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2012-04-24 05:05:02 PM  
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Mad Nancy disease found in California; USDA says no human threat

(Reuters) - The U.S. Agriculture Department confirmed on Tuesday a California Nancy had mad Nancy disease, or nancifine spongiform encephalopathy (NSE), the fourth such U.S. case since it was first found here in 2003, but said no parts of Nancy entered the nation's food supply.

John Clifford, the USDA's chief veterinary officer, said there was "no cause for alarm" from Nancy, who was found at a rendering plant that processes diseased or sick animals into non-edible products for use in things like soap or glue.

Mad Nancy, which is believed to cause the deadly brain disease Creutzfeldt-Jakob in humans who eat infected parts from Nancys with the disease, was first found in the United States in late 2003, causing a nearly $3 billion slump in the nation's greef exports the following year.

While there is no evidence that humans can catch it from drinking the milk of an infected Nancy, fears of a potential backlash among consumers and big importers of U.S.greef caused Chicago live Nancy futures drop sharply.

The USDA has begun to notify authorities at the World Organization for Nancy Health (ONE) as well as U.S. trading partners, but the finding should not affect the nation's greef exports, Clifford said. The USDA is still tracing the exact life of the infected Nancy, which was found at an undisclosed rendering facility in central California.

The carcass of the Nancy, which the USDA said was infected by an "atypical" form of the disease, would be destroyed. The Nancy was not believed to have contracted the disease by eating contaminated food, the USDA added.

"There is really no concern for alarm here with regards to this Nancy. Both human health and Nancy health are protected with regards to this issue," Clifford told reporters at a briefing at USDA headquarters.

Ahead of the announcement, rumors of the case pushed live Nancy futures on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange down by as much as the 3-cent-per-lb daily limit. But prices pared some losses after the USDA said Nancy had not entered the food chain.

"The impact should not affect exports. Now, I'm not saying it may or may not, but it should not," Clifford said, noting that the United States has been recognized by authorities as having taken steps to control its risks for the disease.

Greef exports plunged nearly 75 percent in 2004 in the wake of the first U.S. incident in late-2003, with USDA reporting net cancellations of greef sales in five out of the first six weeks following the news. Overall greef exports were 321,967 tonnes (292,084 tons) in 2004, down from 1.27 million tonnes in the previous year.

Sales would not rebound to more than 1 million tonnes until 2010. The value of U.S. greef exports totaled $809 million in 2004, down from $3.86 billion in 2003, according to the U.S. Meat Federation.

JBS USA, a unit of the world's largest greef producer Brazil-based JBS SA, said on Tuesday the company was confident U.S. greef exports, which surged to a record high last year - would not be affected by this latest case of mad Nancy disease.
 
2012-04-24 05:07:21 PM  
Mytch: Mmmm, prions.

This. Prions are nasty little buggers. Lifeless, self replicating molecules that eat your brain.

Honestly though, the state of factory animal farming in this nation is repulsive. I love fraking beef, pork, and anything else that moves and requires an open flame... but even I'm starting to get worried that cramping them in closest sized pens and feeing them back their own shiat, piss, and ground up brethren is getting dangerous.

Our food supplies is very tainted and very poor, and it's leeching over into major health issues.

Biggest problem is we have the appearance of abundant choice, but reality is we don't. We have brand choice, but not product choice.
 
2012-04-24 05:07:29 PM  
i1.cpcache.com
 
2012-04-24 05:07:47 PM  
But it's okay, because we've been eating pink slime for years and it's thoroughly treated to be 100% safe for human consumption.
 
2012-04-24 05:11:10 PM  
Is this about Rosie O'Donnel not wanting Lindsey Lohan to play Elizabeth Taylor?

/dnrtfa
 
2012-04-24 05:11:14 PM  
wildcardjack: Since prion diseases are caused by a misfolded protein I'm more surprised that it isn't super common. Billions of critters folding millions of proteins every day, and 99.9999999% of the time it goes off without creating prions.

I wonder if scavengers have a defense against this type of disease, or do scavengers not eat other scavengers for just this sort of reason.

I can actually see evolutionary selection in favor of this disease in herd animals. Animal gets on in years, has already had two or three offspring. Becomes the slow one picked off by predators, gives predators the prion disease thus protecting it's offspring by killing the predators.


Nature takes care of itself. Not every dead animal ends up being other animal food. Being a rare disease, it's like striking the lottery.

Factory farms tend to take all waste, mix it, and feed it back to their livestock. Rinse, repeat. It becomes very easy to infect a whole population quickly.
 
2012-04-24 05:12:15 PM  
That's alright. My long term health plan is managed by Smith & Wesson.
 
