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(Daily Mail)   North Korea has powerful weapon that can defeat US with a single blow. Bubble solution said to be almost ready for launch   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 42
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2012-04-25 08:38:41 PM  
4 votes:
timujin: Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.

That still wouldn't "defeat the U.S. in a single blow." It might knock us down to about four times the standard of living of the average North Korean, but we have the knowledge base and infrastructure to rebuild. And, in the meantime, North Korea becomes a very deep hole in the ground. You might knock us down, but unless you kill us we will kill you.


Pretty much this.

And a high altitude nuclear EMP burst would be viewed the same, according to the United States' response to WMD doctrine, as if a MIRV struck central New York City.

At this point, several B-2, B-1Bs, and B-52s from various United States Airforce bases, here and abroad, would take flight from hardened, EMP Proof hangers and each carrying dozens of nuclear tipped tomahawk missiles in rotary launchers.

14 Fleet SSBNs would let fly with up to 24 MIRV tipped Trident II ICBMs.

Several Minuteman III ICBMs would suddenly take flight from hardened silos in fields in North Dakota and Wyoming.

Within an hour, coordinated nuclear missile strikes would hit North Korea. The entire country will be self-lighting for the next 10 years.
2012-04-25 06:17:08 PM  
3 votes:
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2012-04-25 08:53:00 PM  
2 votes:
timujin: Probably not... and while we would be justified in the eyes of the world, China might feel they have to take a stand. Still, it would be stupid of them and, unlike Best Korea, they're not completely, off the chart, categorically in-farking-sane.

And it's not like the United States isn't, to be quite honest, when it comes to Biological, Chemical, or Nuclear weapons used against them by nation states. Mutually Assured Destruction is still quite, quite possible.

Clinton, Bush, and Obama have all made it very, very publically clear that if you use CBRN weapons against the US, your local weather will soon be a crisp, balmy 16,000 Deg Centegrate.
2012-04-25 08:47:02 PM  
2 votes:

KiwDaWabbit: Granted, I don't know much about "war stuff", but do we think that China would be comfortable with us nuking a neighboring country?


China would probably make sure NK didn't attack in the first place.
2012-04-25 08:42:38 PM  
2 votes:
Enemabag Jones: They might be able to do more damage to Seoul with mass shelling of nerve agent then they could with a single nuke.

Considering the use of nerve agent against a civilian population would probibly prompt a nuclear response from the United States, I don't think they're that suicidal.
2012-04-25 07:28:12 PM  
2 votes:

Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.


That still wouldn't "defeat the U.S. in a single blow." It might knock us down to about four times the standard of living of the average North Korean, but we have the knowledge base and infrastructure to rebuild. And, in the meantime, North Korea becomes a very deep hole in the ground. You might knock us down, but unless you kill us we will kill you.
2012-04-25 06:49:40 PM  
2 votes:

timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.


25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.
2012-04-26 04:31:11 AM  
1 votes:
That's right! One blow, I'll finish you all!

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2012-04-26 01:53:26 AM  
1 votes:

craxyd: Even if Best Korea were to get a reliable delivery system for a nuke, how far would it get before getting shot out of the air? There's most likely at least a full battery of MLRS loaded to intercept on the ground and FSM only knows how many nearby naval assets that could take it out of the sky before it was in flight for more than 5 minutes.


They claim this last one was an accident, but we sent our mobile missile shield placements in a few days ahead of their expected "go or no go" date.. Quite possible we shot this one down covertly to send the message that it's not going to happen while looking better in the press than just normally shooting it down.
2012-04-25 11:56:59 PM  
1 votes:
You want to shut them up forever without them doing jack shiat? Do four fly overs from the north, south, east, and west with US, Japan, Russia, and whoever the hell else wants to come along. Each fly over at different altitude so they all crisscross above Pyongyang with the lowest altitude group dropping leaflets telling them to SHUT THE fark UP.

/no, don't really do this, it would just looked intimidating as hell.
//whip your dog harder China
2012-04-25 11:21:37 PM  
1 votes:

bubo_sibiricus: Enemabag Jones: Difficulty: China.

