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2012-04-25 12:01:55 PM

DoBeDoBeDo:
I'm with This Looks Like Fun, if you said you were a good talent that threw mid 80s tops and the A's were worried about your mechanics or types of pitches I'd buy it. 90+ on a consistent basis at 18 with no good pitching coach is one in a million, no team is going to let that get away.


You would like to think that. But the 90's were a lot different than today for baseball, especially in Canada. The majority of the resources were directed at american and carribean players. Canada was an after thought. I am sure they had their own worries about if i could develope a consistent 3rd and 4th pitch (i had 2 strong pitches and was learning a third at the time, slider). Additionally like i said before, they had very limited opinions of the level of competition in canada and werent sure how it would translate into the american system.
 
2012-04-25 12:07:29 PM
man, this is such an informative thread, I always thought I was a pussy for topping out at like 52 on those speed gun things at fairs. seems I was the norm.
 
2012-04-25 12:19:36 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: NO ONE in single A ball is throwing 90+ consistently.


This is objectively false.
 
2012-04-25 12:40:27 PM
I probably couldnt throw over 60 when I played baseball in high school. I had always played second base in little league and usually short armed it so I had bad mechanics. I ended up moving to first base since I didnt have the range anymore for second. Though I spent most of my time eating sunflower seeds in the dugout. I got really good at that.

Quit after two years to focus on golf and was much happier.

Me and my girlfriend got lacrosse sticks to play catch with since neither of us are all that good at throwing a baseball. Now I wish my school had a lacrosse team when I was growing up. That shiat's fun.
 
2012-04-25 12:47:26 PM
I wish this idea would come back down to Florida, What I do is grab a 5lb bag of peanuts and throw them against my fence for three weeks (Feeding squirrels), then head over to the local fair or tigers baseball game.

The Fair has a game where you guess the speed of your third pitch - i usually can top out at 85/92 depending how conditioned my arm is, if I overthrow I can top out at 93, however I throw once a year to win stuffed animals or get free tickets. I usually don't overthrow and just give a clean hard throw and usually hit 88 three times in a row.

My Fav game is a wide screen projector where you stand on a pitching mount and have to strike a batter out, there are three levels to the game - first one little league, second high school and third majors.
They usually leave it on high school so its quite easy - two fast balls inside and changeup or curveball outside.

/Usually win 3 items then I can't play anymore, i just give em to kids around me heh.
 
2012-04-25 12:49:45 PM
shocking that nobody, with presumably no warm-up what-so-ever, cannot throw as hard as somebody who has completely warmed-up and then pitched a few innings in a game
 
2012-04-25 01:06:11 PM
I topped out at 100. I played MLB for a bunch of years and threw a number of no-hitters. I retired and now spend most of my time on Fark. Who am I? I'm Nolan Ryan, that's who.

Not Really. I topped out at 78 when I was 17. Wicked curve, though.
 
2012-04-25 01:11:30 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: If you were throwing mid 90's in HS you would have gone directly to AAA or AA ball not a single A pay your way league. A real pitching coach would have groomed you for the majors. At the very least you would have been offered a full ride to any number of D 1 colleges.


Not saying that poisonedpawn was throwing 90, but every year there are literally hundreds if not thousands of high school kids who can hit 90 on the gun. The old axiom in baseball is that the kid who throws 90 at age 18 will be throwing 80 at age 22.

Still, you are right that he probably would have been offered scholarships to several colleges if he could locate that 90 anywhere near the plate.
 
2012-04-25 01:12:27 PM

you have pee hands: There are way more than 5 18 year olds who can throw 90+. Probably thousands, at least. Most of them either can't locate their pitches or can't throw anything besides an arrow straight fastball. A guy with a 90mph fastball and nothing else will probably get college looks and someone might take a flyer on them in the late rounds of the draft (MLB has a 50 round draft, so getting drafted doesn't mean the same thing as it does in other sports) but odds are really high they'll flame out in the low minors.


Sure, there may be more. But name me a single high schooler in the last 20 years that was consistently pitching 90-94 that didn't merit a mention in SI and get drafted by some baseball team in one of their 50 rounds of silly drafts. It's big news. Scouts would have known, he would have been drafted long before a single-A club came out of nowhere to offer him to pay for his own contract. It's a silly story and exaggerated pretty much everywhere.
 
