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2012-04-25 04:59:13 PM
Profedius: because it is easy to hate the TSA because they patted down a seven year old even though the article used the term groped and caused them to miss their flight.


It's easy to hate the TSA because of MANY stories just like this one.
 
2012-04-25 04:59:58 PM
Buffet: Think they're tough guys pickin' on a little crippled girl eh?? Maybe they wanna try that with me? I promise you it'd be a different story!

You'd be easy. There'd be no problem with taking your trouble-making ass to a cell and cavity-searchin' the hell out of it. There ain't no political baggage with you. And you'll pay many Gs for the privilege.
 
2012-04-25 05:00:23 PM
If you want to smuggle some illegal item on to a plane, which is smarter:

1) Hide it in your turban
2) Discreetly plant it on an easily-distracted child and then pick-pocket it on the other side of security

Sure the TSA gets out of control at times. But NOBODY should get a free pass just because they aren't profiled as a threat.
 
2012-04-25 05:01:54 PM
Pert: Yes. The TSA are behaving in a ridiculous manner here.

FTFA: "for her to be singled out, it's crazy" - she wasn't singled out, everyone has to be screened but she can't be screened via metal detector so she has to be patted down like everybody else who can't be screened via metal detectors. Yes, the rules are silly, but she wasn't singled out. You should be pleased that your disabled daughter has been treated in the same way as any other person and NOT singled out.

However, if the difference between catching your flight and missing your flight is the additional 3-5 minutes required for a pat-down then you are a screaming idiot and have not left enough time to get to your flight.

Doubly so with kids. Allow extra time.

I fly all the time and even though I KNOW I will be sitting on my fat arse for 90 minutes at the airport 90% of the time I STILL aim to get to the airport 2 or 3 hours early for each flight so that I don't miss that one flight where traffic is bad and the screeners decide to unpack all my luggage and go through it for an hour.


Instead of subjecting the citizenry and foreign visitors to such madness, how about we inject some farking sanity into the goddamn process? The nation certainly needs to be protected, and 9'11" proved as a nation we needed shore up our security. However, the TSA have gone entirely too far, and worse yet their uncompromising procedures and workforce of mouth breathers have built mistrust, and resentment in the very people they're supposed to be protecting. So instead of focusing on intelligently securing our nation, they're instead occupied by to sweep the latest gaff under the carpet. Again, most of these stupid occurrences are self inflicted wounds stemming from uncompromising, moronic security procedures, or their stupid McSecurity workforce, and it's woefully counterproductive.

Fark the TSA.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-04-25 05:01:58 PM
vudukungfu: If you don't publicly advocate against the TSA, you are a terrorist, and an advocate for facism.
FARK THE TSA
FARK THE DHS.
FARK THE PATRIOT ACT



^^^^^^^^^^^T H I S^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

/goddamnitsomuch
 
2012-04-25 05:03:02 PM
Fark U: Slaves2Darkness: Aww poor wittle mommie and her precious snow flake are inconvenienced by a little security check. Hey lady there are other forms of transportation that can get you to your destination. Ever thought of using those?

WHy? So we can start subsidizing the airline industry due to lost profits? Just like we do with Oil companies and Nuclear industry? Farming? It's all a con game, and YOUR attitude is why we are in this mess right now. Pacifist moron. Good little EGO MANIAC sheep, it's all about YOU and your TOUGH GUY bullshiat. "Uhmericuh"


What other forms? They're searching people there too. I'm sure they'll be on the turnpikes soon.
 
2012-04-25 05:03:14 PM
Congratulations terrorists.
 
2012-04-25 05:03:26 PM
Ace Rimmer: SkinnyHead: GoldSpider: SkinnyHead: I don't know. I'd leave that up to professional law enforcement agencies to develop reliable profiles. It just think it's just absurd to pretend that a disabled girl on crutches poses the same risk as someone who fits a terrorist profile.

Sure you "know". Otherwise you wouldn't find it absurd to screen a disabled girl on crutches.

Yes, I see your point. One thing they can certainly do in setting up this terrorist profile is to identify certain types of people who are less likely to pose a threat. Disabled girls on crutches would be one of them.

Another good rule of thumb is if you've already cleared the parents and didn't think they were threats, the odds they're child is a criminal mastermind that has duped them all is ZERO!


Stewie Giffon would like a word.

Also, smoke me a kipper. That is all.
 
