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2012-04-25 01:52:19 PM
Disappointing, but still doesn't validate string theory...

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

...PhDumbass.
 
2012-04-25 02:28:16 PM
Science would be so much easier if we could just say "god did it" and go back to herding sheep.
 
2012-04-25 02:32:00 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Disappointing, but still doesn't validate string theory...

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 350x265]

...PhDumbass.


I see I'm not needed here. But I can still try:

images.wikia.com

"Hey, look, my idea has an internal logical consistency."

"Oh, not anymore, sweetie."
 
2012-04-25 02:57:27 PM

Quasar: Science would be so much easier if we could just say "god did it" and go back to herding sheep.


If read without sarcasm, rather ironic coming from someone with a name like yours.
 
2012-04-25 03:09:06 PM
I'm proud that I can understand a third of that.

TBBT is an obnoxious show, BTW but what do I know.
 
2012-04-25 04:27:39 PM

Quasar: Science would be so much easier if we could just say "god did it" and go back to herding sheep.


Oh, I imagine someone will be along fairly soon to imply exactly that.
 
2012-04-25 04:35:31 PM

dahmers love zombie: Quasar: Science would be so much easier if we could just say "god did it" and go back to herding sheep.

Oh, I imagine someone will be along fairly soon to imply exactly that.


I think they have their hands full in the fossil fuel thread. I don't think they have the capacity to also deal with a String/M Theory thread. Except, perhaps, if they resort to the literal throwing of copious amounts of shiat.
 
2012-04-25 05:28:38 PM
Turtles all the way down.

Honestly, I actually hope that results are not exactly what the physicists expect. Something strange and unexpected would be far more exciting.
 
2012-04-25 05:35:22 PM

JonBuck: Turtles all the way down.

Honestly, I actually hope that results are not exactly what the physicists expect. Something strange and unexpected would be far more exciting.


There was a paper a few years ago -- I wish I could find it -- where the authors claimed that observing the Higgs Boson would cause some sort of universal catastrophe, so the universe actually adjusts itself so you can never find the particle. It was pretty obviously a joke paper (with a lot of math to back it up, because all physicists/mathematicians can't help but actually figure these things out), but personally...I would be incredibly amused if it ended up with the universe trolling everyone.
 
2012-04-25 05:35:55 PM
Mazinga!

www.wildtoys.com
 
2012-04-25 05:36:06 PM
It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.
 
2012-04-25 05:43:38 PM

Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.


I hate it for furthering stupid stereotypes and providing mainstream examples for identity-grasping idiots to cling to...

"What, you don't have a retro NES t-shirt? You're not a geek!"
 
2012-04-25 05:43:44 PM

Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.


At first I thought it tried too hard. I'm starting to enjoy it more now, but it still insists upon itself.
 
2012-04-25 05:44:02 PM

Quasar: Science would be so much easier if we could just say "god did it" and go back to herding sheep.


You're like a sexy toddler
 
2012-04-25 05:46:12 PM

INeedAName: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

At first I thought it tried too hard. I'm starting to enjoy it more now, but it still insists upon itself.


It's no Community, but I do still enjoy it. It's a bit of a nerd minstrel show, but Sheldon torturing his buddies is amusing.
 
2012-04-25 05:50:05 PM

Dr.Knockboots: Mazinga!

[www.wildtoys.com image 377x239]


I had him when I was a kid!
 
2012-04-25 05:53:59 PM
an expensive miss

agreeably necessary given our time and place

keep observing, documenting and replicating

that's all it ever is

wot

need to use opposable thumbs
 
2012-04-25 05:56:12 PM

Diogenes: I think they have their hands full in the fossil fuel thread. I don't think they have the capacity to also deal with a String/M Theory thread. Except, perhaps, if they resort to the literal throwing of copious amounts of shiat.


There's a fossil fuel thread? where?
 
2012-04-25 05:58:25 PM

mongbiohazard: INeedAName: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

At first I thought it tried too hard. I'm starting to enjoy it more now, but it still insists upon itself.

It's no Community, but I do still enjoy it. It's a bit of a nerd minstrel show, but Sheldon torturing his buddies is amusing.