2012-04-25 01:15:52 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: i might not throw as fast as moyer, i bet my ERA would be lower of the season, before he goes on the DL


You know how I know you aren't paying any attention to baseball this season?

Jamie Moyer - 1-2, 2.28 ERA, 1.35 WHIP
 
2012-04-25 01:19:14 PM

This Looks Fun: you have pee hands: There are way more than 5 18 year olds who can throw 90+. Probably thousands, at least. Most of them either can't locate their pitches or can't throw anything besides an arrow straight fastball. A guy with a 90mph fastball and nothing else will probably get college looks and someone might take a flyer on them in the late rounds of the draft (MLB has a 50 round draft, so getting drafted doesn't mean the same thing as it does in other sports) but odds are really high they'll flame out in the low minors.

Sure, there may be more. But name me a single high schooler in the last 20 years that was consistently pitching 90-94 that didn't merit a mention in SI and get drafted by some baseball team in one of their 50 rounds of silly drafts. It's big news. Scouts would have known, he would have been drafted long before a single-A club came out of nowhere to offer him to pay for his own contract. It's a silly story and exaggerated pretty much everywhere.


And this is based on what expertise that you have in the area of mid 1990s canadian baseball highschoolers and the methods used by teams and colleges for recruitment into canada during this period?

By all means post your curriculum vitae for the mid 1990s.
 
2012-04-25 01:21:13 PM
I can still throw it faster than 99% of the human population, I am the 1%.
 
2012-04-25 01:22:28 PM
blog.nj.com
 
2012-04-25 01:23:12 PM
Ha, my buddy Todd works for the A's and has been there since 2002, and I asked him over gchat just now if there were any Canadian high schoolers that the team had their eye on in the early-mid 90s. He said that didn't ring any bells, but it's also not his area so that in and of itself doesn't mean anything. However, if any A's scouts ever went up to Canada to watch poisonedpawn, the team would have a record of it and he could look up the report that was filed.

So if poisonedpawn wants to give his name here, I could have it verified within 10 minutes if he is telling the truth or not.
 
2012-04-25 01:25:28 PM
Addition to the 90+ mph 18 y/o conversation:

My best friend's little brother started topping 90+ as a junior in HS. By his senior year, he sat around 90. However, he couldn't hit the broad side of the barn. He started getting private instruction and he got scouted at least once that I can remember. None of this helped, though. He didn't really love playing baseball (he prefers football, and he was also the best football player on the team, though I don't get the sense that his football prowess was quite as exceptional.)

None of this really mattered, anyway. He never even considered going pro out of high school. He got into his dream school planning on maybe playing, put on the freshman 50 (ok, more like 25 but still), and is currently a collar popping fratboy.

Their uncle was an early round draft pick by the Yankees in the 70's (maybe early 80's?) He flamed out early, too.

/csb
 
2012-04-25 01:30:02 PM

OtherLittleGuy: But that's okay because girls can never be anything more than softball pitchers because professional baseball pitchers can hit anything above what they can throw.

So they should just switch to beach volleyball so we have have our lesbian fantasies while looking at their thonged asses.

/amidoingitright?


Aren't people bored of the amidoingitright meme yet?
 
2012-04-25 01:33:06 PM
One more:

My first year back from college, I tested my velocity. I threw a cool 65. 5 years later, I could only must 50 mph. :/ (Said best friend has kept his fastball: a blazing 70 mph.)
 
2012-04-25 01:34:49 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Ha, my buddy Todd works for the A's and has been there since 2002, and I asked him over gchat just now if there were any Canadian high schoolers that the team had their eye on in the early-mid 90s. He said that didn't ring any bells, but it's also not his area so that in and of itself doesn't mean anything. However, if any A's scouts ever went up to Canada to watch poisonedpawn, the team would have a record of it and he could look up the report that was filed.

So if poisonedpawn wants to give his name here, I could have it verified within 10 minutes if he is telling the truth or not.


I knew a few that topped above 85 - I was easily throwing late 80s at 17-18 and a lefty, long story short I quit during fall ball my senior year - I had USC, Miami hurricanes and south carolina looking at me for baseball.
I was a starter since 7th grade for JV - a varsity player my sophmore year, but thrown into the bullpen my junior year because of my arm strength, problem was politics - it was between me and some kid who couldn't throw 70mph, but his dad was rich and his brother was a senior, I ended up quitting the team and walking away.
 
