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2012-04-25 01:35:17 PM  
If an eagle can pick up my dense little ball of fat chow, then more power to it. I can hardly get her off the floor.

Maybe an eagle could lift her up and drop her in the tub. She hates baths with a passion, so it's usually a 3-man job.
 
2012-04-25 01:35:44 PM  

wellreadneck: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)
That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.
Fox.


And that eagle is not going to carry that critter off, it is only trying to drive it away from the kill.

Cool picture, though. One that some photographer probably spent weeks shivering in the woods to get.
 
2012-04-25 01:36:04 PM  
My dog would simply not put up with that noise. She has 10 opossum kills under her belt and can run about 30 miles an hour.

i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-04-25 01:36:37 PM  

chewielouie: It would not end well . . . for the eagle.

[wednesdaychef.typepad.com image 480x355]


Fncking-A! Bastard eagle would be on the rotisserie, and my dog would get a helping.
 
2012-04-25 01:39:19 PM  

BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.


It's an adult, ...adult fox that is. Look at the magpie to the right. They're about the same size as a bluejay.
 
2012-04-25 01:40:13 PM  
Both of my dogs, a 25 lb cairn and a 12 lb schnauzer, have been swooped by hawks a couple times and a large owl once (at night walking through the woods, and he almost hit me). One large hawk used to hang around our back yard in a tree until the schnauzer started looking for him and barking like crazy as long as he was there. Note that you are not legally allowed to protect your pets against these majestic birds, not by rock, stick, or even boomerang.
 
2012-04-25 01:42:01 PM  
MOAR. DOG. PICS. NOW.
 
2012-04-25 01:42:31 PM  

wellreadneck: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

Fox.


mongolian wolf:
www.cosmosmith.com
 
2012-04-25 01:44:33 PM  

Chinchillazilla: wellreadneck: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

Fox.

I concur. Goldens are used to hunt wolves in Mongolia, and they can in fact kill adults, but they aren't that big in comparison.



I don't think they generally, or are intended to actually, kill the wolves. The eagles are used to immobilize the wolf.

They're trained to dive on them and use one talon to grab around the wolf's muzzle so it can't bite and then hold on until the tatar with the gun rides up on his horse and shoots the wolf. There are some very cool videos on youtube of this.
 
2012-04-25 01:46:01 PM  
"It swooped down on us about 20 times," she said. "It was a surreal and terrifying experience."

I've gotten tired of seeing "surreal" used this way.

arteest.org

THIS is surreal.

Your dog getting attacked by another animal is just nature happening. It's a bit of a vicarious branch of the food chain for an eagle to try to get your dog, but he's still calories, this is the way the food chain works. Nature is not "surreal". If animals ripping apart other animals and eating them seems wildly unlike normal reality and more like a strange metal album cover, you might enjoy watching a few nature shows.
 
2012-04-25 01:47:34 PM  
We've got 2 Shelties, a monster one that's about 45 pounds and a regular sized one that's about 30 pounds. Any eagle that tried to carry one away would get caught, trapped, and eventually consumed by the ungodly amounts of hair on those dogs.
 
2012-04-25 01:47:37 PM  
paulduncan.org

If you do not like this bird, that is your right. But you also have the right to keep your mouth shut about it.
 
2012-04-25 01:49:09 PM  

Mishno: Chinchillazilla: wellreadneck: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

Fox.

I concur. Goldens are used to hunt wolves in Mongolia, and they can in fact kill adults, but they aren't that big in comparison.


I don't think they generally, or are intended to actually, kill the wolves. The eagles are used to immobilize the wolf.

They're trained to dive on them and use one talon to grab around the wolf's muzzle so it can't bite and then hold on until the tatar with the gun rides up on his horse and shoots the wolf. There are some very cool videos on youtube of this.


Oh, I see. It's not my area of falconry and I find it vaguely sad to see wolves taken down (not against it, I just don't like watching videos of it) so I wasn't really sure of the method. But whether they are meant to or not, the eagles believe they are going to kill the wolves, and will be trying. After a few go-rounds they'll learn the humans will come in and kill the wolf for them, but at first they won't know that and will think it's all on them.
 
2012-04-25 01:50:43 PM  
Eagle attacking a goat.

Looks to be about as large as a meduim sized dog.
 
2012-04-25 01:51:15 PM  

Magorn: wellreadneck: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

Fox.

mongolian wolf:
[www.cosmosmith.com image 446x300]


You're an idiot.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/eaglefox.asp
 
2012-04-25 01:52:02 PM  
i478.photobucket.com



Don't think I would worry much. Although she might try to make friends before fighting...
 