2012-04-24 05:13:23 PM  
 
2012-04-24 05:14:03 PM  

peg_leg: Is this about Rosie O'Donnel not wanting Lindsey Lohan to play Elizabeth Taylor?

/dnrtfa


No, but that works too.
 
2012-04-24 05:15:53 PM  
Mad Cow Disease in Canada = close the borders! Alert the world! Shun Canada!

Mad Cow Disease in USA = nothing to see here. not a big deal.
 
2012-04-24 05:17:57 PM  
thebigmamablog.com
 
2012-04-24 05:20:48 PM  

TyrantII: Mytch: Mmmm, prions.

This. Prions are nasty little buggers. Lifeless, self replicating molecules that eat your brain.

Honestly though, the state of factory animal farming in this nation is repulsive. I love fraking beef, pork, and anything else that moves and requires an open flame... but even I'm starting to get worried that cramping them in closest sized pens and feeing them back their own shiat, piss, and ground up brethren is getting dangerous.

Our food supplies is very tainted and very poor, and it's leeching over into major health issues.

Biggest problem is we have the appearance of abundant choice, but reality is we don't. We have brand choice, but not product choice.


If you have the cash, you can find a local farmer to supply your beef. It's a less efficient use of resources(due to economy of scale), but there are side benefits, like money staying in the local economy longer, fostering community bonds, and having some peace of mind that your food meets your standards as well as USDA ones.

The state of food production gives us the most caloric bang for buck, and ignores the added health costs of such a large amount of cheap calories (when coupled with a largely sedentary population) and the environmental impacts of that food's production.

Be aware. A part of the local food movement is happily rejecting the science behind mad cow disease, with some advocates saying go ahead and eat cow brains, the fears are overblown, and brain is good for you. These same people also tend to drink raw milk, and many of them don't mind using composted human waste for fertilizer, so the problem is probably self-correcting.

//I travel in strange circles, because hidden in the woo there is sometimes a kernel of truth.
 
2012-04-24 05:21:55 PM  
It's pretty tough to "kill" prions:

The World Health Organization recommends any of the following three procedures for the sterilization of all heat-resistant surgical instruments to ensure that they are not contaminated with prions:

Immerse in a pan containing 1N NaOH and heat in a gravity-displacement autoclave at 121°C for 30 minutes; clean; rinse in water; and then perform routine sterilization processes.
Immerse in 1N NaOH or sodium hypochlorite (20,000 parts per million available chlorine) for 1 hour; transfer instruments to water; heat in a gravity-displacement autoclave at 121°C for 1 hour; clean; and then perform routine sterilization processes.
Immerse in 1N NaOH or sodium hypochlorite (20,000 parts per million available chlorine) for 1 hour; remove and rinse in water, then transfer to an open pan and heat in a gravity-displacement (121°C) or in a porous-load (134°C) autoclave for 1 hour; clean; and then perform routine sterilization processes.
 
2012-04-24 05:23:49 PM  
John Clifford, the USDA's chief veterinary officer, said there was "no cause for alarm" from the animal, which was found at a rendering plant that processes diseased or sick animals into non-edible products for use in things like soap or glue.



So now I have to stop bathing and sniffing glue? How is that no cause for alarm?
 
2012-04-24 05:24:15 PM  
You want to know something terrifying? Only one out of every 18,000 meat cows are tested for this in the US, and they still find cases. And that figure might even be a lie. Some go as far to say the only ones they find are in cows that cannot stand anymore due to the disease progressing that far. Every other country is much stricter. Japan is the strictest, and test every single cow.

In humans it often progresses slowly, and is frequently falsely diagnosed as dementia, Alzheimer's, or any number of other neuro-degenerative diseases.
 
2012-04-24 05:24:41 PM  
The carcass of the cow, which the USDA said was infected by an "atypical" form of the disease, would be destroyed. The cow was not believed to have contracted the disease by eating contaminated food, the USDA added.

Then how did it get the disease?
 
2012-04-24 05:27:45 PM  

Xcott: The carcass of the cow, which the USDA said was infected by an "atypical" form of the disease, would be destroyed. The cow was not believed to have contracted the disease by eating contaminated food, the USDA added.

Then how did it get the disease?


unprotected sex and intravenous drug use
 
2012-04-24 05:28:51 PM  

Xcott: Then how did it get the disease?


Prion diseases can develop spontaneously, much like cancer.
 
2012-04-24 05:33:54 PM  

wildcardjack: Since prion diseases are caused by a misfolded protein I'm more surprised that it isn't super common. Billions of critters folding millions of proteins every day, and 99.9999999% of the time it goes off without creating prions.


