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2012-04-25 09:55:52 AM
I know that article was written by Klosterman, but it still struck me as particularly Klosterman-y.
 
2012-04-25 10:09:15 AM
Repeat from the redlit thread yesterday: The only thing that could possibly be worse than attending a Creed/Nickleback show is reading a Chuck Klosterman article about it.
 
2012-04-25 10:11:14 AM
When is the funeral?
 
2012-04-25 10:28:13 AM
I'd rather see Hole open for Tool.
 
2012-04-25 10:34:38 AM
A flick of Stapp sweat? Really? I can't tell if I'm looking at his face or his balls half the time. I guess it doesn't really matter to her though.
 
2012-04-25 10:50:28 AM
Fact: The guy that did my drywall remodel in 2009 wore a Nickelback t shirt on the job. He was proud of it. Got it at a recent show at the White River Amphitheater. He said it was the best show he'd seen in years.

He also was real angry over having to set the toilet, he only does dry wall damnit. And he stormed off the job over something involving paint.
 
2012-04-25 11:45:59 AM

Generation_D: Fact: The guy that did my drywall remodel in 2009 wore a Nickelback t shirt on the job. He was proud of it. Got it at a recent show at the White River Amphitheater. He said it was the best show he'd seen in years.

He also was real angry over having to set the toilet, he only does dry wall damnit. And he stormed off the job over something involving paint.


www.onntv.com

"WRONG PAINT."
 
2012-04-25 01:09:54 PM
I would've enjoyed both those shows.
and no, I'm not kidding.

-I would've ended the night by walking a Pit Bull to a Dane Cook show.

yep.
(am I missing any?)
 
2012-04-25 01:15:19 PM

Dr.Knockboots: I would've enjoyed both those shows.
and no, I'm not kidding.

-I would've ended the night by walking a Pit Bull to a Dane Cook show.

yep.
(am I missing any?)


Carlos Mencia and Jeff Dunham.
 
2012-04-25 01:16:24 PM
Creed might be tolerable (note - I didn't say good, I said tolerable) without Scott Stapp

I can't see a way of improving Nickelback except maybe

i1127.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-25 01:16:31 PM
Like him or not, this Klosterman's wheelhouse, and what he really should be doing on Grantland. The few podcasts I've listened to with him and Simmons blathering on about something remotely related to sports have been painful, mostly because (a) Klosterman's voice is even more annoying than Bill's (a feat I didn't think was humanly possible), and Simmons isn't nearly as adept at navel-gazing over whatever meta crap Klosterman wants to, and the conversation becomes awkward.

Also, JCK is the best contributor on there. Hands down. If you told me he wrote the Bumf*ck County phonebook for BellSouth, I'd read it over my lunch. His piece on gambling addiction a couple years ago is definitely worth the read: Link
 
2012-04-25 01:17:56 PM

12349876: Dr.Knockboots: I would've enjoyed both those shows.
and no, I'm not kidding.

-I would've ended the night by walking a Pit Bull to a Dane Cook show.

yep.
(am I missing any?)

Carlos Mencia and Jeff Dunham.


..and then spent the rest of the night watching reruns of According to Jim.
 
2012-04-25 01:19:47 PM
I'd rather stay at home and bash myself in the testicles with a ball-peen hammer than go to either of those concerts or read a Klosterman article. I'm actually not sure which one is worse, but "Killing Yourself to Live" was quite possibly the worst piece of garbage ever written on murdered trees.
 
2012-04-25 01:20:27 PM

Killer Cars: Like him or not, this IS Klosterman's wheelhouse


Sorry. I'm taking a remedial class on typing weekday evenings.
 
2012-04-25 01:23:35 PM

Dr.Knockboots: I would've enjoyed both those shows.
and no, I'm not kidding.

-I would've ended the night by walking a Pit Bull to a Dane Cook show.

yep.
(am I missing any?)


Listening to Pitbull while walking said Pit Bull.

/Got it locked up like Lindsey Lohan
 
2012-04-25 01:25:46 PM
As soon as I read that Nickleback was the 'most popular rock band of 2012', I stopped reading.
 
2012-04-25 01:29:09 PM
 
2012-04-25 01:29:35 PM
My girlfriend tried to make me buy tickets to the Bush/Nickleback show in Seattle this summer. I told her to GFY...she replied "Bush is opening for them so we can just leave". I told her there is no way I would pay for a ticket that would benefit Nickleback in any way. Fark Bush for signing on with such a horrible band.
 
2012-04-25 01:32:59 PM
I'd rather stick my dick in a meat grinder.
 
2012-04-25 01:33:33 PM
Folks can hate all they want, but they aren't any worse than any other pop/rock band out there. This line FTFA "A better answer as to why people dislike Nickelback is tautological: They hate them because they hate them. Sometimes it's fun to hate things arbitrarily, and Nickelback has become an acceptable thing to hate." Pretty much sums things up.
 
2012-04-25 01:35:47 PM
I like both Nickleback and Creed, I think both are really good bands.
 
2012-04-25 01:36:55 PM

rickycal78: Folks can hate all they want, but they aren't any worse than any other pop/rock band out there. This line FTFA "A better answer as to why people dislike Nickelback is tautological: They hate them because they hate them. Sometimes it's fun to hate things arbitrarily, and Nickelback has become an acceptable thing to hate." Pretty much sums things up.


No. I hate them for a myriad of reasons. It may be Kroeger's voice, their simplistic song writing, shallow lyrics, reliance on power chords, etc. Choose one of those reasons. It's like they're trying to be AC/DC, but their one song sucks. I hate them, because they suck. I feel they are the shining example of why terrestrial radio blows.
 
2012-04-25 01:38:42 PM
This whole thread:

media.comicvine.com

/laughed out loud the first time I heard Rockstar
//Nickleback has a few OK songs
 
2012-04-25 01:39:21 PM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-04-25 01:41:08 PM

babysealclubber: No. I hate them for a myriad of reasons. It may be Kroeger's voice, their simplistic song writing, shallow lyrics, reliance on power chords, etc


And so again I say they aren't any worse than any other pop/rock band out there.
 
2012-04-25 01:41:20 PM
Creed did their debut album? He got off easy, that was always the one album even Creed haters seemed to tolerate. I never thought they were that bad (although a little of Stapp's voice goes a long way), but by the time their final album came out it was pretty generic and unbearable.

I guess I always thought part of the reason that people detested Creed was that their One Song (Eyes Wide Open) was farking everywhere. It was nice, but it wasn't THAT good. Plus, those strings in a grungy song? Just wrong. The other major reason was that Stapp turned into a drunk jerk who sloshed through sets while making Bono look like a timid shoegazer.
 
2012-04-25 01:41:35 PM

babysealclubber: their simplistic song writing, shallow lyrics,


That's more or less why I hate them. I thought Silver Side Up wasn't too bad of an album, but after that I just started to really hate their songs. Basically it started with "How you remind me"...I just really hated that song and nothing since has changed my mind
 
2012-04-25 01:41:39 PM
Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as KISS

/The End
 
2012-04-25 01:45:32 PM
I like Creed. The hate on Stap is pretty much because he was openly Christian. Nickleback however, does nothing for me.
 
2012-04-25 01:45:53 PM

solyhhit: Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as KISS

/The End


*waits for the Nickleback coffin*
 
2012-04-25 01:49:06 PM

solyhhit: Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as KISS

/The End


Ooh, nice that will get some bites.

Some others:
Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as Joss Whedon.
Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as Bruce Campbell.
Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as Christopher Walken.

/can't think of any other Fark sacred cows
 
2012-04-25 01:57:12 PM
Fine, I'll say it. I have three Creed songs on my ipod. Okay? Is that what you wanted to hear? I'm not proud of it, but I learned it from you, dad. I learned it from you.

/But I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I ever put any Nickelback on there.
//or recognize Missourah.
 
2012-04-25 01:57:26 PM

beta_plus: /can't think of any other Fark sacred cows


Your error is assuming anyone that matters give a shiat about KISS.
 
2012-04-25 02:00:32 PM

TheLopper: Fine, I'll say it. I have three Creed songs on my ipod. Okay? Is that what you wanted to hear? I'm not proud of it, but I learned it from you, dad. I learned it from you.


I like My Own Prison.....

That is about it
 
2012-04-25 02:00:53 PM

solyhhit: Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as KISS

/The End


I've never heard Nickleback, but if they're comparable to KISS, I guess I have to agree with you.
 
2012-04-25 02:07:34 PM
According to the author, the most 5 hated bands are Bush, Hootie and the Blowfish, Limp Bizkit, Creed, and Nickelback. Of the 5, with a gun to my head and I had to pick a concert to go to, I'd pick Hootie. Otherwise, I'd prefer being shot in the head.
 
2012-04-25 02:10:30 PM

bark_atda_moon: According to the author, the most 5 hated bands are Bush, Hootie and the Blowfish, Limp Bizkit, Creed, and Nickelback. Of the 5, with a gun to my head and I had to pick a concert to go to, I'd pick Hootie. Otherwise, I'd prefer being shot in the head.


Considering what Hootie's lead singer is up to these days, I hope you like country. Or that you don't find yourself in that situation. That would work too.
 
2012-04-25 02:13:51 PM
I read the article until this:

The singer is gracious, thanking the audience after almost every song (he will dedicate their final number, "Reach," to the U.S. Armed Forces). He likes people, but only if they are physically in front of him. "This next song is dedicated to all the Internet tough guys who talk a lot of shiat on the computer but would never say shiat to your face," he declares before they play a tune called "Run Your Mouth." With only 1,310 followers on Twitter, I would not have guessed there were a lot of clowns trolling Eve to Adam, but I suppose there must be. I mean, the band does exist.