2012-04-25 01:52:05 PM  

farkturf: Note that you are not legally allowed to protect your pets against these majestic birds, not by rock, stick, or even boomerang.


I don't give a flip what the "law" says. If a bird, majestic or not, attacks my best friend, I am in the fight too. The bird WILL lose... I may pay a consequence for my actions, but the bird WILL LOSE.

/When hiking, I'm packing... With intent to protect from humans and other crazy animals.

www.gibdogpetsuppliesblog.com
 
2012-04-25 01:52:22 PM  

Magorn: wellreadneck: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

Fox.

mongolian wolf:
[www.cosmosmith.com image 446x300]


As pretty as those wolves are, they lack the white on the ears and the white tipped tail on the fox in your other photo. No offense intended.
 
2012-04-25 01:52:51 PM  
You're goddamn right I would. When my black lab was alive, I would've farking killed to protect him; animal OR human. And the same would've been true for the basset/beagle mix I had for a couple years a few years back. Killed me when I had to give him up when I moved back in '07. He went to a good home, though, so that tempered my distress.

orclover: Eagles lucky it didnt fly off with one of these.
www.allpetsnews.com
Eagle would fly off and a few minutes later the weinerdog would come trotting back wearing the eagle as a coat.


That is so true. We had one when I was growing up, and one day, out in the front yard, a big-ass German Shepard decided to have our little Schatzie for lunch. My father and I just stood there watching in horror as she rolled over on her back, but then, she reached up and clamped down on that Shepard's neck like it was a hambone. Suffice it to say, we never saw that German Shepard again. They may be small, but you don't fark with a Dachshund. They're a tough breed.
 
2012-04-25 01:53:41 PM  
I was at the park with my daughter's dog, a Pomapoo, the other day. I bald eagle was flying overhead and I thought to myself."Hmmm, maybe this isn't a good time to let her off the leash."

I got to thinking, could I legally do anything to defend her dog from the eagle since it's illegal to harm a bald eagle? Anyone know?
 
2012-04-25 01:56:26 PM  
*A* bald eagle was flying over...


/FTFM
 
2012-04-25 01:58:11 PM  
I have four Chihuahuas who en total weigh 18 lbs and one backyard stalker hawk. I live in fear of THIS.
 
2012-04-25 01:59:54 PM  

RandomAxe: Mikeyworld: If you own a dog larger than your children, you're compensating.

Are you trying to say your kids are fat?


No. I'm trying to say his head is.

Did you back into that comparison?

subject: dog
object: children
 
2012-04-25 02:00:48 PM  

Magorn: wellreadneck: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

Fox.

mongolian wolf:
[www.cosmosmith.com image 446x300]


But thanks to the indentification of the other bird in the pic as a magpie, assuming everyone's in roughly the same plane...the canid is about twice as long as the bird...magpies are about 12" long so the dog-thing would only be about 2ft long, as a cross-check that would give the eagle a roughly 6ft wing-span which would be about right for a Golden eagle, so I'mma gonna say I was wrong on this one

Though I certainly wouldn't put it past this guy:
 
2012-04-25 02:02:36 PM  

eraser8: MOAR. DOG. PICS. NOW.


farm8.staticflickr.com

They are hoping dad shares his snack with them.
 
2012-04-25 02:03:50 PM  
Sorry that was supposed ot be a pic of a Phillipines eagle but google hates me today
 
2012-04-25 02:05:41 PM  

jodieleigh: I have four Chihuahuas who en total weigh 18 lbs and one backyard stalker hawk. I live in fear of THIS.


I won't let my cat outside for thsi reason, hawks and eagles are not uncommon in my backyard and although the ravens usually chase them away, I ain't sanguine about my cat's chances against half a dozen ravens either.
 
2012-04-25 02:06:22 PM  
I have a black lab/German Shepherd mix. I think if there was an eagle that was going to fly away with him it would have had to escape from a mad scientist's lair. The eagles we have here in the mid atlantic could probably make off with little purse dogs and cats though.
 
Nib
2012-04-25 02:06:44 PM  
I jumped between a Pitbull to protect my Beagle when I was only 15. So you bet your ass I would fight a friggin eagle.
 
Nib
2012-04-25 02:08:01 PM  

Whatthefark: I was at the park with my daughter's dog, a Pomapoo, the other day. I bald eagle was flying overhead and I thought to myself."Hmmm, maybe this isn't a good time to let her off the leash."