2012-04-25 05:03:36 PM
this is why cars are still a good thing
 
2012-04-25 05:04:31 PM
Gyrfalcon: jtown: Since Dina walks with the aid of leg braces and crutches, she cannot pass through airport metal detectors, and must instead submit to a pat-down by TSA agents.

Dina, who is also reportedly developmentally disabled, is usually frightened by the procedure. Her family reportedly requests that agents on hand take the time to introduce themselves to her.

If air travel is so traumatic for your daughter why do you keep subjecting her to it? It's not like this is your first trip and the first time your daughter has been groped by the TSA and it's not the first time it's made her uncomfortable. I can give a pass to parents to rarely travel and don't realize the situation they're getting into but that's not the case here. For fark's sake, stop torturing her by putting her in a situation where you KNOW she's going to be groped by strangers. Take the train or drive and write letters to your representatives explaining how the TSA's policies are having a negative impact on your quality of life. There's no need to continue to put your daughter through this.

Sure, why not take an extra six days to go on vacation or get to an important medical appointment because a stupid government policy makes it unpleasant to fly? Take the extra dangers involved in driving or rail travel, plus the extra costs involved. Kowtow to the asinine rules we've put in place for no reason and write letters that will have no impact on anyone while you incur costs and headaches and stay housebound. It's for your safety, citizen!


If you want to expose tyranny, go for it. But don't use dependents as pawns. After the first few experiences, that should be plenty of evidence to support any stance they want to take against the TSA. Don't put some poor developmentally disabled kid with CP in a frightening situation over and over just to make a point that's already been made.
 
2012-04-25 05:04:50 PM
thetubameister: Fark U: Slaves2Darkness: Aww poor wittle mommie and her precious snow flake are inconvenienced by a little security check. Hey lady there are other forms of transportation that can get you to your destination. Ever thought of using those?

WHy? So we can start subsidizing the airline industry due to lost profits? Just like we do with Oil companies and Nuclear industry? Farming? It's all a con game, and YOUR attitude is why we are in this mess right now. Pacifist moron. Good little EGO MANIAC sheep, it's all about YOU and your TOUGH GUY bullshiat. "Uhmericuh"

What other forms? They're searching people there too. I'm sure they'll be on the turnpikes soon.


if the TSA starts showing up on the turnpikes, i'm quitting America
 
2012-04-25 05:05:51 PM
IrateShadow: Fark U: //do MF'ers even bother to learn history anymore? There is no "national identity" anymore, all because of a couple planes and buildings. We lost our G.D. minds, really. Should have SPOKEN UP EARLIER! We're screwed, forget about "freedom" it's an old tagline like Wal-Mart's "Made in the USA!" propaganda from the 90's. buh bye!

Speaking up sooner wouldn't have done shiat. The government wants additional power and we have plenty of hayseeds that think that they haven't yet gone far enough. Everyone else gets drowned out by the rabble.


Plenty of urban progressives too.

That's the problem with stretching the definitions of what the Constitution permits the government to do. If you bend the rules to give them more power when you like the results, don't be surprised when the same rules get bent to achieve results you don't like.

If its worth having the government do it, it is worth the effort to pass an amendment to allow them to do it.

But no, we went the lazy path, and the gov is taking advantage of that.
 
2012-04-25 05:06:08 PM
Profedius: What do you propose we have instead of the TSA? I am not trolling just wondering, because it is easy to hate the TSA because they patted down a seven year old even though the article used the term groped and caused them to miss their flight. If the people missed their flight they must have not shown up 2 hours before the flight like you are told to so I am just going to dismiss my outrage over missing the flight part. I can't see us not having anything to screen passengers even without terrorists you have insane people. We could all fly nude with no carry on bags or change into a flight suit at the airport.

I guess I really don't have a problem with the TSA. When I fly I bought my ticket knowing full well that I am going to be subjected to a pat down so it is not as though I wasn't expecting it. I really don't care if they grab my penis hell I wouldn't even care if they jerked me off. I guess people are just more self conscience about their bodies.

Now if I am not expecting to be searched as in I am just walking down the street or in my home I would have a big problem with it.


Because I'd rather drive 10+ hours than have my wife and/or daughter potentially molested in front of me. How many decades did we fight the cold war only to adopt the paranoid policies of the USSR?

If a terrorist organization really wants to blow up an airplane, they will make an honest attempt to blow up an airplane. They won't put a fire cracker in some idiot's shoe or underwear.
 
