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(Columbia Daily Tribune)   Rep. Todd Akin (R-eally dumb): "Federal student loans are the stage three cancer of socialism"   (columbiatribune.com) divider line 393
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2012-04-25 03:52:00 PM
And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.
 
2012-04-25 04:06:27 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.


there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.
 
2012-04-25 04:09:14 PM

ManateeGag: Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.

there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.


First question: Do you want to run for federal office?

(Anyone who answers "yes" automatically fails.)
 
2012-04-25 04:20:53 PM
More of a rant than a post but the stupid was just too strong in some of the statements

Steelman and Akin both said they didn't support a proposal to allow citizenship for people who served in the U.S. military or earned a college diploma. "I believe we've got to take away all the incentives that are attracting the illegals to begin with," Steelman said.

The fact this type of program has worked well for other developed countries, the French Foreign legion and the British gurkhas producing citizens that speak the language and embrace the customs. It allows a path through blood during a time of war for people to better themselves and give something to a country to make them a citizen

Asked whether the candidates supported a constitutional amendment saying life begins at conception, Akin again staked out the strongest stance. "Yes, I would support a constitutional amendment," he said.

For a group that says the government spends too much money doing things they have no business in I would wonder how much would have to be sent to codify a flawed premise. They might want to look at what happened to the 18th amendment after causing pain, death, and crime because a few people thought it was a good idea and the majority failed to speak to the absurdity.

Akin said the government should be out of the student loan market altogether. "America has got the equivalent of the stage three cancer of socialism because the federal government is tampering in all kinds of stuff it has no business tampering in," he said.

Really, unemployment among people in their 20s is at records high maybe instead of complaining he could do something to help bring down the cost of higher education. An argument can be made that giving every person that attends a college a transferable credit to be applied to the cost of education and by controlling the amount, the cost of college would not be rising well above inflation. For everyone that already has a student a one time reduction in the student loan commensurate with 4 years of credit. The money that would be put back into the economy at ground level would make up for the large initial cost.
 
2012-04-25 04:28:37 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ManateeGag: Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.

there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.

First question: Do you want to run for federal office?

(Anyone who answers "yes" automatically fails.)


that would be a sanity test. we don't need that here. what does this look like, Canada?
 
2012-04-25 04:51:52 PM

ManateeGag: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ManateeGag: Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.

there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.

First question: Do you want to run for federal office?

(Anyone who answers "yes" automatically fails.)

that would be a sanity test. we don't need that here. what does this look like, Canada?


No. Canada is cleaner and they put their milk in bags, for some strange reason.
 
2012-04-25 05:28:16 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: they put their milk in bags


Aren't those called "breasts"?
 
2012-04-25 05:29:25 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ManateeGag: Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.

there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.

First question: Do you want to run for federal office?

(Anyone who answers "yes" automatically fails.)


See, this is incredibly stupid. Why exactly do you want apathetic people in charge of your government? Do you really want the President to get a call about whatever crisis and go 'fark it, I'm tired of this job?' I mean, if you want that, please vote for Sarah Palin.
 
2012-04-25 05:34:40 PM
Wait till he hears about the Post Office...
 
2012-04-25 05:38:02 PM

hubiestubert: Wait till he hears about the Post Office...


And the military.
 
2012-04-25 05:41:27 PM

Nadie_AZ: hubiestubert: Wait till he hears about the Post Office...

And the military.


Or public libraries...
 
2012-04-25 05:50:16 PM
Kudos for the Republicans and their new "hire nothing but the handicapped" policies!

/The Short Bus Party™
 
2012-04-25 05:56:03 PM
Dear GOP,

The Obama campaign was really worried about energizing young people for the upcoming elections. Thanks for helping with that.
 
2012-04-25 05:58:23 PM

kronicfeld: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: they put their milk in bags

Aren't those called "breasts"?


That settles it, I'm moving north.
 
2012-04-25 06:15:03 PM

GAT_00: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ManateeGag: Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.

there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.

First question: Do you want to run for federal office?

(Anyone who answers "yes" automatically fails.)

See, this is incredibly stupid. Why exactly do you want apathetic people in charge of your government? Do you really want the President to get a call about whatever crisis and go 'fark it, I'm tired of this job?' I mean, if you want that, please vote for Sarah Palin.


People who want to be in power should, under no circumstances, be allowed to be in power.
 
2012-04-25 06:30:01 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat [TotalFark]


People who want to be in power should, under no circumstances, be allowed to be in power.

People with Narcissistic personality disorder should not be allowed in power. The problem in both parties is the disorder seems to be a prerequisite to run for office in the last 10 years. The influence of money corrupts people once in office but the difference between politicians and snookie is only the drinking in public on camera, both scream look at me and getting well paid or reelected is more important than doing anything well.
 
