machodonkeywrestler: winterwhile: The_Gallant_Gallstone: winterwhile: so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

I need... about three fiddy!

About what it costs to occupy Afghanistan for 10 years should do it.

thats an failed Obama war, try again.

wars end

entitlements never end

Are you retarded?

We're pretty sure a stroke was involved.

winterwhile: Afghanistan is an Liberal war, for Obama

and you are losing it.

Afghanistan is a liberal war for Obama?

DAMN YOU TIME MACHINE!

cameroncrazy1984: winterwhile: Bill Murray said I was weird: winterwhile: Bhasayate: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

Right. I'm just saying if we had a big auto bailout, and a wall street bail out, we should have a student loan amnesty program, too. We have got to be fair here.

How about a bail out for the common taxpayer??? you know those of us who pay taxes.

So...not you then.

I pay around 20%

I pay more than you in taxes. Therefore my opinion matters more than yours does.

If you were rich enough for your opinion to matter, you wouldn't have paid more in taxes.

Affording to another farker whose handle I can't remember, conservative wisdom would tell you that when the government spends money on education, research, and development, the country falls behind in those areas relative to the rest of the world. Clearly this is supported by the American experience of the 20th century.

Rep. Todd Akin (R-eally dumb): "Federal student loans are the stage three cancer of socialism"

...as opposed to the stage 3 rectal cancer that republicans have become.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: winterwhile: TV's Vinnie: GOD!

FREAKING!

DAMMIT!

It seems that ANY tax money spent on helping ANYONE who's not a billionaire is gonna be condemned as "socialism" by these jackwagons!

15 Trillion in the hole, where would you get the money? Borrow it from the chinese? Or just print it and make all my savings worthless?

I'm cool with your savings being worthless.

To be fair he saves dingleberries.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: winterwhile: so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

I need... about three fiddy!

About what it costs to occupy Afghanistan for 10 years should do it.

thats an failed Obama war, try again.

wars end

entitlements never end

winterwhile: so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

I need... about three fiddy!

About what it costs to occupy Afghanistan for 10 years should do it.

Pincy: You must really have to hate yourself and humanity in general in order to vote Republican.

so name one policy you think caused this? That republicans supported?

Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

give us a number.

please

So the plan is "Let's keep attacking things the majority of people like"?

The only thing Republican complaints about "socialism" are doing is encouraging liberals and moderates to give real socialism a second look.

/Social democracy is not a bad idea
//Stalinism is, but the people old enough to buy into cold war rhetoric vote Republican anyway.

What an idiot, stage 3 cancer patients linger only for a short while, student loans cause suffering for decades.

Stage 3 is the good one, right?

DamnYankees: I don't find this claim dumb as much as inexplicable. Seriously what does this even mean?

False Analogy

Several factors affect the strength of the argument from analogy:

The relevance of the known similarities to the similarity inferred in the conclusion.[2][1]

The amount and variety of the examples in the analogy.[2][1]

The number of characteristics that the things being compared share.[2][1]'

An argument from analogy is weakened if it is inadequate in any of the above respects. The term "false analogy" comes from the philosopher John Stuart Mill, who was one of the first individuals to engage in a detailed examination of analogical reasoning.[2] One of Mill's examples involved an inference that some person is lazy from the observation that his or her sibling is lazy. According to Mill, sharing parents is not all that relevant to the property of laziness.[2]

A further clear example is:

Sam: "I think that people can have some affection for their cultural heritage."

Michelle: "You're just like Hitler!"

Sam: " Hell yeah!"

In the above example, Michelle has evaded a reasoned discussion by tarring Sam with an irrelevant association to an idea that Hitler used. Of course no one person is identical to another to the extent that their proposals can be disparaged by a mere reference to that other person. It is a form of ad hominem: Attacking the messenger, rather than the message.