I love how he can't resist burying them because they called his type out on stage. The butthurt is palpable here.

Also,

babysealclubber:
No. I hate them for a myriad of reasons. It may be Kroeger's voice, their simplistic song writing, shallow lyrics, reliance on power chords, etc. Choose one of those reasons. It's like they're trying to be AC/DC, but their one song sucks. I hate them, because they suck. I feel they are the shining example of why terrestrial radio blows.


Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.
 
2012-04-25 02:15:07 PM

bark_atda_moon: According to the author, the most 5 hated bands are Bush, Hootie and the Blowfish, Limp Bizkit, Creed, and Nickelback. Of the 5, with a gun to my head and I had to pick a concert to go to, I'd pick Hootie. Otherwise, I'd prefer being shot in the head.


I'd rather go see Bush, Hootie, and maybe even Creed before I'd see ICP live.
 
2012-04-25 02:16:11 PM
At the Beacon, I sat in front of a 31-year-old man named Anthony Cona. He told me he'd once met the drummer and bassist from Creed in a Charlotte, North Carolina, hotel bar,3 and that both were extraordinarily nice, normal people.

This is how you remind me of why I can't hate Nickelback (full disclosure - I only have one ipod track, Leader of Men). I worked at one of the bars they often played when they were starting out. They treated our staffers and patrons like gold, they were not prima-donna d-bags like many of their contemporaries, and they weren't a corporate creation - they paid their dues on the bar circuit before the internet heard of 'em.
 
2012-04-25 02:19:25 PM

FreakinB: Considering what Hootie's lead singer is up to these days, I hope you like country. Or that you don't find yourself in that situation. That would work too.


I don't like country music at all, but I really can't stand the other 4 bands.


LeroyBourne:
I'd rather go see Bush, Hootie, and maybe even Creed before I'd see ICP live.


I'd rather see any of the bands discussed in this thread together in one giant horrible concert then sit through 30 minutes of Dave Matthews playing one song, but that is 7th layer of hell stuff right there.
 
2012-04-25 02:33:46 PM

bark_atda_moon: Dave Matthews


I don't "hate" Dave Matthews (I don't like him either), but one of my friends works concessions at a concert venue and said that when he played there, 90% of the fans were of the "drunken frat boy" variety apparently, which makes me never want to be at a Dave Matthews concert.

/also, they all call him "Dave" like he is their friend or something
 
2012-04-25 02:37:04 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-04-25 02:37:11 PM

Bob_Laublaw: At the Beacon, I sat in front of a 31-year-old man named Anthony Cona. He told me he'd once met the drummer and bassist from Creed in a Charlotte, North Carolina, hotel bar,3 and that both were extraordinarily nice, normal people.

This is how you remind me of why I can't hate Nickelback (full disclosure - I only have one ipod track, Leader of Men). I worked at one of the bars they often played when they were starting out. They treated our staffers and patrons like gold, they were not prima-donna d-bags like many of their contemporaries, and they weren't a corporate creation - they paid their dues on the bar circuit before the internet heard of 'em.


Nickelback is the quintessential boring pop/rock band, but at least they're not an annoying band. I can fairly easily tune them out. Creed actively bothers me and makes me all stabby.
 
2012-04-25 02:39:12 PM

Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.


Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.
 
2012-04-25 02:41:00 PM
I'll put ketchup on my hot dog if I want...

Oops. Wrong hate thread.
 
2012-04-25 02:44:37 PM

Madbassist1: ark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.


I'm pretty sure I gave plenty of reasons, none of which were, "it's hip to hate them." I can't stand their sound, nor the whole "LETS GET REALLY DRUNK AND DOUBLE TEAM SOME SKANK CUZ ITS NOT GAY IF OUR BALLS DONT TOUCH!!!! WHOOO PARTY LIKE A ROCKSTAR!!!" culture their music invites and glorifies. Not to mention that their crowd is like the DMB fans, with more cutoffs t-shirts instead of Spierry's.
 
2012-04-25 02:46:32 PM

Madbassist1: I love how he can't resist burying them because they called his type out on stage. The butthurt is palpable here.


So are you a Creed fan, or a Nickleback fan?
 
2012-04-25 02:49:38 PM

bark_atda_moon: According to the author, the most 5 hated bands are Bush, Hootie and the Blowfish, Limp Bizkit, Creed, and Nickelback. Of the 5, with a gun to my head and I had to pick a concert to go to, I'd pick Hootie. Otherwise, I'd prefer being shot in the head.


I don't think Bush was that bad and would take them over a vast majority of what is on the radio now. If Bush was aping Nirvana, then Creed was aping Pearl Jam. I don't find either of them particularly bad, even if it's not something I would listen to. Nickleback is basically a smarmy Creed, though.


Limp Bizkit deserves all the scorn they get. fark those guys.
 
2012-04-25 02:51:51 PM
CSB time...

My buddy and I saw Creed in '97 right after they released the single for "My Own Prison". I still remember him calling me and asking if I wanted to see them and I didn't even know who they were. After telling me the song they sang, I remember saying something like "Oh, those dudes who kind of sound like Seven Mary Three". Anyhow, I think it was like only like $5 or $10 to see them, so I agreed to go.

I will say this. They were freaking great that night. So great that I went out the next day and bought the album at Blockbuster Music. As great as they were when I saw them, the album was just kind of meh. I think shortly after that, they blew up and were on each and every rock station 24/7.

I can't really say that I hate them. They put on a nice show when I saw them (and it was cheaper than a movie ticket).
 
2012-04-25 02:52:08 PM

solyhhit: Nickleback will never be as shiatty, pandering, or talentless as KISS

/The End


No, but they suck because they're actively trying to be on a daily basis.

That's the point.
 
2012-04-25 02:52:16 PM
It's funny. This entire thread is what I expected when Klosterman wrote it. People hate for the sake of hating without weighing merits, etc.

There's no logical discourse, it's just that one person says they suck and another person agrees with it because it's "cool" to do so without any reasoning behind it.

Case in point: Justin Beiber. I don't *hate* Justin Beiber. He has done nothing wrong to earn my ire, other than be a popular pop singer. There are people who do like him. So why should I fault those people?

One of my favorite bands is basically a reformation of a 90's one hit wonder. (Refreshments -> Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers). I'm not going to fault anyone who DOESN'T like them, if it's not their thing, but Nickleback sells out arenas. I just don't get it.

Like what you like.
 
ecl
2012-04-25 02:52:43 PM

rickycal78: Folks can hate all they want, but they aren't any worse than any other pop/rock band out there. This line FTFA "A better answer as to why people dislike Nickelback is tautological: They hate them because they hate them. Sometimes it's fun to hate things arbitrarily, and Nickelback has become an acceptable thing to hate." Pretty much sums things up.


Cry more Kid Rock.
 
2012-04-25 02:53:07 PM

thamike: Madbassist1: I love how he can't resist burying them because they called his type out on stage. The butthurt is palpable here.

So are you a Creed fan, or a Nickleback fan?


Neither. I just think babysealclubber was being overly pretentious in his post, and the article writer is trying to get himself over rather than explore the subject matter.

Now as far as being pretentious goes, I currently am listening to Esperanza Spalding. She's a kick ass bassist and hot to boot!
 
2012-04-25 02:54:13 PM
And to think, Stapp was a mere six feet from the edge...
 
2012-04-25 02:54:18 PM

babysealclubber: Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.

Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.


Jack White is untalented as far as guitarists or singers go. I also don't really like his songwriting. People give him more credit than he's due because Rolling Stone has been sucking his dick for 10 years.
 
2012-04-25 02:55:01 PM
Yeah, I hate both these bands, let me share a stupid story bro...

Back when 'You Remind Me' came out it was all over the farking radio. So, It comes on my favorite rock station at the time, ugh, flip over to rock station #2, yep 'You Remind Me' is also playing on that station. Flip over to rock station #3, ahhhhh, relief....for two farking songs and you guessed it, on comes 'You Remind Me'. Add a gf at the time who played the shiat out of their album and guess what? I farking hate Nickelback. I don't think they are the worst band ever, but I am extremely sick of them. Guess that makes me a hipster or something.
 
2012-04-25 02:57:47 PM

MattyFridays:
Case in point: Justin Beiber. I don't *hate* Justin Beiber. He has done nothing wrong to earn my ire, other than be a popular pop singer. There are people who do like him. So why should I fault those people?


I was listening to the radio yesterday and I thought this song was pretty catchy. I look and turns out it's this new Justin Beiber song "Boyfriend." I guess it's not so bad, he is Canadian after all. Gotta support my bros from up north.

His rapping is really bad on that song though. Don't rap, JB.

I remember there was a Gotye hate thread the other day. Half the thread loved him half the thread hated him. Whatever. I like a few songs by every artist pretty much. Even Nickelback and Creed.
 
2012-04-25 03:00:50 PM

Madbassist1: Neither. I just think babysealclubber was being overly pretentious


Think all you want, but me laying out actual reasons I hate them is not being pretentious. Sorry, I just don't get off on "FARK YEAH" type of rock.

Syllabic: Jack White is untalented as far as guitarists


I completely disagree. Technically wonderful? No. But I look at him the way I do Edge. He creates some real interesting sounds with his guitar, and his approach is fascinating. And he's a great songwriter. I couldn't care less what Rolling Stone thinks either. I honestly don't think I've ever managed to completely go through an issue without growing tired of it.
 
