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(LA Times)   Remember that 3.9 quake that hit California the other day that no one really worried about? Um, yeah, about that   (latimes.com) divider line 56
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2012-04-25 10:42:52 AM
It's still not news.
 
2012-04-25 12:13:10 PM
The little-known fault - called the San Joaquin Hills thrust - is similar to the fault that triggered the deadly Northridge quake in the San Fernando Valley 18 years ago.

I tried that move with the wife the other day. Damn near broke my hip.
 
2012-04-25 01:40:32 PM
What about it?
 
2012-04-25 01:50:52 PM
We felt it in my office in Newport Beach. It was just a single thump. The guy in the next office and I looked at each other like, "Earthquake, maybe? Nah." Felt like someone on the floor above us dropped something heavy.
 
2012-04-25 01:51:48 PM

Quasar: The little-known fault - called the San Joaquin Hills thrust - is similar to the fault that triggered the deadly Northridge quake in the San Fernando Valley 18 years ago.

I tried that move with the wife the other day. Damn near broke my hip.


Try the Madera strike-slip, you may have better results. Though you may need a good lawyer.
 
2012-04-25 01:56:25 PM
As a Californian, let me just say that anything below a 6.0 isn't even worthy of looking up from my monitor. A 6.0 would warrant a, "Hey, did you feel that quake today? Let's get sushi for lunch."
 
2012-04-25 01:58:57 PM

Honest Bender: As a Californian, let me just say that anything below a 6.0 isn't even worthy of looking up from my monitor. A 6.0 would warrant a, "Hey, did you feel that quake today? Let's get sushi for lunch."


Well, first it's "okay, is this just a little rumble or the first wave?"

Then it's condescension.
 
2012-04-25 02:00:55 PM
Unusually slow news day in So Cal.
 
2012-04-25 02:03:02 PM

bhcompy: Honest Bender: As a Californian, let me just say that anything below a 6.0 isn't even worthy of looking up from my monitor. A 6.0 would warrant a, "Hey, did you feel that quake today? Let's get sushi for lunch."

Well, first it's "okay, is this just a little rumble or the first wave?"

Then it's condescension.


The 5.0 earthquake on Easter Sunday in 2009 made the windows in my Uncles house shake. I was afraid they were going to shatter. A 6.0 would definitely be very noticeable, as it would on a magnitude of 1000x times that of a 5.0.
 
2012-04-25 02:03:46 PM
I fart stronger than that
 
2012-04-25 02:04:08 PM
Guy in the office next to mine just moved here from New York......He was freaked out and wondering why we all just kept doing what we were doing as if it was no big deal.
 
2012-04-25 02:04:21 PM
I thought all of California was at fault.
 
2012-04-25 02:06:01 PM
"O.C. quake was small, but it could make history"

Don't call it that
 
2012-04-25 02:06:33 PM
3.9 earthquake in SoCal = 1 inch of snow in Buffalo


/move along
 
2012-04-25 02:09:05 PM

Quasar: The little-known fault - called the San Joaquin Hills thrust - is similar to the fault that triggered the deadly Northridge quake in the San Fernando Valley 18 years ago.

I tried that move with the wife the other day. Damn near broke my hip.


I saw that in a movie once. Some things are best left to the professionals.
 
2012-04-25 02:10:48 PM
What quake?

/I sleep through 5's and I'm not even a native Californian.

A 3.9 would have us thinking "damn, that's a big ass truck", not "earthquake".
 
2012-04-25 02:14:29 PM
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/RIP
//They will never be forgotten.
 
2012-04-25 02:16:51 PM
It shook the 3rd floor where I was in Irvine pretty well. But yeah pretty mild compared to others really.
 
2012-04-25 02:19:51 PM

Yaxe:
The 5.0 earthquake on Easter Sunday in 2009 made the windows in my Uncles house shake. I was afraid they were going to shatter. A 6.0 would definitely be very noticeable, as it would on a magnitude of 1000x times that of a 5.0.


held your finger on the zero just a smidgen too long. The logarithmic scale is 10 times more for each increase in a full integer. A 6.0 is 10 times stronger than a 5.0

A 6.0 would be 1000 times stronger than a 3.0, however. Is that what you meant?
 
2012-04-25 02:21:19 PM

Quasar: The little-known fault - called the San Joaquin Hills thrust - is similar to the fault that triggered the deadly Northridge quake in the San Fernando Valley 18 years ago.

I tried that move with the wife the other day. Damn near broke my hip.


temblor? I hardly knew her!
 