2012-04-25 05:06:09 PM
What a terrorist might look like.

healthbump.info
 
2012-04-25 05:07:23 PM
TheOtherMisterP: If you want to smuggle some illegal item on to a plane, which is smarter:

1) Hide it in your turban
2) Discreetly plant it on an easily-distracted child and then pick-pocket it on the other side of security

Sure the TSA gets out of control at times. But NOBODY should get a free pass just because they aren't profiled as a threat.


yeah, that will work, because no one in the USA would freak the hell out at a stranger getting a little too friendly with a child.... twice.

Much less risky is:
3) Get a friend (janitor, baggage handler, food worker, security, executive... whatever) on the inside to do it for you.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-04-25 05:07:50 PM
AdamK: thetubameister: Fark U: Slaves2Darkness: Aww poor wittle mommie and her precious snow flake are inconvenienced by a little security check. Hey lady there are other forms of transportation that can get you to your destination. Ever thought of using those?

WHy? So we can start subsidizing the airline industry due to lost profits? Just like we do with Oil companies and Nuclear industry? Farming? It's all a con game, and YOUR attitude is why we are in this mess right now. Pacifist moron. Good little EGO MANIAC sheep, it's all about YOU and your TOUGH GUY bullshiat. "Uhmericuh"

What other forms? They're searching people there too. I'm sure they'll be on the turnpikes soon.

if the TSA starts showing up on the turnpikes, i'm quitting America


If those asshats take to the highways I will periodically have an "unexpected seizure" resulting in accidental death of a TSA agent.
 
2012-04-25 05:09:23 PM
Sticky Hands: TheOtherMisterP: If you want to smuggle some illegal item on to a plane, which is smarter:

1) Hide it in your turban
2) Discreetly plant it on an easily-distracted child and then pick-pocket it on the other side of security

Sure the TSA gets out of control at times. But NOBODY should get a free pass just because they aren't profiled as a threat.

yeah, that will work, because no one in the USA would freak the hell out at a stranger getting a little too friendly with a child.... twice.

Much less risky is:
3) Get a friend (janitor, baggage handler, food worker, security, executive... whatever) on the inside to do it for you.


That and the TSA isn't supposed to be screening for illegal contraband. Their only job is to screen for things that would present a danger to the safety of the passengers and aircraft.
 
2012-04-25 05:10:33 PM
Profedius: What do you propose we have instead of the TSA? I am not trolling just wondering...

A reasonable level of security. Walk Through Metal Detector (practically all the dangerous items the TSA blog draws attention to finding would be found by a simple metal detector), all bags go through xray/bomb scan. Maybe a few explosive sniffers (canine or mechanical), too.

NO taking water bottles.
NO taking off shoes.
NO nudie-scanners.
NO patting down people who obviously aren't hiding anything.

I mean, really, what could she be hiding in there???
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Um, is the TSA hiring Phrenologists now?
msnbcmedia2.msn.com

TSA: Titty Searching Assholes
hipsterclub.files.wordpress.com
cdn.theatlantic.com

I mean, really?
 
2012-04-25 05:12:04 PM
Hershey Highway Patrol: I'm surprised I don't see articles about someone punching a TSA agent for overly frisking their kid.

Do it in Florida and use the Stand Your Ground defense.
 
2012-04-25 05:14:55 PM
JDAT: What a terrorist might look like.

[healthbump.info image 634x861]


That won't fit in an overhead bin
 
2012-04-25 05:14:59 PM
Jacobin: TSA must be hiring de-Frocked priests

Nah, kid in the article was a female....not their preferred demo.
 
2012-04-25 05:15:23 PM
snocone: I am betting you are paid by the hour.

Nope. Currently back at college but when I was flying all the time I was paid by the day, so if I was flying on a Sunday I'd get paid for the Sunday and it was my own time I was wasting (i.e. could have been at home with wife and kid for another hour or two). Sometimes I didn't even get paid for "fly days", in which case I was wasting time and not being paid.
 
2012-04-25 05:20:30 PM
Arctic Phoenix: Jake Havechek: Arctic Phoenix: Jake Havechek: Arctic Phoenix: What did airport security in the US do prior to 9/11 with regards to kids?

/Genuinely curious
//Did they get searched?
///If so, why is it a big deal now all of a sudden?