2012-04-25 03:02:01 PM
I saw Incubus in 2007 and they were fan-farking-tastic.

That said, their newest album is an abomination. There are no rock songs on it for some reason.
 
2012-04-25 03:04:06 PM

MattyFridays: Case in point: Justin Beiber. I don't *hate* Justin Beiber. He has done nothing wrong to earn my ire, other than be a popular pop singer. There are people who do like him. So why should I fault those people?


You pretty much nailed it here - you're not part of the targeted demographic for Beiber as you're likely not an 11 to 17 year-old girl; it makes sense and is entirely predictable that his product doesn't & shouldn't appeal to you.

So when some folks above spend time and posts hating a band that's not targeting their particular demo, it's easy to suspect dogpiling/hipsterism as a motivator.
 
2012-04-25 03:09:36 PM

Syllabic: Jack White is untalented as far as guitarists or singers go.


I'm not a particularly big Jack White fan, at all, but I literally have no understanding of how you can come to the conclusion that he's "untalented".

babysealclubber: I completely disagree. Technically wonderful? No. But I look at him the way I do Edge. He creates some real interesting sounds with his guitar, and his approach is fascinating


I can dig that. And, to be fair to White, he developed a bombastic, distorted guitar sound in part I imagine to compensate for not having a bassist in the Stripes...and I doubt because he lacks the technical proficiency to do anything else. I think there's a myriad of guitarists out there unfairly typecast because they've been loyal to re-creating a certain aesthetic that just best fits whatever they're doing.
 
2012-04-25 03:10:24 PM

babysealclubber: Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.

Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.


Talented maybe, but he still plays shiatty unlistenable music.

ecl:

Cry more Kid Rock.


LOL the shiat people here on Fark remember from months ago. I can't believe I made enough of a lasting impression on someone that they remember me saying Kid Rock makes some decent music in some Fark thread months ago.

This entire thread reeks of folks hating on things because it's popular and acceptable to do so and it gives them something to interact with others about. There's a lot of music out there I don't like, but there's not a single band or musician/artist/whatever that I just absolutely hate, except maybe Gary Glitter, but that's due to the child pron more than his music.
 
2012-04-25 03:11:10 PM
These two bands are bland and safe. Two things rock and roll should never aspire to be. I don't hate them, I just don't understand their success. But they've clearly figured something out.

/Currently listening to: Dead Kennedys - Let's Lynch the Landlord.
 
2012-04-25 03:11:31 PM

babysealclubber: Syllabic: Jack White is untalented as far as guitarists

I completely disagree. Technically wonderful? No. But I look at him the way I do Edge. He creates some real interesting sounds with his guitar, and his approach is fascinating. And he's a great songwriter. I couldn't care less what Rolling Stone thinks either. I honestly don't think I've ever managed to completely go through an issue without growing tired of it.


I think he tries really hard to be Neil Young and sometimes comes close to it. I like a few of his songs but most of his catalogue turns me off.

I think Madbassists' point is that many of the arguments you levy against Nickelback could also be applied to the white stripes. Their songwriting is derivative and simplistic. Lyrics are shallow. The biggest difference is that Jack White deliberately sings off-key most of the time. So by forcing himself to be a bad musician (in terms of harmony and correct pitch) he somehow endears himself to you and creates the illusion of depth in his music. Meanwhile Neil Young has been doing exactly the same schtick for 30 years.

I just looked up the lyrics to "Icky Thump." It's a standard rock narrative about an encounter with an attractive woman.
 
2012-04-25 03:14:49 PM

Killer Cars: I'm not a particularly big Jack White fan, at all, but I literally have no understanding of how you can come to the conclusion that he's "untalented".


Because he's not a very good guitarist or singer? I've never been impressed with any of his work on a technical or songwriting level. And his singing is (possibly deliberately) atrocious, I don't think you can really defend it.

The guitarist from Creed is a much much much more talented musician than Jack White, actually. Mark Tremonti.
 
2012-04-25 03:14:53 PM

Syllabic: I like a few of his songs but most of his catalogue turns me off.


Fair enough. But that doesn't make you pretentious, and I'm not going to tell you to get over yourself.
 
2012-04-25 03:15:53 PM

Syllabic: Killer Cars: I'm not a particularly big Jack White fan, at all, but I literally have no understanding of how you can come to the conclusion that he's "untalented".

Because he's not a very good guitarist or singer? I've never been impressed with any of his work on a technical or songwriting level. And his singing is (possibly deliberately) atrocious, I don't think you can really defend it.

The guitarist from Creed is a much much much more talented musician than Jack White, actually. Mark Tremonti.


Creed's biggest problem is Scott Stapp. Most people hate Creed because of Scott Stapp. Tremonti has some serious metal chops, but comparing him and Jack White is apples and oranges.
 
ecl
2012-04-25 03:16:19 PM

Bob_Laublaw: MattyFridays: Case in point: Justin Beiber. I don't *hate* Justin Beiber. He has done nothing wrong to earn my ire, other than be a popular pop singer. There are people who do like him. So why should I fault those people?

You pretty much nailed it here - you're not part of the targeted demographic for Beiber as you're likely not an 11 to 17 year-old girl; it makes sense and is entirely predictable that his product doesn't & shouldn't appeal to you.

So when some folks above spend time and posts hating a band that's not targeting their particular demo, it's easy to suspect dogpiling/hipsterism as a motivator.


How do you know the people posting aren't in the targeted demographic?
 
2012-04-25 03:16:53 PM

babysealclubber: Syllabic: I like a few of his songs but most of his catalogue turns me off.

Fair enough. But that doesn't make you pretentious, and I'm not going to tell you to get over yourself.


Ah jeesh dude, I was just being hyperbolic. Dayum I didnt mean to get under your skin THAT much! Like what you like. Sorry.
 
2012-04-25 03:18:26 PM
If I thought Nickleback was 'mocking' rock, they would be one of my favorite bands ever. But I think they are serious. Whenever one of their songs comes on I just pretend it is Weird Al and then its brilliant.

If Awesom-O wrote misogynistic rock songs.... just replace Adam Sandler with Nickleback.

I was never a big KISS Fan back in the day, but after working a a design project that featured them I became a fan. I got he impression everything was a big troll to them. They just kept taking things further and further to see where they could go and seemed to have a good time with it. And Ace Frehley could actually write and seems to have talent. Plus Gene Simmons was in Runaway and that gets him a partial pass... but his stupid reality show has used most of the goodwill.
 
2012-04-25 03:18:58 PM

Syllabic: The guitarist from Creed is a much much much more talented musician than Jack White, actually. Mark Tremonti.


Tremonti can noodle off some serious solos, no doubt, and for him I think it's unfortunate he's been relegated to riding along mostly with Creed & Alter Bridge, but you might as well compare Daft Punk to Tori Amos. It's inherently unfair to take two totally different styles and make a value judgement.
 
ecl
2012-04-25 03:20:04 PM

rickycal78: babysealclubber: Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.

Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.

Talented maybe, but he still plays shiatty unlistenable music.

ecl:

Cry more Kid Rock.

LOL the shiat people here on Fark remember from months ago. I can't believe I made enough of a lasting impression on someone that they remember me saying Kid Rock makes some decent music in some Fark thread months ago.

This entire thread reeks of folks hating on things because it's popular and acceptable to do so and it gives them something to interact with others about. There's a lot of music out there I don't like, but there's not a single band or musician/artist/whatever that I just absolutely hate, except maybe Gary Glitter, but that's due to the child pron more than his music.


I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.
 
2012-04-25 03:20:30 PM

MeatPopcicle: If I thought Nickleback was 'mocking' rock, they would be one of my favorite bands ever. But I think they are serious. Whenever one of their songs comes on I just pretend it is Weird Al and then its brilliant.

If Awesom-O wrote misogynistic rock songs.... just replace Adam Sandler with Nickleback.

I was never a big KISS Fan back in the day, but after working a a design project that featured them I became a fan. I got he impression everything was a big troll to them. They just kept taking things further and further to see where they could go and seemed to have a good time with it. And Ace Frehley could actually write and seems to have talent. Plus Gene Simmons was in Runaway and that gets him a partial pass... but his stupid reality show has used most of the goodwill.


Sometimes I'm not sure about Gene. There's times when I think he takes himself too seriously, and others where I think he's just running with something and having a good time with it. Dude does seem to have a bit of an ego.
 
2012-04-25 03:20:47 PM

Madbassist1: babysealclubber: Syllabic: I like a few of his songs but most of his catalogue turns me off.

Fair enough. But that doesn't make you pretentious, and I'm not going to tell you to get over yourself.

Ah jeesh dude, I was just being hyperbolic. Dayum I didnt mean to get under your skin THAT much! Like what you like. Sorry.


Don't worry about it, I just really don't like Nickelback.
 
2012-04-25 03:21:34 PM

ecl: I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.


That says more about you than it does them.
 
2012-04-25 03:21:41 PM

ecl: How do you know the people posting aren't in the targeted demographic?


Deduction, but I should have also included psychograhphic to be more precise. As babysealclubber dubbed Nickelback above as "FARK YEAH" rock, the targeted demo/psycho for that brand of music generally doesn't cross over to the type that I've seen inhabiting FARK.
 
2012-04-25 03:24:05 PM

ecl: rickycal78: babysealclubber: Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.

Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.

Talented maybe, but he still plays shiatty unlistenable music.

ecl:

Cry more Kid Rock.

LOL the shiat people here on Fark remember from months ago. I can't believe I made enough of a lasting impression on someone that they remember me saying Kid Rock makes some decent music in some Fark thread months ago.