2012-04-25 06:31:55 PM
I'm not a fan of student loans from the angle that they do seem to allow tuition and fees to increase at a vastly accelerated rate.

I am a fan of them from the standpoint that there's no way I could have afforded my bachelors without them.
 
2012-04-25 06:47:17 PM

eurotrader: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat [TotalFark]

People who want to be in power should, under no circumstances, be allowed to be in power.

People with Narcissistic personality disorder should not be allowed in power. The problem in both parties is the disorder seems to be a prerequisite to run for office in the last 10 years. The influence of money corrupts people once in office but the difference between politicians and snookie is only the drinking in public on camera, both scream look at me and getting well paid or reelected is more important than doing anything well.


So you agree that we should have publicly funded elections and get rid of organizations like ALEC?

Neat.
 
2012-04-25 07:00:44 PM
I don't find this claim dumb as much as inexplicable. Seriously what does this even mean?
 
2012-04-25 07:05:09 PM
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark]

So you agree that we should have publicly funded elections and get rid of organizations like ALEC?


Yes, the caveat being publicly funded election cycle limited to no more than 12 weeks with a primary to weed things out after 6 weeks and no party affiliation would be on the ballots. The lack of fund raising would mean if elected a person could do their best for the country not who is going to fund their next election. ALEC is part of the disease infecting Washington and should be severed.
 
2012-04-25 07:09:56 PM

DamnYankees: I don't find this claim dumb as much as inexplicable. Seriously what does this even mean?


False Analogy

Several factors affect the strength of the argument from analogy:

The relevance of the known similarities to the similarity inferred in the conclusion.[2][1]

The amount and variety of the examples in the analogy.[2][1]

The number of characteristics that the things being compared share.[2][1]'

An argument from analogy is weakened if it is inadequate in any of the above respects. The term "false analogy" comes from the philosopher John Stuart Mill, who was one of the first individuals to engage in a detailed examination of analogical reasoning.[2] One of Mill's examples involved an inference that some person is lazy from the observation that his or her sibling is lazy. According to Mill, sharing parents is not all that relevant to the property of laziness.[2]

A further clear example is:

Sam: "I think that people can have some affection for their cultural heritage."

Michelle: "You're just like Hitler!"

Sam: " Hell yeah!"

In the above example, Michelle has evaded a reasoned discussion by tarring Sam with an irrelevant association to an idea that Hitler used. Of course no one person is identical to another to the extent that their proposals can be disparaged by a mere reference to that other person. It is a form of ad hominem: Attacking the messenger, rather than the message.
 
2012-04-25 07:27:37 PM
Every single little insignificant thing is compared to the goddamned Holocaust with these guys. Don't they realize their rhetoric will lose its impact if they keep this up?

No, no they don't. It just feels too good to say it now.... no self-control with these guys. There dial is constantly set to "blaaaaalaargh!!"
 
2012-04-25 07:28:33 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: People who want to be in power should, under no circumstances, be allowed to be in power.


Paging Because People in power are Stupid to the thread.
 
2012-04-25 07:28:56 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I'm not a fan of student loans from the angle that they do seem to allow tuition and fees to increase at a vastly accelerated rate.

I am a fan of them from the standpoint that there's no way I could have afforded my bachelors without them.


You could make a great Tea Party member: I got mine, we can't afford anybody else's!
on the other hand maybe you're over educated and too irony aware for them
 
2012-04-25 07:29:53 PM
College should be free for every American citizen.
 
2012-04-25 07:31:01 PM

hubiestubert: Nadie_AZ: hubiestubert: Wait till he hears about the Post Office...

And the military.

Or public libraries...


And the Senate.
 
2012-04-25 07:31:26 PM

DamnYankees: I don't find this claim dumb as much as inexplicable. Seriously what does this even mean?


It means expect to hear more socialism/cancer tie ins to feed the mouth breathers in the near future.
 
2012-04-25 07:34:00 PM
Stage 3 is the good one, right?
 
2012-04-25 07:34:56 PM

I_Am_Weasel: hubiestubert: Nadie_AZ: hubiestubert: Wait till he hears about the Post Office...

And the military.

Or public libraries...

And the Senate.


Or the National Cancer Institute
 
2012-04-25 07:35:06 PM
What an idiot, stage 3 cancer patients linger only for a short while, student loans cause suffering for decades.
 
2012-04-25 07:35:13 PM

AnEvilGuest: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I'm not a fan of student loans from the angle that they do seem to allow tuition and fees to increase at a vastly accelerated rate.

I am a fan of them from the standpoint that there's no way I could have afforded my bachelors without them.

You could make a great Tea Party member: I got mine, we can't afford anybody else's!
on the other hand maybe you're over educated and too irony aware for them


Nah.

I think student loans are necessary, but I think more attention needs to be paid to the fact that some educational institutions are using them as a revenue stream without trying hard enough to restrain themselves.
 