They profiled to see if somebody was acting nervous. Kkids for the most part had to go through the metal detector like everyone else, no special treatment.

So what about the kids that rang the metal detector or couldn't go through it? What happened to them then?

They had to empty their pockets like everyone else. Everybody went through. It's not like little kids have metal bridgework or a pacemaker, professor.

Not all kids can walk. And yes, a child CAN have a pacemaker. It isn't common, but it DOES happen occasionally. Some kids are disabled from the time they're small, too. What did they do with the kids that couldn't walk through the metal detector?


I'm not 100% sure but I think anyone in a wheelchair just got wanded. Airport security was pretty simply in those days.

Heck. prior to 9/11, non-passengers could go through security and you could see your loved ones off at the gate and watch the plane take off, or you could be waiting for them at the gate when they landed.

/If the TSA had existed in 2001, it likely would not have prevented 9/11
//Requiring flight crews to lock the cockpit doors would have been enough
/// Also, it helps when the people on the plane realize they outnumber the hijackers 50 to 1 and all he has is a box cutter.
 
2012-04-25 05:22:20 PM
scatters: Ace Rimmer: SkinnyHead: GoldSpider: SkinnyHead: I don't know. I'd leave that up to professional law enforcement agencies to develop reliable profiles. It just think it's just absurd to pretend that a disabled girl on crutches poses the same risk as someone who fits a terrorist profile.

Sure you "know". Otherwise you wouldn't find it absurd to screen a disabled girl on crutches.

Yes, I see your point. One thing they can certainly do in setting up this terrorist profile is to identify certain types of people who are less likely to pose a threat. Disabled girls on crutches would be one of them.

Another good rule of thumb is if you've already cleared the parents and didn't think they were threats, the odds they're child is a criminal mastermind that has duped them all is ZERO!

Stewie Giffon would like a word.

Also, smoke me a kipper. That is all.


Great, I will rest easier knowing the TSA security model is based on protecting me from cartoon characters.
 
2012-04-25 05:22:37 PM
Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Arctic Phoenix: Jake Havechek: Arctic Phoenix: Jake Havechek: Arctic Phoenix: What did airport security in the US do prior to 9/11 with regards to kids?

/Genuinely curious
//Did they get searched?
///If so, why is it a big deal now all of a sudden?

They profiled to see if somebody was acting nervous. Kkids for the most part had to go through the metal detector like everyone else, no special treatment.

So what about the kids that rang the metal detector or couldn't go through it? What happened to them then?

They had to empty their pockets like everyone else. Everybody went through. It's not like little kids have metal bridgework or a pacemaker, professor.

Not all kids can walk. And yes, a child CAN have a pacemaker. It isn't common, but it DOES happen occasionally. Some kids are disabled from the time they're small, too. What did they do with the kids that couldn't walk through the metal detector?

I'm not 100% sure but I think anyone in a wheelchair just got wanded. Airport security was pretty simply in those days.

Heck. prior to 9/11, non-passengers could go through security and you could see your loved ones off at the gate and watch the plane take off, or you could be waiting for them at the gate when they landed.

/If the TSA had existed in 2001, it likely would not have prevented 9/11
//Requiring flight crews to lock the cockpit doors would have been enough
/// Also, it helps when the people on the plane realize they outnumber the hijackers 50 to 1 and all he has is a box cutter.


Got wanded?! Wheelchairs are full of metal, what's the point of that? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Wouldn't they have to pat down areas that alarmed? Meaning that the entire person would need to be patted down, since they would alarm everywhere?
 
2012-04-25 05:24:11 PM
AdamK: if the TSA starts showing up on the turnpikes, i'm quitting America

I'm sorry to tell you this, but...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/02/29/the-tsa-is-coming-to- a -highway-near-you/
 
2012-04-25 05:24:43 PM
There is nothing that child could have hidden on her person in that outfit of a size that couldn't be shoved up the ass or snatch of an adult, and then be undetectable. That is why this is all farking ridiculous. Want to inspect her crutches for a gun? Fine. Other than that, what exactly were you going to find?

THE TSA ISN'T STOPPING FARKING ANYTHING.
 
2012-04-25 05:24:53 PM
I expect to read (soon) where an NRA-loving anti-government type takes an arsenal to the airport and goes Charles Whitman on all the TSOs visible. And then lie in wait to take out the TSA managers who finally poke their heads out to see why the line is now moving efficiently.
 
