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2012-04-25 10:16:16 AM
In no particular order---

It became very clear to me sitting out there today that every decision I've made in my entire life has been wrong. My life is the complete opposite of everything I want it to be. Every instinct I have, in every aspect of life, be it something to wear, something to eat - it's all been wrong.

Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it. It's too risky. Ya get a sense of it and then you look away.

Do you ever get down on your knees and thank God you know me and have access to my dementia?

Hi, my name is George, I'm unemployed and I live with my parents.

I don't trust the guy. I think he regifted, then he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super bowl sex romp.

But I don't wanna be a pirate!!!

Who wouldn't want This, That, and The Other?

Maybe the dingo ate your baby!!!
 
2012-04-25 10:16:25 AM
Nothing that you cant fix with a few hundred pounds of linear charges... but not too much.
 
2012-04-25 10:16:25 AM
Take that Tillikum, you piece of shiat! I wish they'd fill your tank with enough golf balls to choke your sorry ass. I won't rest until I've seen justice for Dawn and every whale dead! I'll fix my slice with your ragged ass! To hell with ye, savage beast!
 
2012-04-25 10:17:36 AM
I know a Marine Biologist who could have saved that whale.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-25 10:18:30 AM
You know it's the largest mammal on earth but as George says "they don't have to be."
 
2012-04-25 10:18:56 AM
I looked into the eye of the great fish.

Mammal.

Whatever.
 
2012-04-25 10:19:50 AM
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2012-04-25 10:20:26 AM

TNel: So this is what they call journalism now adays:

"Whale found dead in Wash. had swallowed golf ball" ....... "A gray whale found dead in Washington state's Puget Sound had been feeding on shrimp and also had some debris, including a golf ball, in its stomach, but scientists don't know what killed the animal."

If you honestly believe a golf ball that was swallowed by a whale killed it, just image how small a golf ball is and how big a whale is. They will not choke on it and they probably would have no problems passing it through their system either.


Came to express this outrage, but am leaving somewhat deflated.
 
2012-04-25 10:21:21 AM
Wasn't this headline posted in Yahoo comments?
 
2012-04-25 10:23:50 AM

TNel: Let me explain it for you. The article title implys that the golf ball killed the whale or was part of what killed the whale (why list it if it wasn't) then in the first paragraph they say they don't know what killed. They should have ommitted the golf ball part unless they would have made the Seinfield reference in the article like the subby did.


News articles tend to lead with headlines designed to provoke interest. Any of the debris in the whale's stomach may or may not have contributed to its demise; the golf ball was just the most interesting bit of debris because it's so far out of context. There's nothing inaccurate about the headline, and anyone interested in knowing more can read the rest of the piece.
 
2012-04-25 10:28:16 AM

bluehubcap: TNel: So this is what they call journalism now adays:

"Whale found dead in Wash. had swallowed golf ball" ....... "A gray whale found dead in Washington state's Puget Sound had been feeding on shrimp and also had some debris, including a golf ball, in its stomach, but scientists don't know what killed the animal."

If you honestly believe a golf ball that was swallowed by a whale killed it, just image how small a golf ball is and how big a whale is. They will not choke on it and they probably would have no problems passing it through their system either.

Came to express this outrage, but am leaving somewhat deflated.


FTFA: The stomach examination Monday found the shrimp, woody debris, algae, pieces of rope and plastic, the golf ball and some flat spongy material, NOAA Fisheries said.

The garbage was minimal and not the cause of death, which remains under investigation with tissue tests, spokesman Brian Gorman said.


Welp that's two anymore?
 
2012-04-25 10:38:06 AM

KiplingKat872: Mid_mo_mad_man: This just in twenty Japanese men carrying knives seen headed to Washington. But in seriousness was a American Indain nation allowed to hunt them in Washington.

I know the Makahs were fighting for it.


Fought and won I will add, not much to fight since they have it in writing all nice an legal. Heard from family friends on the rez a few years ago that they have already harvested a couple of them much to the disgust of peta and others. Lots of blubber, forgot what they used it for, didnt save/send me any :(

Great now i'm homesick.

Man I could tell you stories about that whole fight they were having and all the arguments the council was having in the background. Would make a hellova comedy. At one point I remember them talking about selling the whales they kill for like a few million to Japan or Norway, oh that would have been hilarious on cnn.
 
2012-04-25 10:43:23 AM
If only they could have got that whale to the moon, where it could have lived free!

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2012-04-25 10:45:58 AM

KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.


I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.
 
2012-04-25 10:47:17 AM

StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.


Sharks prey on whales.
 
2012-04-25 10:49:33 AM

Russ1642: StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.

Sharks prey on whales.


Orcas prey on baleen whales as well.
 
2012-04-25 10:52:03 AM

orclover: KiplingKat872: Mid_mo_mad_man: This just in twenty Japanese men carrying knives seen headed to Washington. But in seriousness was a American Indain nation allowed to hunt them in Washington.

