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(Wonkette)   Girl so mad school wouldn't let her go to prom just because her Confederate flag dress was "inappropriate and offensive" even though they totally told her that beforehand   (wonkette.com) divider line 114
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2012-04-24 04:12:26 PM
9 votes:
My daughter Massachusella wore a sickle and hammer dress to prom.
2012-04-24 03:54:31 PM
8 votes:
AHhahaha her name is "Texanna." White people, next time you make fun of black names, keep this in mind.
2012-04-24 08:55:51 PM
6 votes:
99.9% of the people who have any desire to display the confederate flag are idiots, and douchebags.

It's common knowledge that in modern times the flag is associated with racism, and that is how people are going to percieve it. If you're flying it, and you happen to not be a racist, you're still an asshole because you are damn well aware of the image it represents, and you just want to be confrontational.

If you are flying it, and you are a racist, then you're an asshole because of your racism.


The confederate flag is nothing to be flown with pride. It represents treason, and failure, and the fact that a large portion of the country was willing to commit treason and kill their fellow countrymen to keep the right to enslave their fellow human beings, along with the various and sundry acts of torture, rape and murder that become part and parcel of any society that considers people to be property(Idiots, the south lost),

Slavery was the major factor in the civil war, the south practiced it, and that part of southern heritage, which most people do in fact associate with the confederacy, is something to be ashamed of. not proud.

Slavery is an abomination. It's disgusting, and a crime against everything humanity should represent. My mind cannot even begin to fathom how human beings could practice it.
2012-04-24 07:24:29 PM
6 votes:

UCFRoadWarrior: Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"

I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?


Not only has the Confederate flag been used as a symbol of racism and racial intimidation by many white supremacist groups in the United States, but it is also a symbol of treason against the United States. So go ahead and keep flying your racist, treasonous symbol, but please don't be surprised when everybody thinks you are a backwards idiot.
2012-04-24 03:57:49 PM
6 votes:
You idiots know you got your asses thoroughly kicked, right? And 150 years later your standard of living is STILL below the rest of the country?

I don't really blame this girl- her parents named her Texanna after all.
2012-04-24 03:54:38 PM
6 votes:
high school senior Texanna Edwards just wanted to dress up as the muscle car from "The Dukes Of Hazzard," the General Lee.


Ohhh bullshiat. If that were true your entire dress would be orange and a confederate flag on just the back. Just admit you're a racist attention whore and we can move on.
2012-04-24 08:53:01 PM
5 votes:

UCFRoadWarrior: Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"

I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?


I used to live in the south, and heard that line all the time to take the blame off of the slack-jawed yokels. 'But the Afticans sold them, the southern plantation owners didn't capture them, so it wasn't their fault111!!1' Who bought them? Who forced them to work? Who beat them, chased them down like dogs when they tried to escape? The plantation owners, that's who. Stop trying to deflect the blame of slavery onto everyone but those who bought and exploited their fellow humans, it's disgusting.
2012-04-24 08:22:26 PM
5 votes:
I gotta be honest, when I see people do this, all I can think of is cruelty. This girl is cruel. Doesn't remotely care what that flag means to a huge swath of people - she's indifferent to it, which is about as damning as it gets.
2012-04-24 07:36:51 PM
5 votes:

UCFRoadWarrior: Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"

I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?


Yes, the battle flag of the states that seceded from the union expressly so they could keep their slaves, and then fought a war with their former brethren in the US to reinforce that decision they made to keep their slaves, does have a very strong association with slavery. I'm sorry if that annoys you.
2012-04-24 07:06:08 PM
5 votes:
After being told to go home and change, she went back home and had her mother help her put on a simple white gown that she had hanging in her closet . . .

ll-media.essence.com
2012-04-24 09:27:17 PM
4 votes:
Also, THIS is the "Stars and Bars"...

upload.wikimedia.org

THIS is called "The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia"

upload.wikimedia.org
2012-04-24 04:35:51 PM
4 votes:
Her date doesn't care what she wears, so long as she bends over and takes it up the ass like Lee did at Appomattox Courthouse.
2012-04-24 03:51:34 PM
4 votes:
Ah, traitor symbols used to "celebrate our history".
2012-04-25 09:17:48 AM
3 votes:

Silly Jesus: Jake Havechek: It means "southern", not "racist",

No, it means "traitors who declared war on the Union".

To you...

There's this weird phenomenon where certain things have different meanings to different people. Part of that phenomenon is that one group of people doesn't get to decide what that meaning is for another group of people.


That is true. But here's the thing: that works both ways. To you, it symbolizes a proud Southern heritage. But you need to be aware that to a large segment of the people you interact with, it is a strong symbol of hatred. You may be sending a message of tradition and hospitality, but that is not the message that is being received. Communication depends on both sender and receiver understanding the same message. Perhaps, you (in a generic sense) need to find a symbol that conveys your message more effectively.
2012-04-25 03:13:49 AM
3 votes:

Brytanica1: Slavery is an abomination. It's disgusting, and a crime against everything humanity should represent. My mind cannot even begin to fathom how human beings could practice it.


It's because there are many vile people who profit from exploiting their fellow human beings. Slavery as an institution dates back to the beginnings of human history and still continues illegally today.