2012-04-25 01:46:08 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Ha, my buddy Todd works for the A's and has been there since 2002, and I asked him over gchat just now if there were any Canadian high schoolers that the team had their eye on in the early-mid 90s. He said that didn't ring any bells, but it's also not his area so that in and of itself doesn't mean anything. However, if any A's scouts ever went up to Canada to watch poisonedpawn, the team would have a record of it and he could look up the report that was filed.

So if poisonedpawn wants to give his name here, I could have it verified within 10 minutes if he is telling the truth or not.


While i appreciate the offer, I also have a few things i could scan and post to prove it. However the internet being "forever" and the amount of trolling in this thread is making me want to stay annon.

I was relaying a /csb semi related to the topic, Believe it or dont believe it. I dont care and dont need to win arguements on the internet.

Its not like im trying to claim fame here.. im claiming failure lol. i dont get whats so hard to believe about that. How many baseball players flame out every year for various reasons... probably tens of thousands who actually had a reasonable chance.

Either way. Cheers.
 
2012-04-25 01:46:24 PM

I sound fat: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: When Jamie retires I predict he will be throwing out the ceremonial first pitch at the Mariners next home opener. Seattle has this amazing soft spot for all their former heroes and fan favorites. And with ONE very notable exception always greet them back with cheers and fanfare, even if they are on the opposing team.

/because what else are we gonna get excited about?

If. IF Jamie retires....

This promotion is awesome. They should do this on a wider scale so people appreciate what they are watching more and maybe boo less.


Promotion is worthless. Let me guess, no warm up pitches for the contestants are given out. Because that is how pithchers are brought into games; without 100 plus warmup pitches.
 
2012-04-25 01:52:45 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Ha, my buddy Todd works for the A's and has been there since 2002, and I asked him over gchat just now if there were any Canadian high schoolers that the team had their eye on in the early-mid 90s. He said that didn't ring any bells, but it's also not his area so that in and of itself doesn't mean anything. However, if any A's scouts ever went up to Canada to watch poisonedpawn, the team would have a record of it and he could look up the report that was filed.

So if poisonedpawn wants to give his name here, I could have it verified within 10 minutes if he is telling the truth or not.


If it were a bird dog (i.e. not an A's employee) coming up to see poisonedpawn78, would your friend have any record?
 
2012-04-25 02:00:32 PM

SharkTrager: steamingpile: That depends on where the team is located at, in the south hou had st least one and sometimes most of the pitchers who threw 90+.

Could be it. Our coach was also a scout for the Dodgers, and the town is baseball crazy. They had kids move in just to play summer ball. It happened enough that they had to implement a rule about "imports" per team. There was one sponsor that started at age 8 and went all the way up through graduation keeping as many of the core players as they could on a single team.


Yeah I am responsible for lakeland and poll county in Florida instituting a rule stating you had to live there for more than half the year to play in their spring/summer leagues. I went to private schools so we got out early every year and I would only miss one or two games in their spring games and play their entire summer league. I would play with my cousin up here and we would go down there to play on our other cousins team, most years they would be average but once we got there they would end up winning almost every game.

Seems a few of the coaches got pretty pissed since we won their regional tournament for 3 years in a row. During that fourth year they had a new rule being voted on to limit it to Florida residents in their county. Didn't matter we just went to plant city to play there since we had cousins there as well and won a 5th and 6th.

I miss playing baseball but I'm sure my shoulder doesn't, I wont let them cut me open again unless my bicep tendon breaks. Shoulder surgery sucks.
 
2012-04-25 02:04:29 PM

This Looks Fun: Sure, there may be more. But name me a single high schooler in the last 20 years that was consistently pitching 90-94 that didn't merit a mention in SI and get drafted by some baseball team in one of their 50 rounds of silly drafts. It's big news. Scouts would have known, he would have been drafted long before a single-A club came out of nowhere to offer him to pay for his own contract. It's a silly story and exaggerated pretty much everywhere.


You're asking me for proof of a person who was never mentioned...?

The late rounds of the draft aren't really big news, because the large majority of guys aren't going to ever make it to the big leagues. I don't know how SI covers the baseball draft but they might not even list them all. With 750 guys on MLB rosters and 1500 drafted every year it's just a numbers game (a lot of them play college ball or another sport and don't sign at all, too). Also, the guy I was originally responding to said there were 5-ish 18 year olds in the world that threw that hard, which is way off.

poisoneddawn may well be exaggerating the 'glory days' but a 90mph fastball isn't in and of itself that rare.
 