This entire thread reeks of folks hating on things because it's popular and acceptable to do so and it gives them something to interact with others about. There's a lot of music out there I don't like, but there's not a single band or musician/artist/whatever that I just absolutely hate, except maybe Gary Glitter, but that's due to the child pron more than his music.

I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.


Wow, did he shiat in your cheerios once, or rape your dog and kill your sister or something? Flagging people for defending a famous musician? Does it really mean that much to you that you feel the need to have a reminder of it?
 
2012-04-25 03:24:25 PM
I specifically liked this part of the article:

Chad Kroeger is tenderly coaching the audience on how to properly respond to the next song. "Come on, ladies," he says, "let's pretend you're 13 f[ar]king years old at a Justin f[ar]king Bieber concert."

Um, well, they pretty much are. This is more or less teeny-bopper pop for soccer moms and Tumbleweed waitresses.

Also, has it occurred to any of the trolls,...oops, pardon me, I mean, defenders of Nickelback and Creed, that the main sreason they're hated is because it's too easy to pinpoint their derivative sound? It's like neither band even bothered to rip off Pearl Jam, they just ripped off the bands that ripped off Pearl Jam, aping all the most common characteristics of these bands, like singing like you're trying to take a dump after chain-smoking 3 unfiltered cigarettes?

Who knew that in 2012 Seven Mary Three would be the missing link for modern rock?
 
2012-04-25 03:27:08 PM

MattyFridays: It's funny. This entire thread is what I expected when Klosterman wrote it. People hate for the sake of hating without weighing merits, etc.

There's no logical discourse, it's just that one person says they suck and another person agrees with it because it's "cool" to do so without any reasoning behind it.

Case in point: Justin Beiber. I don't *hate* Justin Beiber. He has done nothing wrong to earn my ire, other than be a popular pop singer. There are people who do like him. So why should I fault those people?

One of my favorite bands is basically a reformation of a 90's one hit wonder. (Refreshments -> Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers). I'm not going to fault anyone who DOESN'T like them, if it's not their thing, but Nickleback sells out arenas. I just don't get it.

Like what you like.


I agree with you completely. Creed and Nickelback aren't my thing but I'm not going to get upset about them or trash them. It's not like anyone's forcing me to listen to them. But it's the internet, this is going to happen.
 
2012-04-25 03:28:30 PM
I read an interview with Chad whatshisname in Playboy a few years back. He really comes off as a class-A douche bag. He freely admits stealing anything that wasn't nailed down when he was a kid, (and I hate thieves) and makes crude remarks about his whore of the hour right in front of her. He also let's it slip that the band made 5 million dollars off their debut album which tells me he is insecure about his band, his money, and he needs a better agent. Also he's spending his money too quick.
 
2012-04-25 03:28:31 PM

Madbassist1: Neither. I just think babysealclubber was being overly pretentious in his post, and the article writer is trying to get himself over rather than explore the subject matter.


I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.
 
2012-04-25 03:30:28 PM
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2012-04-25 03:32:00 PM

Madbassist1: I read an interview with Chad whatshisname in Playboy a few years back. He really comes off as a class-A douche bag.


As the article points out, their existence as band, when dealing with the media, is to constantly answer questions as to why everyone seemingly hates their very existence as a band.

I can't stand them, but I can't blame him for being either a defensive, insecure jackass, or a trolly "yah, I make big bucks and f*ck anything I want. What?" D-bag...whichever he really is.
 
2012-04-25 03:32:03 PM

FreakinB: I agree with you completely. Creed and Nickelback aren't my thing but I'm not going to get upset about them or trash them. It's not like anyone's forcing me to listen to them. But it's the internet, this is going to happen.


Reminds me of this. Skip to about 1:50 for relevance.
 
2012-04-25 03:32:56 PM

thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.


That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!
 
2012-04-25 03:35:22 PM

beta_plus: This whole thread:

[media.comicvine.com image 387x417]

/laughed out loud the first time I heard Rockstar
//Nickleback has a few OK songs


Exactly. I don't get the hate for Nickelback. I think it's just reflexive and "cool". Nickelback is one of the only bands around these days where when I buy there album, put it on and know it's a safe bet that it will be good until the final note of the last song. Sort of like Pink Floyd. Just put it on and don't even think about changing/skipping any songs.
 
2012-04-25 03:39:16 PM

Mixolydian Master: Nickelback is one of the only bands around these days where when I buy there album, put it on and know it's a safe bet that it will be good until the final note of the last song.


I find their music incredibly challenging, daring, yet ultimately rewarding. Many similarities to the Velvet Underground, I think.
 
ecl
2012-04-25 03:40:07 PM

Madbassist1: ecl: I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

That says more about you than it does them.


It says I get bored and enjoy harassing Kid Rock fans? My god I'm a MONSTER!
 
2012-04-25 03:40:37 PM

rickycal78: Sometimes I'm not sure about Gene. There's times when I think he takes himself too seriously, and others where I think he's just running with something and having a good time with it. Dude does seem to have a bit of an ego.


I agree, he's getting to Shatner-like level of being able to make fun of himself while still looking like an arrogant tool.
 
2012-04-25 03:41:32 PM

Killer Cars: Mixolydian Master: Nickelback is one of the only bands around these days where when I buy there album, put it on and know it's a safe bet that it will be good until the final note of the last song.

I find their music incredibly challenging, daring, yet ultimately rewarding. Many similarities to the Velvet Underground, I think.


Amen. Nickelback knocks my socks off.
 
2012-04-25 03:45:34 PM

Killer Cars: Mixolydian Master: Nickelback is one of the only bands around these days where when I buy there album, put it on and know it's a safe bet that it will be good until the final note of the last song.

I find their music incredibly challenging, daring, yet ultimately rewarding. Many similarities to the Velvet Underground, I think.


Velvet Underground couldn't carry Nickelback's equipment.
 
2012-04-25 03:45:48 PM

ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

That says more about you than it does them.

It says I get bored and enjoy harassing Kid Rock fans? My god I'm a MONSTER!


So your response to boredom is to troll folks that like what you don't. I dunno about a monster, but it certainly makes you kinda pathetic. Then again every now and then I like to troll folks that visit and post in the politics tab..
 
ecl
2012-04-25 03:47:25 PM

rickycal78: ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

That says more about you than it does them.

It says I get bored and enjoy harassing Kid Rock fans? My god I'm a MONSTER!

So your response to boredom is to troll folks that like what you don't. I dunno about a monster, but it certainly makes you kinda pathetic. Then again every now and then I like to troll folks that visit and post in the politics tab..


You're a MONSTER!!!!!!
kellexplainsitall.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-04-25 03:48:33 PM

Mixolydian Master: Exactly. I don't get the hate for Nickelback. I think it's just reflexive and "cool".


Maybe you just like Nickelback. It's your right. I know people who lose their sh*t when I tell them I have never cared for Weezer. Then I tell them my Rivers Cuomo being a fussy twat story and they lose their sh*t some more.
 
2012-04-25 03:49:05 PM
They are all pretty innocuous . . . certainly nothing to write home about . . .

But, it reminds me of this . . . (no it isn't a rick roll)

\\no good band since the Zombies
\*snerk*
 
2012-04-25 03:49:36 PM

babysealclubber: Velvet Underground couldn't carry Nickelback's equipment.


Literally.
 
2012-04-25 03:50:45 PM

Madbassist1: thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!


Foo Fighters have been there for a while. Frankly, though I don't really dislike the Foo Fighters, I don't really think they sound to wholly different from Nickelback, Creed, etc.. Maybe the Foos have better music taste, but it's generic "why doesn't rock music ROCK any more?" for people who have been out of the music loop for 20+ years.
 
2012-04-25 03:54:29 PM

escherblacksmith: They are all pretty innocuous . . . certainly nothing to write home about . . .

But, it reminds me of this . . . (no it isn't a rick roll)

\\no good band since the Zombies
\*snerk*


Ok, that video got a chuckle out of me. So many singers/musicians lift styles from previous acts out there it's ridiculous.
 
2012-04-25 03:56:51 PM

beta_plus: This whole thread:

[media.comicvine.com image 387x417]

/laughed out loud the first time I heard Rockstar
//Nickleback has a few OK songs


You can like what I don't like. Doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on it.

That opinion is that I think a random facebook pickle is better than Nickleback.

I thought Creed went away, didn't realize that they would come creeping back like a herpes sore.
 
2012-04-25 03:57:29 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Foo Fighters have been there for a while.


You're right. I've been in denial. I should have realized it by the way I reflexively turn them off as soon as they come on. Also other bands are going out of their way to sound like them (Avenged Sevenfold, anyone?)
 
2012-04-25 03:58:28 PM

ecl: rickycal78: ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

That says more about you than it does them.

It says I get bored and enjoy harassing Kid Rock fans? My god I'm a MONSTER!

So your response to boredom is to troll folks that like what you don't. I dunno about a monster, but it certainly makes you kinda pathetic. Then again every now and then I like to troll folks that visit and post in the politics tab..

You're a MONSTER!!!!!!
[kellexplainsitall.files.wordpress.com image 600x341]


What can I say, I'm lazy and like to go for the REALLY low hanging fruit. Thankfully it's somewhat rare that I go troll those folks, just visiting the politics tab makes me feel like I wallowed around in shiat. Actually opening a politics thread and posting in it makes me feel like one of the stars of two girls one cup.
 