2012-04-25 07:40:25 PM
The only thing Republican complaints about "socialism" are doing is encouraging liberals and moderates to give real socialism a second look.

/Social democracy is not a bad idea
//Stalinism is, but the people old enough to buy into cold war rhetoric vote Republican anyway.
 
2012-04-25 07:41:24 PM
What a hateful man...tenpooundsofcheese will be here soon enough to defend him I bet.
 
2012-04-25 07:42:35 PM
Todd Akin... wasn't he an American Idol contestant?
 
2012-04-25 07:43:24 PM
Big surprise for this guy, if elected, is that a lot of GOP support student loan program because many of their donors are involved in for-profit schools.....who are in business solely because of federal student loans

Mitt Romney is example one
 
2012-04-25 07:46:48 PM
So the plan is "Let's keep attacking things the majority of people like"?
 
2012-04-25 07:49:11 PM
...and yet he didn't complain about it for decades.
 
2012-04-25 07:51:50 PM

herrDrFarkenstein: I_Am_Weasel: hubiestubert: Nadie_AZ: hubiestubert: Wait till he hears about the Post Office...

And the military.

Or public libraries...

And the Senate.

Or the National Cancer Institute


Or roads.

Or the internet.

Or electrical infrastructure.

Or public parks.


for good or for awesome: So the plan is "Let's keep attacking things the majority of people like"?


I love watching GOP candidates trying to outderp one another.
 
2012-04-25 07:53:12 PM
Funny how the modern GOP despises every institution that is critical to operating a healthy democracy. Feel free to add to the list here of things that Republicans assail on a daily basis:

Higher education
The media
Taxation to fund public works
 
2012-04-25 07:54:17 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: GAT_00: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ManateeGag: Grand_Moff_Joseph: And his competition doesn't know what the Violence Against Women Act is because "I haven't been elected yet".

MORONS.

there should be a rudimentary test of the laws on the land. if you cannot pass the test, you cannot run for a federal government office.

First question: Do you want to run for federal office?

(Anyone who answers "yes" automatically fails.)

See, this is incredibly stupid. Why exactly do you want apathetic people in charge of your government? Do you really want the President to get a call about whatever crisis and go 'fark it, I'm tired of this job?' I mean, if you want that, please vote for Sarah Palin.

People who want to be in power should, under no circumstances, be allowed to be in power.


To jump off of that point, I propose we convert the House into a lottery system.

-Citizens are eligible for the lottery after reaching age 25, or graduating from a college/university/trade school; whichever comes first
-Every two years, a person is chosen by lottery, just like jury duty. Once picked, a person is barred from being picked again for at least 4 years.
-That person represents their district in the House for a standard 2 year term. At the end of the term, the lottery is held again.
-While serving, the chosen person is compensated at 110% of their last year's individual salary, up to $75K. That person will also be reimbursed (at std. rates) for trips home, up to a maximum of 4 per year.
-Meanwhile, the Senate will remain an elected body, but with terms reduced to 4 years from 6
 
2012-04-25 07:55:43 PM
Student loans are the greatest example of inflation in the real world today.

What do you think will happen to tuition if government absolves student loan debt.....hello 500k liberal arts degrees.
 
2012-04-25 08:00:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

An educated constituency in my Democracy?

/What
//Evar
///Forevar
 
2012-04-25 08:02:56 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: That person will also be reimbursed (at std. rates) for trips home


This has nothing to do with the hooker scandal, leave your partisan politics at the door.

/couldn't resist
 
2012-04-25 08:03:33 PM

Giltric: Student loans are the greatest example of inflation in the real world today.

What do you think will happen to tuition if government absolves student loan debt.....hello 500k liberal arts degrees.


As long as we use the money to occupy sandy countries and bail out billionaires and banks.

Anything else is soshulizm
 
2012-04-25 08:05:17 PM
And this is the guy representing my district in the US House.

Sigh...
 
2012-04-25 08:09:01 PM
You must really have to hate yourself and humanity in general in order to vote Republican.
 
2012-04-25 08:09:15 PM
fark that guy. I'd have not been able to get my degree without a Federal student loan. And the Pell grant is WAY too small .... it needs to be hugely expanded.

I'm also for free college education for American citizens. If we're going to compete in a global marketplace then we need an educated population.
 
2012-04-25 08:09:31 PM
There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.
 
2012-04-25 08:11:46 PM

Bhasayate: There should be a student loan bailout. For at least a bit. It's getting crazy.


so how much money are you willing to give to some college students?

give us a number.

please
 
2012-04-25 08:12:52 PM
GOD!

FREAKING!

DAMMIT!

It seems that ANY tax money spent on helping ANYONE who's not a billionaire is gonna be condemned as "socialism" by these jackwagons!
 
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