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2012-04-26 12:27:16 AM
The guitarist from Journey, right? Glad to hear he is still tinkering around
 
2012-04-26 12:42:36 AM
I'm having a hard time commenting on this without pointing out the fact that gizmodo is the worst "tech blog" and should not be linked to because they just add two lines to the source article and pass it off as journalism.
 
2012-04-26 01:00:59 AM
"I built a room within a room," he said. He created a second set of walls made of two layers of drywall, bonded together with a polymeric gel called Green Glue, which blocks up to 90 percent of sound transmission."

That sounds great. But in a small, sealed room like that, a good juicy fart could last for months.
 
2012-04-26 01:17:38 AM

0Icky0: "I built a room within a room," he said. He created a second set of walls made of two layers of drywall, bonded together with a polymeric gel called Green Glue, which blocks up to 90 percent of sound transmission."

That sounds great. But in a small, sealed room like that, a good juicy fart could last for months.


Thanks for the memories. Our drummer was fond of french onion soup.
 
2012-04-26 01:54:11 AM
Neil added a second door, which seals magnetically

How does that farking work?
 
2012-04-26 02:04:27 AM
meh, mine is smaller. and still enough equipment for recording 2 CDs so far :D
 
2012-04-26 02:06:00 AM
Just goes to show you don't need a whole lot of space for a professional studio! All you need is any regular old room and six figures of disposable income!
 
2012-04-26 02:12:25 AM
Alesis Microverb? That makes me sad.

Bricasti Design M7 would be a suitable replacement.
 
2012-04-26 02:12:41 AM

Ghost Roach: 0Icky0: "I built a room within a room," he said. He created a second set of walls made of two layers of drywall, bonded together with a polymeric gel called Green Glue, which blocks up to 90 percent of sound transmission."

That sounds great. But in a small, sealed room like that, a good juicy fart could last for months.

Thanks for the memories. Our drummer was fond of french onion soup.


fc07.deviantart.net

SMELL MY WRATH!

\hot like that room has to get during a recording session
 
2012-04-26 02:15:53 AM

I Like Bread: and six figures of disposable income!


Quite a few artists have gotten by with just the instruments, cheap mics, a decent sound card and a cheap interface.
 
2012-04-26 02:24:44 AM

tomcatadam: I Like Bread: and six figures of disposable income!

Quite a few artists have gotten by with just the instruments, cheap mics, a decent sound card and a cheap interface.


Good voice + cheap mics = cheap voice
 
2012-04-26 02:29:19 AM
How many kilobytes of wasted bandwidth when you could have just linked directly to the real article, douchemitter?
 
2012-04-26 03:20:52 AM

Christian Bale: Neil added a second door, which seals magnetically

How does that farking work?


Like the seal on a refrigerator door.

You do know how your fridge door seals, don't you?
 
2012-04-26 04:10:10 AM
hmm...park slope or greenpoint? cool setup. if i was his landlord, i'd have told him to kick rocks.
 
2012-04-26 04:11:02 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Christian Bale: Neil added a second door, which seals magnetically

How does that farking work?

Like the seal on a refrigerator door.

You do know how your fridge door seals, don't you?


That's_the_joke.jpeg
 
2012-04-26 04:22:30 AM
Why not work on your piano skillz first so that you'll get a job playing it professionally in professionally designed studios?

You could always sneak into music department basements to practice and use a headphone version electronic piano for home practice to get there.

The main goal was sound-proofing while the main goal for a studio should be acoustics.
 
2012-04-26 05:05:02 AM

mr0x: Why not work on your piano skillz first so that you'll get a job playing it professionally in professionally designed studios?

You could always sneak into music department basements to practice and use a headphone version electronic piano for home practice to get there.

The main goal was sound-proofing while the main goal for a studio should be acoustics.


Isolation is one of the most important aspects of a professional recording environment and he's achieved that. Internal acoustics are up to preference. As long as it meets his goals nothing much else matters. It could be an inherently great sounding room without any major treatment.
 
Skr
2012-04-26 05:18:43 AM
Nice little setup. I expected it to have a higher price tag, albeit still far out of my price reach.
 
2012-04-26 05:45:52 AM
Sixty six square feet of recording-studio awesomeness.

That's nothing - I have home recording equipment that can be measured in 3 dimensions! It's so impressive, I have to use cubic feet to describe it!
 
2012-04-26 07:35:52 AM
This isn't unusual or interesting. It's along the same lines as, "Man changes his car's oil in his own driveway! Without a servicing bay!?!?!?"
 