I know the Makahs were fighting for it.

Fought and won I will add, not much to fight since they have it in writing all nice an legal. Heard from family friends on the rez a few years ago that they have already harvested a couple of them much to the disgust of peta and others. Lots of blubber, forgot what they used it for, didnt save/send me any :(

Great now i'm homesick.

Man I could tell you stories about that whole fight they were having and all the arguments the council was having in the background. Would make a hellova comedy. At one point I remember them talking about selling the whales they kill for like a few million to Japan or Norway, oh that would have been hilarious on cnn.


I knew it was part of some treaty. Thou all treaties should be invalid now. On the other hand if it ticks off PETA good.
 
2012-04-25 10:52:44 AM
I am so sorry that I wasn't there to help it, but as you can tell by my name, I was in the pool, I WAS IN THE POOL!
 
2012-04-25 10:53:05 AM

KiplingKat872: Russ1642: StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.

Sharks prey on whales.

Orcas prey on baleen whales as well.


Maybe their young, but what about a full grown humpback or blue whale?
 
2012-04-25 10:53:23 AM
What did they make of the bowl of petunias?
 
2012-04-25 10:54:54 AM

BigMax: What did they make of the bowl of petunias?


They made a nice arrangement next to the beach.
Again.
 
2012-04-25 10:56:51 AM
Maybe the golfball was contaminated with nuclear fallout from the Fukashima power plant.
 
2012-04-25 10:57:07 AM

StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.


See the above for predators.

Baleen whales do not travel in large groups like dolphins do. For instance it is very rare to two adult Blue Whales together as they are solitary. In fact because of their very low numbers spread out all over planet is a real concern among biologists that they will not be able to find each other frequently enough to breed enough to continue the species much longer.

There are groups of whales like Greys and Humpbacks that will gather in large numbers seasonally for breeding purposes, but then they break up and migrate in small groups. Baleen whales do not seem to have the complex relationships smaller cetaceans do.

Pod Numbers

Besides, if you could float around all day eating shrimp, would you want to make life more complex?
 
2012-04-25 10:57:13 AM
I was cackling like a maniac for a good 20 minutes.
 
2012-04-25 11:01:04 AM

StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: Russ1642: StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.

Sharks prey on whales.

Orcas prey on baleen whales as well.

Maybe their young, but what about a full grown humpback or blue whale?


That is a very rare, but the fact that they do go after the young (much like lions or wolves go after the young and old) means they the species does have natural predators.
 
2012-04-25 11:03:57 AM

KiplingKat872: StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.

See the above for predators.

Baleen whales do not travel in large groups like dolphins do. For instance it is very rare to two adult Blue Whales together as they are solitary. In fact because of their very low numbers spread out all over planet is a real concern among biologists that they will not be able to find each other frequently enough to breed enough to continue the species much longer.

There are groups of whales like Greys and Humpbacks that will gather in large numbers seasonally for breeding purposes, but then they break up and migrate in small groups. Baleen whales do not seem to have the complex relationships smaller cetaceans do.

Pod Numbers

Besides, if you could float around all day eating shrimp, would you want to make life more complex?


Maybe not, but it just seems like there could be a lot more going on in those giant craniums than we might suspect. Sure, they're not out making tools and undersea cities, but they don't need to either. I would even say they have reached an evolutionary apex -- once they get big enough they really don't have much to worry about, and they get food by essentially just swimming around with their mouths open.

/disclaimer: physicist, not a biologist
 
2012-04-25 11:06:07 AM

StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.


Not that I am saying that they could not possibly be smarter than we are. They well could.

However, the problem lies in how do we estimate the intelligence of an entirely different species? Even cross different cultures we have found that we can't standardize intelligence tests. Imagine trying to figure out the frame of reference to gauge the intelligence of an animal that speaks no known language?

It's challenge, and not one well funded.
 
2012-04-25 11:06:12 AM

StrangeQ: I would even say they have reached an evolutionary apex -- once they get big enough they really don't have much to worry about, and they get food by essentially just swimming around with their mouths open.


They've evolved into Texans?
 
2012-04-25 11:08:40 AM

StrangeQ:

Maybe not, but it just seems like there could be a lot more going on in those giant craniums than we might suspect. Sure, they're not out making tools and undersea cities, but they don't need to either. I would even say they have reached an evolutionary apex -- once they get big enough they really don't have much to worry about, and they get food by essentially just swimming around with their mouths open.

/disclaimer: physicist, not a biologist


Actually no. They work for it by herding the krill, fish, and such into densely packed groups.

Bubble Netting

But yes, they well could be highly intelligent.

Sadly, we may never know that for sure.
 
2012-04-25 11:11:24 AM

BurnShrike: StrangeQ: I would even say they have reached an evolutionary apex -- once they get big enough they really don't have much to worry about, and they get food by essentially just swimming around with their mouths open.