It wasn't until the Industrial Revolution that there was any sizable movement to outlaw slavery, and in all honesty I think that is because it's cheaper for factory owners to have a high turnover of low-paid employees than to own them outright and replace them if they are killed or injured on the job.
2012-04-24 10:11:04 PM
3 votes:
por-img.cimcontent.net

There's a reason we don't wear these shirts.
2012-04-24 09:20:54 PM
3 votes:
I pissed off many a co-worker in the refinery at work when they referred to "The War of Northern Aggression" and I would counter "you can't be serious? I believe you mean, The Civil War, where you backwater hicks decided keeping people in shackles and getting cheap labor was more important than treating people equally"

Yea, I got called into my bosses office quite a few times for that. Each time responded with "Fark them. They're ignorant racist assholes and I will continue to call them out each time they something moronic and try to drag their neanderthal asses into the present century"
2012-04-24 08:30:44 PM
3 votes:
Maybe next year she can try a Nazi flag, or maybe a Viet Cong flag. Nothing shows patriotism like sporting the flag of a hostile foreign power.
2012-04-24 08:15:10 PM
3 votes:

phaseolus: spongeboob: You know what now I have to know what she is wearing under that dress, I'm thinking

[encrypted-tbn2.google.com image 251x201]
Thanks
/afraid image with a model would get me a timeout.


Or maybe

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x375]

??


Well p*ssies and Assh@les have wrapped themselves in that flag for years, so that is appropriate I suppose.

And you are probably correct.
2012-04-24 06:54:44 PM
3 votes:

what_now: [cmsimg.jacksonsun.com image 300x534]

She's wearing farking flipflops.


Thank you for mentioning the flipflops. I can't take anything she may have to say seriously as long as she is wearing flipflops. She put a lot of effort into her dress, she could have squeezed out a tiny bit more effort to come up with a pair of shoes, actual shoes. Now the whole thing is just so tacky. Tacky! Tacky! Tacky! Be a racist, retarded redneck all you want. But don't wear tacky flipflops!
2012-04-24 05:28:45 PM
3 votes:
seems as if she's more a fan of the sara lee.
2012-04-24 04:59:48 PM
3 votes:
This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"
2012-04-25 09:12:58 AM
2 votes:
How to stump a redneck:

Q: why was the Civil War fought?

Redneck: to preserve states' rights

Q: states' rights to do exactly what?

Redneck: ???
2012-04-25 08:50:28 AM
2 votes:

Jake Havechek: It means "southern", not "racist",

No, it means "traitors who declared war on the Union".


Exactly. If you choose not to believe it's racist then that's your opinion but there's no amount of double talk that can deny that it stands for treason.
2012-04-25 08:37:02 AM
2 votes:
It means "southern", not "racist",

No, it means "traitors who declared war on the Union".
2012-04-24 09:38:12 PM
2 votes:
If you display the confederate flag- a symbol of the most dangerous group of traitors in American history, let us not forget- your citizenship should automatically be forfeit and you should immediately be deported to whatever country is so foolish as to accept you.
/The worst mistake America ever made was not hanging Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis
2012-04-24 09:36:13 PM
2 votes:

Silly Jesus: Brytanica1: 99.9% of the people who have any desire to display the confederate flag are idiots, and douchebags.

It's common knowledge that in modern times the flag is associated with racism, and that is how people are going to percieve it. If you're flying it, and you happen to not be a racist, you're still an asshole because you are damn well aware of the image it represents, and you just want to be confrontational.

If you are flying it, and you are a racist, then you're an asshole because of your racism.


The confederate flag is nothing to be flown with pride. It represents treason, and failure, and the fact that a large portion of the country was willing to commit treason and kill their fellow countrymen to keep the right to enslave their fellow human beings, along with the various and sundry acts of torture, rape and murder that become part and parcel of any society that considers people to be property(Idiots, the south lost),

Slavery was the major factor in the civil war, the south practiced it, and that part of southern heritage, which most people do in fact associate with the confederacy, is something to be ashamed of. not proud.

Slavery is an abomination. It's disgusting, and a crime against everything humanity should represent. My mind cannot even begin to fathom how human beings could practice it.

How do you think that Native Americans feel about the flag that they were slaughtered under? We seem to fly it a lot. Should we consider their feelings on the matter or do they not count?


The difference is, the Indians, like the Confederates, lost.
The winners get to make the rules.

Why would some inbred farkstick want to fly the Confederate flag anyway? It's the historical equivalent of a Buffalo Bills jersey.
2012-04-24 09:23:55 PM
2 votes:
There is nothing that isn't white trash about that entire first sentence.
2012-04-24 09:19:38 PM
2 votes:

Silly Jesus: How do you think that Native Americans feel about the flag that they were slaughtered under? We seem to fly it a lot. Should we consider their feelings on the matter or do they not count?


Right, yeah, no, shush, they don't count. We'll just go ahead and sweep them back under the rug.

/The dirty, small-pox-infested rug
2012-04-24 09:15:25 PM
2 votes:

Brytanica1: 99.9% of the people who have any desire to display the confederate flag are idiots, and douchebags.

It's common knowledge that in modern times the flag is associated with racism, and that is how people are going to percieve it. If you're flying it, and you happen to not be a racist, you're still an asshole because you are damn well aware of the image it represents, and you just want to be confrontational.

If you are flying it, and you are a racist, then you're an asshole because of your racism.


The confederate flag is nothing to be flown with pride. It represents treason, and failure, and the fact that a large portion of the country was willing to commit treason and kill their fellow countrymen to keep the right to enslave their fellow human beings, along with the various and sundry acts of torture, rape and murder that become part and parcel of any society that considers people to be property(Idiots, the south lost),

Slavery was the major factor in the civil war, the south practiced it, and that part of southern heritage, which most people do in fact associate with the confederacy, is something to be ashamed of. not proud.

Slavery is an abomination. It's disgusting, and a crime against everything humanity should represent. My mind cannot even begin to fathom how human beings could practice it.