It does get props for having the most realistic depiction of a science lab that I've seen on TV, but I don't understand the continual presence of Star Trek TOS on that show. For Christ's sake that show went off the air 43 years ago, but HA HA NERDS LIKE STAR TREK AMIRITE

/some great racks on TBBT though
 
2012-04-25 05:58:43 PM

rwfan: Diogenes: I think they have their hands full in the fossil fuel thread. I don't think they have the capacity to also deal with a String/M Theory thread. Except, perhaps, if they resort to the literal throwing of copious amounts of shiat.

There's a fossil fuel thread? where?


Here.
 
2012-04-25 06:03:39 PM

Diogenes: rwfan: Diogenes: I think they have their hands full in the fossil fuel thread. I don't think they have the capacity to also deal with a String/M Theory thread. Except, perhaps, if they resort to the literal throwing of copious amounts of shiat.

There's a fossil fuel thread? where?

Here.


OMG, that's hilarious. thanks.
 
2012-04-25 06:14:56 PM

Mugato: I'm proud that I can understand a third of that.

TBBT is an obnoxious show, BTW but what do I know.


Lemme guess: you're a "really smart guy" (i.e., geek, nerd, brainiac, etc) who is offended by the stereotypes?

I only ask because the only other person I know who finds the show obnoxious (as opposed to liking it or simply not finding it humorous) is, well, fairly well reflected in the stereotypes depicted in the show.

/that show is 90% of my friends
//except the hot chick, unfortunately
///not even a neighbor
 
2012-04-25 06:22:43 PM
"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

-HHGTTG
 
2012-04-25 06:32:37 PM

LockeOak: mongbiohazard: INeedAName: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

At first I thought it tried too hard. I'm starting to enjoy it more now, but it still insists upon itself.

It's no Community, but I do still enjoy it. It's a bit of a nerd minstrel show, but Sheldon torturing his buddies is amusing.

It does get props for having the most realistic depiction of a science lab that I've seen on TV, but I don't understand the continual presence of Star Trek TOS on that show. For Christ's sake that show went off the air 43 years ago, but HA HA NERDS LIKE STAR TREK AMIRITE

/some great racks on TBBT though



/cry

I resemble that remark. Start Trek TOS is my favorite Star Trek. Meanie.
 
2012-04-25 06:36:50 PM

mongbiohazard: LockeOak: mongbiohazard: INeedAName: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

At first I thought it tried too hard. I'm starting to enjoy it more now, but it still insists upon itself.

It's no Community, but I do still enjoy it. It's a bit of a nerd minstrel show, but Sheldon torturing his buddies is amusing.

It does get props for having the most realistic depiction of a science lab that I've seen on TV, but I don't understand the continual presence of Star Trek TOS on that show. For Christ's sake that show went off the air 43 years ago, but HA HA NERDS LIKE STAR TREK AMIRITE

/some great racks on TBBT though


/cry

I resemble that remark. Start Trek TOS is my favorite Star Trek. Meanie.


I would counter, but debating the merits of the various Star Trek series would defeat my own argument.
 
2012-04-25 06:39:35 PM

Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.


It's funny, because I don't think its very close at all to how most scientists act. I spent many years in physics, and I didn't know more than maybe 1 person who was actually into comic books for example.

Now with software and computer people, hell yes it hits close to home.
 
2012-04-25 06:42:37 PM

Krazikarl: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

It's funny, because I don't think its very close at all to how most scientists act. I spent many years in physics, and I didn't know more than maybe 1 person who was actually into comic books for example.

Now with software and computer people, hell yes it hits close to home.


Yeah, actual scientists don't have time for that shiat.
 
2012-04-25 06:48:29 PM
dahmers love zombie
Quasar: Science would be so much easier if we
could just say "god did it" and go back to
herding sheep.
Oh, I imagine someone will be along fairly soon to imply exactly that.
`
I wonder who that could be? Vets of these threads know better.
 
2012-04-25 06:51:36 PM

LockeOak: mongbiohazard: LockeOak: mongbiohazard: INeedAName: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

At first I thought it tried too hard. I'm starting to enjoy it more now, but it still insists upon itself.

It's no Community, but I do still enjoy it. It's a bit of a nerd minstrel show, but Sheldon torturing his buddies is amusing.

It does get props for having the most realistic depiction of a science lab that I've seen on TV, but I don't understand the continual presence of Star Trek TOS on that show. For Christ's sake that show went off the air 43 years ago, but HA HA NERDS LIKE STAR TREK AMIRITE

/some great racks on TBBT though


/cry

I resemble that remark. Start Trek TOS is my favorite Star Trek. Meanie.