2012-04-25 02:09:44 PM

steamingpile: SharkTrager: steamingpile: That depends on where the team is located at, in the south hou had st least one and sometimes most of the pitchers who threw 90+.

Could be it. Our coach was also a scout for the Dodgers, and the town is baseball crazy. They had kids move in just to play summer ball. It happened enough that they had to implement a rule about "imports" per team. There was one sponsor that started at age 8 and went all the way up through graduation keeping as many of the core players as they could on a single team.

Yeah I am responsible for lakeland and poll county in Florida instituting a rule stating you had to live there for more than half the year to play in their spring/summer leagues. I went to private schools so we got out early every year and I would only miss one or two games in their spring games and play their entire summer league. I would play with my cousin up here and we would go down there to play on our other cousins team, most years they would be average but once we got there they would end up winning almost every game.

Seems a few of the coaches got pretty pissed since we won their regional tournament for 3 years in a row. During that fourth year they had a new rule being voted on to limit it to Florida residents in their county. Didn't matter we just went to plant city to play there since we had cousins there as well and won a 5th and 6th.

I miss playing baseball but I'm sure my shoulder doesn't, I wont let them cut me open again unless my bicep tendon breaks. Shoulder surgery sucks.


Interesting where did you play in Lakeland? That rule started because half my Catholic high school ditched to play for Lakeland Senior High, after Coach Carpenter left I bailed to Lakeland myself.
 
2012-04-25 02:14:02 PM

This Looks Fun: you have pee hands: There are way more than 5 18 year olds who can throw 90+. Probably thousands, at least. Most of them either can't locate their pitches or can't throw anything besides an arrow straight fastball. A guy with a 90mph fastball and nothing else will probably get college looks and someone might take a flyer on them in the late rounds of the draft (MLB has a 50 round draft, so getting drafted doesn't mean the same thing as it does in other sports) but odds are really high they'll flame out in the low minors.

Sure, there may be more. But name me a single high schooler in the last 20 years that was consistently pitching 90-94 that didn't merit a mention in SI and get drafted by some baseball team in one of their 50 rounds of silly drafts. It's big news. Scouts would have known, he would have been drafted long before a single-A club came out of nowhere to offer him to pay for his own contract. It's a silly story and exaggerated pretty much everywhere.


Getting drafted won't get you into SI.

Pretty much every right handed pitcher drafted can reach 90. You may have some wiggle room on "constistently", but they all can do it probably 3 innings easy.
 
2012-04-25 02:22:16 PM

Imperialism: I think I topped out in the mid-70s in my various tries at this game at Trenton Thunder games. The ridiculous forearm tightness after the last time has me in semi-retirement (haven't tried it the last few times I've been to the park).

/was a dominant pitcher at age 9
//never learned to throw anything with movement
///couldn't hit anything with movement either, relied on bunting, stolen bases, and defense to get playing time


huh... You just described my baseball "career"

You have a partial tear in your rotator cuff too? fark getting old sucks.
 
2012-04-25 02:41:12 PM

seumasokelly: You know how I know you aren't paying any attention to baseball this season?

Jamie Moyer - 1-2, 2.28 ERA, 1.35 WHIP


I think we can safely assume that everyone posting in this thread will end the season with a 0.00 ERA.
 
2012-04-25 02:55:38 PM
I used to be able to throw in the low 90's / high 80's.

Until I took an arrow to the knee...

/Amidoinitrite?
 
2012-04-25 03:01:48 PM
I threw a baseball over the left field fence at old Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium from about half way up the first base line.
My fingertips stung and throbbed for a while.
 
2012-04-25 03:35:29 PM
Why has there been no mention of the disturbing amount of 'fairs' with baseball throwing games people in this thread have attended and competed in?

/no idea pitch speed except that it's bad. Good hand eye, no strength lefty.... Played first base.
 
2012-04-25 03:56:13 PM

poisonedpawn78: And this is based on what expertise that you have in the area of mid 1990s canadian baseball highschoolers and the methods used by teams and colleges for recruitment into canada during this period?

By all means post your curriculum vitae for the mid 1990s.