2012-04-25 02:22:01 PM

Quasar: The little-known fault - called the San Joaquin Hills thrust - is similar to the fault that triggered the deadly Northridge quake in the San Fernando Valley 18 years ago.

I tried that move with the wife the other day. Damn near broke my hip.


Yeah, it's hard to get her into that face-down position, with a boob on each of your feet, while standing. The balance is tricky.
 
2012-04-25 02:24:24 PM

old_toole: I thought all of California was at fault.


Not really, just everything to the left of the San Andreas fault.
 
2012-04-25 02:26:57 PM
hammettman
Quasar: The little-known fault - called the San Joaquin Hills thrust - is similar to the fault that triggered the deadly Northridge quake in the San Fernando Valley 18 years ago.

I tried that move with the wife the other day. Damn near broke my hip.

Try the Madera strike-slip, you may have better results. Though you may need a good lawyer.


Try the New Madrid. It's deeper and may cause stuff to actually flow backwards. Also, the wife yells "Dios mio!" Much better than the Old Madrid.
 
2012-04-25 02:29:20 PM

Yaxe: The 5.0 earthquake on Easter Sunday in 2009 made the windows in my Uncles house shake.


Are you trying to refer to the 2010 Easter quake that hit 7.2?

Now that was a farkin' quake. It kept going like the Energizer bunny.
 
2012-04-25 02:29:35 PM
i just assume every inch of soil in Cali has a fault line under it.
 
2012-04-25 02:30:11 PM

Yaxe: bhcompy: Honest Bender: As a Californian, let me just say that anything below a 6.0 isn't even worthy of looking up from my monitor. A 6.0 would warrant a, "Hey, did you feel that quake today? Let's get sushi for lunch."

Well, first it's "okay, is this just a little rumble or the first wave?"

Then it's condescension.

The 5.0 earthquake on Easter Sunday in 2009 made the windows in my Uncles house shake. I was afraid they were going to shatter. A 6.0 would definitely be very noticeable, as it would on a magnitude of 1000x times that of a 5.0.


Us native Californians are all earthquake experts who will be the first to die in a real quake because we'll all be standing around evaluating the quake, asking "is this the big one?" while smart foreigners are busy taking all of the best cover spots.

That said, a 5 would get my attention. A 6 would have me looking for cover from anything that could fall--probably in a doorway or something. I don't recall ever being near the epicenter of a 7, so I don't know how I'd react. I'd probably look for actual cover.

A 3.9 on an undiscovered fault? I'd make sure I had some fresh food and water in a safe place. But I check that stuff periodically anyway.
 
2012-04-25 02:33:07 PM
That's great, it starts with an Earthquake.
 
2012-04-25 02:36:49 PM

danno_to_infinity: Yaxe:
The 5.0 earthquake on Easter Sunday in 2009 made the windows in my Uncles house shake. I was afraid they were going to shatter. A 6.0 would definitely be very noticeable, as it would on a magnitude of 1000x times that of a 5.0.

held your finger on the zero just a smidgen too long. The logarithmic scale is 10 times more for each increase in a full integer. A 6.0 is 10 times stronger than a 5.0

A 6.0 would be 1000 times stronger than a 3.0, however. Is that what you meant?


Not quite, one step on the scale actually represents 32 times as much energy (10^1.5), two steps is a 1000-fold increase. Going from 3.9 to 6.0 would be approximately a 1400-fold increase in energy released. 3.0 to 6.0 would be about a 31600-fold increase.
 
2012-04-25 02:38:00 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Us native Californians are all earthquake experts who will be the first to die in a real quake because we'll all be standing around evaluating the quake, asking "is this the big one?" while smart foreigners are busy taking all of the best cover spots.


Not really, because the "smart foreigners" are less likely to know which cover spots are actually safe. Note the recent earthquake on the east coast, where people were fleeing buildings and gathering in the streets--where they could have easily been hit by falling bricks had the earthquake been more powerful.
 
2012-04-25 02:38:15 PM
So how many people will move out of CA or be on vacation anywhere else just before Dec 21? The believers say it will be bad everywhere. But with the number of faults running through the area I think I would move out for a bit. Just in case.
 
2012-04-25 02:44:21 PM

JDAT: Guy in the office next to mine just moved here from New York......He was freaked out and wondering why we all just kept doing what we were doing as if it was no big deal.


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2012-04-25 02:45:14 PM
I'm still waiting for the New Madrid fault to let one fly. If the earthquake they had along that fault in 1811 were to happen today, there could be many thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of fatalities. And that fault is long overdue. FEMA said that an earthquake along that line could be "the highest economic losses due to a natural disaster in the United States."
 
