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(News.com.au)   After 70 years, Germany to publish new edition of 'Mein Kampf'. Tentative working title: Hitler: Göing Roguenfrauzen   (news.com.au) divider line 60
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2012-04-25 11:22:00 AM
+1

I LOL'd
 
2012-04-25 11:29:43 AM
It's nothing to raise a Führer about.
 
2012-04-25 11:36:22 AM
www.freewebs.com
 
2012-04-25 11:41:26 AM
Hitler: GöingGoering Roguenfrauzen

FTFY
 
2012-04-25 11:56:27 AM

Lord Dimwit: Hitler: GöingGoering Roguenfrauzen

FTFY


Dammit! Came to say this, always late.
 
2012-04-25 11:58:57 AM

Sgt Oddball: Lord Dimwit: Hitler: GöingGoering Roguenfrauzen

FTFY

Dammit! Came to say this, always late.


Doesn't matter, had lol.
 
2012-04-25 12:06:15 PM
Mein Kampf 2 - Elektrisch Tanzparteiauftreten
 
2012-04-25 12:26:05 PM
I hope they try to sell it on eBay.
 
2012-04-25 12:30:24 PM

MugzyBrown: Mein Kampf 2 - Elektrisch Tanzparteiauftreten


Is that really the German for Electric Boogaloo -- wait, don't answer that, I love it just the way it is!
 
2012-04-25 12:31:09 PM
I was wondering what they were going to do about that.
I fully expected them to pull a Mickey Mouse and simply extend copyright for authors another 20-30 years to make it someone else's problem.
 
2012-04-25 12:32:21 PM
Nazism: It's Totally My Bag, Baby!
 
2012-04-25 12:38:09 PM
Don't they still have laws prohibiting any kind of Nazi-friendly media? I would think this would fall under that category.
 
2012-04-25 12:39:31 PM

Snapper Carr: Don't they still have laws prohibiting any kind of Nazi-friendly media? I would think this would fall under that category.


Hence my post. The headsplosions would be epic.
 
2012-04-25 12:49:47 PM
I did nazi this coming.
 
2012-04-25 12:51:08 PM

Snapper Carr: Don't they still have laws prohibiting any kind of Nazi-friendly media? I would think this would fall under that category.


It's amazing what one learns when one RTFA:

The new versions - which could include one aimed at schools and an audiobook - would include commentaries debunking Hitler's arguments and notes on "the global catastrophe that this dangerous way of thinking led to," Soder added.
 
2012-04-25 12:58:02 PM
I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.
 
2012-04-25 12:59:49 PM

meanmutton: It's amazing what one learns when one RTFA:

The new versions - which could include one aimed at schools and an audiobook - would include commentaries debunking Hitler's arguments and notes on "the global catastrophe that this dangerous way of thinking led to," Soder added.


Which is a good idea and all but doesn't actually address my point - Patterns of Force (The Star Trek "Nazi" episode) was banned in Germany for three decades and its, if anything, extremely critical of Nazism but the law would do nothing to stop the publication of a book that's the basis of the tenets of the ideology?
 
2012-04-25 01:04:39 PM
Are you sure it wasn't "Träume von meinem Vaterland?"
 
2012-04-25 01:18:47 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.


Check out a book called Fatherland by Robert Harris
 
2012-04-25 01:31:01 PM
Snapper Carr
Don't they still have laws prohibiting any kind of Nazi-friendly media? I would think this would fall under that category.


Depends on what you mean by "this"; the annotated version mentioned in TFA certainly not because there are several exceptions in that law, for example for artistic or educational purposes (that's also the reason why people claiming that Germany bans Nazi stuff in an attempt to hide its past are idiots who don't know what they're talking about).

An uncommented new reprint will very likely fall under that category, though.

Interestingly enough, old pre-1945 copies might not fall under those laws (depending a bit on the context / their presentation when sold) because those laws are actually about protecting the constitution from organizations whose aim it is to abolish the constitution or, more literally, who aim to overthrow "the free democratic basic order".
And apparently there was a verdict where the court found that those laws can't apply to the original Nazi copies because the current constitution of Germany didn't exist yet when those copies were printed; so antique book stores selling those copies are in the clear as long as they as put them next to a box of "We need another Hitler" buttons or put them in protective sleeves stating "I hate foreigners".
 
2012-04-25 01:34:07 PM
as long as they as put them
as long as they as DO NOT put them

FTFM, cut the wrong word(s)
 
2012-04-25 01:46:20 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.