2012-04-25 03:59:04 PM
Top Pizzarock bands:

Creed
Nickleback
Disturbed
Limp Bizket
Linkin Park
Godsmack
Staind
Korn
Kid Rock
3 Doors Down
 
2012-04-25 03:59:42 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Foo Fighters have been there for a while. Frankly, though I don't really dislike the Foo Fighters, I don't really think they sound to wholly different from Nickelback, Creed, etc.. Maybe the Foos have better music taste, but it's generic "why doesn't rock music ROCK any more?" for people who have been out of the music loop for 20+ years.


I am really liking Foster the People, actually. They got me back into radio. Also--I think it's 105.3--the Philly/Jersey classic rock channel is f*cking awesome.
 
2012-04-25 04:00:41 PM

El Brujo: Top Pizzarock bands:

Creed
Nickleback
Disturbed
Limp Bizket
Linkin Park
Godsmack
Staind
Korn
Kid Rock
3 Doors Down


Now that's what you call bait.
 
2012-04-25 04:01:01 PM
FTFA: "I did not do this because I particularly like or dislike either band. I did it because other people like and dislike them so much"

It must really suck having a life where your make your choices based not on what you want to do, but on what other people feel about a subject.

Stopped reading there because I pitied the author of the article too much already.
 
2012-04-25 04:01:13 PM

El Brujo: Top Pizzarock bands:

Creed
Nickleback
Disturbed
Limp Bizket
Linkin Park
Godsmack
Staind
Korn
Kid Rock
3 Doors Down


Reads like a beer pong date rape mixtape.

/liked Korn though. Reminds me of late 1990s strip clubs
 
2012-04-25 04:04:27 PM

SpoilerAlert: It must really suck having a life where your make your choices based not on what you want to do, but on what other people feel about a subject.


I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life. How's sophomore year going?
 
2012-04-25 04:08:24 PM

thamike: I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life.


You can get off his dick now. He paid you your 5 bucks.
 
2012-04-25 04:08:38 PM

El Brujo: Top Pizzarock bands:

Creed
Nickleback
Disturbed
Limp Bizket
Linkin Park
Godsmack
Staind
Korn
Kid Rock
3 Doors Down


Good point.

I actually put Nickleback at the top of that list of listenability. Linkin Park at the bottom.
 
ecl
2012-04-25 04:09:07 PM

thamike: SpoilerAlert: It must really suck having a life where your make your choices based not on what you want to do, but on what other people feel about a subject.

I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life. How's sophomore year going?


Ha.
 
2012-04-25 04:09:54 PM

MDGeist: I like both Nickleback and Creed, I think both are really good bands.


7/10 - refreshingly simple and amusing.
 
2012-04-25 04:13:01 PM

Madbassist1: thamike: I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life.

You can get off his dick now. He paid you your 5 bucks.


FloydA wrote this?
 
2012-04-25 04:20:09 PM
How could you even tell when they changed bands?
 
2012-04-25 04:20:58 PM

El Brujo: Top Pizzarock bands:

Creed
Nickleback
Disturbed
Limp Bizket
Linkin Park
Godsmack
Staind
Korn
Kid Rock
3 Doors Down


I'm like you, when I read a band list like that I can just feel the sickness rising in me, but I still like to keep my eyes wide open to other peoples taste in music. Some folks go over board with the hate, I just don't know when all that butt hurt turns into hating, but sometimes that shiat goes way too far. There's difference of opinion and then there's just crying like a biatch. I like AC/DC and ZZ Top, 'cause I'm a loser like that, but I can understand others not liking them. It's been awhile since I've been that invested into music I guess, I mean in the end, does it really even matter? I guess we'll just keep on acting like animals.
 
2012-04-25 04:29:07 PM

thamike: I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life. How's sophomore year going?


OH MAN, WICKED BURN
 
2012-04-25 04:33:51 PM

SpoilerAlert: thamike: I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life. How's sophomore year going?

OH MAN, WICKED BURN


Just giving you a warm welcome to Fark.
 
2012-04-25 04:46:56 PM

El Brujo: Top Pizzarock bands:

Creed
Nickleback
Disturbed
Limp Bizket
Linkin Park
Godsmack
Staind
Korn
Kid Rock
3 Doors Down


KISS
ACDC
Van Halen
Def Leppard
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
Motorhead
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Buck Cherry

Your list missed a few. Hell I probably missed a few.
 
2012-04-25 04:47:13 PM
I'm over hating Creed and Nickelback. Creed's best days are behind them and playing a theater shows it. I could care less about them. Nickelback's music I don't really like, but it amazes me how they just manage to be everywhere, all the time, and it's been over ten years now. They just never go away or stop.
 
2012-04-25 04:48:03 PM

thamike: SpoilerAlert: thamike: I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life. How's sophomore year going?

OH MAN, WICKED BURN

Just giving you a warm welcome to Fark.


Thank you, I'm glad you reminded me of what I really am. They obviously must give that totalfark tag to the brightest and wittiest commenters on this site.
 
2012-04-25 04:51:50 PM

Strategeryz0r:
KISS
ACDC
Van Halen
Def Leppard
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
Motorhead
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Buck Cherry

Your list missed a few. Hell I probably missed a few.


Not Pizzarock
 
2012-04-25 04:57:56 PM

El Brujo: Strategeryz0r:
KISS
ACDC
Van Halen
Def Leppard
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
Motorhead
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Buck Cherry

Your list missed a few. Hell I probably missed a few.

Not Pizzarock


Nickelback-y enough to count. Where do you think they got their sound? From the Strip Club pioneers that came before them. ACDC is as one note as Nickelback is, yet everyone adores them.
 
2012-04-25 04:59:09 PM
The singer brings a bottle of Jameson onto the stage, but he doesn't take a swig until after the last song.

Oh, how I hate cockgoblins who use good liquor as fashion accessories.
 
2012-04-25 05:00:48 PM
I know this article isn't about Incubus, but I have to say that I really hate Incubus more than any of the bands listed in this thread.
 
2012-04-25 05:03:07 PM

Strategeryz0r: El Brujo: Top Pizzarock bands:

Creed
Nickleback
Disturbed
Limp Bizket
Linkin Park
Godsmack
Staind
Korn
Kid Rock
3 Doors Down

KISS
ACDC
Van Halen
Def Leppard
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
Motorhead
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Buck Cherry

Your list missed a few. Hell I probably missed a few.


Fark you for including Judas Priest and Motorhead on there. Those are two solid early metal bands. Priest has been putting out amazing records for 40 years. I just saw them on their Epitaph tour and Halford is still amazing. The rest can DIAF though
 
2012-04-25 05:04:35 PM
There are a lot of people in this thread that say people just hate Nickelback just because it's cool to hate them. Let me put forth another perspective. Every time I listen to the radio and a Nickelback song comes on, I am shocked by how much I don't like it. Every song of theirs that I've heard (by no means an exhaustive list) is, in my opinion, plodding, humorless, lowest-common-denominator awfulness. And I like rock music, or used to. The most straight-ahead rock band that I have liked recently is The Joy Formidable, if that gives you any sort of barometer.
 
2012-04-25 05:06:51 PM
It's one thing to not like something, or even hate it, but it's a bit suspect to purposely go do that thing just so you can complain about it later.

also, your favorite band sucks.
 
2012-04-25 05:08:21 PM

Points_For_Effort: opinion, plodding, humorless, lowest-common-denominator awfulness


'Rockstar' is not humorless. It's a pretty damn good song until it was driven into the ground and all semblance of life remorselessly sucked out of it by AOR vampires.
 
2012-04-25 05:14:36 PM
Rock bands I hate just for the hell of it: Buck Cherry & Nickleback for being sexist scumbags, Limp Bizkit for making terrible music (love me some Wes Borland though), Korn and Staind for making every mainstream band since 1998 write angsty lyrics, Creed for being so bland, Linkin Park for continuing rap rock, Van Halen for being such technically good musicians but terrible song writers (They should have named all their songs "songs for strippers"), any 80s hair metal in general including Guns N Roses, Def Leppard for writing stupidly catchy but horrible songs, and KISS for showing the world that you can have no talent but still be professional musicians as long as you can see your image.
 
2012-04-25 05:15:53 PM

Syllabic: babysealclubber: Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.

Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.

Jack White is untalented as far as guitarists or singers go. I also don't really like his songwriting. People give him more credit than he's due because Rolling Stone has been sucking his dick for 10 years.


What?!
 
2012-04-25 05:16:30 PM

Madbassist1: thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!


You are the definition of a hipster. Hating something because lots of other people like it is beyond stupid.
 
2012-04-25 05:17:57 PM

Points_For_Effort: There are a lot of people in this thread that say people just hate Nickelback just because it's cool to hate them. Let me put forth another perspective. Every time I listen to the radio and a Nickelback song comes on, I am shocked by how much I don't like it. Every song of theirs that I've heard (by no means an exhaustive list) is, in my opinion, plodding, humorless, lowest-common-denominator awfulness. And I like rock music, or used to. The most straight-ahead rock band that I have liked recently is The Joy Formidable, if that gives you any sort of barometer.


I think many people wouldn't dislike them so much if rock stations wouldn't just cycle through their singles and the singles of bands that sound like them constantly. I just listen to classic rock radio (when I listen to radio) now since they don't just play the same ten bands on a loop.
 
2012-04-25 05:18:29 PM

Strategeryz0r: ACDC is as one note as Nickelback is, yet everyone adores them.


Yes, but that's because we were never subjected to their later music like we have with Nickelback's each 'new' album. Does anyone even sing along to anything after Back in Black?
 
2012-04-25 05:18:34 PM

rickycal78: ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

That says more about you than it does them.

