Bill Murray said I was weird: winterwhile: End_Of_Line:

Sorry there Skippy, the Matrix is not going to reboot this time. Man up and clean up the problem that has been handed to us or GTFO. I could care less either way.

we are manning up, cleaning house of Obama this fall.

Then you should "man up" and accept the bet I've proposed to you. If Obama loses the presidency, I'll sponsor you for TotalFark for the entirety of Romney's tenure as POTUS. If Obama wins, you leave. No coming back, no alts, no other handles, no inane posts. Nothing. A mod permabans an IPbans you. And the best part? Forever.

So will you man up, or will you continue to be a coward? Just say the word and I'll email the mods and Drew himself to keep it authenticated.

lol

Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: It could very well break them in the head, make them insane, depressed. Broken, if you will.

It is definitely a burden and a hardship for people with lesser means. It is also crazy. Take someone that goes to school for social work. It is a necessary job and it is also a low paying sector. They might not make much more than if they worked at a factory but it is a vital service and generally takes a Master's Degree. We are pricing people out of a LOT of important jobs.

Totally. Just about anyone in education needs at least an MA. And you if you want a good job, you need a PhD.

Maybe we need something like the education army. Go to school, then you get to teach for a few years, like being in the service, then your school is all paid up.

The Dems did set up the PSLF for people who work a few years in certain public service positions in 2007. It needs to be expanded though.

/Bush signed it into law so that is one good thing he did.

Sweet. I think this program should be greatly expanded.

Obama did expand it with executive order. Link I think he does plan on providing relief to those with student loans.

Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: It could very well break them in the head, make them insane, depressed. Broken, if you will.

It is definitely a burden and a hardship for people with lesser means. It is also crazy. Take someone that goes to school for social work. It is a necessary job and it is also a low paying sector. They might not make much more than if they worked at a factory but it is a vital service and generally takes a Master's Degree. We are pricing people out of a LOT of important jobs.

Totally. Just about anyone in education needs at least an MA. And you if you want a good job, you need a PhD.

Maybe we need something like the education army. Go to school, then you get to teach for a few years, like being in the service, then your school is all paid up.

The Dems did set up the PSLF for people who work a few years in certain public service positions in 2007. It needs to be expanded though.

/Bush signed it into law so that is one good thing he did.

Sweet. I think this program should be greatly expanded.

Obama did expand it with executive order. Link I think he does plan on providing relief to those with student loans.

OK, Obama does something right. Nice.

Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: It could very well break them in the head, make them insane, depressed. Broken, if you will.

It is definitely a burden and a hardship for people with lesser means. It is also crazy. Take someone that goes to school for social work. It is a necessary job and it is also a low paying sector. They might not make much more than if they worked at a factory but it is a vital service and generally takes a Master's Degree. We are pricing people out of a LOT of important jobs.

Totally. Just about anyone in education needs at least an MA. And you if you want a good job, you need a PhD.

Maybe we need something like the education army. Go to school, then you get to teach for a few years, like being in the service, then your school is all paid up.

The Dems did set up the PSLF for people who work a few years in certain public service positions in 2007. It needs to be expanded though.

/Bush signed it into law so that is one good thing he did.

Sweet. I think this program should be greatly expanded.

Obama did expand it with executive order. Link I think he does plan on providing relief to those with student loans.

OK, Obama does something right. Nice.

There you go. Tit for tat. :)

Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

I was talking about "the education army" and shiat like that. There is the occasional batshiat crazy post, but it's amusing.

Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

The guy that collects his dingleberries and puts them in a Kleenex that he keeps moist with his own saliva?

Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Bhasayate: It could very well break them in the head, make them insane, depressed. Broken, if you will.

It is definitely a burden and a hardship for people with lesser means. It is also crazy. Take someone that goes to school for social work. It is a necessary job and it is also a low paying sector. They might not make much more than if they worked at a factory but it is a vital service and generally takes a Master's Degree. We are pricing people out of a LOT of important jobs.

Totally. Just about anyone in education needs at least an MA. And you if you want a good job, you need a PhD.

Maybe we need something like the education army. Go to school, then you get to teach for a few years, like being in the service, then your school is all paid up.

The Dems did set up the PSLF for people who work a few years in certain public service positions in 2007. It needs to be expanded though.

/Bush signed it into law so that is one good thing he did.

Sweet. I think this program should be greatly expanded.

Obama did expand it with executive order. Link I think he does plan on providing relief to those with student loans.

OK, Obama does something right. Nice.

There you go. Tit for tat. :)

/ we are the world
// i believe the children are our future
/// born in the usa
//// wooo hoooo

Sabyen91: Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

The guy that collects his dingleberries and puts them in a Kleenex that he keeps moist with his own saliva?

This is the second time I saw this in this thread (I think). What does it mean??

Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

Yes. And you whine about it in every thread.

Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

The guy that collects his dingleberries and puts them in a Kleenex that he keeps moist with his own saliva?

