aren't doing any better in the ratings than the old soaps, but the talk shows are cheaper to produce, so they're successful.
 
2012-04-26 06:09:53 AM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: If Syfylis kills Haven that'll be the last I even watch of the network. I'm still mad that they killed the one Stargate series that was anything like the film, just as it was starting to build up steam. At this point, the goddamn Science Channel has more and better sci-fi than Syfy does.


HAVEN has lost me; its just not going anywhere I want to be taken.

Once they finish EUREKA, I am finished with the channel.
 
2012-04-26 06:16:03 AM
One Mile Straight Down

Uhhh...

When a powerful earthquake hits California and opens up a chasm bigger than the Grand Canyon, it reveals an enormous hidden ocean lying deep beneath the earth's crust.

Okay, sounds a little interesting. And I do love cheesy scifi tv shows.

Writers: Skip Woods (X-Men Origins: Wolverine)

And I'm no longer interested.
 
2012-04-26 06:27:28 AM
People still watch cable?

\My parents have 350 channels
\\90% of the time there is nothing on
\no, I don't live there. I was just visiting for a day recently
 
2012-04-26 07:05:51 AM
There is a war called the "Pale Wars." This is where the humans and the aliens start fighting each other. There's an event that happens that triggers the war, and basically after nine year of this war, there's an instance where the humans and the aliens join together to save some individuals. That is the moment of defiance against the whole war. They're saying enough is enough, it's time to live in peace and unite. We're Castithan. I'm Datak Tarr and [Jaime Murray] is my wife Stahma Tarr and we have a son Alec Tarr. We have a beautiful language - the gentleman who worked on Game of Thrones helped develop our language. It gives it a nice depth. We look human, we've got human features but...

...but they're actually Cylons?!
 
2012-04-26 07:16:16 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: People still watch cable?

\My parents have 350 channels
\\90% of the time there is nothing on
\no, I don't live there. I was just visiting for a day recently


I actually don't know anyone personally who owns satellite or cable anymore. It's all accessible on the Internet. Why pay money for free (other than Internet access charges)?
 
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