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(Chronicle Herald)   News: Man fights with medical insurance over the bill for his hysterectomy. Fark: A Canadian man...wait, what?   (thechronicleherald.ca) divider line 115
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2012-04-25 12:12:47 PM
What's so weird about him being Canadian?
 
2012-04-25 12:13:34 PM
Things are getting weird.
 
2012-04-25 12:13:38 PM
What's so farky about that? Men get hysterectomies all the time. It's called a divorce.
 
2012-04-25 12:13:57 PM
Difficulty: Trannie
 
2012-04-25 12:16:28 PM
He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women. The difference is that someone at the hospital or the province made the decision that he was doing as part of his transition.

Sounds like he's got a pretty good case.
 
2012-04-25 12:18:34 PM
coont4: What's so weird about him being Canadian?

Probably a "paying for medical care in Canada?!?!" thing. Since there was an alternative treatment that didn't involve surgery it was deemed "non-essential." Elective non-minor surgery isn't covered by provincial health care typically.
 
2012-04-25 12:19:38 PM
JMacPA: He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women. The difference is that someone at the hospital or the province made the decision that he was doing as part of his transition.

Sounds like he's got a pretty good case.


Also a probable explanation too. It's Nova Scotia, which is basically Third World.
 
2012-04-25 12:20:27 PM
$3400 for an elective major operation? My emergency colostomy cost me $45K and without it i would have been dead in hours. I'm moving to Canada. fark this place!
 
2012-04-25 12:20:31 PM
See, this wouldn't happen with Obamacare. That's cause this benefits their gay, socialized agenda.
 
2012-04-25 12:20:42 PM
$3,400 wow.

My wife's was $39,000 and she was in the hospital 32 hours.
 
GBB
2012-04-25 12:21:26 PM
She looks hideous.
 
2012-04-25 12:21:29 PM
Huh. Here I was expecting outrage, and instead, I get a straightforward case of a trans guy who can and will prove that his hysterectomy was medically necessary. I guess I'll open up the politics tab so this popcorn I'm popping up doesn't go to waste.

/seriously, though, only $3400 for a hysterectomy?
//that's what I paid for a broken foot
///and I have insurance!
 
2012-04-25 12:21:40 PM
I don't understand how this is a medically necessary surgery.
 
2012-04-25 12:22:23 PM
FTFH: News: Man fights with medical insurance over the bill for his hysterectomy histerectomy.

/FTFY.
 
2012-04-25 12:22:54 PM
$3400 for a hysterectomy. In the US, that would be well over $10k.
 
GBB
2012-04-25 12:22:59 PM
cletusnbrandine: $3400 for an elective major operation? My emergency colostomy cost me $45K and without it i would have been dead in hours. I'm moving to Canada. fark this place!

Why move to Canada? Oklahoma City has rent for $40 and electrics for $14 a month!!!
Link
 
2012-04-25 12:23:11 PM
Gunny Walker: See, this wouldn't happen with Obamacare. That's cause this benefits their gay, socialized agenda.

Unless you own a gun, correct.
 
2012-04-25 12:23:31 PM
Why do greenlit trans threads only happen on the days I really need to concentrate on work?
 
2012-04-25 12:23:46 PM
SultanofSchwing: coont4: What's so weird about him being Canadian?

Probably a "paying for medical care in Canada?!?!" thing. Since there was an alternative treatment that didn't involve surgery it was deemed "non-essential." Elective non-minor surgery isn't covered by provincial health care typically.


FTFA Dumke said the pathology report, which showed bilateral fallopian tube congestion, endometrial polyps and ovarian cysts, among other medical problems, confirmed the diagnosis, recommendation and reason for the surgery to be covered.

I don't think that any medication is going to solve all that. Plus a familial history of same. Looks like surgery was the best choice.
 
2012-04-25 12:24:00 PM
cletusnbrandine: $3400 for an elective major operation? My emergency colostomy cost me $45K and without it i would have been dead in hours. I'm moving to Canada. fark this place!

That's what we've been trying to tell you guys... :)
 
2012-04-25 12:24:27 PM
JMacPA: He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women. The difference is that someone at the hospital or the province made the decision that he was doing as part of his transition.

Sounds like he's got a pretty good case.


Yep. When his doctor is recommending a medical procedure and saying it's the only option, it's pretty outrageous for his insurance to refuse to pay.
 
