Aarontology: Settle down hillbillies, you'll be getting your government welfare farm check soon enough.

As one of those hillbillies, I actually agree with banning kids from those sights listed. As far as transporting farm raw materials, I think that might be a bit broad.

Uhm, small farmers do not get those welfare checks.

Aarontology: brerrabbit: As one of those hillbillies, I actually agree with banning kids from those sights listed. As far as transporting farm raw materials, I think that might be a bit broad.

Some of them seem more sensible than others, I agree. But eliminating the 4-H and FFA training seems pointless. Those are good programs for kids who have an interest in agriculture.

Even DC/Yahoo couldn't come out and say "eliminate" or "ban". What they said was "revoke...approval". So 4-H and FFA are free to continue doing whatever they want, they just aren't able to provide government backed certification. If you want that you have to go through a program actually certified by the government.

Having grown up on a farm operating machinery that was definitely not age appropriate I can see both side of the issue. Personally I worked in great fear of having a limb ripped off and so learned to be very careful. Not everyone learns this sort of lesson the easy way. One neighbor's son fell off a wagon and was run over earning him a colostomy bag while in grade school. A good friend of mine couldn't seem to learn to watch where he put his hands and lost fingers in several separate incidents. Modern farming is done with powerful machines and the risk of life and limb is definitely real.

The important thing to remember here is that this is a DC/Yahoo article and so we can only assume that whatever they are saying is probably not actually true.

Why are these kids allowed to work all day on farms anyway? Shouldn't they be in school?

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Why are these kids allowed to work all day on farms anyway? Shouldn't they be in school?

You snob!

GAT_00: "Daily Caller"

*closes link*

It's getting to the point where there's no reason to click any Yahoo link anymore.

There's a noticeable correlation between Yahoo circling the drain and its increase in right wing troll bait articles.

As amended, the rules exempt farmers' direct children, so I fail to see the issue here.

Besides, look at what the rule covers:

"The proposal would strengthen current child labor regulations prohibiting agricultural work with animals and in pesticide handling, timber operations, manure pits and storage bins. It would prohibit farmworkers under age 16 from participating in the cultivation, harvesting and curing of tobacco. And it would prohibit youth in both agricultural and nonagricultural employment from using electronic, including communication, devices while operating power-driven equipment."

and

"Prohibited places of employment would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions."


These are dangerous places for even a experienced adult to be. Teens have no business being in any of those locations.

Executive summary for those who dnr:

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Grand_Moff_Joseph: These are dangerous places for even a experienced adult to be. Teens have no business being in any of those locations.

Bullshiat.

Headso: Big ag says thanks! Making the small family farm even less profitable is great!

If your business can't get by without exploiting child labor perhaps you have a larger problem than "Big ag".

Hell, the rules don't even "ban" kids from working, as trollmitter states. It only reduces the total hours they can work each day.

Meanwhile, while farmers are yelling at TV cameras about not being able to employ kids all day, Monsanto is running them all out of business.

EWreckedSean: James!: Headso: Big ag says thanks! Making the small family farm even less profitable is great!

If your business can't get by without exploiting child labor perhaps you have a larger problem than "Big ag".

So now a family farm is exploiting child labor?

If it isn't then there shouldn't be any problems with these new rules.

EWreckedSean: Grand_Moff_Joseph: As amended, the rules exempt farmers' direct children, so I fail to see the issue here.

Besides, look at what the rule covers:

"The proposal would strengthen current child labor regulations prohibiting agricultural work with animals and in pesticide handling, timber operations, manure pits and storage bins. It would prohibit farmworkers under age 16 from participating in the cultivation, harvesting and curing of tobacco. And it would prohibit youth in both agricultural and nonagricultural employment from using electronic, including communication, devices while operating power-driven equipment."

and

"Prohibited places of employment would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions."


These are dangerous places for even a experienced adult to be. Teens have no business being in any of those locations.

Nanny state much? You want to keep a teenager out of a grain elevator is one thing, but feed lots, stock yards, cattle auctions. Oh no, you are much too young to feed the pigs! Give me a break.

I know right? I mean, minors ONLY make up about half of all farm task related deaths each year, so it's not like we need to do anything about that.

DozeNutz: I didn't bother to read TFA, and it shows...

DozeNutz: Literally banning farmers from having their kids work on the farm.

Nope, look again.

TomMalory: I guess my point is that people are dismissing how much this could help save lives because they believe the BS from the right about "big gubmint." Yes, it is truly insidious of those nasty Democrats to try and keep children safe.

I'm thinking that we ban kids from riding bikes, skates, scooters, in cars, wrap them in rubber...wait. Better yet, let's lock them in closets and never let them go outside. It's the only way to be sure.

EWreckedSean: James!: Headso: Big ag says thanks! Making the small family farm even less profitable is great!

If your business can't get by without exploiting child labor perhaps you have a larger problem than "Big ag".

So now a family farm is exploiting child labor?

YOUR OWN CHILDREN ARE EXEMPT FROM THE RULE. SO NO.

I don't blame you, though, it IS easier to get mad at shiat when you ignore half of it.

DozeNutz: Why does the Obama admin put out shiat like this? Literally banning farmers from having their kids work on the farm.

But that's 'literally' not what's happening.

DozeNutz: Why does the Obama admin put out shiat like this? Literally banning farmers from having their kids work on the farm. Its hard enough for small farms to make it, but this will just make it harder. Wouldn't this encourage the farmer to hire people, making it more expensive for the farmer, thus increasing prices? I bet they would hire illegal immigrants to do the work too.

I thought this was a free country...

How can you call for the killing and eating of left handed people? I thought we were living in a free country and here you are literally calling for a state sponsored barbeque of people who just happen to favor their left hand over a right.

Truly you are history's greatest monster!

Dancin_In_Anson: I'm thinking that we ban kids from riding bikes, skates, scooters, in cars, wrap them in rubber...wait. Better yet, let's lock them in closets and never let them go outside. It's the only way to be sure.

Those damn federals are making it ILLEGAL for me to pay an untrained neighbor kid to drive a hay baler around without supervision? WHY NOT JUST BAN ALL-AMERICAN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL THEN, THAT'S THE SAME GOL-DURN THING

Headso: James!: Headso: Big ag says thanks! Making the small family farm even less profitable is great!

If your business can't get by without exploiting child labor perhaps you have a larger problem than "Big ag".

children working a family farm goes back as far as farming, "exploiting" is a charged word.

No, son. You lost your arm because of tradition! Doesn't that make it all better?

DozeNutz: James!: DozeNutz: Literally banning farmers from having their kids work on the farm.

Nope, look again.

Ok, semantics. Banning them from working on parts of the farm... Better now? Its still stupid, and I'm sure you think its dumb too. But you wouldn't let partisan politics get in the way of that now would you?

Still nope, look again.