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winterwhile		2012-04-25 08:13:06 PM

Pincy: You must really have to hate yourself and humanity in general in order to vote Republican.

so name one policy you think caused this? That republicans supported?

Sabyen91		2012-04-25 08:13:14 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: -Every two years, a person is chosen by lottery, just like jury duty. Once picked, a person is ~~barred from being picked again for at least 4 years.~~given the Shirley Jackson lottery treatment.

It is the only way to be sure.

theknuckler_33		2012-04-25 08:14:32 PM

Well, to be fair, he didn't directly call 'federal student loans' the stage three cancer of socialism, he was just saying that...

oh God, who am I kidding... what a farktwat!!!

The_Gallant_Gallstone		2012-04-25 08:14:36 PM

winterwhile: so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

I need... about three fiddy!

About what it costs to occupy Afghanistan for 10 years should do it.

winterwhile		2012-04-25 08:14:46 PM

TV's Vinnie: GOD!

FREAKING!

DAMMIT!

It seems that ANY tax money spent on helping ANYONE who's not a billionaire is gonna be condemned as "socialism" by these jackwagons!

15 Trillion in the hole, where would you get the money? Borrow it from the chinese? Or just print it and make all my savings worthless?

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2012-04-25 08:14:55 PM

...on topics such as student loans, North Korea and abortion.

What about loaned North Korean abortion students?!?! Why didn't you ask about THAT Mr. Lamestreamlibtardmedia???

winterwhile		2012-04-25 08:15:37 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: winterwhile: so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

I need... about three fiddy!

About what it costs to occupy Afghanistan for 10 years should do it.

thats an failed Obama war, try again.

wars end

entitlements never end

theknuckler_33		2012-04-25 08:16:31 PM

winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

Mrtraveler01		2012-04-25 08:16:58 PM

theknuckler_33: Well, to be fair, he didn't directly call 'federal student loans' the stage three cancer of socialism, he was just saying that...

oh God, who am I kidding... what a farktwat!!!

Try having this guy as your representative.

I knew he was a braindead bible-thumping Tea Party dickwad and now he gets to prove to the rest of the state that he is.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2012-04-25 08:17:06 PM

winterwhile: TV's Vinnie: GOD!

FREAKING!

DAMMIT!

It seems that ANY tax money spent on helping ANYONE who's not a billionaire is gonna be condemned as "socialism" by these jackwagons!

15 Trillion in the hole, where would you get the money? Borrow it from the chinese? Or just print it and make all my savings worthless?

I'm cool with your savings being worthless.

The_Gallant_Gallstone		2012-04-25 08:17:29 PM

winterwhile: entitlements never end

Abolish public subsidies for primary and secondary education!

Let those parasites fend for themselves!

But seriously... what we spent on Afghanistan for 10 years (Bush and Obama) should do it.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2012-04-25 08:18:13 PM

winterwhile: The_Gallant_Gallstone: winterwhile: so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

I need... about three fiddy!

About what it costs to occupy Afghanistan for 10 years should do it.

thats an failed Obama war, try again.

wars end

entitlements never end

Intrest never rests. Borrow less, tax more.

theknuckler_33		2012-04-25 08:18:19 PM

winterwhile: entitlements never end

For the vast majority of individuals they do.

Sabyen91		2012-04-25 08:18:26 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: winterwhile: TV's Vinnie: GOD!

FREAKING!

DAMMIT!

It seems that ANY tax money spent on helping ANYONE who's not a billionaire is gonna be condemned as "socialism" by these jackwagons!

15 Trillion in the hole, where would you get the money? Borrow it from the chinese? Or just print it and make all my savings worthless?

I'm cool with your savings being worthless.

To be fair he saves dingleberries.

LeroyBourne		2012-04-25 08:18:52 PM

Ohh man, when I was going to college during the summer I worked 2 jobs. I would work a morning shift at job A go home, have a beer, then go to night job B. Six days a week for both jobs, I either had a morning off or a night off, and it rarely fell on the same day, so I basically never had a full day off. At the end of summer I made a cool 14k, but it basically went right into my education. I did that for 2 years, then said, fark it, I'm taking some loans out.

1000Monkeys		2012-04-25 08:19:44 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: To jump off of that point, I propose we convert the House into a lottery system.

-Citizens are eligible for the lottery after reaching age 25, or graduating from a college/university/trade school; whichever comes first
-Every two years, a person is chosen by lottery, just like jury duty. Once picked, a person is barred from being picked again for at least 4 years.
-That person represents their district in the House for a standard 2 year term. At the end of the term, the lottery is held again.
-While serving, the chosen person is compensated at 110% of their last year's individual salary, up to $75K. That person will also be reimbursed (at std. rates) for trips home, up to a maximum of 4 per year.
-Meanwhile, the Senate will remain an elected body, but with terms reduced to 4 years from 6

I always found the idea of demarchy interesting but I'm not sure if it's any better practically. Still, I think it's worth a shot.