I would counter, but debating the merits of the various Star Trek series would defeat my own argument.



That's too bad... I wanted the excuse to post:

i182.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-25 06:54:44 PM

Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.


I can't speak for anyone else but what bothers me is the laugh-track. And the set. And the hackish acting. And that blonde chick with the fat arms. And the theme song. And the entire wardrobe department. And that guy who does the voiceovers for the promos. And the font used in the logo.
 
2012-04-25 06:56:56 PM

LockeOak: Krazikarl: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

It's funny, because I don't think its very close at all to how most scientists act. I spent many years in physics, and I didn't know more than maybe 1 person who was actually into comic books for example.

Now with software and computer people, hell yes it hits close to home.

Yeah, actual scientists don't have time for that shiat.


THIS
 
2012-04-25 07:08:04 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Mugato: I'm proud that I can understand a third of that.

TBBT is an obnoxious show, BTW but what do I know.

Lemme guess: you're a "really smart guy" (i.e., geek, nerd, brainiac, etc) who is offended by the stereotypes?



No, not offended. It's just obnoxious. The characters are obnoxious. It doesn't hit close to home because no one I know is a caricature of nerds or scientists. Writing caricatures of nerds and scientists could be funny if it was written funny but it isn't. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. The ratings and general populous is on your side.
 
2012-04-25 07:18:42 PM

Diogenes: Dr.Knockboots: Mazinga!

[www.wildtoys.com image 377x239]

I had him when I was a kid!


That was my favorite all-time Christmas present when I was nine. He. Was. AWESOME!!!
 
2012-04-25 07:21:57 PM

INeedAName: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.

At first I thought it tried too hard. I'm starting to enjoy it more now, but it still insists upon itself.


"Insists upon itself; what does that even mean?"

/Like the show; think it's goofy-funny
 
2012-04-25 07:30:53 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: "What, you don't have a retro NES t-shirt

layered over another, longer-sleeved T-shirt? And a big round head? You're not a geek!"

The geeks I know, myself included, do not dress or act like the ones on that sitcom. Not that we dress or act any better, just different.
 
2012-04-25 07:36:35 PM
TBBT grew on me based on watching the actors play off each other, like any decent comedy should do. They have a good rhythm and good chemistry.

/got nothing in terms of TFA
//Understood most of it so I feel good about myself
 
2012-04-25 07:39:08 PM
Never really liked it.
Every episode I've seen just sounds like the writers ask one another, "Hey, what's something smart people do that is stupid?" and the answers seem to be things like:

"They use robots to pleasure themselves!"
"They can't talk to girls!"
"They have uncontrollable OCD!"

And then a room full of writers look at there consultant smart guy, who probably responds with something like:

"Well, I guess it is technically possible, but-"

"Good enough for us!"

So, I guess I would put it right up there with shows like Reno 911.
 
2012-04-25 07:39:58 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.
I hate it for furthering stupid stereotypes and providing mainstream examples for identity-grasping idiots to cling to...
"What, you don't have a retro NES t-shirt? You're not a geek!"


I hate it for not being a geek/science show but a chick-flick show with geek/science trappings (much in the same way many sports movies are really chick flicks in disguise, like Jerry Maguire or anything with Kevin Costner in it).

I thought Big Bang Theory was funny for about the first half of the first season, when it was about these super dorks freaking out their neighbor with their off-putting weirdness like actual geeks. The show should've continued along that theme, with them waylaying her like Calvin terrorizing Suzie. The show could've taken the perspective of her, a normal person, reacting to how geek subcultures think, act and operate within a less dialectic world, opening the door to a whole branch of observational humor (how subcultural social tribes perceive each other and themselves). It would've been great if she were portrayed as being just as intelligent as they are, just without the education and the geek mindset (ie: street smart), and have her armed with normal social skills (as opposed to their aspergers-like tics) that allows her to make vicious-tongued snipes at their proclivities all the time. This would simultaneously garner their respect and enmity, making her a worthy foil for their antics.

At least, that's how it should have played out.

But the problem is the show developed a female geek following, and female geeks watch geek/sci-fi stuff different than male geeks. Specifically, they are obsessive shippers. The show's creators and writers took note of this and gradually shifted the show's focus from geek and sciencey stuff to relationship bullshiat. Consequently, the social behavior in all but one of the geeks graduated into normalcy in order to placate this relationship bullshiat.