Misfolded proteins happen all the time, their accumulation is one of the causes of the aging process. Misfolded proteins that can replicate themselves by tearing up other, more stable proteins are statistically far more unlikely, possibly even as unlikely as the event that generated the original self-replicating acid, DNA
 
2012-04-24 05:36:58 PM  
madaboutmadcow.web.unc.edu
moooooovin on up!
 
2012-04-24 05:37:39 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: I though California had happy cows.


I came here for a happy cows reference and am leaving happy (unless that Whopper I just ate was infected, in which case I'm mad.)
 
2012-04-24 05:41:35 PM  

Xcott: Then how did it get the disease?


If you follow the chain of "animal Y got it by eating bits of animal X" back far enough, you will eventually reach an animal who did not get it by eating someone else.
 
2012-04-24 05:44:08 PM  

Xcott: The carcass of the cow, which the USDA said was infected by an "atypical" form of the disease, would be destroyed. The cow was not believed to have contracted the disease by eating contaminated food, the USDA added.

Then how did it get the disease?


Intelligent design.

/first thing I thought when the first prions were isolated: "some butthurt meat industry is going to weaponize this"
//surprised it took this long, the CDC and USDA must have been all over this
 
2012-04-24 05:45:23 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: You want to know something terrifying? Only one out of every 18,000 meat cows are tested for this in the US, and they still find cases. And that figure might even be a lie. Some go as far to say the only ones they find are in cows that cannot stand anymore due to the disease progressing that far. Every other country is much stricter. Japan is the strictest, and test every single cow.

In humans it often progresses slowly, and is frequently falsely diagnosed as dementia, Alzheimer's, or any number of other neuro-degenerative diseases.


This is why you always save one bullet.
 
2012-04-24 05:49:29 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: It's pretty tough to "kill" prions:

The World Health Organization recommends any of the following three procedures for the sterilization of all heat-resistant surgical instruments to ensure that they are not contaminated with prions:

Immerse in a pan containing 1N NaOH and heat in a gravity-displacement autoclave at 121°C for 30 minutes; clean; rinse in water; and then perform routine sterilization processes.
Immerse in 1N NaOH or sodium hypochlorite (20,000 parts per million available chlorine) for 1 hour; transfer instruments to water; heat in a gravity-displacement autoclave at 121°C for 1 hour; clean; and then perform routine sterilization processes.
Immerse in 1N NaOH or sodium hypochlorite (20,000 parts per million available chlorine) for 1 hour; remove and rinse in water, then transfer to an open pan and heat in a gravity-displacement (121°C) or in a porous-load (134°C) autoclave for 1 hour; clean; and then perform routine sterilization processes.


First time I read up on MCD and really studied it I went from mildly amused to scared farking shiatless by the time I was done. Its not alive, its protein "gone wrong", you cant kill it at all. Cook yer steak till well done? doesnt matter. cooked till damn near charcoal? Tough shiat welcome to yer uncurable disease that turns your brain into swiss cheese. Your chances of getting infected as a human from cow in any country is extremely low, thats the good news! If you get infected...write out your will.....kiss your loved ones goodbye and blow your farking brains out with the nearest firearm before you lose the capacity to do so.

Cannibals long ago had their own version of this disease from eating brains and spines from their friends and neighbors. Its like every now and then nature sends a clear message of what she finds unacceptable. Brains are a no-no apparently.
 
2012-04-24 05:51:44 PM  
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I think it's the roids
 
2012-04-24 06:06:50 PM  
Btw, happy cows come from Wisconsin. California cows aren't happy, they're on meds.
 
2012-04-24 06:13:43 PM  

HoratioGates: Manfred J. Hattan: I though California had happy cows.

I came here for a happy cows reference and am leaving happy (unless that Whopper I just ate was infected, in which case I'm mad.)


If you were eating a Whopper, you're mad regardless.
 
2012-04-24 06:15:00 PM  
And here I am getting ready to cook up a nice sirloin. I'll just cook it real good and since it doesn't effect humuns then I should be great to go anywai.
 
2012-04-24 06:16:56 PM  

oldfarthenry: Well-well-well-well-well! Looks like them borders will have to be closed off for Yank beef.
We Canucks will smugly supply the foreign markets while y'all deal with this!


Who do you thinks inspects for mad cow in Alberta beef? Why yes, it is the CFIA, which the federal government just hacked to pieces.
 
2012-04-24 06:23:57 PM  
Shoot, shovel, shut-up.
 
2012-04-24 06:24:11 PM  
A un-treatable incurable 100% fatal disease? No worries.
 