It says I get bored and enjoy harassing Kid Rock fans? My god I'm a MONSTER!

So your response to boredom is to troll folks that like what you don't. I dunno about a monster, but it certainly makes you kinda pathetic. Then again every now and then I like to troll folks that visit and post in the politics tab..


Pathetic? Pathological.
 
2012-04-25 05:20:34 PM
Pizzarock has little to do with strip clubs or the heshers of old. Pizzarock is an ethos. Pizzarock is about not giving a shiat that I'm 50 lbs overweight, loud pipes save lives. Pizzarock is about this fu*kin' goatee and kicking your ass, cuz this music kicks ass. Pizzarock is Florida of the mind.
 
2012-04-25 05:23:34 PM
My "cool story bro" story of the day:

One of the coolest, happiest, and in-demand bands I ever knew were -- no shiat -- a western swing dance band in the vein of Asleep at the Wheel. I mean, these guys (and gal) were constantly working, and had the most rabid fan base I've ever seen. And not just bluehairs -- they drew quite a few of the young 'uns to the clubs and dancehalls they played at. They've been doing the gig for twenty years, and can probably go on for twenty more. I love watching them not so much because I love the music (though I do) but because I love they way they do it: they're great musicians and they always put on a great show. They're pros.

The musicians all knew that they weren't creating art. Hell, half of them weren't even particular fans of the swing/jazz genre. But they loved playing music and wanted to do it for a living, and because they were pros, they brought their A game to every show. They weren't the best of friends, but they all liked each other and respected each other. They had fun, but they also had personal lives apart from the band. They had wives, kids, non-music-world friends, and all the rest. They've learned to have separate identities from their musical world.

I enjoy playing the "your band sucks" game as much as anyone else, but ultimately, as a listener, it just boils down to which sounds tickle my brain in just the right way. I also find that some bands and performers can impress the hell out of me without necessarily playing music that I "like" (Jack White is one of these). And to me live shows always trump recordings: I'll almost always give a band a chance live, even if I wouldn't buy their CD.

I'd go to see a Jack White show for the same reason I'd go to see a Mel Torme show: I like to watch musical pros do their work. I get the listener's pleasure of hearing good music along with the craftman's pleasure of seeing a job well-done.
 
2012-04-25 05:26:44 PM

Points_For_Effort: There are a lot of people in this thread that say people just hate Nickelback just because it's cool to hate them. Let me put forth another perspective. Every time I listen to the radio and a Nickelback song comes on, I am shocked by how much I don't like it. Every song of theirs that I've heard (by no means an exhaustive list) is, in my opinion, plodding, humorless, lowest-common-denominator awfulness. And I like rock music, or used to. The most straight-ahead rock band that I have liked recently is The Joy Formidable, if that gives you any sort of barometer.


After checking out a few of Joy Formidable's songs on youtube I gotta say your barometer sucks. They just seem bland, and the songs seem to lack any kind of real energy, power or strong emotion to them. Nothing about any of the 4-5 videos I checked out makes me want to pick up an instrument and try to learn to play it which is my personal barometer for rock music.

ModernPrimitive01: Rock bands I hate just for the hell of it: Buck Cherry & Nickleback for being sexist scumbags, Limp Bizkit for making terrible music (love me some Wes Borland though), Korn and Staind for making every mainstream band since 1998 write angsty lyrics, Creed for being so bland, Linkin Park for continuing rap rock, Van Halen for being such technically good musicians but terrible song writers (They should have named all their songs "songs for strippers"), any 80s hair metal in general including Guns N Roses, Def Leppard for writing stupidly catchy but horrible songs, and KISS for showing the world that you can have no talent but still be professional musicians as long as you can see your image.


Exactly how old are you? Angsty lyrics have been a staple of various forms of rock since rock has existed. And you can go straight to hell for the 80's hair metal comments. Stuff like that was what made the 80s bearable.
 
2012-04-25 05:26:58 PM
I will agree with the triplet that Incubus is the most boring band I've ever seen. I literally sat down and fell asleep.
 
2012-04-25 05:37:27 PM

Geotpf: Madbassist1: thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!

You are the definition of a hipster. Hating something because lots of other people like it is beyond stupid.


And you're an idiot. I don't hate it because everyone likes it. I hate it because I can't turn on the farking radio without having someone asking is someone else is getting the best of me, or telling me that one of these days, or if I'm farking wasting light.

nice try tho.
 
2012-04-25 05:48:46 PM
Not a Nickleback fan, but not a hater either. I did like the videos for "Saving Me" and "If Everyone Cared".

Scott Stapp, on the other hand, can suck big floppy donkey dick. He tries too hard to sound like Eddie Vedder fronting Journey and has a huge Messiah complex. He got sued by his fans for sh*tty concerts and made an ass of himself on TV while trying to pick up Howard Stern's fiance.
 
2012-04-25 05:54:34 PM

ModernPrimitive01: Fark you for including Judas Priest and Motorhead on there. Those are two solid early metal bands. Priest has been putting out amazing records for 40 years. I just saw them on their Epitaph tour and Halford is still amazing. The rest can DIAF though


I was going to say something similar. Two of these things are not like the others...
 
ecl
2012-04-25 05:57:04 PM

Mixmastery: rickycal78: ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

That says more about you than it does them.

It says I get bored and enjoy harassing Kid Rock fans? My god I'm a MONSTER!

So your response to boredom is to troll folks that like what you don't. I dunno about a monster, but it certainly makes you kinda pathetic. Then again every now and then I like to troll folks that visit and post in the politics tab..

Pathetic? Pathological


Derp it up.
 
2012-04-25 05:58:15 PM

ecl: Derp it up. Fuzzball


FTFY
 
2012-04-25 05:58:18 PM
It's like there's a lot of rock music being made by middle-aged white guys that sounds just like every other song made by middle-aged white guys. And all of it completely fails to make any kind of impact on me. The music just washes over me and I don't even notice it. That shocks me. Not the music, but the fact that there are people making loud music with all the elements of rock music yet it is completely incapable of evoking any kind of response from me. Like one of these bands' songs could be on right now, and I literally would not notice that music was playing. It is amazing that music this (spiritually? emotionally?) empty exists.
 
2012-04-25 06:11:49 PM
Strategeryz0r:

KISS - Horrible in 1976, horrible in 1981, even worse now
ACDC - One idea band, but dammit, that idea might be the best idea ever
Van Halen - First two albums rock, then the drugs, maaaaaaan
Def Leppard - Made metal power ballads popular, so they can DIAF
Bon Jovi - Two good songs (Livin on a Prayer, Wanted Dead or Alive)
Aerosmith - What? Great band until ca. 1977, the 90's stuff sucks
Motorhead - No. Just: no.
Judas Priest - Great band, kept metal alive during the punk years
Foreigner - Ewwwwww I wanna know what punching you in the throat is
Buck Cherry - LOL wut?
 
2012-04-25 06:21:03 PM
s3-ec.buzzfed.com

"They really are pure talent" said sophomore John Doe " I only hope that one day I can be as talented as Chad and the boys."

If you can't take John Doe's word for it, I don't know what to tell you. This thread is full of haters, on the greatest band since Led Zeppelin.

images4.fanpop.com
 
2012-04-25 06:26:44 PM

Madbassist1: Geotpf: Madbassist1: thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!

You are the definition of a hipster. Hating something because lots of other people like it is beyond stupid.

And you're an idiot. I don't hate it because everyone likes it. I hate it because I can't turn on the farking radio without having someone asking is someone else is getting the best of me, or telling me that one of these days, or if I'm farking wasting light.

nice try tho.


Ok, fine. You hate them because the guys who control what gets played on the radio likes to play them a lot.

Still dumb.
 
2012-04-25 06:32:43 PM
The collective animosity toward these five artists far outweighs their multiplatinum success; if you anthologized the three best songs from each of these respective groups, you'd have an outstanding 15-track album that people would bury in their backyards.

I giggled.

My problem with Creed and Nickelback has always been the vocals. The lead singers sound like they're trying to sing and take a massive dump at the same time.
 
2012-04-25 06:34:23 PM
everyone thought Creed was piggybacking on the mainstream success of Pearl Jam. That's what turned everyone against them. That's why they got punished.

Funny, I hate Pearl Jam, too.
 
2012-04-25 06:34:30 PM
www.sadanduseless.com
 
2012-04-25 06:35:53 PM
Every concert ends with a standing ovation

Wait, why is a rock band playing in a venue where people are sitting down??
 
2012-04-25 06:39:22 PM

Mixolydian Master: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 600x452]

"They really are pure talent" said sophomore John Doe " I only hope that one day I can be as talented as Chad and the boys."

If you can't take John Doe's word for it, I don't know what to tell you. This thread is full of haters, on the greatest band since Led Zeppelin.

[images4.fanpop.com image 200x100]


Indeed. They are the greatest band Canada has ever produced.
 
2012-04-25 06:51:04 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Mixolydian Master: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 600x452]

"They really are pure talent" said sophomore John Doe " I only hope that one day I can be as talented as Chad and the boys."

If you can't take John Doe's word for it, I don't know what to tell you. This thread is full of haters, on the greatest band since Led Zeppelin.

[images4.fanpop.com image 200x100]

Indeed. They are the greatest band Canada has ever produced.


Agreed.

I'd like to do a little number by a band that is vastly superior to us.

oi47.tinypic.com

you can't argue with that
 
2012-04-25 06:52:44 PM

ecl: rickycal78: babysealclubber: Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.

Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.