2012-04-25 12:26:02 PM
StaleCoffee: I don't understand how this is a medically necessary surgery.

He was suffering major pain that he should not be having, and was at risk of cancer and other issues that could kill him. The two methods of dealing with this are birth control pills (temporary) and surgery. BC Pills were not going to work at all, since he was taking meds to suppress his existing hormones. Surgery would deal with it permanently, and if it only cost $3400 it would be cheaper in the long run anyway.
 
2012-04-25 12:26:45 PM
Was it Sidney Crosby?
 
2012-04-25 12:27:31 PM
Welcome to Obama's canada!

Or something.
 
2012-04-25 12:27:54 PM
SultanofSchwing: Since there was an alternative treatment that didn't involve surgery it was deemed "non-essential.

From TFA: "MacDonald said [the endocrinologist] suggested he take birth-control pills, but then discounted that avenue because he had been on testosterone therapy for more than a year.

Last I checked, if you can't get a prescription for something, it doesn't really count as a potential alternative treatment.
 
2012-04-25 12:28:29 PM
I have a friend who suffered a seizure recently and as a result was hospitalized for 4 days as a result. No major surgery, just hospitalization.

The bill came to $81,000.
 
2012-04-25 12:30:30 PM
farkityfarker: I have a friend who suffered a seizure recently and as a result was hospitalized for 4 days as a result. No major surgery, just hospitalization.

The bill came to $81,000.


Yeesh. My wife was in for a week a few years ago and that was only $45k. Thank god for our insurance.
 
2012-04-25 12:31:08 PM
JMacPA: He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women.

[citation needed]

Millions of women in their early 20s who have been on testosterone therapy? I'd be livid if I was a Canadian having to pay for this biatch's elective surgery.
 
2012-04-25 12:31:34 PM
Bermuda59: Was it Sidney Crosby?

You win the comment contest!
 
2012-04-25 12:32:52 PM
=DRTFA=

Tranny?

=RTFA=

Tranny.
 
2012-04-25 12:33:09 PM
walkerhound: JMacPA: He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women.

[citation needed]

Millions of women in their early 20s who have been on testosterone therapy? I'd be livid if I was a Canadian having to pay for this biatch's elective surgery.


You wouldn't have been paying for his elective surgery. He paid it himself, through taxes.
 
2012-04-25 12:34:12 PM
Theaetetus: SultanofSchwing: Since there was an alternative treatment that didn't involve surgery it was deemed "non-essential.

From TFA: "MacDonald said [the endocrinologist] suggested he take birth-control pills, but then discounted that avenue because he had been on testosterone therapy for more than a year.

Last I checked, if you can't get a prescription for something, it doesn't really count as a potential alternative treatment.


Except you're mixing the testosterone therapy as part of a sexual reassignment with the real pain of having your half withered mangina trying to burst out of you. But you don't need to respond as if I'm kicking your dog, I'm not actually against the dude(ette) getting their way.
 
2012-04-25 12:36:50 PM
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2012-04-25 12:37:00 PM
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2012-04-25 12:37:31 PM
SultanofSchwing: Theaetetus: SultanofSchwing: Since there was an alternative treatment that didn't involve surgery it was deemed "non-essential.

From TFA: "MacDonald said [the endocrinologist] suggested he take birth-control pills, but then discounted that avenue because he had been on testosterone therapy for more than a year.

Last I checked, if you can't get a prescription for something, it doesn't really count as a potential alternative treatment.

Except you're mixing the testosterone therapy as part of a sexual reassignment with the real pain of having your half withered mangina trying to burst out of you. But you don't need to respond as if I'm kicking your dog, I'm not actually against the dude(ette) getting their way.


No, I'm not... My point was that if the doctor says "I'm not writing you a prescription for X," you can't really claim that X is a viable alternative treatment. It's not like he can get birth control pills over the counter.

If you're saying that it's a potential alternative because if he stopped, then maybe the doctor would write the prescription, that's just speculative. The doctor apparently never suggested doing such a thing, and, not being a medical professional, I wouldn't deign to suggest that the effects of being on testosterone for a year and then suddenly stopping and going on estrogen would have adverse effects.
 
2012-04-25 12:37:38 PM
walkerhound: JMacPA: He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women.