2012-04-25 05:25:09 PM
fredklein:

I mean, really, what could she be hiding in there???


I'd like to know, she looks kinda hot.
 
2012-04-25 05:25:34 PM
All Obama needs is 4 more years to fix this.
 
2012-04-25 05:26:26 PM
The TSA: an experiment in sociology.

Q: "Hmm... wonder how much crap Americans will put up with before they revolt?"
A: "Apparently... ANY amount of crap!"

fark the TSA.
 
2012-04-25 05:26:58 PM
Profedius: What do you propose we have instead of the TSA? I am not trolling just wondering, because it is easy to hate the TSA because they patted down a seven year old even though the article used the term groped and caused them to miss their flight. If the people missed their flight they must have not shown up 2 hours before the flight like you are told to so I am just going to dismiss my outrage over missing the flight part. I can't see us not having anything to screen passengers even without terrorists you have insane people. We could all fly nude with no carry on bags or change into a flight suit at the airport.

I guess I really don't have a problem with the TSA. When I fly I bought my ticket knowing full well that I am going to be subjected to a pat down so it is not as though I wasn't expecting it. I really don't care if they grab my penis hell I wouldn't even care if they jerked me off. I guess people are just more self conscience about their bodies.

Now if I am not expecting to be searched as in I am just walking down the street or in my home I would have a big problem with it.


Howabout just a regular old metal detector, like we had before 9/11? Those worked fine to keep most weapons off the plane. Like I and others have said repeatedly, it wasn't the box cutters that caused the hijackings, it was the policy and the mindset: Cooperate with the hijackers, obey their commands, don't fight back--that caused the hijackings and subsequent crashes. Those policies have been changed. As we've now seen, pilots do not open cockpit doors, flights are immediately diverted and landed, and passengers no longer sit passively and do what they're told.

All the rest is mere gobbledegook. People who rant that hijackers "might" use unsuspecting people to smuggle bombs aboard planes ignore the psychology of terrorism, and the dynamics of what happened on 9/11. People who insist that we need to avoid or prevent another 9/11 seem not to realize 9/11 cannot happen again anyway so all the TSA security theater is, is making the barn a vault after the horses have long since fled. What's needed to prevent the next potential hijacking is to understand what the next potential hijackers might seek to gain from such an attack. We don't do that by strip-searching 7-year old crippled children and 90-year old war veterans. For the rest, just keeping handguns off planes and locking the cockpit doors is probably more than adequate.
 
2012-04-25 05:27:08 PM
media2.myfoxdc.com
 
2012-04-25 05:28:41 PM
snocone: ourbigdumbmouth:
Rapiscan, the company that makes the scanners


seems appropriate
 
2012-04-25 05:29:57 PM
Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: /// Also, it helps when the people on the plane realize they outnumber the hijackers 50 to 1 and all he has is a box cutter.

There's also a huge change in passenger mindset that came a result of 9/11. Prior to those events, passengers largely obeyed hijackers because the worst case scenario was that you would be held hostage for a few hours until you landed in a random Latin country. shiat wouldn't go down like that anymore.
 
2012-04-25 05:30:26 PM
Ace Rimmer: Great, I will rest easier knowing the TSA security model is based on protecting me from cartoon characters.

According to the TSA's own Blogger Bob, The TSA takes it's ideas from action movies: "There's always the chance that a prohibited item could be traded off during contact. I'm sure you've watched the scene play out in more than one movie where two people collide or shake hands and an item is traded off? Same thing... "

How reassuring. :-/
 
2012-04-25 05:30:29 PM
Fark U: what American life was like 'pre-Bush'so

Err...it was already a forgone conclusion long before Bush1 was elected, much less the Bush2 to which I assume you're referring. ECHELON was already spying on all your phone calls and emails back in Clinton's day (and before) as a minor example - and that one really has roots all the way back to WW2.
 
2012-04-25 05:31:48 PM
Arctic Phoenix: Got wanded?! Wheelchairs are full of metal, what's the point of that?

The PERSON got wanded, after being moved from the wheel chair to a non-metalic seat.
 
2012-04-25 05:33:09 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: You libtards won't think it's so funny the next time a 7 year old disabled girl flies an airliner into a building

/never forget


Well played, sir.
 
2012-04-25 05:35:11 PM
SkinnyHead: Instead of searching disabled children who obviously pose no threat, why don't they focus on passengers who actually fit the profile of a terrorist?