Talented maybe, but he still plays shiatty unlistenable music.

ecl:

Cry more Kid Rock.

LOL the shiat people here on Fark remember from months ago. I can't believe I made enough of a lasting impression on someone that they remember me saying Kid Rock makes some decent music in some Fark thread months ago.

This entire thread reeks of folks hating on things because it's popular and acceptable to do so and it gives them something to interact with others about. There's a lot of music out there I don't like, but there's not a single band or musician/artist/whatever that I just absolutely hate, except maybe Gary Glitter, but that's due to the child pron more than his music.

I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.


I think YOU think way too much about Kid Rock.
 
2012-04-25 07:09:19 PM

Mixolydian Master: Ow! That was my feelings!: Mixolydian Master: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 600x452]

"They really are pure talent" said sophomore John Doe " I only hope that one day I can be as talented as Chad and the boys."

If you can't take John Doe's word for it, I don't know what to tell you. This thread is full of haters, on the greatest band since Led Zeppelin.

[images4.fanpop.com image 200x100]

Indeed. They are the greatest band Canada has ever produced.

Agreed.

I'd like to do a little number by a band that is vastly superior to us.

[oi47.tinypic.com image 600x373]

you can't argue with that


well, I can't argue with that, but these guys can...
static.rhap.com
 
2012-04-25 07:14:55 PM
i0.kym-cdn.comi0.kym-cdn.comi0.kym-cdn.comi0.kym-cdn.comi0.kym-cdn.com



/Goddamn butt-rock bands
 
2012-04-25 07:32:48 PM
"If I like a band, I like a band. I've seen Creed six times. They're never boring. Never. And I've seen a lot of boring shows from other people." I ask her what bands have been boring. Her instantaneous response is Incubus.

At least she qualified her opinion as worthless immediately after giving it.

What a boring incubus concert may look like
 
2012-04-25 07:53:25 PM

SpoilerAlert: thamike: SpoilerAlert: thamike: I think it's more what he does at his writing job rather than his entire meaning of life. How's sophomore year going?

OH MAN, WICKED BURN

Just giving you a warm welcome to Fark.

Thank you, I'm glad you reminded me of what I really am. They obviously must give that totalfark tag to the brightest and wittiest commenters on this site.


I meant it in earnest. Some guy gave me a month of TF two days ago because I made him laugh about something. Seriously, Welcome To Fark. I'm glad you are here.
 
2012-04-25 08:19:30 PM

ununcle: I like Creed. The hate on Stap is pretty much because he was openly Christian. Nickleback however, does nothing for me.


Nah, the hate on Stapp was because he was a self-important, sanctimonious, belligerent, prick.


That said, I enjoy Nickelback and Creed's music for what it is.

/Still prefer D.T. any day
 
2012-04-25 08:24:13 PM
First concert I ever attended was Sevendust, Nickelback and Creed.

2000 San Jose State Event Center.. I was a young and foolish one back then...
 
2012-04-25 08:28:53 PM

Godscrack: I'd rather see Hole open for Tool.


img2.bdbphotos.com
Dafuq you say?
 
2012-04-25 08:31:43 PM

SirTanon: for what it is.


And that would be...
 
2012-04-25 08:32:59 PM

Snapper Carr: Creed might be tolerable (note - I didn't say good, I said tolerable) without Scott Stapp

I can't see a way of improving Nickelback except maybe

[i1127.photobucket.com image 480x288]


Creed - Scott Stapp + Myles Kennedy. Link. What have we learned today children? Myles Kennedy can make Creed not suck and does a better Axl Rose than Axl Rose can do anymore.
 
2012-04-25 08:40:46 PM

sigdiamond2000: Repeat from the redlit thread yesterday: The only thing that could possibly be worse than attending a Creed/Nickleback show is reading a Chuck Klosterman article about it.


NINDroog: I'd rather stay at home and bash myself in the testicles with a ball-peen hammer than go to either of those concerts or read a Klosterman article



Odd. I'd somehow managed to go through life without stumbling onto anything Klosterman wrote until just now, and I came in here to mention that I enjoyed reading the essay and I look forward to checking out other things he's written.

Based on this one piece he sounds stereotypically Generation X to an extreme, but I've enjoyed that navel-gazing shiat ever since that cohort started getting writing gigs. And maybe he's pretending he's essayist-DFW a little bit, but that's okay as long as he doesn't start going nuts with the footnotes.
 
2012-04-25 08:47:39 PM
Footnotes is college shiat.
 
ecl
2012-04-25 08:52:38 PM

Mixmastery: ecl: rickycal78: babysealclubber: Madbassist1: Good lord, get over yourself. You have all those reasons they suck in your post, then list the White Stripes as one of your favorite bands. fark off, you hate em because its hip to do so, that's all.

I hate em because I cant turn on my radio without hearing them. At least that's valid.

Oh yes, because Jack White is so untalented. It's okay, you like a shiatty band. I love Journey.

Talented maybe, but he still plays shiatty unlistenable music.

ecl:

Cry more Kid Rock.

LOL the shiat people here on Fark remember from months ago. I can't believe I made enough of a lasting impression on someone that they remember me saying Kid Rock makes some decent music in some Fark thread months ago.

This entire thread reeks of folks hating on things because it's popular and acceptable to do so and it gives them something to interact with others about. There's a lot of music out there I don't like, but there's not a single band or musician/artist/whatever that I just absolutely hate, except maybe Gary Glitter, but that's due to the child pron more than his music.

I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

I think YOU think way too much about Kid Rock.


I think YOU don't think about too much at all.

/end charachter assassination.
 
ecl
2012-04-25 09:02:21 PM

Geotpf: Madbassist1: Geotpf: Madbassist1: thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!

You are the definition of a hipster. Hating something because lots of other people like it is beyond stupid.

And you're an idiot. I don't hate it because everyone likes it. I hate it because I can't turn on the farking radio without having someone asking is someone else is getting the best of me, or telling me that one of these days, or if I'm farking wasting light.

nice try tho.

Ok, fine. You hate them because the guys who control what gets played on the radio likes to play them a lot.

Still dumb.


QFT
 
2012-04-25 11:12:32 PM

phaseolus: Odd. I'd somehow managed to go through life without stumbling onto anything Klosterman wrote until just now, and I came in here to mention that I enjoyed reading the essay and I look forward to checking out other things he's written.


He's completely self-absorbed and thinks he's setting trends when he comments about trends that are already in place around him. I encourage you to read him more, but I am inclined to agree with sigdiamond2000.
 
2012-04-26 01:30:29 AM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-04-26 01:40:40 AM
Nickelback is like alizee or new kids on the block - orchestrated, bland, corporate pop that's so carefully calculated to fit its demographic that it's practically neutered musically. And, unlike alizee, there's no sexy dance to distract from that fact. Or, the guilt of feeling vaguely like a pedo admittedly. Instead, with nickelback, you feel like the pre-teen with an IQ level to match.
 
2012-04-26 08:13:43 AM

Geotpf: Madbassist1: Geotpf: Madbassist1: thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!

You are the definition of a hipster. Hating something because lots of other people like it is beyond stupid.

And you're an idiot. I don't hate it because everyone likes it. I hate it because I can't turn on the farking radio without having someone asking is someone else is getting the best of me, or telling me that one of these days, or if I'm farking wasting light.

nice try tho.

Ok, fine. You hate them because the guys who control what gets played on the radio likes to play them a lot.

Still dumb.


no it isn't. Why would that be dumb? The military does the same thing in Gitmo and it works wonders. Keep talking tho. you're doing a good job of showing who the dumbass is.
 
ecl
2012-04-26 08:39:17 AM

Madbassist1: Geotpf: Madbassist1: Geotpf: Madbassist1: thamike:
I didn't get that off either of them. And objectively, both bands suck to the point that--even if someone likes them--their suckiness being a foregone conclusion isn't coming from the pretentious side. It's not even their music. Take Limp Bizkit, for example. Talented guitarist, but Limp Bizkit sucks. Sucking is an all encompassing artform. It's almost intangible. Scott Stapp makes Creed suck. And Creed could be any other heavy radio rotation band if not for Scott Stapp.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I think Creed sucks simply BECAUSE they're a heavy radio rotation band. That's all it needs for me. I've seen a lot of bands go from meh to suck because of the farking radio. I hate to say it, because I think I'd like the dude, personally, but the goddamned foo fighters are headed down that pit right now for me at damn near lightspeed.

GOOD LORD KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE farkING FOOS, ALREADY!!!!

You are the definition of a hipster. Hating something because lots of other people like it is beyond stupid.

And you're an idiot. I don't hate it because everyone likes it. I hate it because I can't turn on the farking radio without having someone asking is someone else is getting the best of me, or telling me that one of these days, or if I'm farking wasting light.

nice try tho.

Ok, fine. You hate them because the guys who control what gets played on the radio likes to play them a lot.

Still dumb.

no it isn't. Why would that be dumb? The military does the same thing in Gitmo and it works wonders. Keep talking tho. you're doing a good job of showing who the dumbass is.


You?
 
2012-04-26 08:59:37 AM
I'm from Tallahassee Florida, you know, the town that gave the world Creed AND T-Pain. So if you think your life is a living hell then think again buster! To make matters worse, Tally used to have a cool alternative/punk scene in the 80's and 90's. I was in a couple of bands at that time and there was a place to play most any weekend. Now there are very few places in town that hire all orginal acts that play any style of music. Plus I'm old now.
 
2012-04-26 09:14:09 AM
Eh, Nickelback...Creed.... Can't we all agree that it's Train we should all be hating on?
 