China would like to see this Best Corea thing end.

One way or another. The worst thing they fear is millions of Korean refugees streaming across the border.


This. Best Korea will be Screwed Korea the day they finally push China over the edge, not the U.S - China's been the only thing saving them from getting flattened by someone. But I think Best Korea missed the memo that nuclear brinkmanship went out of style awhile ago.
2012-04-25 11:06:13 PM  
1 votes:
North Korea may have nukes, but the only way they can deliver them is via aircraft. And when it comes to the skies, the U.S. pretty much OWNS the skies.

I'd be more thoughtful if I were a North Korean official. Don't piss us off, there are likely boomers underwater that could lay waste to Pyongyang in a matter of seconds.
2012-04-25 10:36:43 PM  
1 votes:

Darth Macho: Mutiny32: Apparently they don't understand our affliction for guns and understanding of guerilla warfare. We could win a war of attriton with pissed off rednecks alone.

Fun fact: The Korean People's Army has the world's largest Special Operations force (~90,000 soldiers, compared to USSOCOM's 58,000) and to offset their technological inferiority they've invested heavily in asymmetric warfare training. While their regular army troops occasionally defect the number of North Korean special forces that have defected or been captured alive is something like 3. Statistically speaking, you're more likely to capture a WWII Japanese Kamikaze pilot... after he's crashed.


So what you're saying is that....we'd still kill the hell out of them.
2012-04-25 10:19:58 PM  
1 votes:

Darth Macho: Mutiny32: Apparently they don't understand our affliction for guns and understanding of guerilla warfare. We could win a war of attriton with pissed off rednecks alone.

Fun fact: The Korean People's Army has the world's largest Special Operations force (~90,000 soldiers, compared to USSOCOM's 58,000) and to offset their technological inferiority they've invested heavily in asymmetric warfare training. While their regular army troops occasionally defect the number of North Korean special forces that have defected or been captured alive is something like 3. Statistically speaking, you're more likely to capture a WWII Japanese Kamikaze pilot... after he's crashed.


assets.rollingstone.com

"If wars were arithmetic, the mathematicians would rule the world."
2012-04-25 10:06:59 PM  
1 votes:
It really does look as if North Korea is trying to provoke the international equivalent of suicide by cop.
2012-04-25 10:05:11 PM  
1 votes:

timujin: Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.

That still wouldn't "defeat the U.S. in a single blow." It might knock us down to about four times the standard of living of the average North Korean, but we have the knowledge base and infrastructure to rebuild. And, in the meantime, North Korea becomes a very deep hole in the ground. You might knock us down, but unless you kill us we will kill you.


It would knock out a great deal of the US technological and industrial infrastructure, which would likely result in millions of people who depend on food being shipped to them starving to death because there's just no way the government can organize relief efforts simultaneously for a couple hundred million people in urban and suburban that are barely prepared to weather a bad snowstorm. The latter half of season 1 of the TV show Jericho actually does a pretty decent job of showing how bad things can get in the wake of an EMP attack taking out everything with electronics in it.

The scary part is that the sun could theoretically do the same thing with a bad coronal mass ejection. There was a documented solar storm in 1859, the dawn of the electronic age that farked royally with telegraph lines. A similar solar superstorm these days would knock the world on its ass.
2012-04-25 09:59:13 PM  
1 votes:
Y'see I can't figure out a way they'd do it without either taking out the planet, or ensuring their own horrific demise, or both.

I mean, somehow setting off that volcano that is under Yellowstone would certainly take us out, but you'd most likely kill the planet doing it. And that's 1950s Supervillain level shiat, but still the only scenario I can think of that would actually remove us from the globe. Even the aforementioned in thread high altitude nukes would just succeed in pissing us right the fark off. Yeah we may be crippled for a while but our immediate flails would flatten the entirety of North Korea, and like we would give a shiat about anyone else thinks about us doing it. And the ensuing new magnetic belts would serve to fark up the planet for many centuries to come.

Besides I can't feel threatened by people who can't launch a rocket. I just don't feel like they can send something halfway across the planet with reasonable accuracy.
2012-04-25 09:55:45 PM  
1 votes:

Mutiny32: Apparently they don't understand our affliction for guns and understanding of guerilla warfare. We could win a war of attriton with pissed off rednecks alone.