How do you think that Native Americans feel about the flag that they were slaughtered under? We seem to fly it a lot. Should we consider their feelings on the matter or do they not count?
2012-04-24 09:15:19 PM
2 votes:
TFA: ""I didn't talk with administration because we wore rebel flags all through my four years at Gibson County," she said. "I didn't ask for approval because I didn't think I needed to. I had one teacher tell me it was a bad idea. but I just thought she only said that because it would offend people. But I asked a bunch of people before I had the dress made and they all loved the idea.""

This just in: you have terrible friends.

/And apparently things are no longer offensive if other people like them.
2012-04-24 08:54:50 PM
2 votes:
Just sent her a friend request on facebook. This could be interesting.
2012-04-24 08:30:54 PM
2 votes:

nopokerface: Is it bad that I knew she'd be fat?


She's American. I think it goes without saying she weighs more than my wife and her sister (Finnish gals) put together.

That being said, I'm not going to put her down for her weight. She's a product of her society. No, I'll call her an idiot with horrible judgement because of her foolishness.
2012-04-24 08:30:24 PM
2 votes:

robsul82: You lost


The sad thing is, they didn't fight 'the war'. Yet they act as if they just lost it 20 years ago. Mississippi just passed a Confederate Day (according to my sister who lives there) holiday.
2012-04-24 08:23:01 PM
2 votes:
farm8.staticflickr.com
2012-04-24 07:35:42 PM
2 votes:

feffer: Nabb1: I think you might be overreacting to one white trash attention whore. I've spent four decades of life in the South, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard of a girl trying to fashion a prom dress out of the stars 'n bars. Not to mention that dress is a bit short for a prom dress. It looks more like a cocktail dress. This girl is just trashy all around.

There was also this chick a few years ago. I remember it being on here. She also said it wasn't race, it was her heritage. Take note of the backdrop.


I remember that chick. She was from Kentucky and claimed that the Confederate flag was part of her heritage, even though Kentucky was a Union state.
2012-04-24 07:24:38 PM
2 votes:
Why have these people never read a flag code? Does the flag code apply to the Confederate Naval Jack?

/flag code says flag clothing is insulting the flag and isn't allowed
//damn dirty liberal and knows this
2012-04-24 07:17:20 PM
2 votes:
Ok, I give up on voting individual posts and just declare this whole thread FUNNY
2012-04-24 07:16:08 PM
2 votes:

sweetmelissa31: My daughter Massachusella wore a sickle and hammer dress to prom.


This is +1,000,000,000,000 funny!

/If your name is Texanna, you should really try to keep a lower profile or the Internets are gonna get you!
2012-04-24 06:44:55 PM
2 votes:

what_now: [cmsimg.jacksonsun.com image 300x534]

She's wearing farking flipflops.


Actually, that's sort of an appropriate touch for the outfit. It all works together, screaming "fill me with half-wit child".
2012-04-24 05:09:52 PM
2 votes:

zedster: [cmsimg.jacksonsun.com image 300x531]

I predict herpes will do it's impression of Sherman on this one, blaze a path right into the south


She needs some Spanx, stat.
2012-04-24 04:51:54 PM
2 votes:
Ok, the mouseover text made me LOL.
2012-04-24 04:50:37 PM
2 votes:

Nabb1: I think you might be overreacting to one white trash attention whore. I've spent four decades of life in the South, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard of a girl trying to fashion a prom dress out of the stars 'n bars. Not to mention that dress is a bit short for a prom dress. It looks more like a cocktail dress. This girl is just trashy all around.


Well, her name is Texanna.

My concern is for the people who think the battle flag of a losing army is a good thing to parade around in. Now if you excuse me, I have to make a joke about my daughter Cambridget and her North Korean sundress that Sweetmelissa31 already knocked out the park.
2012-04-24 04:43:24 PM
2 votes:

what_now: You idiots know you got your asses thoroughly kicked, right? And 150 years later your standard of living is STILL below the rest of the country?


I think you might be overreacting to one white trash attention whore. I've spent four decades of life in the South, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard of a girl trying to fashion a prom dress out of the stars 'n bars. Not to mention that dress is a bit short for a prom dress. It looks more like a cocktail dress. This girl is just trashy all around.
2012-04-24 04:37:34 PM
2 votes:
Next month's centerfold for StormFront.
2012-04-24 04:26:58 PM
2 votes:
the headline... it hurts my brain.
2012-04-24 03:56:39 PM
2 votes:
`Texanna'? What's her middle name - `Double-Wide'?
2012-04-24 03:50:43 PM
2 votes:
She'd probably spend the entire evening trying to jump over cars in the parking lot
2012-04-24 03:46:46 PM
2 votes:
Is it bad that I knew she'd be fat?
2012-04-25 11:17:29 AM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: So if the "heritage" symbolized is based entirely on the events of 1860-1865, should not the treason and slavery of that period be included?


It's more complex than that. Let me get back to you on that this afternoon.
2012-04-25 11:07:33 AM
1 votes:

sweetmelissa31: My daughter Massachusella wore a sickle and hammer dress to prom.


Goddammit that's funny.

+1
2012-04-25 10:51:31 AM
1 votes:

Publikwerks: Silly Jesus: Beaver1224: Silly Jesus: Jake Havechek: It means "southern", not "racist",

No, it means "traitors who declared war on the Union".

To you...

There's this weird phenomenon where certain things have different meanings to different people. Part of that phenomenon is that one group of people doesn't get to decide what that meaning is for another group of people.

That is true. But here's the thing: that works both ways. To you, it symbolizes a proud Southern heritage. But you need to be aware that to a large segment of the people you interact with, it is a strong symbol of hatred. You may be sending a message of tradition and hospitality, but that is not the message that is being received. Communication depends on both sender and receiver understanding the same message. Perhaps, you (in a generic sense) need to find a symbol that conveys your message more effectively.