How about I apologize for coming down hard on your possibly exaggerated but equally possibly true story instead? I believe my reaction stemmed from the fact that your story is extremely similar to my brother's story that I have heard him tell and he's lying through his teeth when he tells. it. His speeds are consistently 5-9mph faster than anyone else that mentions their pitch speeds first.

My "expertise" is knowing how silly the drafts are and as far as I know, any pitcher form high school who is consistently pitching in the 90's would likely be talking about being drafted but never being offered a contract.

In short, I really don't have CV in this area. My skepticism was my guide and I'm sorry to offend.
 
2012-04-25 03:57:48 PM

inclemency: Why has there been no mention of the disturbing amount of 'fairs' with baseball throwing games people in this thread have attended and competed in?

/no idea pitch speed except that it's bad. Good hand eye, no strength lefty.... Played first base.


Eh, I don't think it's that unlikely. I've seen several and I don't even go to many fairs. My fastest throw was 61, fastest strike was like 54.
 
2012-04-25 04:25:13 PM

This Looks Fun: inclemency: Why has there been no mention of the disturbing amount of 'fairs' with baseball throwing games people in this thread have attended and competed in?

/no idea pitch speed except that it's bad. Good hand eye, no strength lefty.... Played first base.

Eh, I don't think it's that unlikely. I've seen several and I don't even go to many fairs. My fastest throw was 61, fastest strike was like 54.


nono you misunderstand, I find the number of fairs people attend to be disturbing. Is fark a redneck haven?
 
2012-04-25 04:43:29 PM

inclemency: nono you misunderstand, I find the number of fairs people attend to be disturbing. Is fark a redneck haven?


They have these new things called "amusement parks" in some areas, which contain rides, overpriced junk foods, and carnival-style games.

/Also, fairs are pretty mainstream in most places these days.
 
2012-04-25 04:51:34 PM

inclemency: This Looks Fun: inclemency: Why has there been no mention of the disturbing amount of 'fairs' with baseball throwing games people in this thread have attended and competed in?

/no idea pitch speed except that it's bad. Good hand eye, no strength lefty.... Played first base.

Eh, I don't think it's that unlikely. I've seen several and I don't even go to many fairs. My fastest throw was 61, fastest strike was like 54.

nono you misunderstand, I find the number of fairs people attend to be disturbing. Is fark a redneck haven?


Hehe, oh. I hit up like 1 every 3 years. They can be pretty fun. I don't judge.
 
2012-04-25 06:22:02 PM

Misconduc: Interesting where did you play in Lakeland? That rule started because half my Catholic high school ditched to play for Lakeland Senior High, after Coach Carpenter left I bailed to Lakeland myself.


Well this was not in school since I did not live there and only visited for the summers, but we played in the pony league fields that used to be near joker marchant stadium, I dont think they are there any longer though, we also played in a babe ruth league a couple years and then after we hit 19 we played in an american legion league.

These were rules brought around to keep a few of us out of their leagues, we could never have played on a school team since I havent lived a full year there since I was 2.
 
2012-04-25 06:32:51 PM

meanmutton: OtherLittleGuy: But that's okay because girls can never be anything more than softball pitchers because professional baseball pitchers can hit anything above what they can throw.

So they should just switch to beach volleyball so we have have our lesbian fantasies while looking at their thonged asses.

/amidoingitright?

Aren't people bored of the amidoingitright meme yet?


Aren't people bored of the "aren't people bored of the __________ meme" meme yet?

/RIP Jaime Moreno
 
2012-04-25 06:37:21 PM

poisonedpawn78: I was up in the 90-94 range in highschool.


LOL
 
2012-04-25 06:42:58 PM

SharkTrager: Ow My Balls: Played HS ball 25 years ago. The best arms on the team could hit upper 70s/low 80s after a month of conditioning and properly warming up for over ten minutes or so? It's tougher to do than most think, and pitches look much, much different from a batter's box versus a television...

/was a good defensive catcher with a great arm, threw out 15/29 base stealers my senior year, but only hit .230 before ending the season on an 0 for 9 slump. With an aluminum bat.

//csb!

Really? Our team consistently had one or two guys a year in the 90mph range.


Small, rural high school in a non-warm climate (Northern Indiana), but we played all the big schools in our area. None of them I faced could throw more than about 85 either. This was in the late '80s when "dip and drive" was taught.

Unrelated, but CSBable...Shawn Kemp windmill dunked against us in our little gym, but I missed it, working in the concession stand. Booooooooo!
 