I got to thinking, could I legally do anything to defend her dog from the eagle since it's illegal to harm a bald eagle? Anyone know?


Does it really matter if that situation arose ?
 
2012-04-25 02:13:05 PM  

coffee fiend: You're goddamn right I would. When my black lab was alive, I would've farking killed to protect him; animal OR human. And the same would've been true for the basset/beagle mix I had for a couple years a few years back. Killed me when I had to give him up when I moved back in '07. He went to a good home, though, so that tempered my distress.

orclover: Eagles lucky it didnt fly off with one of these.
[www.allpetsnews.com image 350x300]
Eagle would fly off and a few minutes later the weinerdog would come trotting back wearing the eagle as a coat.

That is so true. We had one when I was growing up, and one day, out in the front yard, a big-ass German Shepard decided to have our little Schatzie for lunch. My father and I just stood there watching in horror as she rolled over on her back, but then, she reached up and clamped down on that Shepard's neck like it was a hambone. Suffice it to say, we never saw that German Shepard again. They may be small, but you don't fark with a Dachshund. They're a tough breed.


They were originally bred to kill this.

edachshund.com
 
2012-04-25 02:16:58 PM  

fumb duck: It would take a pterodactyl to carry off my dog...

[sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x480]

DOG THREAD!


That is one adorable dog!
 
2012-04-25 02:19:30 PM  

Magorn: jodieleigh: I have four Chihuahuas who en total weigh 18 lbs and one backyard stalker hawk. I live in fear of THIS.

I won't let my cat outside for thsi reason, hawks and eagles are not uncommon in my backyard and although the ravens usually chase them away, I ain't sanguine about my cat's chances against half a dozen ravens either.


I saw my neighbor's cat get attacked by it, kitty slipped under their wood pile just in time. It sits on top of an old swing set frame I use to grow grapes on ... watching ... watching ... watching us ... I HATES IT!!
 
2012-04-25 02:21:33 PM  
Meh, I saw an Animal Planet show Dogs 101 where dude jumped into the water and took on a shark that had grabbed his rat terrier.

Lasers were not confirmed but huge balls were.
 
2012-04-25 02:21:49 PM  

Nib: I jumped between a Pitbull to protect my Beagle when I was only 15. So you bet your ass I would fight a friggin eagle.


That must have made one hell of a mess.
 
2012-04-25 02:27:14 PM  

jodieleigh: Magorn: jodieleigh: I have four Chihuahuas who en total weigh 18 lbs and one backyard stalker hawk. I live in fear of THIS.

I won't let my cat outside for thsi reason, hawks and eagles are not uncommon in my backyard and although the ravens usually chase them away, I ain't sanguine about my cat's chances against half a dozen ravens either.

I saw my neighbor's cat get attacked by it, kitty slipped under their wood pile just in time. It sits on top of an old swing set frame I use to grow grapes on ... watching ... watching ... watching us ... I HATES IT!!


I'd try an air horn.
 
2012-04-25 02:31:42 PM  

grinding_journalist: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.

Pretty much this. My smallest weighs about 22 lbs; it'd take a fully grown golden from Mongolia to snatch her.

Solution: Don't have dogs that can be confused for guinea pigs.


Fly off with? Maybe. Might not stop them from attacking though. My dog is about 25lbs and I frequently take him out to parks where bald eagles frequently take up residence. I'm always keeping my eye out for one of them to swoop down one day.

wellreadneck: jodieleigh: Magorn: jodieleigh: I have four Chihuahuas who en total weigh 18 lbs and one backyard stalker hawk. I live in fear of THIS.

I won't let my cat outside for thsi reason, hawks and eagles are not uncommon in my backyard and although the ravens usually chase them away, I ain't sanguine about my cat's chances against half a dozen ravens either.

I saw my neighbor's cat get attacked by it, kitty slipped under their wood pile just in time. It sits on top of an old swing set frame I use to grow grapes on ... watching ... watching ... watching us ... I HATES IT!!

I'd try an air horn.


Or an airsoft pistol
 
2012-04-25 02:32:12 PM  

sandi_fish: My dog would simply not put up with that noise. She has 10 opossum kills under her belt and can run about 30 miles an hour.

[i48.tinypic.com image 320x240]




Is that a vizsla?
 
2012-04-25 02:35:44 PM  

StrangeQ: grinding_journalist: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.

Pretty much this. My smallest weighs about 22 lbs; it'd take a fully grown golden from Mongolia to snatch her.

Solution: Don't have dogs that can be confused for guinea pigs.