Not sure if serious. There is probably hundreds of altered history books about this scenario.
 
2012-04-25 01:53:46 PM

Im_Gumby: Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.

Check out a book called Fatherland by Robert Harris


Or In The Presence of Mine Enemies, by Harry Turtledove.

Or The Man in the High Castle, by Philip K. Dick.
 
2012-04-25 02:04:08 PM
Snapper Carr
Which is a good idea and all but doesn't actually address my point - Patterns of Force (The Star Trek "Nazi" episode) was banned in Germany for three decades and its, if anything, extremely critical of Nazism but the law would do nothing to stop the publication of a book that's the basis of the tenets of the ideology?

Are you sure that episode was actually "banned"?
I think it's more likely that back in the 70s someone at one of the only two available TV stations/organizations just decided not to dub/air it because the episode might have caused more trouble than it was worth - I mean, just because you think it's probably legal doesn't mean it wouldn't have created a shiatstorm or resulted in a lawsuit.
And when the first commercial TV stations started in Germany in the late 80s and one picked the series up for a rerun, I doubt that a not-yet-rich, not-yet-producing-anything-themselves , still small commercial station would've spent the money to round up the original voice actors to dub one missing episode if it still has dozens of other episodes it can air. Might have made more sense later for someone trying to sell VHS/DVDs.
 
2012-04-25 02:12:29 PM
After I pick up my copy, I'm going to a camp to concentrate on reading it.
 
2012-04-25 03:03:59 PM
Hitler 2: HEIFENMUNCHENFRAUZENGLOCKENGLIEBENHOERSTEINFRUNPHENWHORLEINDRAUZEN!
 
2012-04-25 03:22:15 PM
Didn't even have to ctrl-f for it.
 
2012-04-25 03:43:16 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.


With or without Uberman?
 
2012-04-25 05:06:31 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.


Europe and Russia would be a white man's paradise with out all those nasty Jews, blacks, gypsies, homosexuals, Poles, muslins, and French to dirty up the country side.
 
2012-04-25 05:15:36 PM
durable intellectual currency

so many other propositions have been discarded

Criminal capitalism

Consent of the governed

sovereignity of man

Marx has been reduced to his authoritarianism by the state and the wholesale theft of minority productivity

social justice means you get the same shekel whether you produce or not, weak sauce

no need to starve the zoo, occasionally they will prove to amuse

no reason to elevate, lacking the capability, first primate captaining the ship of state

wot
 
2012-04-25 05:25:30 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.


29.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-04-25 06:44:25 PM

Snapper Carr: Don't they still have laws prohibiting any kind of Nazi-friendly media? I would think this would fall under that category.


prairiemama.com
You know how the media are. They wait for a mistake, and that's all you are. It happened to Hitler. No one ever talks about his paintings.
 
2012-04-25 06:44:45 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.


Funny you asked that. I always wondered what life would be like if the South succeeded(?) from the and the North did nothing about it. What would the border be like? Would it be a North/South Korea situation DMZ?
 
2012-04-25 06:51:03 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.

Not sure if srs.

Well how big of a win, like as in took Britain and Russia, or like as in whole world?
 
2012-04-25 07:24:44 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.


You'd be sent to a camp to learn about proper use of the apostrophe. ;-)

/"Did I say death camp? I meant HAPPY CAMP!"
 
2012-04-25 07:32:03 PM

McManus_brothers: Im_Gumby: Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.

Check out a book called Fatherland by Robert Harris

Or In The Presence of Mine Enemies, by Harry Turtledove.

Or The Man in the High Castle, by Philip K. Dick.


Is In the Presence of Mine Enemies a good Turtledove book to start with?

I've been meaning to read him for years (I like alt history and - CSB alert - his daughter introduced me to my husband) but there's so many to choose from. I know if I pick up the 'wrong' book first I probably wouldn't read another. My reading list is already pretty long as is.

I'd like to start with one of the WWII books though. I'm more into that than the Civil War.
 
2012-04-25 07:38:31 PM
K.B.O. Winston
Fark_Guy_Rob:
I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.

You'd be sent to a camp to learn about proper use of the apostrophe. ;-)


You's bet's

/ German doesn't even have the 's-genitive as an excuse
 
2012-04-25 07:40:10 PM

K.B.O. Winston: Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.

You'd be sent to a camp to learn about proper use of the apostrophe. ;-)

/"Did I say death camp? I meant HAPPY CAMP!"