Fun fact: The Korean People's Army has the world's largest Special Operations force (~90,000 soldiers, compared to USSOCOM's 58,000) and to offset their technological inferiority they've invested heavily in asymmetric warfare training. While their regular army troops occasionally defect the number of North Korean special forces that have defected or been captured alive is something like 3. Statistically speaking, you're more likely to capture a WWII Japanese Kamikaze pilot... after he's crashed.
2012-04-25 09:54:51 PM  
1 votes:

KarmicDisaster: A singre BROW!


Making fun of the Son of Dear Leader gets you 25 years in re-education camp, citizen.
2012-04-25 09:54:17 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Within an hour, coordinated nuclear missile strikes would hit North Korea. The entire country will be self-lighting for the next 10 years.


I know we could scorch the place, but I'd like to think it's more the site of a future massive humanitarian mission. We could pretty much eliminate any mechanized resistance in a few hours while dropping loads of HDR's and wind up radios.

And let's not go dropping cluster bombs, which are yellow, in the same theater as we drop HDR packets, which are also yellow.

I'm pretty sure the only reason we haven't coordinated an invasion with China is that there are zero resources to be had in Best Korea.

/Hey China, here's the deal, we fly over the place and bomb anything with an engine
//You take the place on the ground with your million man army.
2012-04-25 09:37:00 PM  
1 votes:
Bubble solution, you say?

photo.goodreads.com

That could actually work.
2012-04-25 09:17:34 PM  
1 votes:
Clearly, the solution is to use holograph technology to bring Reagan back from the dead so he can restart the Strategic Defense Initiative program. We'll get those "Star Wars" satelites online before DPRK can figure out how to make a rocket go more than a couple miles.
2012-04-25 09:16:30 PM  
1 votes:

KiwDaWabbit: BronyMedic: timujin: Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.

That still wouldn't "defeat the U.S. in a single blow." It might knock us down to about four times the standard of living of the average North Korean, but we have the knowledge base and infrastructure to rebuild. And, in the meantime, North Korea becomes a very deep hole in the ground. You might knock us down, but unless you kill us we will kill you.

Pretty much this.

And a high altitude nuclear EMP burst would be viewed the same, according to the United States' response to WMD doctrine, as if a MIRV struck central New York City.

At this point, several B-2, B-1Bs, and B-52s from various United States Airforce bases, here and abroad, would take flight from hardened, EMP Proof hangers and each carrying dozens of nuclear tipped tomahawk missiles in rotary launchers.

14 Fleet SSBNs would let fly with up to 24 MIRV tipped Trident II ICBMs.

Several Minuteman III ICBMs would suddenly take flight from hardened silos in fields in North Dakota and Wyoming.

Within an hour, coordinated nuclear missile strikes would hit North Korea. The entire country will be self-lighting for the next 10 years.

Granted, I don't know much about "war stuff", but do we think that China would be comfortable with us nuking a neighboring country?


If it was Best Korea, I think they'd be glad they didn't have to waste their own nukes.
2012-04-25 09:14:19 PM  
1 votes:
bubo_sibiricus,Enemabag Jones: Difficulty: China.
China would like to see this Best Corea thing end.
One way or another. The worst thing they fear is millions of Korean refugees streaming across the border.


I bet the younger generation is not that excited for the 15 or more years of work it would take to industralize, and deprogram the Northern unwashed masses. They are not that in love with Northern refugees as a whole.

/I am thinking keep the border, find a pliable son of Kim Jong Il as figurehead, kick out the US, and see if China would be comfortable with a demilitarized zone. Not necessarily in that order.
2012-04-25 09:05:31 PM  
1 votes:
"My dog has no nose"
2012-04-25 09:04:40 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah...

When is the world going to give Best Korea's gov't a big old F-U and take those mothers down, once and for all? I mean, they don't have oil or other natural resources that we crave, but a shiatload of time, money and other resources goes down the tubes each and every year trying to deal with these douchebags. Just get rid of them and hopefully not take too many of the peasants out in the process.