I, and my family, have been heavily involved in the preservation of civil war artifacts and civil war sites as well as civil war reenactments as a means of paying to preserve historical structures etc. To me the flag is about history. Yes, the civil war was obviously fought to preserve states rights primarily as they related to slavery, but, my having a battle flag from that war in my house doesn't mean that I am a racist or that I agree with slavery. To me it is not a symbol of hate. It's a historical 'document.'

Why should someone else - who in my experience is generally not from the south and has no way of knowing what the flag means to southerners outside of the simplistic stereotypical p.c. nonsense of 'he's southern so he must be racist, and look, there's the flag to prove it - get to determine the meaning of the flag for everyone?

The problem is that you choose to fly that historical document. I don't fly the Imperial Japanese flag because I am not Japanese and found the actions of Imperial Japan detestable.

So when you display the Confederate flag, I take it as a sign that you do not find the action of the Confederacy detestable. I'm not saying that the Confederacy is all bad, but you have to take the good with the bad. And so if you take pride in that Confederate heritage, I take it as you feeling that the good outweighs the bad, which I disagree with.

Besides, that is the flag of traitors.


Only if you insist on living in the reality based community.
2012-04-25 10:47:31 AM
1 votes:
We haven't given BP enough time to rid us of the great curse of southerners. Be patient and encourage them to eat lots of local seafood.
2012-04-25 10:44:33 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Beaver1224: Silly Jesus: Jake Havechek: It means "southern", not "racist",

No, it means "traitors who declared war on the Union".

To you...

There's this weird phenomenon where certain things have different meanings to different people. Part of that phenomenon is that one group of people doesn't get to decide what that meaning is for another group of people.

That is true. But here's the thing: that works both ways. To you, it symbolizes a proud Southern heritage. But you need to be aware that to a large segment of the people you interact with, it is a strong symbol of hatred. You may be sending a message of tradition and hospitality, but that is not the message that is being received. Communication depends on both sender and receiver understanding the same message. Perhaps, you (in a generic sense) need to find a symbol that conveys your message more effectively.

I, and my family, have been heavily involved in the preservation of civil war artifacts and civil war sites as well as civil war reenactments as a means of paying to preserve historical structures etc. To me the flag is about history. Yes, the civil war was obviously fought to preserve states rights primarily as they related to slavery, but, my having a battle flag from that war in my house doesn't mean that I am a racist or that I agree with slavery. To me it is not a symbol of hate. It's a historical 'document.'

Why should someone else - who in my experience is generally not from the south and has no way of knowing what the flag means to southerners outside of the simplistic stereotypical p.c. nonsense of 'he's southern so he must be racist, and look, there's the flag to prove it - get to determine the meaning of the flag for everyone?


The problem is that you choose to fly that historical document. I don't fly the Imperial Japanese flag because I am not Japanese and found the actions of Imperial Japan detestable.

So when you display the Confederate flag, I take it as a sign that you do not find the action of the Confederacy detestable. I'm not saying that the Confederacy is all bad, but you have to take the good with the bad. And so if you take pride in that Confederate heritage, I take it as you feeling that the good outweighs the bad, which I disagree with.

Besides, that is the flag of traitors.
2012-04-25 10:40:06 AM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: I gotta be honest, when I see people do this, all I can think of is cruelty. This girl is cruel. Doesn't remotely care what that flag means to a huge swath of people - she's indifferent to it, which is about as damning as it gets.


Maybe it's part of my transformation from Republican to Democrat, but I remember when I decided, sadly, that it's inappropriate to wave that flag: see, I'm Lithuanian, and sometime around 2000, there was this Russian protest with about 100 or so people marching to call for a return to the "good old days" of the Soviet Union. They were flying the old hammer-and-sickle, and I recall thinking that these people simply are incapable of seeing what oppression it caused and how that flag made other people feel. I realized the same was true of Confederate flags.

I never owned a battle flag, but after that, even the Stars and Bars that hung in my room never came out of its box again.
2012-04-25 10:34:42 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Beaver1224: Silly Jesus: Beaver1224: Silly Jesus: Jake Havechek: It means "southern", not "racist",

No, it means "traitors who declared war on the Union".

To you...

There's this weird phenomenon where certain things have different meanings to different people. Part of that phenomenon is that one group of people doesn't get to decide what that meaning is for another group of people.

That is true. But here's the thing: that works both ways. To you, it symbolizes a proud Southern heritage. But you need to be aware that to a large segment of the people you interact with, it is a strong symbol of hatred. You may be sending a message of tradition and hospitality, but that is not the message that is being received. Communication depends on both sender and receiver understanding the same message. Perhaps, you (in a generic sense) need to find a symbol that conveys your message more effectively.

I, and my family, have been heavily involved in the preservation of civil war artifacts and civil war sites as well as civil war reenactments as a means of paying to preserve historical structures etc. To me the flag is about history. Yes, the civil war was obviously fought to preserve states rights primarily as they related to slavery, but, my having a battle flag from that war in my house doesn't mean that I am a racist or that I agree with slavery. To me it is not a symbol of hate. It's a historical 'document.'

Why should someone else - who in my experience is generally not from the south and has no way of knowing what the flag means to southerners outside of the simplistic stereotypical p.c. nonsense of 'he's southern so he must be racist, and look, there's the flag to prove it - get to determine the meaning of the flag for everyone?

You've missed my point. No one has - indeed, no one can - deterimne the meaning of a symbol for everyone. However, your message is consistently misunderstood. If you want understanding, you need to communicate clearly. The symbol you've chosen to comm ...

I can't explain the meaning I get from it to every moron who just prefers to assume that since I am southern I am a racist who loves slavery. There's too much stupid to overcome.