I agree. They should focus on anyone who looks like these individuals
telegraph.feedsportal.com
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-25 05:35:12 PM
Gyrfalcon: For the rest, just keeping handguns off planes

I'm not even worried about a gun on a plane. In a people-dense sealed environment with a bulletproof cockpit door and more people than you have bullets, you will ultimately lose. You will not me martyred but humiliated. What the hell would be the point? You could open fire on a mall crowd from a secure location and be much more successful. The only one who would try something with a gun on a plane would be a random crazy, and you are at as much risk from one of those in line at the grocery store.
 
2012-04-25 05:35:13 PM
fredklein: According to the TSA's own Blogger Bob, The TSA takes it's ideas from action movies: "There's always the chance that a prohibited item could be traded off during contact. I'm sure you've watched the scene play out in more than one movie where two people collide or shake hands and an item is traded off? Same thing... "

How reassuring. :-/


That was obvious to everyone after the liquid ban started.
 
2012-04-25 05:36:04 PM
Mind if i touch your balls, sir?

southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2012-04-25 05:37:00 PM
namegoeshere: There is nothing that child could have hidden on her person in that outfit of a size that couldn't be shoved up the ass or snatch of an adult, and then be undetectable.

Exactly. Anyone who watches a good amount of porn can testify as to the capacity of...er, certain places.

/ ...um, or so I've been told.
 
2012-04-25 05:38:42 PM
IrateShadow: That was obvious to everyone after the liquid ban started.

3.bp.blogspot.com

/Pancake syrup?!?!
 
2012-04-25 05:39:35 PM
fredklein: namegoeshere: There is nothing that child could have hidden on her person in that outfit of a size that couldn't be shoved up the ass or snatch of an adult, and then be undetectable.

Exactly. Anyone who watches a good amount of porn can testify as to the capacity of...er, certain places.

/ ...um, or so I've been told.


LOLs. I used to do some work in a prison. I was thinking of the stories I heard from the guards. You'd be amazed at the stuff that's been smuggled in up there.

Well, maybe you wouldn't, if you're in to that sort of thing...
 
2012-04-25 05:44:20 PM
fredklein: Profedius: What do you propose we have instead of the TSA? I am not trolling just wondering...

A reasonable level of security. Walk Through Metal Detector (practically all the dangerous items the TSA blog draws attention to finding would be found by a simple metal detector), all bags go through xray/bomb scan. Maybe a few explosive sniffers (canine or mechanical), too.

NO taking water bottles.
NO taking off shoes.
NO nudie-scanners.
NO patting down people who obviously aren't hiding anything.

I mean, really, what could she be hiding in there???
[www.thegatewaypundit.com image 600x400]

Um, is the TSA hiring Phrenologists now?
[msnbcmedia2.msn.com image 640x459]

TSA: Titty Searching Assholes
[hipsterclub.files.wordpress.com image 452x301]
[cdn.theatlantic.com image 600x300]

I mean, really?


Thanks for responding with an actual suggestion instead of they are raping my wife and daughter in front of me which is highly unlikely. I mean do we really think they are getting off on it is that the deal? That hair one throws me all I kind think of was maybe her hair was puffy. I can think of a great number of things I could hide between a woman's breasts including and explosive powerful enough to blow at least a 20 foot hole in the side of the plane. Then again if I wanted to bring down a plane what they are doing now wouldn't be enough to stop me. I have received training that average people wouldn't have or care to have, but I am sure if desire is present the knowledge could be obtained.
 
2012-04-25 05:44:41 PM
Arctic Phoenix: What did airport security in the US do prior to 9/11 with regards to kids?

/Genuinely curious
//Did they get searched?
///If so, why is it a big deal now all of a sudden?


In general, kids and adults were allowed to go through with mace and box cutters.
 
2012-04-25 05:44:47 PM
AdamK: this is why cars are still a good thing

You would almost think there is a PLOT afoot to discourage air travel.
Whar's my helmet?

We all know it is just training for the New Orderlies.
 
2012-04-25 05:45:26 PM
boozehat: Arctic Phoenix: What did airport security in the US do prior to 9/11 with regards to kids?

/Genuinely curious
//Did they get searched?
///If so, why is it a big deal now all of a sudden?

In general, kids and adults were allowed to go through with mace and box cutters.


And Boy Scout knives.
 
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