This is the second time I saw this in this thread (I think). What does it mean??

It isn't a reference to anything. I just said it twice.

Sabyen91: Bhasayate: Sabyen91: Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

The guy that collects his dingleberries and puts them in a Kleenex that he keeps moist with his own saliva?

This is the second time I saw this in this thread (I think). What does it mean??

It isn't a reference to anything. I just said it twice.

Oh. I didn't realize who said it. I thought it was two people who said it and some inside joke was over my head or something. That tends to happen.

WizardofToast: Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

But this time we got this in the bag! I'm pretty sure of it!

Sir, do we get to win this time?

Giltric: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Giltric: Student loans are the greatest example of inflation in the real world today.

What do you think will happen to tuition if government absolves student loan debt.....hello 500k liberal arts degrees.

As long as we use the money to occupy sandy countries and bail out billionaires and banks.

Anything else is soshulizm

Okay say we didn't spend all that money on the wars and we put that towards grants and student loans....what do you think would happen to the price of tuition?

I don't think you understand the problem but need something to point the finger at...so you got that going for you...which is nice.

Ok, but what is YOUR solution? Only let rich people go to college so the prices come down?

Sabyen91: Giltric: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Giltric: Student loans are the greatest example of inflation in the real world today.

What do you think will happen to tuition if government absolves student loan debt.....hello 500k liberal arts degrees.

As long as we use the money to occupy sandy countries and bail out billionaires and banks.

Anything else is soshulizm

Okay say we didn't spend all that money on the wars and we put that towards grants and student loans....what do you think would happen to the price of tuition?

I don't think you understand the problem but need something to point the finger at...so you got that going for you...which is nice.

Ok, but what is YOUR solution? Only let rich people go to college so the prices come down?

prohibit federal student loans to colleges and universities whose cost increases exceed yearly COLA increases.

relcec: Sabyen91: Giltric: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Giltric: Student loans are the greatest example of inflation in the real world today.

What do you think will happen to tuition if government absolves student loan debt.....hello 500k liberal arts degrees.

As long as we use the money to occupy sandy countries and bail out billionaires and banks.

Anything else is soshulizm

Okay say we didn't spend all that money on the wars and we put that towards grants and student loans....what do you think would happen to the price of tuition?

I don't think you understand the problem but need something to point the finger at...so you got that going for you...which is nice.

Ok, but what is YOUR solution? Only let rich people go to college so the prices come down?

prohibit federal student loans to colleges and universities whose cost increases exceed yearly COLA increases.

I am not sure you can't do that if you put all that money toward student loans.

relcec: prohibit federal student loans to colleges and universities whose cost increases exceed yearly COLA increases.

How about this, we just stop with loans all together and go with grants.

Jackson Herring: cameroncrazy1984: Jackson Herring: What the fark is wrong with you people? Do you realize who you are "arguing" with in this thread?

Yes. And you whine about it in every thread.

Not surprising that you would be defensive about it

What's so defensive about it?

What an asshole. He can go fark himself and his fantasy land of "socialism".

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: First question: Do you want to run for federal office?

(Anyone who answers "yes" automatically fails.)

This goes along with my idea of a drafted congress.

Instead of elected representatives we draft from the population. One step of the screening would be a fMRI screening where we question the people if they have been wanting the job.

Also someone should go around to schools like the Ivies and MIT, Cal Tech, Columbia etc and point out what the U of Chicago is doing to help keep down student debt.

JesusJuice: Im as liberal as they come, but that isn't what he said.


You know how I know you didn't read the FARK article?

Akin said the government should be out of the student loan market altogether. "America has got the equivalent of the stage three cancer of socialism because the federal government is tampering in all kinds of stuff it has no business tampering in," he said.

Asked whether the candidates supported a constitutional amendment saying life begins at conception, Akin again staked out the strongest stance. "Yes, I would support a constitutional amendment," he said.

WhyteRaven74: relcec: prohibit federal student loans to colleges and universities whose cost increases exceed yearly COLA increases.

How about this, we just stop with loans all together and go with grants.

free money? does the grant level increase with COLA?
how do we slow inflation this inflation that outpaces even healthcare?

can we prohibit grants to colleges and universities whose cost increases that exceed COLA increases? we could have a 5 year rolling average, so if colleges exceed COLA in one year they can make up for it the next 4 years. and once their cost increase were back under or even with the long term inflation rate they could get their grants reinstated.

you might have to do me a solid for giving away free money though. maybe by phasing out the mortgage interest deduction over a couple of decades.

ManateeGag: Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.

there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.

That kind of defeats the idea of the 'everyman' being able to get elected. I have an idea though... Have the elections one year earlier, and the candidates are required to undergo one year of schooling in the finer points of law, then if they don't pass, they don't proceed to serve their term. Same goes for repeat offenders multi-term politicians, they just get a higher level class each year. Sure, this would add to the cost of the whole thing, but it also might save money in the long run from poorly crafted laws that constantly get challenged and overturned, with lawsuits left and right.