2012-04-26 09:14:56 AM

stupiddream: I'm from Tallahassee Florida, you know, the town that gave the world Creed AND T-Pain. So if you think your life is a living hell then think again buster! To make matters worse, Tally used to have a cool alternative/punk scene in the 80's and 90's. I was in a couple of bands at that time and there was a place to play most any weekend. Now there are very few places in town that hire all orginal acts that play any style of music. Plus I'm old now.


Florida tag?
 
2012-04-26 11:11:05 AM

ecl:
no it isn't. Why would that be dumb? The military does the same thing in Gitmo and it works wonders. Keep talking tho. you're doing a good job of showing who the dumbass is.

You?


Ok, Einstein, explain to me how disliking something that you are forced to digest multiple times, eventually against your will, is dumb. Please. It's like pizza. You might like it, but if you have to eat the shiat every day, three times a day, eventually you're going to dislike it. It's human nature, now explain to me how that is dumb, you pompous ass.
 
ecl
2012-04-26 11:53:46 AM
www.forteforums.com


You don't like pizza?
 
2012-04-26 12:31:42 PM
I don't really have an opinion on their music either way (for both bands) but I have met Scott Stapp a few times. He lives near me and our sons played little league (back whe it was boca raton youth baseball) together.

he is a foul mouthed dude. never heard a parent curse so much on the bleachers. probably had five skoal bandits in. his wife/girlfriend kept telling him to calm down. this was the one he had recently been arrested for slapping around.

i admit...i liked hootie. there were a couple of songs on each album that i liked...not necessarily the hits but there were a few. i like a wide range of music. classical, jazz, blues, classic rock, country, western swing, thrash metal, prog metal, and more. my wife hates listening to my ipod in the car because it can go from john denver to slayer to toby keith to rush or john coltrane in a short span of time.
 
2012-04-26 01:06:05 PM

ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?


That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass
 
2012-04-26 01:06:58 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: i admit...i liked hootie


'Time' is a great song.
 
2012-04-26 01:10:34 PM

Madbassist1: ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?

That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass


You need pizza. Pizza is happiness.
 
2012-04-26 01:19:58 PM

thamike: Madbassist1: ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?

That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass

You need pizza. Pizza is happiness.


When I was a teenager I worked at a pizza hut. It took YEARS to start liking pizza again at all, and I still won't eat pizza hut almost 30yrs later.
 
2012-04-26 01:27:31 PM

Madbassist1: thamike: Madbassist1: ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?

That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass

You need pizza. Pizza is happiness.

When I was a teenager I worked at a pizza hut. It took YEARS to start liking pizza again at all, and I still won't eat pizza hut almost 30yrs later.


Pizza Hut doesn't make pizza. Pizza hut makes nightclown feed.
 
2012-04-26 02:46:41 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Mixolydian Master: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 600x452]

"They really are pure talent" said sophomore John Doe " I only hope that one day I can be as talented as Chad and the boys."

If you can't take John Doe's word for it, I don't know what to tell you. This thread is full of haters, on the greatest band since Led Zeppelin.

[images4.fanpop.com image 200x100]

Indeed. They are the greatest band Canada has ever produced.


Canada has produced all sorts of amazing music...

/Give me an 'R'!!!!
 
2012-04-26 03:37:58 PM
ecl: rickycal78: babysealclubber: Madbassist1:

I flagged everyone who was defending Kid C*ck so don't feel too special.

Wow, did he shiat in your cheerios once, or rape your dog and kill your sister or something? Flagging people for defending a famous musician? Does it really mean that much to you that you feel the need to have a reminder of it?


Flagging is for How I'm Reminded of Everyone In This Thread..
 
ecl
2012-04-26 04:50:05 PM

Madbassist1: ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?

That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass


You don't make a lot of sense so no I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over how you have the power to not eat pizza while working at a place or turn the radio all the way off if you don't like the song on any station. That's how a mature adult handles those situations. They don't hate pizza and hate the songs on the radio.

/retard
 
2012-04-26 09:06:02 PM
I came up with a genre for bands like Nickelback and Creed.

"Smooth Grunge"

but pizzarock works too.
 
2012-04-26 09:14:48 PM
ugh. look at that farking guy up there. this reminds me of 2 reasons why most reasonable people hate both nickelback and creed.

reason #1:
media.canada.com

reason #2:
cdn.buzznet.com
 
2012-04-27 12:50:18 AM

MattyFridays: It's funny. This entire thread is what I expected when Klosterman wrote it. People hate for the sake of hating without weighing merits, etc.

There's no logical discourse, it's just that one person says they suck and another person agrees with it because it's "cool" to do so without any reasoning behind it.

Case in point: Justin Beiber. I don't *hate* Justin Beiber. He has done nothing wrong to earn my ire, other than be a popular pop singer. There are people who do like him. So why should I fault those people?

One of my favorite bands is basically a reformation of a 90's one hit wonder. (Refreshments -> Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers). I'm not going to fault anyone who DOESN'T like them, if it's not their thing, but Nickleback sells out arenas. I just don't get it.

Like what you like.


I appreciate your point of view... and thank you for reminding me about the Refreshments... I wore out Fizzy Fuzzy, etc when I was about 15, but I hadn't heard it since then, listening now... holy shiat. This is blowing my mind!
 
2012-04-27 09:15:40 AM

ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?

That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass

You don't make a lot of sense so no I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over how you have the power to not eat pizza while working at a place or turn the radio all the way off if you don't like the song on any station. That's how a mature adult handles those situations. They don't hate pizza and hate the songs on the radio.

/retard


You are being a deliberately obtuse dickweed. Saying instead of disliking the song, just turn off the radio...because you dont want to dislike the song, you just dont want to hear it, so since you don't want to hear the song to keep you from disliking it, you just deprive yourself of the entire experience? And I'm the one not making sense? That isnt how mature people handle things its how idiots handle things.

I don't think you're an idiot, I think you're just a dick backed into a corner by stubbornness and logical fallacy. Carry on, cocksucker.
 
ecl
2012-04-27 11:02:36 AM

Madbassist1: ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?

That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass

You don't make a lot of sense so no I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over how you have the power to not eat pizza while working at a place or turn the radio all the way off if you don't like the song on any station. That's how a mature adult handles those situations. They don't hate pizza and hate the songs on the radio.

/retard

You are being a deliberately obtuse dickweed. Saying instead of disliking the song, just turn off the radio...because you dont want to dislike the song, you just dont want to hear it, so since you don't want to hear the song to keep you from disliking it, you just deprive yourself of the entire experience? And I'm the one not making sense? That isnt how mature people handle things its how idiots handle things.

I don't think you're an idiot, I think you're just a dick backed into a corner by stubbornness and logical fallacy. Carry on, cocksucker.


Learn to live without the radio for 3 minutes at a time. Maybe you won't hate what's popular and we can stop pointing out that you're hipster scum.
 
2012-04-27 12:45:58 PM

ecl: Learn to live without the radio for 3 minutes at a time. Maybe you won't hate what's popular and we can stop pointing out that you're hipster scum.


oh for farks sake if I have to turn off the radio, why would I be doing that? Huh? WHY WOULD I NEED TO TURN OFF THE farkING RADIO, YOU STUPID ASS?

Just give up, dickhead.
 
2012-04-27 02:56:35 PM

ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: [www.forteforums.com image 319x243]


You don't like pizza?

That's what I thought. No real answer just inane blathering.

/dumbass

You don't make a lot of sense so no I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over how you have the power to not eat pizza while working at a place or turn the radio all the way off if you don't like the song on any station. That's how a mature adult handles those situations. They don't hate pizza and hate the songs on the radio.

/retard

You are being a deliberately obtuse dickweed. Saying instead of disliking the song, just turn off the radio...because you dont want to dislike the song, you just dont want to hear it, so since you don't want to hear the song to keep you from disliking it, you just deprive yourself of the entire experience? And I'm the one not making sense? That isnt how mature people handle things its how idiots handle things.

I don't think you're an idiot, I think you're just a dick backed into a corner by stubbornness and logical fallacy. Carry on, cocksucker.

Learn to live without the radio for 3 minutes at a time. Maybe you won't hate what's popular and we can stop pointing out that you're hipster scum.


You don't like cocksucking?
 
ecl
2012-04-27 03:06:00 PM

Madbassist1: ecl: Learn to live without the radio for 3 minutes at a time. Maybe you won't hate what's popular and we can stop pointing out that you're hipster scum.

oh for farks sake if I have to turn off the radio, why would I be doing that? Huh? WHY WOULD I NEED TO TURN OFF THE farkING RADIO, YOU STUPID ASS?

Just give up, dickhead.


I YIELD TO YOUR LACK OF LOGIC AND SURPLUS OF CAPS LOCK.
 
2012-04-27 06:41:48 PM
Owwwww!
Ain't never gonna quit. Ain't nothin' wrong with it. You're acting like you're animals (animals).
 
2012-04-28 07:22:07 AM

ecl: Madbassist1: ecl: Learn to live without the radio for 3 minutes at a time. Maybe you won't hate what's popular and we can stop pointing out that you're hipster scum.

oh for farks sake if I have to turn off the radio, why would I be doing that? Huh? WHY WOULD I NEED TO TURN OFF THE farkING RADIO, YOU STUPID ASS?

Just give up, dickhead.

I YIELD TO YOUR LACK OF LOGIC AND SURPLUS OF CAPS LOCK.


LOL Say it any way you like. It's not so much that I'm right as it is you're wrong. Also logic has nothing to do with your argument.
 
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