2012-04-25 02:55:40 PM
Oh, this is the thread where Californians talk about how they're not started by earthquakes.

We get it.
 
2012-04-25 03:02:17 PM
I live in HB about 15 miles north of Laguna and I didn't feel it although some of my students said they felt it. I especially disappointed because I teach geology.
 
2012-04-25 03:08:49 PM

mynamebackwards: Oh, this is the thread where Californians talk about how they're not started by earthquakes.

We get it.


Yes, it is. But then we look at tornados and shiat our pants. And you're all like, "What, afraid of a little wind?".
 
2012-04-25 03:16:05 PM

superfudge73: I live in HB about 15 miles north of Laguna and I didn't feel it although some of my students said they felt it. I especially disappointed because I teach geology.


I work in Irvine near the El Toro Y and I felt it but a co-worker didn't. I think it was because I was sitting down and he was standing.
 
2012-04-25 03:33:25 PM

mynamebackwards: Oh, this is the thread where Californians talk about how they're not started by earthquakes.

We get it.


I was up at 4:30AM when the big Northridge quake happened and I can assure you it was very startling. I ran outside and saw what appeared to be green explosions at the marine base and water was slopping out of the gutter and the earth was rolling. The small ones don't bother me too much now, but I'd rather no earthquakes happened.

/csb
 
2012-04-25 03:34:20 PM

TyrannyOfThe3Squares: mynamebackwards: Oh, this is the thread where Californians talk about how they're not started by earthquakes.

We get it.

Yes, it is. But then we look at tornados and shiat our pants. And you're all like, "What, afraid of a little wind?".


upload.wikimedia.org

"It's not that the wind is blowin'..."
 
2012-04-25 03:35:29 PM

thamike: It's still not news.



Drew has a book, you might want to pick up a copy.

Read it too.
 
2012-04-25 04:03:21 PM
Meh. Orange people problems.
 
2012-04-25 04:08:38 PM
I work in San Clemente near Camp Pendleton. We got to play, "Are the Marines doing bombing drills or was that an earthquake?" I felt two jolts, nothing like the Easter quake when I thought the house was going to fall over.

/not Native
//still prefer the occasional shake to the occasional tornado
 
2012-04-25 04:13:46 PM

anfrind: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Us native Californians are all earthquake experts who will be the first to die in a real quake because we'll all be standing around evaluating the quake, asking "is this the big one?" while smart foreigners are busy taking all of the best cover spots.

Not really, because the "smart foreigners" are less likely to know which cover spots are actually safe. Note the recent earthquake on the east coast, where people were fleeing buildings and gathering in the streets--where they could have easily been hit by falling bricks had the earthquake been more powerful.



My aunt lives in a brick house Missouri near the New Madrid fault. I once asked her what she would do if an earthquake struck. Her response (of course): run outside.

I told her about falling bricks, etc. It occurred to me, during the course of that conversation, that the houses safest for tornados (e.g., brick homes) are probably the least safe in the event of an earthquake. Those old stick houses might wobble too much during a tornado, but they're not so inflexible that they snap into pieces when an earthquake strikes.
 
2012-04-25 04:15:23 PM

BigLuca: I'm still waiting for the New Madrid fault to let one fly. If the earthquake they had along that fault in 1811 were to happen today, there could be many thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of fatalities. And that fault is long overdue. FEMA said that an earthquake along that line could be "the highest economic losses due to a natural disaster in the United States."


Yup.
 
2012-04-25 04:17:57 PM

TyrannyOfThe3Squares: mynamebackwards: Oh, this is the thread where Californians talk about how they're not started by earthquakes.

We get it.

Yes, it is. But then we look at tornados and shiat our pants. And you're all like, "What, afraid of a little wind?".


As someone who grew up in the Midwest and now lives in SoCal, let me just say I'd much prefer tornadoes to earthquakes. At least with tornadoes, there's some warning. Even if a siren doesn't sound, you can still tell that a tornado is imminent. There's no such warning for an earthquake.
 
2012-04-25 04:29:36 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Yaxe: bhcompy: Honest Bender: As a Californian, let me just say that anything below a 6.0 isn't even worthy of looking up from my monitor. A 6.0 would warrant a, "Hey, did you feel that quake today? Let's get sushi for lunch."

Well, first it's "okay, is this just a little rumble or the first wave?"

Then it's condescension.

The 5.0 earthquake on Easter Sunday in 2009 made the windows in my Uncles house shake. I was afraid they were going to shatter. A 6.0 would definitely be very noticeable, as it would on a magnitude of 1000x times that of a 5.0.