2012-04-25 08:35:48 PM

9beers: poisonedpawn78: I was up in the 90-94 range in highschool.

LOL


Yeah I laughed at him as well but ignored the liar, if you throw 90+ with any consistency then a team/scout will find you. I had low level scouts looking at me because I could hit and play a lot of positions but it never amounted to anything because I was good but I'm not THAT good. It fed my ego having all my friends saying "fark them they don't know shiat!!!" But I knew they were right, I was not good enough to play in the MLB, I could dominate beer softball leagues and lower level baseball but in the end I realized I was just short of ability.

Some people like to dream they were great but he overstepped his lie by saying 90+
 
2012-04-25 08:57:41 PM
I topped off at 60 at the county fair, and I still can't straighten my arm out.
 
2012-04-26 06:28:06 AM

steamingpile:
Some people like to dream they were great but he overstepped his lie by saying 90+


For those of you who as i have stated already in this thread have NO CLUE what you are talking about, here is a random highschool scout found on google. I have no idea who this guy is ...
Ed Herrmann Highschool scout
From THE FIRST PARAGRAPH of his website ...

There are many pitchers in high school and college that can touch 90+ mph on the radar gun but are not really considered professional prospects.

Very Above Average 94+ mph
Above Average 92 - 93 mph
Average 89 - 91 mph
Below Average 87 - 88 mph
Very Below Average 85 - 86 mph


I just love how random people on the internet suddenly are professionals in anything and everything trying to discredit people who actually got out of their parents basements growing up.
 
2012-04-26 07:32:41 AM
90+ in HS is uncommon but not rare by any definition. Many youths are at or near the peak of their physical ability at 17-18 (and many aren't, it's a spectrum).

I was having dinner with Mickey Lolich a few months ago and he was asked "what is the fastest you've ever thrown?" His answer was "well, at 17 I could throw 104 but couldn't hit a damned thing!"

Obviously he wasn't being scientifically precise (though I wouldn't be all too shocked if that were true, the man should be in the HoF) but his point was that he had the physical skill as a teenager and actually sacrificed speed for accuracy as he matured.
 
2012-04-26 09:47:41 AM
After sleeping on it, a much better promotion would be free tickets if your wife was hotter than Moyer's.
 
2012-04-26 01:30:12 PM

ryarger: I was having dinner with Mickey Lolich a few months ago and he was asked "what is the fastest you've ever thrown?" His answer was "well, at 17 I could throw 104 but couldn't hit a damned thing!"


That's amazing considering his fastball was only in the low 90's during his career. In other words, stop lying.
 
2012-04-26 01:31:21 PM

9beers: That's amazing considering his fastball was only in the low 90's during his career. In other words, stop lying.


I think a lot of people in this thread have difficulty separating a throw from a pitch.
 
2012-04-26 02:06:01 PM

Harv72b: I think a lot of people in this thread have difficulty separating a throw from a pitch.


So you're saying that your average pitcher can throw 10 MPH or so faster but doesn't because they can't control the location? That's ridiculous dude. MLB pitchers are where they are because they're able to throw as hard as they can while maintaining control.
 
2012-04-26 02:15:42 PM

9beers: So you're saying that your average pitcher can throw 10 MPH or so faster but doesn't because they can't control the location? That's ridiculous dude. MLB pitchers are where they are because they're able to throw as hard as they can while maintaining control.


I'm saying that the post you quoted involved a former major league pitcher who allegedly said he could throw over 100 mph as a youth. That has nothing to do with the speed of his pitches during his career. Ask any pitcher, major league or otherwise, what happens to their pitches when they overthrow them.

/As I said above, I maxed out in the low 70s as a teenager. I doubt if I ever threw a pitch faster than 65.
 
2012-04-26 02:28:54 PM

Harv72b: Ask any pitcher, major league or otherwise, what happens to their pitches when they overthrow them.


Overthrowing is 1 or 2 MPH at most. It's ridiculous to think that a pitcher can add 10mph to their fastball while sacrificing control.
 
2012-04-26 03:06:56 PM

9beers: Overthrowing is 1 or 2 MPH at most. It's ridiculous to think that a pitcher can add 10mph to their fastball while sacrificing control.


Again, we're not talking about a fastball. We're talking about a throw.

/Not saying a former pro in his golden years wouldn't exaggerate some, but this thread is filled with lame blanket statements given as "fact".
 
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