2012-04-26 08:09:27 AM
Ug. OK subby. Do Not Want:

Putting a 1084 into a Presonus is like putting high octane gas in a bottom of the line Kia or, more accurately, putting a decades old designed mic preamp built with quality components into a cheap chinese made interface with questionable A/D converters. He'd have saved money using a GAP-73 or some other knockoff and it would've sounded the same after those converters...

As much as I hate NS-10 monitors they have their uses. BUT, having one pointed at an angle and one straight on is idiotic, if you're trying to achieve anything like a useful flat response. Also that close to the wall will bump the low-end all askew. Again, he'd have saved money if he used some junky monitors from Behringer or some other cheap company because he's ruined the response curve anyway. -nevermind that he started with a square room... His mastering engineer must have his work cut out for him.

G-Damn Avalon makes some of the most over-rated gear in the universe.
WTF is "custom analog summing box" mean anyway? Not much point to summing analog until you get above 12 channels (of summing input)...
Nice job gluing drywall together but if you put a bass amp in there you would stop any sound at all from transmitting into the structure. Everything below 150hz or so is unimpeded, I'm guessing. Lead????
Playing at Arlene's don't mean so much once you've done it a few times, I guess.

/gosh I'm a jerk in the morning.
 
2012-04-26 08:18:35 AM

tomcatadam: I Like Bread: and six figures of disposable income!

Quite a few artists have gotten by started with just the instruments, cheap mics, a decent sound card and a cheap interface.


FTFY. Nobody's making a living (getting by) recording music with $100 Samson microphones plugged into Tascam interfaces.
 
2012-04-26 08:25:21 AM

vrax: Isolation is one of the most important aspects of a professional recording environment and he's achieved that.


You forgot the "IMHO". Also, THAT kind of isolation is for separation of recorded instruments, not isolation from your downstiars landlord.
For reference: George Massenburg cares less about isolation than you'd think. He said "Bleed is my friend". Of course, he's using pricey microphones with little to no off-axis coloration so the bleed will sound good for starters.

It really depends on what sound you're going for.

What the article failed to mention was where they recorded the drum tracks.
 
2012-04-26 08:59:08 AM

Reverend Monkeypants: Ug. OK subby. Do Not Want:

Putting a 1084 into a Presonus is like putting high octane gas in a bottom of the line Kia or, more accurately, putting a decades old designed mic preamp built with quality components into a cheap chinese made interface with questionable A/D converters. He'd have saved money using a GAP-73 or some other knockoff and it would've sounded the same after those converters...

As much as I hate NS-10 monitors they have their uses. BUT, having one pointed at an angle and one straight on is idiotic, if you're trying to achieve anything like a useful flat response. Also that close to the wall will bump the low-end all askew. Again, he'd have saved money if he used some junky monitors from Behringer or some other cheap company because he's ruined the response curve anyway. -nevermind that he started with a square room... His mastering engineer must have his work cut out for him.

G-Damn Avalon makes some of the most over-rated gear in the universe.
WTF is "custom analog summing box" mean anyway? Not much point to summing analog until you get above 12 channels (of summing input)...
Nice job gluing drywall together but if you put a bass amp in there you would stop any sound at all from transmitting into the structure. Everything below 150hz or so is unimpeded, I'm guessing. Lead????
Playing at Arlene's don't mean so much once you've done it a few times, I guess.

/gosh I'm a jerk in the morning.


Even questionable converters are sonically transparent these days.
I bet you couldn't tell the difference between a cheapo Behringer converter, and a top of line model in a double blind test.
 
2012-04-26 09:04:30 AM
i've seen much smaller with much better.

//gearslutz
 
2012-04-26 09:19:12 AM
Eh, sticking a lot of equipment in a small room doesn't make something professional.

Monitoring playback over the speakers in a small room like that is simply not going to work, especially if the person is mixing for surround sound.
 
2012-04-26 10:34:09 AM
Where do the drums go?
 
2012-04-26 10:34:24 AM
The room is the entire point of a recording studio. This is a closet.

And he certainly didn't "soundproof" it. He put up some farking foam. I have no doubt that this room sounds like ass.
 
2012-04-26 10:40:14 AM

jgilb: Reverend Monkeypants: Ug. OK subby. Do Not Want:

Putting a 1084 into a Presonus is like putting high octane gas in a bottom of the line Kia or, more accurately, putting a decades old designed mic preamp built with quality components into a cheap chinese made interface with questionable A/D converters. He'd have saved money using a GAP-73 or some other knockoff and it would've sounded the same after those converters...