Let me get this straight.

You don't like stupid people but you live in the south ?
2012-04-25 10:08:21 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Beaver1224: Silly Jesus: Jake Havechek: It means "southern", not "racist",

No, it means "traitors who declared war on the Union".

To you...

There's this weird phenomenon where certain things have different meanings to different people. Part of that phenomenon is that one group of people doesn't get to decide what that meaning is for another group of people.

That is true. But here's the thing: that works both ways. To you, it symbolizes a proud Southern heritage. But you need to be aware that to a large segment of the people you interact with, it is a strong symbol of hatred. You may be sending a message of tradition and hospitality, but that is not the message that is being received. Communication depends on both sender and receiver understanding the same message. Perhaps, you (in a generic sense) need to find a symbol that conveys your message more effectively.

I, and my family, have been heavily involved in the preservation of civil war artifacts and civil war sites as well as civil war reenactments as a means of paying to preserve historical structures etc. To me the flag is about history. Yes, the civil war was obviously fought to preserve states rights primarily as they related to slavery, but, my having a battle flag from that war in my house doesn't mean that I am a racist or that I agree with slavery. To me it is not a symbol of hate. It's a historical 'document.'

Why should someone else - who in my experience is generally not from the south and has no way of knowing what the flag means to southerners outside of the simplistic stereotypical p.c. nonsense of 'he's southern so he must be racist, and look, there's the flag to prove it - get to determine the meaning of the flag for everyone?


You've missed my point. No one has - indeed, no one can - deterimne the meaning of a symbol for everyone. However, your message is consistently misunderstood. If you want understanding, you need to communicate clearly. The symbol you've chosen to communicate your message of heritage has multiple meanings and is therefore unclear.
2012-04-25 09:41:06 AM
1 votes:

Jake Havechek: How to stump a redneck:

Q: why was the Civil War fought?

Redneck: to preserve states' rights

Q: states' rights to do exactly what?

Redneck: ???


Meanwhile, in the north...

www.ymca.org.au

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-04-25 09:09:17 AM
1 votes:
The heritage is hate. There is absolutely nothing noble symbolized by that flag.
2012-04-25 08:31:24 AM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Darth Macho: The Confederate Battle Flag became a symbol of the postwar Ku Klux Klan used to terrorize freed slaves away from voting. Understandably, a sizeable portion of modern society will be offended by seeing your flag. So why wave that dirty rag when a clean alternative is lawfully flying outside your post office?

I know, I KNOW.

The confederate flag is teh Eeeevil and all that, but I find it absolutely fascinating how a flag that in the 70s was utterly non-offensive outside of the direct context of being weilded by a Klansman has become so completely imbued with 'racist connotations' is just a decade or two.

When I was a kid, we ALL had confederate flag shiat, and the Dukes of Hazard was all the rage. No one thought THEY were racist - just Southern Boys never meanin' no harm.

We had confederate flag lunchboxes and confederate flag caps and no one batted an eye. I was jealous of my black friends who had the cool confederate bike paintjobs which were all the rage for a bit.

/My town was 60+% black, and at the cook-offs and Fourth of July picnics and what-not you were as likely to see a black guy with a confederate flag apron on as a white guy. Hell even in the mid-80s there was an ancient black guy who always cooked at the Houston Livestock show and rodeo and would be on TV grinning with his Confederate flag bandana and apron.

For most of my life, the Confederate flag meant SOUTHERN, not racist. In a mostly black town, THEY used it to mean "true southern". A burning cross, now THAT was racist, but the flag of the south? Nah. That was for all of us. It was our way of saying, we are southerners, not those damn yankees. (shocking, I know, but blacks and whites in the south all agree that we need less of "northerners trying to tell us our business".)

In just a decade or two it has been turned into a vfile symbol of racism, largely by people who aren't from here.

I'm not saying it's not NOW an offensive symbol, but it is a real study in how quickly social mo ...


1. People all of the sudden seem to have more sensitive feewings about everything. I still think it's absurd that people get so torn up about certain words (sticks and stones and all that), but to have such a conniption fit about a damn flag? That takes a certain kinda butthurt, especially when you don't understand what it means to the VAST majority of the people who display it. It means "southern", not "racist", as your examples of black folks flying it so obviously point out. I made the same observations 20 years ago before someone decided for us that it meant something different.

2. I agree with you about the northerners. It's as though they are trying to help us poor little backwaters realize that we should be outraged about something because they decided that they are.

Northerners! I call on you to help this man with your self righteousness! He obviously knows not what he does! His feelings are being hurt and he doesn't even realize it! Straighten him out for us!
encrypted-tbn2.google.com

/he's a former state head of the NAACP and thinks that your politically correct nonsense is a shame.
2012-04-25 08:00:02 AM
1 votes:

suburbanguy: Nabb1: what_now: You idiots know you got your asses thoroughly kicked, right? And 150 years later your standard of living is STILL below the rest of the country?

I think you might be overreacting to one white trash attention whore. I've spent four decades of life in the South, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard of a girl trying to fashion a prom dress out of the stars 'n bars. Not to mention that dress is a bit short for a prom dress. It looks more like a cocktail dress. This girl is just trashy all around.

Uh, the "stars and bars" is the American flag, not the confederate...


Really?

Really?

The Stars and Bars is most definitely NOT the American Flag.

Link

The American Flag is the "Stars and Stripes"

Link
2012-04-25 05:55:05 AM
1 votes:

quatchi: Is it just me or does the smug, self satisfied expression on the fact of racist dress girl in that pic seem to eerily parallel the face of that teatard on FOX who was recently told she didn't know "WTF she was talking about"?

Probably just me.