Sent to a re-education camp, his abuse of the apostrophe, and the devastating punishment given for such abuse, led to his abused semi-colon.
 
2012-04-25 07:48:09 PM

Snapper Carr: Don't they still have laws prohibiting any kind of Nazi-friendly media? I would think this would fall under that category.


They have laws against hate speech and that includes displaying Nazi insignia.

Interestingly, Mein Kampf was never banned; Hitler died intestate (as did Eva Braun), and the state of Bavaria ended up as his heir. They've prevented the book from being published up until now just by protecting the copyright on the book.

They're publishing it now because it's about to fall out of copyright. By publishing an edition which includes new material, they will be able to re-copyright the work. By doing this they're hoping to prevent other publishers from issuing it.
 
2012-04-25 08:03:28 PM

K.B.O. Winston: McManus_brothers: Im_Gumby: Fark_Guy_Rob: I wonder what life would be like today if the Nazi's had won WWII.

Check out a book called Fatherland by Robert Harris

Or In The Presence of Mine Enemies, by Harry Turtledove.

Or The Man in the High Castle, by Philip K. Dick.

Is In the Presence of Mine Enemies a good Turtledove book to start with?

I've been meaning to read him for years (I like alt history and - CSB alert - his daughter introduced me to my husband) but there's so many to choose from. I know if I pick up the 'wrong' book first I probably wouldn't read another. My reading list is already pretty long as is.

I'd like to start with one of the WWII books though. I'm more into that than the Civil War.


It's a stand-alone book, so I guess it's as good a place as any to start; no back story or characters from previous novels to remember. And it's a pretty good tale to boot.

It's not about WWII, but Ruled Britannia is a neat concept too, about a successful Spanish Armada and William Shakespeare's experiences in Spanish-ruled England.

And that is an extremely CSS (Cool Story, Sis) about you and your husband.
 
2012-04-25 08:06:00 PM
I tried to read it in college. I found it to be poorly written. Hitler changes subjects mid paragraph, lots of ranting. I'm not sure what I expected, but I couldn't finish reading it because of its style. Maybe it's better in German.
 
2012-04-25 08:16:23 PM

stuhayes2010: I tried to read it in college. I found it to be poorly written. Hitler changes subjects mid paragraph, lots of ranting. I'm not sure what I expected, but I couldn't finish reading it because of its style. Maybe it's better in German.


I've only read it in German and it was horribly written as well.
 
2012-04-25 08:16:49 PM
Dwight_Yeast
They have laws against hate speech and that includes displaying Nazi insignia.


Those are actually two different laws (§86 and §130 StGB), though both might apply in the case of "Mein Kampf" and lots of Nazi stuff in general:
86 is about using symbols of and distributing materials promoting organizations that have been declared as unconstitutional, 130 is about hate speech. Nazi propaganda often features both.
 
2012-04-25 08:50:31 PM
Remember the first edition! --Charlie Lynton

/should not be obscure with a couple of mentions to the book already in the thread.
 
2012-04-25 08:54:52 PM
Releasing a critically annotated edition in order to extend the copyright and head off neo-nazi public domain printing is pretty clever.

There's a blacked out paperback edition in the USA I carry occasionally and immediately resell.

When people ask me "What kind of books to you sell?" I reply "Everything from Bibles to Mein Kampf" which just goes over the heads of the folks who ask that. I sell anything I can make a profit on, no matter how much I might despise them.

/Made $40 selling anti-vaxer DVD today.
//At least I'm not working for a DoD contractor.
 
2012-04-25 09:17:46 PM
wildcardjack
Releasing a critically annotated edition in order to extend the copyright


I don't think copyright works that way.
The annotated version will be copyrighted again for decades, but that won't affect the copyright of the original text itself.
 
2012-04-25 09:19:27 PM
You know who else published a book called 'Mein Kampf'?
 
2012-04-25 09:54:58 PM
www.wowpedia.org

/unavailable for comment
 
2012-04-25 10:17:44 PM

Snapper Carr: Which is a good idea and all but doesn't actually address my point - Patterns of Force (The Star Trek "Nazi" episode) was banned in Germany for three decades and its, if anything, extremely critical of Nazism but the law would do nothing to stop the publication of a book that's the basis of the tenets of the ideology?


Yeah, but most of the stars of Star Trek were Jews. You think Germans are going to tolerate Jewish actors criticizing nazis?
 
2012-04-25 11:16:42 PM
Stupid puns about one of the greatest men of the 20th century. Stay classy Fark.
 
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