If we truly think they have weapons that can be launched against another country, I suspect that there is a way to neutralize those weapons right before the smackdown happens. We've infiltrated far more secure places than anything Best Korea has to offer.

I have grave concerns that many of those peasants can't be rehabbed with the truth about the world and the sham of a life they have led. Anybody less than 60 has no idea of life that doesn't involve the Juche ideology, and to them the rest of the world consists solely of the US continually plotting against them. A lifetime of brainwashing is an awful hard stain to remove. But at least those people are relatively harmless and won't cost us more than they already do. And there is a slightly better chance that they will get the food aid we and other nations have been sending for decades, too.

/China is their sugardaddy and can't be left out of the process
//doesn't think China really gives a flying fark about Best Korea
///Best Korea is a cash drain on them, too
2012-04-25 09:03:53 PM  
1 votes:

Enemabag Jones: Difficulty: China.


China would like to see this Best Corea thing end.

One way or another. The worst thing they fear is millions of Korean refugees streaming across the border.
2012-04-25 09:01:02 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: timujin: Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.

That still wouldn't "defeat the U.S. in a single blow." It might knock us down to about four times the standard of living of the average North Korean, but we have the knowledge base and infrastructure to rebuild. And, in the meantime, North Korea becomes a very deep hole in the ground. You might knock us down, but unless you kill us we will kill you.

Pretty much this.

And a high altitude nuclear EMP burst would be viewed the same, according to the United States' response to WMD doctrine, as if a MIRV struck central New York City.

At this point, several B-2, B-1Bs, and B-52s from various United States Airforce bases, here and abroad, would take flight from hardened, EMP Proof hangers and each carrying dozens of nuclear tipped tomahawk missiles in rotary launchers.

14 Fleet SSBNs would let fly with up to 24 MIRV tipped Trident II ICBMs.

Several Minuteman III ICBMs would suddenly take flight from hardened silos in fields in North Dakota and Wyoming.

Within an hour, coordinated nuclear missile strikes would hit North Korea. The entire country will be self-lighting for the next 10 years.


The only winning move is not to play.
2012-04-25 08:59:17 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, for fark's sake. Can we just knock these guys around a little bit already? I don't want anyone to die or anything. I'd just like our troopers to kick in the door and put Kim Jong Un's bodyguards in headlocks while a special task force gives him a swirly on live television.
2012-04-25 08:57:07 PM  
1 votes:
Guess they got that airborne Ebola strain down that's keyed to only wealthy white people
2012-04-25 08:53:39 PM  
1 votes:

"That really hurt! I'm gonna have a lump there, you idiot! Who throws a shoe? Honestly! You fight like a woman! "


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2012-04-25 08:52:53 PM  
1 votes:

KiwDaWabbit: BronyMedic: timujin: Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.

That still wouldn't "defeat the U.S. in a single blow." It might knock us down to about four times the standard of living of the average North Korean, but we have the knowledge base and infrastructure to rebuild. And, in the meantime, North Korea becomes a very deep hole in the ground. You might knock us down, but unless you kill us we will kill you.

Pretty much this.

And a high altitude nuclear EMP burst would be viewed the same, according to the United States' response to WMD doctrine, as if a MIRV struck central New York City.

At this point, several B-2, B-1Bs, and B-52s from various United States Airforce bases, here and abroad, would take flight from hardened, EMP Proof hangers and each carrying dozens of nuclear tipped tomahawk missiles in rotary launchers.

14 Fleet SSBNs would let fly with up to 24 MIRV tipped Trident II ICBMs.

Several Minuteman III ICBMs would suddenly take flight from hardened silos in fields in North Dakota and Wyoming.

Within an hour, coordinated nuclear missile strikes would hit North Korea. The entire country will be self-lighting for the next 10 years.

Granted, I don't know much about "war stuff", but do we think that China would be comfortable with us nuking a neighboring country?


I'm sure they wouldn't take too kindly to ICBM's heading in the east Asia direction. But there's probably not a lot they could say about a few aircraft and sub-launched nukes.
2012-04-25 08:47:50 PM  
1 votes:

KiwDaWabbit: BronyMedic: timujin: Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.