I think it's probably just a matter of her being so dumb that she's barely aware of being alive.
2012-04-25 05:32:20 AM
1 votes:
Is it just me or does the smug, self satisfied expression on the fact of racist dress girl in that pic seem to eerily parallel the face of that teatard on FOX who was recently told she didn't know "WTF she was talking about"?

Probably just me.
2012-04-25 03:35:40 AM
1 votes:
Want to make the Confederate flag respectable again, oh Dixieland?

Be chivalrous and altruistic. Perform acts of kindness and selflessness. Eschew acts of bigotry and racism. Use the past as your first stepping stone towards a better future.

/Yes, I've been drinking.
2012-04-25 01:15:59 AM
1 votes:
hammer and sickle

star and crescent

star of david

rising sun

some design they don't know the historic significance

this shiat is sooooo stoopid

dat dere cross offends jews and mohammedans and atheist baal worshippers too

dag nabbit

nip it nip it

heroic deeds in all losing causes,

some more than others
2012-04-24 10:59:26 PM
1 votes:

jekxrb: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x467]


Only in the South would they consider going to Walmart to get a wedding dress

And only in the South would they consider using a confederate flag as the material . . .

pinkie.ponychan.net

Didn't do enough razing and burning IMO.
2012-04-24 10:22:52 PM
1 votes:

sweetmelissa31: My daughter Massachusella wore a sickle and hammer dress to prom.


My daughter Oregonne wore Birkenstocks and a flannel prom dress.
2012-04-24 10:21:41 PM
1 votes:
F n confederates...rot in hell...
2012-04-24 10:11:19 PM
1 votes:
Once more I bring up the flag compromise.

You want to celebrate Southern pride? Maybe you've got some ancestors that fought for the Confederacy and you want to recognize history without provoking controversy. Want to trot out the Lost Cause love but don't want to be called a racist?

Fly your state flag.

It's 100% historically accurate, instantly recognizeable to the ghost of your great-great-great-grandpappy, legitimizes your States Rights arguments in a modern framework and best of all... nobody will bother you.

The Confederate Battle Flag became a symbol of the postwar Ku Klux Klan used to terrorize freed slaves away from voting. Understandably, a sizeable portion of modern society will be offended by seeing your flag. So why wave that dirty rag when a clean alternative is lawfully flying outside your post office?

Would Robert E. Lee fly the rebel flag, or would he advocate reconciliation with the United States? We'll never know... oh wait, he actually did the second thing after the war. Why must the South spit on Lee's memory?

(Sadly, nobody has ever taken me up on the flag compromise. They love States Rights so much they can't bear to part with the nationalist symbol of a political bloc. Heritage and all.)
2012-04-24 10:10:48 PM
1 votes:

cmb53208: We had some kid up here in Wisconsin (in Waukesha County, where they hate Southerners for not being racist enough) whine that he wasn't allowed to pose with a Confederate flag for his senior pictures; he wanted to show regional pride or somesuch. When someone suggested he pose with his state flag, he kept whining that he was being discriminated against. In sum, this chick's just an attention whore just like this goof wanting to pose with the stars and bars.

Speaking as one who grew up in the South, I would love nothing better than to never see the Stars and Bars again. And for those of you up North who fly this thing, you're an even bigger farking idiot than a yokel in Alabama flying it outside his trailer


Know how I know you don't know what the stars n bars is?

/pet peeve
2012-04-24 10:10:26 PM
1 votes:

EZ1923: UCFRoadWarrior: Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"

I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?

This guy is the stupidest thing on the internet. I wasn't sure before, but this seals it.

Damn.


This is Fark man. No boobies... 'cause we gotta keep it clean. And you gotta filter out common swear words. But... a genital wart like UFCRoadWarrior is free to ramble on about whatever ignorant thing is on his mind...
2012-04-24 09:55:02 PM
1 votes:
We had some kid up here in Wisconsin (in Waukesha County, where they hate Southerners for not being racist enough) whine that he wasn't allowed to pose with a Confederate flag for his senior pictures; he wanted to show regional pride or somesuch. When someone suggested he pose with his state flag, he kept whining that he was being discriminated against. In sum, this chick's just an attention whore just like this goof wanting to pose with the stars and bars.

Speaking as one who grew up in the South, I would love nothing better than to never see the Stars and Bars again. And for those of you up North who fly this thing, you're an even bigger farking idiot than a yokel in Alabama flying it outside his trailer
2012-04-24 09:34:42 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Also, THIS is the "Stars and Bars"...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x355]

THIS is called "The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia"

[upload.wikimedia.org image 600x600]


as evidenced by the old

www.netstate.com

and current Georgia state flag

www.50states.com
2012-04-24 09:32:26 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Brytanica1: 99.9% of the people who have any desire to display the confederate flag are idiots, and douchebags.

It's common knowledge that in modern times the flag is associated with racism, and that is how people are going to percieve it. If you're flying it, and you happen to not be a racist, you're still an asshole because you are damn well aware of the image it represents, and you just want to be confrontational.

If you are flying it, and you are a racist, then you're an asshole because of your racism.


The confederate flag is nothing to be flown with pride. It represents treason, and failure, and the fact that a large portion of the country was willing to commit treason and kill their fellow countrymen to keep the right to enslave their fellow human beings, along with the various and sundry acts of torture, rape and murder that become part and parcel of any society that considers people to be property(Idiots, the south lost),

Slavery was the major factor in the civil war, the south practiced it, and that part of southern heritage, which most people do in fact associate with the confederacy, is something to be ashamed of. not proud.

Slavery is an abomination. It's disgusting, and a crime against everything humanity should represent. My mind cannot even begin to fathom how human beings could practice it.