Fly off with? Maybe. Might not stop them from attacking though. My dog is about 25lbs and I frequently take him out to parks where bald eagles frequently take up residence. I'm always keeping my eye out for one of them to swoop down one day.

wellreadneck: jodieleigh: Magorn: jodieleigh: I have four Chihuahuas who en total weigh 18 lbs and one backyard stalker hawk. I live in fear of THIS.

I won't let my cat outside for thsi reason, hawks and eagles are not uncommon in my backyard and although the ravens usually chase them away, I ain't sanguine about my cat's chances against half a dozen ravens either.

I saw my neighbor's cat get attacked by it, kitty slipped under their wood pile just in time. It sits on top of an old swing set frame I use to grow grapes on ... watching ... watching ... watching us ... I HATES IT!!

I'd try an air horn.

Or an airsoft pistol


Thank you. These all sound much nicer than rocks.
 
2012-04-25 02:41:13 PM  

Beerguy: coffee fiend: You're goddamn right I would. When my black lab was alive, I would've farking killed to protect him; animal OR human. And the same would've been true for the basset/beagle mix I had for a couple years a few years back. Killed me when I had to give him up when I moved back in '07. He went to a good home, though, so that tempered my distress.

orclover: Eagles lucky it didnt fly off with one of these.
[www.allpetsnews.com image 350x300]
Eagle would fly off and a few minutes later the weinerdog would come trotting back wearing the eagle as a coat.

That is so true. We had one when I was growing up, and one day, out in the front yard, a big-ass German Shepard decided to have our little Schatzie for lunch. My father and I just stood there watching in horror as she rolled over on her back, but then, she reached up and clamped down on that Shepard's neck like it was a hambone. Suffice it to say, we never saw that German Shepard again. They may be small, but you don't fark with a Dachshund. They're a tough breed.

They were originally bred to kill this.

[edachshund.com image 600x468]


No, they were originally bred to kill:

www.focaldepth.co.uk

Entirely different creature - it's like comparing a paint brush to a chainsaw.

European Badger != American Badger

"Murica - Fark Yeah!!!"
 
2012-04-25 02:46:33 PM  

StrangeQ: grinding_journalist: BurnShrike:
I'd try an air horn.

Or an airsoft pistol


The horn won't give the same satisfaction, but it is easier to aim.
 
2012-04-25 02:46:48 PM  

Mishno: Beerguy: coffee fiend: You're goddamn right I would. When my black lab was alive, I would've farking killed to protect him; animal OR human. And the same would've been true for the basset/beagle mix I had for a couple years a few years back. Killed me when I had to give him up when I moved back in '07. He went to a good home, though, so that tempered my distress.

orclover: Eagles lucky it didnt fly off with one of these.
[www.allpetsnews.com image 350x300]
Eagle would fly off and a few minutes later the weinerdog would come trotting back wearing the eagle as a coat.

That is so true. We had one when I was growing up, and one day, out in the front yard, a big-ass German Shepard decided to have our little Schatzie for lunch. My father and I just stood there watching in horror as she rolled over on her back, but then, she reached up and clamped down on that Shepard's neck like it was a hambone. Suffice it to say, we never saw that German Shepard again. They may be small, but you don't fark with a Dachshund. They're a tough breed.

They were originally bred to kill this.

[edachshund.com image 600x468]

No, they were originally bred to kill:

[www.focaldepth.co.uk image 440x293]

Entirely different creature - it's like comparing a paint brush to a chainsaw.

European Badger != American Badger

"Murica - Fark Yeah!!!"


But thething we all really want to know is how do they both comare to the Honey badger?
 
2012-04-25 02:47:01 PM  

Whatthefark: I was at the park with my daughter's dog, a Pomapoo, the other day. I bald eagle was flying overhead and I thought to myself."Hmmm, maybe this isn't a good time to let her off the leash."

I got to thinking, could I legally do anything to defend her dog from the eagle since it's illegal to harm a bald eagle? Anyone know?


First of all, it's relatively unlikely that a bald eagle will attack a dog with a human, both because they eat mostly fish and because hopefully the dog is close enough to you that the eagle would think you had "dibs" on it. It would rather not fight a larger predator for a meal unless it has to.

I haven't done it, of course, but I believe that if you called Fish and Wildlife after an incident and told them you had fought off/possibly injured an eagle in the area they would appreciate your coming forward so the eagle could possibly be trapped and rehabilitated/relocated. F&W seem to generally be pretty understanding about human vs. wildlife problems. If you straight-up killed it you'd probably be in trouble, but unless the eagle was starving I don't think it would take that much to discourage it.
 