Of course, I also think that to keep elections from simply being a case of voting in the Cult of Personality, we should vote for silhouettes, no gender, race, religion or smooth talking involved, find a way to list their history, their political stance, their views on key issues, and their campaign promises, none of this attack ad bullshiat, none of this pandering to the special interest groups, we know where they stand and what they vow to do, and they can't Mitt Romney in mid-stream. This would also save trillions of dollars of campaigning bullshiat and robo-calls.

Sure, neither of these would actually work as proposed, but I can't help but wonder if they could be a basic platform to build on?

I'd let you keep the full mortgage interest deduction for people within 200% of poverty level though.

relcec: can we prohibit grants to colleges and universities whose cost increases that exceed COLA increases?

Sure you could do that. In any case, no one should be indebted for the purpose of getting an education.

Giltric: if thats not good enough for you and you need to pay for some highly recognizable bling name on your diploma then take out a loan but don't complain when you didn't figure out the math on a 100k loan for a BA in Communications or Sociology.

How wonderfully anti-intellectual and anti-academic of you.

GAT_00: See, this is incredibly stupid. Why exactly do you want apathetic people in charge of your government? Do you really want the President to get a call about whatever crisis and go 'fark it, I'm tired of this job?' I mean, if you want that, please vote for Sarah Palin.

I understand his point.. here's the problem: The people who SHOULD be in charge have no interest in it. The people who have no business being in charge backstab and cut throats to make sure they are.

Giltric: Free tuition to a state school

Welcome to the Party, Comrade!

You will be receiving your Marxist newsletter and your Conspirator Against America membership card shortly.

Mikey1969: The people who SHOULD be in charge have no interest in it.

Feels your pain:

WhyteRaven74: relcec: can we prohibit grants to colleges and universities whose cost increases that exceed COLA increases?

Sure you could do that. In any case, no one should be indebted for the purpose of getting an education.

I'm not giving out grants for living expenses. just tuition and books and those annoying fees that show up in the summer sometimes. get roomates, get a job if you want.
maybe I'll give out a $2500 a year as a beer stipend. but that's IT! not a penny more!

Giltric: Sabyen91: Giltric: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Giltric: Student loans are the greatest example of inflation in the real world today.

What do you think will happen to tuition if government absolves student loan debt.....hello 500k liberal arts degrees.

As long as we use the money to occupy sandy countries and bail out billionaires and banks.

Anything else is soshulizm

Okay say we didn't spend all that money on the wars and we put that towards grants and student loans....what do you think would happen to the price of tuition?

I don't think you understand the problem but need something to point the finger at...so you got that going for you...which is nice.

Ok, but what is YOUR solution? Only let rich people go to college so the prices come down?

Free tuition to a state school....if thats not good enough for you and you need to pay for some highly recognizable bling name on your diploma then take out a loan but don't complain when you didn't figure out the math on a 100k loan for a BA in Communications or Sociology.

Free tuition to state schools would cost taxpayer money too. I am certainly not disagreeing and your solution IS better but I am not sure that your solution keeps the tuition from going up.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Giltric: Free tuition to a state school

Welcome to the Party, Comrade!

You will be receiving your Marxist newsletter and your Conspirator Against America membership card shortly.

Yep, just like many of the Southern states that give free tuition for decent H.S. grades! Yes! Keep repeating the stupidest shiat ever to sound a like a farking moron! Hey everybody! Look! A farking Teatard sucker on fark!!!!

Giltric: .....the only thing I'd offer is free tuition to a state school

That's enough to cast you into the Pit of Evil... if you want to give one red penny of hard-earned taxpayer money to subsidize parasites, then you are, along with me and 90% of this thread, an enemy of American freedom.

Giltric: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Giltric: Free tuition to a state school

Welcome to the Party, Comrade!

You will be receiving your Marxist newsletter and your Conspirator Against America membership card shortly.

You'll want to hear the rest of my plan before you get all comradey with me.....the only thing I'd offer is free tuition to a state school, everything after that has to do with your hands, an upwards motion and pieces of leather attached to your boots. So don't squander it.


/teach a man to fish something something something.

So, the working poor still couldn't afford it. Got it.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Giltric: .....the only thing I'd offer is free tuition to a state school

That's enough to cast you into the Pit of Evil... if you want to give one red penny of hard-earned taxpayer money to subsidize parasites, then you are, along with me and 90% of this thread, an enemy of American freedom.

Nope, still a giveaway to the rich. He has redeemed himself...

trotsky: Yep, just like many of the Southern states that give free tuition for decent H.S. grades! Yes! Keep repeating the stupidest shiat ever to sound a like a farking moron! Hey everybody! Look! A farking Teatard sucker on fark!!!!