How do you think that Native Americans feel about the flag that they were slaughtered under? We seem to fly it a lot. Should we consider their feelings on the matter or do they not count?


Not really the same thing. The American Flag like most flags has a lot of history behind it, both good and bad. Whereas the Confederate flag was made specifically and exclusively for the purpose of a break away traitorous movement that condoned and practiced slavery.

Also, the publilc conscious does not associate it with oppressing the native americans, in the same way that the Confederate Flag is with slavery, or the swastika with nazism.

If their was an actual movement of Native Americans who were deeply offended by it, it might actually be something I would give some thought. But to my knowledge there isn't.
2012-04-24 09:31:42 PM
1 votes:

UCFRoadWarrior: Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"

I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?


This guy is the stupidest thing on the internet. I wasn't sure before, but this seals it.

Damn.
2012-04-24 09:27:02 PM
1 votes:

Brytanica1: 99.9% of the people who have any desire to display the confederate flag are idiots, and douchebags.

It's common knowledge that in modern times the flag is associated with racism, and that is how people are going to percieve it. If you're flying it, and you happen to not be a racist, you're still an asshole because you are damn well aware of the image it represents, and you just want to be confrontational.

If you are flying it, and you are a racist, then you're an asshole because of your racism.


The confederate flag is nothing to be flown with pride. It represents treason, and failure, and the fact that a large portion of the country was willing to commit treason and kill their fellow countrymen to keep the right to enslave their fellow human beings, along with the various and sundry acts of torture, rape and murder that become part and parcel of any society that considers people to be property(Idiots, the south lost),

Slavery was the major factor in the civil war, the south practiced it, and that part of southern heritage, which most people do in fact associate with the confederacy, is something to be ashamed of. not proud.

Slavery is an abomination. It's disgusting, and a crime against everything humanity should represent. My mind cannot even begin to fathom how human beings could practice it.


Excellent post.

The swastika is a pretty cool-looking symbol, in my opinion. It was used for centuries as a holy symbol. But you just can't use it anymore because of the Nazi associations. Everyone knows it. And the cracker-ass crackers using the stars and bars know about its associations, too.
2012-04-24 09:21:57 PM
1 votes:

actualhuman: Silly Jesus:

How do you think that Native Americans feel about the flag that they were slaughtered under? We seem to fly it a lot. Should we consider their feelings on the matter or do they not count?

*not sure if serious or just very stupid*

/Nah... I'm pretty sure.


i.dailymail.co.uk
2012-04-24 09:20:05 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus:

How do you think that Native Americans feel about the flag that they were slaughtered under? We seem to fly it a lot. Should we consider their feelings on the matter or do they not count?


*not sure if serious or just very stupid*

/Nah... I'm pretty sure.
2012-04-24 09:13:08 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: what_now: You idiots know you got your asses thoroughly kicked, right? And 150 years later your standard of living is STILL below the rest of the country?

I think you might be overreacting to one white trash attention whore. I've spent four decades of life in the South, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard of a girl trying to fashion a prom dress out of the stars 'n bars. Not to mention that dress is a bit short for a prom dress. It looks more like a cocktail dress. This girl is just trashy all around.


That isn't the "stars 'n bars."
2012-04-24 09:07:40 PM
1 votes:

czetie: The perfect finishing touch is that she's wearing a pearl necklace. And not for the last time tonight, I'd wager.


Nah, we don't abide those fancy birth control methods like "pulling out".

/dirty work
2012-04-24 09:06:15 PM
1 votes:

burninbeaver: [i1117.photobucket.com image 320x184]

All the school bookin and histories you'll ever needed to know about is right up there in laser light.

Start it at 1:20 Link


..as someone who lives in Stone Mountain, getting a kick, etc..
2012-04-24 09:04:53 PM
1 votes:
HISTORY NOT HATE
2012-04-24 09:01:45 PM
1 votes:

Vegemite: truthseeker2083: UCFRoadWarrior: Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"

I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?

I used to live in the south, and heard that line all the time to take the blame off of the slack-jawed yokels. 'But the Afticans sold them, the southern plantation owners didn't capture them, so it wasn't their fault111!!1' Who bought them? Who forced them to work? Who beat them, chased them down like dogs when they tried to escape? The plantation owners, that's who. Stop trying to deflect the blame of slavery onto everyone but those who bought and exploited their fellow humans, it's disgusting.

Wait until someone refers to the Civil War as the war of Northern Aggression. That right there is something.


Yeah I heard that too. People used to ask where I was from, just used to say I was an Air Force brat. I mistakenly said from Ohio one time..... one time was all I needed to not say that again. You would think I had raped their mother and killed their dog from their reaction. Southerners be scary.
2012-04-24 08:58:45 PM
1 votes:

truthseeker2083: UCFRoadWarrior: Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"

I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?

I used to live in the south, and heard that line all the time to take the blame off of the slack-jawed yokels. 'But the Afticans sold them, the southern plantation owners didn't capture them, so it wasn't their fault111!!1' Who bought them? Who forced them to work? Who beat them, chased them down like dogs when they tried to escape? The plantation owners, that's who. Stop trying to deflect the blame of slavery onto everyone but those who bought and exploited their fellow humans, it's disgusting.


Wait until someone refers to the Civil War as the war of Northern Aggression. That right there is something.
2012-04-24 08:37:12 PM
1 votes:

jso2897: Maybe next year she can try a Nazi flag, or maybe a Viet Cong flag. Nothing shows patriotism like sporting the flag of a hostile foreign power.


Really why would she want to wear a Viet Cong flag, they are not white.

Plus they were Communist or Socialist or something.
2012-04-24 08:15:35 PM
1 votes:

sweetmelissa31: My daughter Massachusella wore a sickle and hammer dress to prom.