As much as I hate NS-10 monitors they have their uses. BUT, having one pointed at an angle and one straight on is idiotic, if you're trying to achieve anything like a useful flat response. Also that close to the wall will bump the low-end all askew. Again, he'd have saved money if he used some junky monitors from Behringer or some other cheap company because he's ruined the response curve anyway. -nevermind that he started with a square room... His mastering engineer must have his work cut out for him.

G-Damn Avalon makes some of the most over-rated gear in the universe.
WTF is "custom analog summing box" mean anyway? Not much point to summing analog until you get above 12 channels (of summing input)...
Nice job gluing drywall together but if you put a bass amp in there you would stop any sound at all from transmitting into the structure. Everything below 150hz or so is unimpeded, I'm guessing. Lead????
Playing at Arlene's don't mean so much once you've done it a few times, I guess.

/gosh I'm a jerk in the morning.

Even questionable converters are sonically transparent these days.
I bet you couldn't tell the difference between a cheapo Behringer converter, and a top of line model in a double blind test.


No, no, no. You can, however, modify a Behringer ADA8000 to the point where it sounds damn good but you need to mod it to get there. Stock-wise the Behringer is inconsistent channel to channel and the slew rate is mucked. I've actually been a pretty big fan of Presonus BUT I sold my StudioLive 16.4.2 in favor of a RME UFX because of the routing options. I think it sounds better than the StudioLive in the end and the versatility is king. I keep a Firepod Mobile around for various reasons but I wouldn't use it to record YoYo Ma at Lincoln Center despite feeding it with matched Geffels and that insane Earthworks preamp.

We do double blind audio geekouts all the time at the studio and yes, you can hear the difference between a Behringer and a Mytek just as much as you can hear the difference between an MXL 603 and a Nuemann KM184. AND if you can't hear the difference then don't pretend there isn't one.

Next we will discuss how there is no difference between the preamps in a Yamaha 01-v and the ones in the API 3124+ and how your laptop's soundcard is just fine for recording piano.

/Behringer's quality has increased exponentially in the past couple of years since they bought that town in China. Them new Xenyx preamps are quite nice, especially for the price.
 
2012-04-26 11:07:28 AM
Meh. I built a Pro-Tools studio last year in my living room closet. And it works fine for what I do.
 
2012-04-26 12:41:44 PM
I built a studio using nothing but 7 MPC's and Nikki Minaj posters last summer in my bathroom. Sounds so fresh.
 
2012-04-26 12:50:57 PM
I've got a 16-track digital studio in half of a garage. We've done numerous band demos and full CD projects.

We record the drums and bass (line-in) live with scratch tracks for vocal, guitar, etc., then overdub everything on top.The room is irrelevant, in fact we worked hard to make the room as acoustically dead as possible. The "virtual room" is created digitally. We use Cubase SX with Delta 1010s through an Alesis mixer. Not expensive, and getting a little behind the times, but it works.

Use decent mics, know where to point them, quality pres, apply your effects subtly and consistently, you can get awesome results in small spaces on a tight budget.
 
2012-04-26 01:25:25 PM
A "Neutrik" patch bay AND a "Furhman" power conditioner were used?! Holy Smokes!

But I must also know what the brand of that single space vent panel is and what brand of rack rail were used.

Also is that laminated wood for the rack structure or veneer?

And whether or not the rack screws he used were phillips head, robertson head, or the esoteric hex head ones? What did he torque them down to? And also if he used the little plastic washers that some of the upscale screws come with.

The monitor appears to be at a horizontal angle on top of the tilted rack, did he fabricate some sort of custom wedge to correct the angle? Can he share the plans?

/I guess I'm a jerk this morning too. It's better than the recording studios I have which are "none"... and it appears to actually be generating ROI.
 
2012-04-26 04:25:07 PM

Reverend Monkeypants: vrax: Isolation is one of the most important aspects of a professional recording environment and he's achieved that.

You forgot the "IMHO". Also, THAT kind of isolation is for separation of recorded instruments, not isolation from your downstiars landlord.
For reference: George Massenburg cares less about isolation than you'd think. He said "Bleed is my friend". Of course, he's using pricey microphones with little to no off-axis coloration so the bleed will sound good for starters.

It really depends on what sound you're going for.

What the article failed to mention was where they recorded the drum tracks.


It's not "IMHO". I hope you are kidding. You like external noises just finding their way onto your recordings? Oh, listen to that city bus horn and the baby crying next door accompany my piano, such a great combo.

As for drums, a small kit would be no problem in there.
 
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