2012-04-25 02:47:52 PM  
my niece has a problem with bald eagles. When the parents are teaching the kids to hunt they always swoop down on the pets in her neighborhood. She has 3 golden retrievers that have been dive bombed by the eagles and stalked by the coyotes.
In my neighborhood I just have to deal with red tailed hawks,coyotes, and owls.I swear my dog (malamute mix) and the hawk are in a race for the most small game kills, sometimes even going after the same rabbit.
 
2012-04-25 02:49:13 PM  

Mishno: Beerguy: coffee fiend: You're goddamn right I would. When my black lab was alive, I would've farking killed to protect him; animal OR human. And the same would've been true for the basset/beagle mix I had for a couple years a few years back. Killed me when I had to give him up when I moved back in '07. He went to a good home, though, so that tempered my distress.

orclover: Eagles lucky it didnt fly off with one of these.
[www.allpetsnews.com image 350x300]
Eagle would fly off and a few minutes later the weinerdog would come trotting back wearing the eagle as a coat.

That is so true. We had one when I was growing up, and one day, out in the front yard, a big-ass German Shepard decided to have our little Schatzie for lunch. My father and I just stood there watching in horror as she rolled over on her back, but then, she reached up and clamped down on that Shepard's neck like it was a hambone. Suffice it to say, we never saw that German Shepard again. They may be small, but you don't fark with a Dachshund. They're a tough breed.

They were originally bred to kill this.

[edachshund.com image 600x468]

No, they were originally bred to kill:

[www.focaldepth.co.uk image 440x293]

Entirely different creature - it's like comparing a paint brush to a chainsaw.

European Badger != American Badger

"Murica - Fark Yeah!!!"


Forgive my ignorance, I didn't know that there were different subfamilies of badgers. Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that ALL badgers are mean as hell and tough to kill.
 
2012-04-25 02:52:21 PM  

Mishno: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

It's an adult, ...adult fox that is. Look at the magpie to the right. They're about the same size as a bluejay.


Your Magpies are small, I remember Magpies as being rather bigger than Jays. Unfortunately no Magpies around where I live now...
 
2012-04-25 02:53:50 PM  

Beerguy: You bet your ass I would.


This.
 
2012-04-25 02:54:27 PM  
Heck yeah I'd take on an eagle to save my best friend


farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-04-25 02:55:45 PM  

Beerguy: Mishno: Beerguy: coffee fiend: You're goddamn right I would. When my black lab was alive, I would've farking killed to protect him; animal OR human. And the same would've been true for the basset/beagle mix I had for a couple years a few years back. Killed me when I had to give him up when I moved back in '07. He went to a good home, though, so that tempered my distress.

orclover: Eagles lucky it didnt fly off with one of these.
[www.allpetsnews.com image 350x300]
Eagle would fly off and a few minutes later the weinerdog would come trotting back wearing the eagle as a coat.

That is so true. We had one when I was growing up, and one day, out in the front yard, a big-ass German Shepard decided to have our little Schatzie for lunch. My father and I just stood there watching in horror as she rolled over on her back, but then, she reached up and clamped down on that Shepard's neck like it was a hambone. Suffice it to say, we never saw that German Shepard again. They may be small, but you don't fark with a Dachshund. They're a tough breed.

They were originally bred to kill this.

[edachshund.com image 600x468]

No, they were originally bred to kill:

[www.focaldepth.co.uk image 440x293]

Entirely different creature - it's like comparing a paint brush to a chainsaw.

European Badger != American Badger

"Murica - Fark Yeah!!!"

Forgive my ignorance, I didn't know that there were different subfamilies of badgers. Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that ALL badgers are mean as hell and tough to kill.


There's a spectrum of badger bad-assness. European badgers are quite docile until threatened, sort of like American racoons. American badgers are pretty mean all the time, and as mentioned above, the Honey Badger just don't care - he's a BAD ASS.
 
2012-04-25 02:57:02 PM  

Medic Zero: Mishno: BurnShrike: Magorn: BurnShrike: If you own a dog small enough to be carried away by an eagle, it's not a dog. It's a rat.
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 464x309]
I'm sorry, what was that you were saying? (and yes that IS an adult wolf)

That's quite clearly a wolf pup, and not an adult.

It's an adult, ...adult fox that is. Look at the magpie to the right. They're about the same size as a bluejay.

Your Magpies are small, I remember Magpies as being rather bigger than Jays. Unfortunately no Magpies around where I live now...




The big question is whether that was an African or European Magpie, and what it's unladen airspeed might be
 
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