. . .exactly how many times can I vote funny? I'm going to use them all up on your post.
2012-04-24 08:11:17 PM
1 votes:
did a quick FB search, she is not the only Texanna around ಠ_ಠ
/initially read her name as "Texarkana"
2012-04-24 08:08:12 PM
1 votes:

spongeboob: You know what now I have to know what she is wearing under that dress, I'm thinking

[encrypted-tbn2.google.com image 251x201]
Thanks
/afraid image with a model would get me a timeout.



Or maybe

1.bp.blogspot.com

??
2012-04-24 08:02:34 PM
1 votes:

saintstryfe: herrDrFarkenstein: Ken at Popehat: It's a shame her date didn't show up dressed like Gen. Sherman.

Drunken US Grant frowns...

Wait, there's a NON drunken US Grant now? Is that like Golden Oreos?


Fun fact: if you spend a fifty at a bar or liquor store, The picture of Grant nods in approval.

As for Texanna, leave her alone guys. Let her have this one memory before her life is overrun with bastard children, doublewide trailers, welfare, and a story about how she went heels up with one of Larry the Cable Guy's roadies.
2012-04-24 07:59:20 PM
1 votes:
The comments on Wonkette are comedy gold, too. Shamelessly stolen: The perfect finishing touch is that she's wearing a pearl necklace. And not for the last time tonight, I'd wager.
2012-04-24 07:40:03 PM
1 votes:
odd. i thought the confederate flag was white

you know, for surrenderp
2012-04-24 07:36:01 PM
1 votes:
It's a shame her date didn't show up dressed like Gen. Sherman.
2012-04-24 07:34:37 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: [Tennessean, via Wonkette operative "keepfnthatchicken"]

OK, which Farker submitted this article to Wonkette? And was it the same one who submitted Wonkette's article to Fark?

SUBCEPTION
2012-04-24 07:31:09 PM
1 votes:
Her name is "Texanna"

She's a lost cause.
2012-04-24 07:28:40 PM
1 votes:
I wonder how she'd react to a person wearing a dress with, say, Sherman's face plastered on it?
2012-04-24 07:27:23 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: I think you might be overreacting to one white trash attention whore. I've spent four decades of life in the South, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard of a girl trying to fashion a prom dress out of the stars 'n bars. Not to mention that dress is a bit short for a prom dress. It looks more like a cocktail dress. This girl is just trashy all around.


There was also this chick a few years ago. I remember it being on here. She also said it wasn't race, it was her heritage. Take note of the backdrop.
2012-04-24 07:23:02 PM
1 votes:
I just hope she was able to return the dress unharmed to Michael Hayes.
media.onsugar.com


/FAT STREET ATLANTA GA
2012-04-24 07:20:01 PM
1 votes:

nopokerface: Is it bad that I knew she'd be fat?


She's skinnier than I thought she'd be.
2012-04-24 07:18:19 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: This may shock some of you, but I read the comments on the article from the Tennessean and it appears that many people have misinterpreted "freedom of speech" to mean "I can do whatever I want and you can't say mean things to me about it!"


I guess not as bad as misinterpreting one flag to mean "slavery"....while displaying African flags is OK...even though Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery...and Africans still enslave other Africans today? But those flags meaning slavery are OK?
2012-04-24 05:24:28 PM
1 votes:

what_now: [cmsimg.jacksonsun.com image 300x534]

She's wearing farking flipflops.


Classy.
2012-04-24 05:22:04 PM
1 votes:
You lost. Get over it.
2012-04-24 05:12:18 PM
1 votes:
2012-04-24 05:05:08 PM
1 votes:
It's just a red dress with a stripe on it. Why not just let her wear what she wants?
2012-04-24 04:48:02 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: Texanna Edwards

Texanna is the new Crystal.


So... there's going to be an influx of them soon that will be willing to show me their titties and gyrate on my crotch for a dollar?
2012-04-24 04:47:43 PM
1 votes:
I'd fight battle at her Manassas Gap, if you know what I'm saying.
2012-04-24 04:46:44 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: I've spent four decades of life in the South, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard of a girl trying to fashion a prom dress out of the stars 'n bars.


Dresses made from curtains are much more common.

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-04-24 04:45:04 PM
1 votes:
Texanna Edwards

Texanna is the new Crystal.
2012-04-24 04:41:14 PM
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Her date doesn't care what she wears, so long as she bends over and takes it up the ass like Lee did at Appomattox Courthouse.


Zing!
2012-04-24 04:31:49 PM
1 votes:

sweetmelissa31: My daughter Massachusella wore a sickle and hammer dress to prom.


It's only a little less appropriate.
2012-04-24 04:27:19 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: high school senior Texanna Edwards just wanted to dress up as the muscle car from "The Dukes Of Hazzard," the General Lee.


Ohhh bullshiat. If that were true your entire dress would be orange and a confederate flag on just the back. Just admit you're a racist attention whore and we can move on.


She didn't want people asking her if she was really a size 01.
2012-04-24 04:22:28 PM
1 votes:

sweetmelissa31: My daughter Massachusella wore a sickle and hammer dress to prom.


That's so awesome you've been added to my Favorites list.
2012-04-24 04:22:17 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: high school senior Texanna Edwards just wanted to dress up as the muscle car from "The Dukes Of Hazzard," the General Lee.


Ohhh bullshiat. If that were true your entire dress would be orange and a confederate flag on just the back. Just admit you're a racist attention whore and we can move on.


And she's have a horn button that we could press when jumping her.
2012-04-24 04:05:10 PM
1 votes:
The smug look on her face makes the fact that she lost all the sweeter.
2012-04-24 03:51:10 PM
1 votes:
WTF?
 
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