Also, if your going for that you may as well get rid of congressional districts entirely (and the gerrymandering issue with it) and choose from the entire citizenship for each position. You should probably make the House bigger as well so it less likely to over/under represent one group or another by chance.

Kurland		2012-04-25 08:19:46 PM

Its very simple the Republicans don't like it when anyone but the Ultra Rich are educated. If the poor and middle class become educated they will stop voting republican.

winterwhile		2012-04-25 08:19:48 PM

theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

when you change the interest rate, yes it is

economics 101

theknuckler_33		2012-04-25 08:20:06 PM

Surool		2012-04-25 08:20:17 PM

Rep. Todd Akin (R-eally dumb): "Federal student loans are the stage three cancer of socialism"

...as opposed to the stage 3 rectal cancer that republicans have become.

LincolnLogolas		2012-04-25 08:21:00 PM

Pols like this are the stage 3 cancer of America.

ArcadianRefugee		2012-04-25 08:21:18 PM

Akin said the government should be out of the student loan market altogether. "America has got the equivalent of the stage three cancer of socialism because the federal government is tampering in all kinds of stuff it has no business tampering in," he said.

Steelman and Akin both said they didn't support a proposal to allow citizenship for people who ... earned a college diploma. "I believe we've got to take away all the incentives that are attracting the illegals to begin with," Steelman said.

'Cos the last thing we'd want in this country is an educated population.

theknuckler_33		2012-04-25 08:21:34 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone		2012-04-25 08:21:35 PM

winterwhile: when you change the interest rate, yes it is

economics 101

Bhasayate		2012-04-25 08:21:43 PM

winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

give us a number.

please

Oh, it's not my money, it's tax dollars.

minuslars		2012-04-25 08:21:48 PM

Affording to another farker whose handle I can't remember, conservative wisdom would tell you that when the government spends money on education, research, and development, the country falls behind in those areas relative to the rest of the world. Clearly this is supported by the American experience of the 20th century.

Mrtraveler01		2012-04-25 08:21:48 PM

Kurland: Its very simple the Republicans don't like it when anyone but the Ultra Rich are educated. If the poor and middle class become educated they will stop voting republican.

It's nice to see the GOP wanting to see us return to 18th Century France.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2012-04-25 08:22:32 PM

Sabyen91: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: winterwhile: TV's Vinnie: GOD!

FREAKING!

DAMMIT!

It seems that ANY tax money spent on helping ANYONE who's not a billionaire is gonna be condemned as "socialism" by these jackwagons!

15 Trillion in the hole, where would you get the money? Borrow it from the chinese? Or just print it and make all my savings worthless?

I'm cool with your savings being worthless.

To be fair he saves dingleberries.

I doubt he saves that much. He's always seemed more like one of those impoverished cretins that like to identify with the rich and advocate their wishes over his needs.

JRoo		2012-04-25 08:23:33 PM

Conservatives are the stage three cancer of ignorance.

Bhasayate		2012-04-25 08:23:41 PM

theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

Right. I'm just saying if we had a big auto bailout, and a wall street bail out, we should have a student loan amnesty program, too. We have got to be fair here.

winterwhile		2012-04-25 08:23:57 PM

LeroyBourne: Ohh man, when I was going to college during the summer I worked 2 jobs. I would work a morning shift at job A go home, have a beer, then go to night job B. Six days a week for both jobs, I either had a morning off or a night off, and it rarely fell on the same day, so I basically never had a full day off. At the end of summer I made a cool 14k, but it basically went right into my education. I did that for 2 years, then said, fark it, I'm taking some loans out.

I did 2 jobs (one at night, and one on the weekend) for my entire 4 years of college.

ended up with no student loans

I did work in a restuarant as a cook, so I even ate well on the weekends.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2012-04-25 08:23:58 PM

farkityfarker		2012-04-25 08:24:41 PM

Germany's policy of giving all candidates who qualify a free university education is obviously not working. Nor is the universal health care thing.

They should adopt the American system instead.

winterwhile		2012-04-25 08:24:58 PM

theknuckler_33: winterwhile: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

when you change the interest rate, yes it is

economics 101

Obama is suggesting NOT changing the interest rate, correct?

reading comprehension 101.

Forget it. keep flinging poo.

which is going to cost what? economics 101....... again

Sabyen91		2012-04-25 08:25:02 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sabyen91: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: winterwhile: TV's Vinnie: GOD!

FREAKING!

DAMMIT!

It seems that ANY tax money spent on helping ANYONE who's not a billionaire is gonna be condemned as "socialism" by these jackwagons!

15 Trillion in the hole, where would you get the money? Borrow it from the chinese? Or just print it and make all my savings worthless?

I'm cool with your savings being worthless.

To be fair he saves dingleberries.

I doubt he saves that much. He's always seemed more like one of those impoverished cretins that like to identify with the rich and advocate their wishes over his needs.