[citation needed]

Millions of women in their early 20s who have been on testosterone therapy? I'd be livid if I was a Canadian having to pay for this biatch's elective surgery.


I'm glad you aren't. He was in pain. There was only one way to fix it. It was fixed.
 
2012-04-25 12:37:40 PM
walkerhound: JMacPA: He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women.

[citation needed]

Millions of women in their early 20s who have been on testosterone therapy? I'd be livid if I was a Canadian having to pay for this biatch's elective surgery.


No, but it sounds as though he has PCOS or a similar condition, which millions of women (including, for some reason, the majority of my friends) have. The only reason my wife hasn't had a hysterectomy is that the local Catholic hospital refuses to do one on someone so young.
 
2012-04-25 12:39:52 PM
I wouldn't deign to suggest that the being on testosterone for a year and then suddenly stopping and going on estrogen wouldn't have adverse effects.

/ftfm
 
2012-04-25 12:40:43 PM
moralpanic: $3400 for a hysterectomy. In the US, that would be well over $10k.

It's much cheaper when you use a wolf to remove something.
 
2012-04-25 12:44:21 PM
cletusnbrandine: $3400 for an elective major operation? My emergency colostomy cost me $45K and without it i would have been dead in hours. I'm moving to Canada. fark this place!

Did anyone else first read this as "emergency lobotomy"?
 
2012-04-25 12:45:18 PM
lendog: $3,400 wow.

My wife's was $39,000 and she was in the hospital 32 hours.


You got ripped off.

Link
 
2012-04-25 12:46:12 PM
Testosterone was not medically required and should have been stopped in favour of the pill.

"Reassignment" sounds like some outside authority made the decision. It is a poor, if not false, choice of term.
 
2012-04-25 12:46:31 PM
GBB: She looks hideous.


Although as a he, he's actually quite handsome.
 
2012-04-25 12:48:27 PM
walkerhound: JMacPA: He got the surgery because it was medically necessary just like it is for millions of women.

[citation needed]

Millions of women in their early 20s who have been on testosterone therapy? I'd be livid if I was a Canadian having to pay for this biatch's elective surgery.


I'm really glad you're not Canadian. Please don't even visit. I prefer my country bigotry-free.

As for this man, I hope his complaint is successful. He had the only plausible medical treatment and it ought to be covered by the provincial health plan - and I hope it leads to a comprehensive review of how Nova Scotia's insurance deals handles trans health issues.

/SRS should really be covered as well considering it is a mode of treatment for a medical condition. But that's a separate issue.
 
2012-04-25 12:48:36 PM
animal900: Difficulty: Trannie

For the benefit of anyone who might not already know, yet might care if they did, "trannie" is one of those terms civilized people try to avoid when speaking about minority groups.
 
2012-04-25 12:49:15 PM
barefoot in the head: Testosterone was not medically required and should have been stopped in favour of the pill.

That's interesting... You're saying it would have no effect, being on testosterone for a year, then suddenly stopping and switching to elevated estrogen levels?

Can I ask where you got your GED in Medicine?
 
2012-04-25 12:49:32 PM
barefoot in the head: Testosterone was not medically required and should have been stopped in favour of the pill.

"Reassignment" sounds like some outside authority made the decision. It is a poor, if not false, choice of term.


If it's not required, why'd a judge tell the IRS that hormones were a valid medical expense?

Though I do agree with you about the term "reassignment". I prefer "repair".
 
2012-04-25 12:51:08 PM
barefoot in the head: Testosterone was not medically required and should have been stopped in favour of the pill.

"Reassignment" sounds like some outside authority made the decision. It is a poor, if not false, choice of term.


Wrong on both counts

Sex reassignment therapy
 
2012-04-25 12:51:55 PM
Aidan: I'm glad you aren't. He was in pain. There was only one way to fix it. It was fixed.

My officemate and thousands of other Coloradoans have been in so much pain they needed a medical marijuana card. Don't think any of them got a hysterectomy.

Pain is subjective and you can fake it for personal gain.
 
2012-04-25 12:52:17 PM
ciberido: animal900: Difficulty: Trannie

For the benefit of anyone who might not already know, yet might care if they did, "trannie" is one of those terms civilized people try to avoid when speaking about minority groups.


Co-sign.

Being respectful is not difficult.
 
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