Us native Californians are all earthquake experts who will be the first to die in a real quake because we'll all be standing around evaluating the quake, asking "is this the big one?" while smart foreigners are busy taking all of the best cover spots.

That said, a 5 would get my attention. A 6 would have me looking for cover from anything that could fall--probably in a doorway or something. I don't recall ever being near the epicenter of a 7, so I don't know how I'd react. I'd probably look for actual cover.

A 3.9 on an undiscovered fault? I'd make sure I had some fresh food and water in a safe place. But I check that stuff periodically anyway.


You really don't want to be under a doorway in an earthquake. It is likely to do a 'scissor' effect and undo you in two. The safest places?

Next to (not under) your bed (just roll off)
Ditto for the couch
Heavy file cabinets
NEVER under a table

In short, anything that will give you an air space when the place crashes down upon you

/be safe out there
 
2012-04-25 04:40:35 PM
So, I read the article a couple of times, and found no words about how it could make history (except for within the title.)
What is so extraordinary about this fault?

And BaronVonZipper is right. Next to a wall is better than in a doorway - if a ceiling collapses, it generally creates a lean-to against a wall, maintaining a small safe place in which to crouch.
 
2012-04-25 04:50:47 PM

anfrind: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Us native Californians are all earthquake experts who will be the first to die in a real quake because we'll all be standing around evaluating the quake, asking "is this the big one?" while smart foreigners are busy taking all of the best cover spots.

Not really, because the "smart foreigners" are less likely to know which cover spots are actually safe. Note the recent earthquake on the east coast, where people were fleeing buildings and gathering in the streets--where they could have easily been hit by falling bricks had the earthquake been more powerful.


I know anecdotes are not data, but my anecdotes tell me otherwise.

People on the East Coast know as much about how to behave during an earthquake as I do about preparing for hurricanes: not much. And why should they? Earthquakes are not common over there.

However, the people I know who've come to CA from other parts of the country seemed to be aware of what to do. Some of them have researched the hell out of the topic because they're terrified of them. And during the small quakes, it's funny to watch them dive for cover under tables while all of the natives look at each other and shrug.

But if there were a big (7+) quake, it wouldn't be so funny. We'd all be diving for the same cover...only they'd have a slight head start on me :-)

That's my opinion, anyway. YMMV
 
2012-04-25 05:09:38 PM
ooooo whatcha sayyyyy.
 
2012-04-25 05:09:57 PM

baronvonzipper: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Yaxe: bhcompy: Honest Bender: As a Californian, let me just say that anything below a 6.0 isn't even worthy of looking up from my monitor. A 6.0 would warrant a, "Hey, did you feel that quake today? Let's get sushi for lunch."

Well, first it's "okay, is this just a little rumble or the first wave?"

Then it's condescension.

The 5.0 earthquake on Easter Sunday in 2009 made the windows in my Uncles house shake. I was afraid they were going to shatter. A 6.0 would definitely be very noticeable, as it would on a magnitude of 1000x times that of a 5.0.

Us native Californians are all earthquake experts who will be the first to die in a real quake because we'll all be standing around evaluating the quake, asking "is this the big one?" while smart foreigners are busy taking all of the best cover spots.

That said, a 5 would get my attention. A 6 would have me looking for cover from anything that could fall--probably in a doorway or something. I don't recall ever being near the epicenter of a 7, so I don't know how I'd react. I'd probably look for actual cover.

A 3.9 on an undiscovered fault? I'd make sure I had some fresh food and water in a safe place. But I check that stuff periodically anyway.

You really don't want to be under a doorway in an earthquake. It is likely to do a 'scissor' effect and undo you in two. The safest places?

Next to (not under) your bed (just roll off)
Ditto for the couch
Heavy file cabinets
NEVER under a table

In short, anything that will give you an air space when the place crashes down upon you

/be safe out there


A 6.0 earthquake is unlikely to cause enough damage to make even a bad doorway unsafe (many interior doorways and pretty much any doorway in an office building, which are just cutouts in drywall). You just want to get away from stuff that could fall on you, like ceiling lights, stuff on shelves, etc.

If you want to hide next to a heavy filing cabinet, or anything else that isn't bolted down so it can't fall over, go for it. You won't have much competition for that area. Just because you can't knock it over, don't think the earth can't.

http://www.ready.gov/earthquakes
 
2012-04-25 05:55:42 PM

PowerSlacker: 3.9 earthquake in SoCal = 1 inch of snow in Buffalo


/move along


Which in turn are equivalent to an EF0 tornado in Oklahoma City and a tropical depression in Miami.

/moves along
 
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