That still wouldn't "defeat the U.S. in a single blow." It might knock us down to about four times the standard of living of the average North Korean, but we have the knowledge base and infrastructure to rebuild. And, in the meantime, North Korea becomes a very deep hole in the ground. You might knock us down, but unless you kill us we will kill you.

Pretty much this.

And a high altitude nuclear EMP burst would be viewed the same, according to the United States' response to WMD doctrine, as if a MIRV struck central New York City.

At this point, several B-2, B-1Bs, and B-52s from various United States Airforce bases, here and abroad, would take flight from hardened, EMP Proof hangers and each carrying dozens of nuclear tipped tomahawk missiles in rotary launchers.

14 Fleet SSBNs would let fly with up to 24 MIRV tipped Trident II ICBMs.

Several Minuteman III ICBMs would suddenly take flight from hardened silos in fields in North Dakota and Wyoming.

Within an hour, coordinated nuclear missile strikes would hit North Korea. The entire country will be self-lighting for the next 10 years.

Granted, I don't know much about "war stuff", but do we think that China would be comfortable with us nuking a neighboring country?


Probably not... and while we would be justified in the eyes of the world, China might feel they have to take a stand. Still, it would be stupid of them and, unlike Best Korea, they're not completely, off the chart, categorically in-farking-sane.
2012-04-25 08:47:24 PM  
1 votes:
KiwDaWabbit: Granted, I don't know much about "war stuff", but do we think that China would be comfortable with us nuking a neighboring country?

I'm pretty sure, at that point, the United States wouldn't give a flying fark, other than to be sure that none of the Nukes fell near their border.

And in the event of an unprovoked nuclear attack on a predominantly civilian population (as a high altitude EMP would be), I doubt they'd even give a fark.
2012-04-25 08:47:05 PM  
1 votes:

KiwDaWabbit:

Granted, I don't know much about "war stuff", but do we think that China would be comfortable with us nuking a neighboring country?


Or South Korea, for that matter?
2012-04-25 08:46:54 PM  
1 votes:
BronyMedic,Enemabag Jones: They might be able to do more damage to Seoul with mass shelling of nerve agent then they could with a single nuke.
Considering the use of nerve agent against a civilian population would probibly prompt a nuclear response from the United States, I don't think they're that suicidal.


Difficulty: China.
Although radioactive glass would make a good 'buffer zone'.
2012-04-25 08:43:38 PM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Within an hour, coordinated nuclear missile strikes would hit North Korea. The entire country will be self-lighting for the next 10 years.


Yes, and we would still be reading by candlelight for the following five years, assuming the breakdown in division of labor doesn't lead to complete anarchy.

/Replacing our power grid would take at least a decade, per studies from NASA and JPL regarding geomagnetic storm impacts.
2012-04-25 08:40:28 PM  
1 votes:
Assuming they talking about nukes here.

Have they perfected a deliver system for the nukes?

Have they put the nukes into a deliverable package?

/They might be able to do more damage to Seoul with mass shelling of nerve agent then they could with a single nuke.
2012-04-25 07:19:34 PM  
1 votes:

Shadow Blasko: 25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.


That wouldn't do it either. And as you said, they are nowhere near able to do that.
2012-04-25 07:05:09 PM  
1 votes:

Shadow Blasko: timujin: No one, and let me repeat that, NO ONE, has a weapon capable of "defeating the U.S. in a single blow." The country is simply too large. You could do significant damage, sure, especially to our economy, but then you're just farking over the rest of the world and ensuring your imminent demise.

25MT high altitude EMP burst.

/Not that best Korea could come close to fielding that.


A lot of sites are hardened against that. Yeah, it would cause a lot of disruption, but large swaths of the U.S. have survived blackouts before. Might cause a sudden surge in new tech buying, but I think the threat of an EMP can be easily overstated.
2012-04-25 06:31:49 PM  
1 votes:
We have food. What's your point?
2012-04-25 05:49:56 PM  
1 votes:
Aw, that's cute.
www.retardzone.com
So small.
 
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