They've devolved into Texans?



ftfy
 
2012-04-25 11:23:15 AM
So I've been thinking a lot lately is there any show now that has the same level of greatness as Sienfield? How many other shows have the kind of following where almost everyone knows all of the episodes?
 
2012-04-25 11:28:20 AM

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is that Serena Williams?
 
2012-04-25 11:33:08 AM

TNel: So I've been thinking a lot lately is there any show now that has the same level of greatness as Sienfield? How many other shows have the kind of following where almost everyone knows all of the episodes?


West Wing?

Either way...both top 5 TV shows of all time IMO.

/Hellllllllllllllllloooooooo
//It wasn't a pick, it was a scratch
 
2012-04-25 11:36:21 AM
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Ball washer.


/Tit-lee-ist
 
2012-04-25 11:55:49 AM

KiplingKat872: Russ1642: StrangeQ: KiplingKat872: They eat massive amounts of small marine animals, shrimp, krill, etc. what amounts to a near liquid diet.

I've often wondered at the possibility that whales are actually smarter than us after all. They have no natural predators (other than whaling boats) and can achieve all of their subsistence by means of little more than "scoop and sift". It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.

Sharks prey on whales.

Orcas prey on baleen whales as well.


Casinos prey on whales
 
2012-04-25 12:03:32 PM
Mm-hm. Tough lie.
 
2012-04-25 12:07:35 PM
misleading headline is misleading
 
2012-04-25 12:23:36 PM
Go Into The Water!

Live there.
Die there.
 
2012-04-25 12:39:46 PM
FOUR!!!
media.avclub.com
 
2012-04-25 12:53:19 PM

StrangeQ: It just seems like they have a lot of extra time and energy that they could use for thinking or communicating with other members of their pod.


Like on some sort of undersea Fark?
 
2012-04-25 12:59:26 PM

Slaxl: Was it a Titleist?


How was that not the headline?
 
2012-04-25 01:35:40 PM
That entire episode just flashed through my head in an instant, and there was much rejoicing...

Thanks for the pick-me up Subbs, nice find!
 
2012-04-25 02:33:42 PM

TNel: So I've been thinking a lot lately is there any show now that has the same level of greatness as Sienfield? How many other shows have the kind of following where almost everyone knows all of the episodes?


The Andy Griffith Show? No matter how many times I see an episode of "Andy" or Seinfeld, I still laugh. I can't think of any other shows that have that effect on me. Seen it -- what else is on?
 
2012-04-25 02:38:53 PM
With the Japanese American Indians and other whaling cultures out there I'm wonder what whale tastes like
 
2012-04-25 02:44:09 PM

TNel: So I've been thinking a lot lately is there any show now that has the same level of greatness as Sienfield? How many other shows have the kind of following where almost everyone knows all of the episodes?


It's definitely a quotable show and has always been one of my favorites, but most people I know under 30 can't stand it.
 
2012-04-25 02:47:06 PM

Charlie Freak: TNel: So I've been thinking a lot lately is there any show now that has the same level of greatness as Sienfield? How many other shows have the kind of following where almost everyone knows all of the episodes?

It's definitely a quotable show and has always been one of my favorites, but most people I know under 30 can't stand it.



Sounds fair - I can't stand most people under thirty.
 
2012-04-25 02:58:46 PM

The water was cold: Charlie Freak: TNel: So I've been thinking a lot lately is there any show now that has the same level of greatness as Sienfield? How many other shows have the kind of following where almost everyone knows all of the episodes?

It's definitely a quotable show and has always been one of my favorites, but most people I know under 30 can't stand it.


Sounds fair - I can't stand most people under thirty.


And this.
 
2012-04-25 03:27:51 PM
It's always sad when a whale dies, and we see its carcass.

Don't they all die?
 
2012-04-25 03:51:16 PM
Kaka: I'm first. Link

They even got the goofball who decided to turn the stinking whale into a rancid blubbershower on tape. I wonder if they put it on his headstone: George Thornton-- decided to blow up a whale with a half ton of dynamite in 1970.
 
2012-04-25 04:01:34 PM

neversubmit: bluehubcap: TNel: So this is what they call journalism now adays:

"Whale found dead in Wash. had swallowed golf ball" ....... "A gray whale found dead in Washington state's Puget Sound had been feeding on shrimp and also had some debris, including a golf ball, in its stomach, but scientists don't know what killed the animal."

If you honestly believe a golf ball that was swallowed by a whale killed it, just image how small a golf ball is and how big a whale is. They will not choke on it and they probably would have no problems passing it through their system either.

Came to express this outrage, but am leaving somewhat deflated.

FTFA: The stomach examination Monday found the shrimp, woody debris, algae, pieces of rope and plastic, the golf ball and some flat spongy material, NOAA Fisheries said.

The garbage was minimal and not the cause of death, which remains under investigation with tissue tests, spokesman Brian Gorman said.

Welp that's two anymore?


My outrage was at the lousy journalism headline - what hook did you think I was caught on?
 
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