Now the show has basically become Friends..... with doctorate degrees.

And no, that is not a good thing. Friends was a turgid show.
 
2012-04-25 07:42:59 PM

Ishkur: DeathByGeekSquad: Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.
I hate it for furthering stupid stereotypes and providing mainstream examples for identity-grasping idiots to cling to...
"What, you don't have a retro NES t-shirt? You're not a geek!"

I hate it for not being a geek/science show but a chick-flick show with geek/science trappings (much in the same way many sports movies are really chick flicks in disguise, like Jerry Maguire or anything with Kevin Costner in it).

I thought Big Bang Theory was funny for about the first half of the first season, when it was about these super dorks freaking out their neighbor with their off-putting weirdness like actual geeks. The show should've continued along that theme, with them waylaying her like Calvin terrorizing Suzie. The show could've taken the perspective of her, a normal person, reacting to how geek subcultures think, act and operate within a less dialectic world, opening the door to a whole branch of observational humor (how subcultural social tribes perceive each other and themselves). It would've been great if she were portrayed as being just as intelligent as they are, just without the education and the geek mindset (ie: street smart), and have her armed with normal social skills (as opposed to their aspergers-like tics) that allows her to make vicious-tongued snipes at their proclivities all the time. This would simultaneously garner their respect and enmity, making her a worthy foil for their antics.

At least, that's how it should have played out.

But the problem is the show developed a female geek following, and female geeks watch geek/sci-fi stuff different than male geeks. Specifically, they are obsessive shippers. The show's creators and writers took note of this and gradually shifted the show's focus from geek and sciencey stuff to relationship bullshiat. Consequently, the social behavior in all but one of the geeks graduated into no ...


You sound like a massive geek, btw.
 
2012-04-25 07:44:45 PM
Rent "Free Enterprise". That's how geeks act. Not necessarily as smart but on the sci-fi movie/comic book tip, that was pretty spot on. And it had Shatner.
 
2012-04-25 07:46:31 PM
Only slightly related, but, is it wrong that I have a thing for Veronica Belmont (GIS, damn it)?.
 
2012-04-25 07:46:58 PM
It's actually a remake of a British show called "The IT Crowd", which was far funnier, anyway. They took some liberties in the translation, but you know I'm right.
 
2012-04-25 07:47:35 PM

CygnusDarius: is it wrong that I have a thing for Veronica Belmont


I don't know. Are you a vampire?
 
2012-04-25 07:56:04 PM

Ishkur: I thought Big Bang Theory was funny for about the first half of the first season, when it was about these super dorks freaking out their neighbor with their off-putting weirdness like actual geeks. ........ At least, that's how it should have played out....


I believe its called 'evolution'. Maybe you have heard of it. Things change based on the environment, not 'what SHOULD have been'. That's why Steve Jobs died on the Pi. Its spelled out pretty plainly in Fortran 4:2 "And Kahn said unto the Jawaas...."......
 
2012-04-25 08:13:04 PM

verbaltoxin: You sound like a massive geek, btw.


I am a massive geek. I'm a massive geek who farking hates TBBT.
 
2012-04-25 08:22:24 PM

iron_city_ap: I believe its called 'evolution'


Actually, you have that confused with the Second Law of Teledynamics: In any closed-circuit televised medium, the quality level of entertainment tends toward thermal equilibrium or television entropy, in Neilson parlance "lowest common denominator" or absolute zero, passing through a state of superposition termed the JumpShark.
 
2012-04-25 08:43:02 PM
There is no super symmetry. If such a thing occurred the universe would collapse until the next non symmetry. It is the imbalance that keeps things moving and changing.
 
2012-04-25 08:51:17 PM

Ishkur: iron_city_ap: I believe its called 'evolution'

Actually, you have that confused with the Second Law of Teledynamics: In any closed-circuit televised medium, the quality level of entertainment tends toward thermal equilibrium or television entropy, in Neilson parlance "lowest common denominator" or absolute zero, passing through a state of superposition termed the JumpShark.


Which means it evolved.
 
2012-04-25 08:52:36 PM

Infobahn: It seems to me all of the TBBT hate comes from people who think it happens to hit too close to home.


I hate simply because it's really, really, really not funny
 
2012-04-25 08:53:07 PM
Evolve = /= Change for the better.
 
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