I am saying he is insane. He keeps them in a Kleenex that he keeps moist with his own saliva.

Vangor		2012-04-25 08:25:19 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: People who want to be in power should, under no circumstances, be allowed to be in power.

To be fair, I only want to be in power because I do not want other people in power. I do not trust the lot of em in or wanting to get in.

Bhasayate		2012-04-25 08:25:44 PM

theknuckler_33: winterwhile: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

when you change the interest rate, yes it is

economics 101

Obama is suggesting NOT changing the interest rate, correct?

reading comprehension 101.

Forget it. keep flinging poo.

I say lower the rate to like almost nothing. Students work hard. They'll get good jobs, make the economy better, stronger.

I mean, I almost don't care if they raise taxes a whole lot more. Education is important.

ongbok		2012-04-25 08:25:45 PM

I wonder how many of these dimwits that are saying stupid stuff like this and support people who say stuff like this helped pay for their college education with student loans. I bet student loans weren't evil when they took them out.

theknuckler_33		2012-04-25 08:27:01 PM

Bhasayate: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

Right. I'm just saying if we had a big auto bailout, and a wall street bail out, we should have a student loan amnesty program, too. We have got to be fair here.

If all we did was keep interest rates on loans already given to the auto companies, you might have a point. As it stands though, you are a complete and utter moron and I hope God has mercy on your soul.

JesusJuice		2012-04-25 08:27:02 PM

Im as liberal as they come, but that isn't what he said.

Bhasayate		2012-04-25 08:27:03 PM

ongbok: I wonder how many of these dimwits that are saying stupid stuff like this and support people who say stuff like this helped pay for their college education with student loans. I bet student loans weren't evil when they took them out.

Student loans aren't evil at all. It's the pay back that's a biatch.

winterwhile		2012-04-25 08:27:14 PM

Bhasayate: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

Right. I'm just saying if we had a big auto bailout, and a wall street bail out, we should have a student loan amnesty program, too. We have got to be fair here.

How about a bail out for the common taxpayer??? you know those of us who pay taxes.

Mrtraveler01		2012-04-25 08:27:25 PM

winterwhile: I did 2 jobs (one at night, and one on the weekend) for my entire 4 years of college.

You went to a 4 year college?

Since when does Devry offer a 4 year program?

The_Gallant_Gallstone		2012-04-25 08:27:32 PM

winterwhile: which is going to cost what? economics 101....... again

A radical reconfiguration of the Department of Defense and the cessation of foreign aggression would free up the funds needed for an "Educational New Deal."

Bhasayate: Right. I'm just saying if we had a big auto bailout, and a wall street bail out, we should have a student loan amnesty program, too. We have got to be fair here.

When college kids with 85K in debt can fly their private jets to Capitol Hill to demand their bail-outs, then maybe we will see it happen.

Delay		2012-04-25 08:28:13 PM

Let me see if I can capture the argument in a few bullet points.

1) There is $1 trillion of student debt
2) There is a ngro in the White House and he is not sweeping floors
3) Socialism

That's it? Smells like a Republican argument to me. Reality: students will get an interest rate increase in their loans if Romney is elected.

Bhasayate		2012-04-25 08:28:29 PM

theknuckler_33: Bhasayate: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

Right. I'm just saying if we had a big auto bailout, and a wall street bail out, we should have a student loan amnesty program, too. We have got to be fair here.

If all we did was keep interest rates on loans already given to the auto companies, you might have a point. As it stands though, you are a complete and utter moron and I hope God has mercy on your soul.

Still, I say it'd be cool if we grant general amnesty to student loan borrowers.

Stefanwulf		2012-04-25 08:28:48 PM

winterwhile: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

when you change the interest rate, yes it is

economics 101

Wow, I agree with Winterwhile! Charging less than the going interest rate is effectively giving them some money. Not as much as the whole loan, but you're sort of subsidizing them for the difference in interest.

I'm betting that's where the agreement stops, though, because I think we should be giving the students much more than just part of what the interest would have cost.

TV's Vinnie		2012-04-25 08:29:24 PM

theknuckler_33		2012-04-25 08:29:41 PM

winterwhile: which is going to cost what? economics 101....... again

Not RAISING an interest rate is going to COST something to the entity that issued the loan? Yea, I guess it'll "cost" the extra profit they would have made from the extra interest payments.

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Bhasayate		2012-04-25 08:30:24 PM

winterwhile: Bhasayate: theknuckler_33: winterwhile: Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.

so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

How are student LOANS 'giving' money to college students?

Right. I'm just saying if we had a big auto bailout, and a wall street bail out, we should have a student loan amnesty program, too. We have got to be fair here.

How about a bail out for the common taxpayer??? you know those of us who pay taxes.

You just have to do this thing once. Once people don't have to pay back their student loan debt, they can go buy other stuff and stimulate the economy for real.

Just think how much more money would be flying around....

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