2012-04-24 06:25:34 PM  
They should treat all beef with ammonia to prevent anything harmful from getting in. Also, Rick Perry said it was ok.
static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-04-24 06:30:57 PM  
What a mad cow might look like...
creditsuit.org

/Hot
 
2012-04-24 06:33:17 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: You want to know something terrifying? Only one out of every 18,000 meat cows are tested for this in the US, and they still find cases. And that figure might even be a lie. Some go as far to say the only ones they find are in cows that cannot stand anymore due to the disease progressing that far. Every other country is much stricter. Japan is the strictest, and test every single cow.

In humans it often progresses slowly, and is frequently falsely diagnosed as dementia, Alzheimer's, or any number of other neuro-degenerative diseases.


Most cattle are eaten at 3 years or less of age, much less than the time it takes for prion diseases to develop. That's why USDA guidelines are tend to concentrate on older cattle >6 years. The USDA tends to overreach and not under treat these situations, probably because they can target the producers, and not the larger processors.

Dad probably lost his net profit for the next 6 months:(
 
2012-04-24 06:34:03 PM  

Sean M: Okay, who the hell is feeding cows parts from dead cows again? If you've not learned it in school, cows are herbivores, not omnivores nor carnivores.

BSE doesn't spread via all natural pasture grass.


Classical BSE doesn't spread that way, no (in the case of classical BSE, the likely intro into cattle involved animal feed containing rendered sheep that had contracted scrapie, another TSE).

That said--there IS at least one TSE that DOES seem to be spread--if not by grass--by grass contaminated with bodily fluids (chronic wasting disease in deer, which can be spread deer-to-deer via feces, saliva or urine), there are some TSEs where we're not entirely sure how they're spread in their animal vectors ("mad squirrel disease", a little-documented TSE that has been linked to cases of nvCJD in parts of Kentucky via consumption of squirrel brains), and--to make it even worse--there are known cases where a TSE arises spontaneously due to a protein folding wrong (often due to a genetic defect) and becoming an infectious prion.

Spontaneous TSEs in humans include the non-mad-cow-disease forms of Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease, fatal familial insomnia, and Gerstmann-Straussler-Scheinker disease; some of these have a clear genetic link in the unlucky "patient zero", some arise spontaneously. These are known to be TSEs because sometimes people have been unlucky enough to be recipients of corneal transplants, dura mater transplants, or other organ or tissue transplants from someone who died of CJD, FFI, or GSSD and contracted these prion diseases as a result.

The first TSE documented was probably a spontaneous TSE that got propogated via funerary customs--kuru likely started out as a spontaneous TSE that got amplified among the Papuan tribe it was rife in due to traditional funerary customs that included cannibalism, particularly of the brains.

Now, I mention spontaneous TSEs because--according to the article (haven't seen much on this on emerging infectious disease lists yet but we should soonish, assuming the cow is necropsied)--this was apparently an atypical presentation of BSE, indicating one of two things--either this may have been a spontaneous case similar to how CJD (the non-mad-cow related kind) sometimes develops spontaneously in humans, or this could be a form of BSE related to a different TSE not related to scrapie-derived BSE (the most likely suspect in this case would be a cow that somehow caught the "chronic wasting disease" TSE from deer).

Still not smart to eat the downer or derpy cows, and you certainly don't want to be feeding Bessie or Angus animal by-products (which is now illegal in North America), but on rare occasion cows CAN develop "atypical mad cow" without ever being exposed to or bred from a line where "mad cow" occurs and living happily as a grass-fed moo all its life. Here's hoping it was just one of those rare cases :P
 
2012-04-24 06:44:45 PM  
Earlier it was pink slime that ruined my appetite for beef and my inability to trust the FDA even a little bit. I'm having a hard time eating any meat that is not bacon lately and I'm sure there will eventually be lax enough standards that even bacon will one day have some hidden threat.

If any organization needs to aggressively police its area of focus like we are seeing certain police forces in this country, it is the people who are supposed to be in charge of the food.

Transfer some of the more aggressive, taser-happy cop away from the people they are abusing now and have them scare the living shiat out of the people who can kill large numbers of people by selling bad food.
 
2012-04-24 06:59:34 PM  
If it makes beef prices plummet, I'm all for it.
 
2012-04-24 07:10:42 PM  

rev. dave: Earlier it was pink slime that ruined my appetite for beef and my inability to trust the FDA even a little bit. I'm having a hard time eating any meat that is not bacon lately and I'm sure there will eventually be lax enough standards that even bacon will one day have some hidden threat.

If any organization needs to aggressively police its area of focus like we are seeing certain police forces in this country, it is the people who are supposed to be in charge of the food.

Transfer some of the more aggressive, taser-happy cop away from the people they are abusing now and have them scare the living shiat out of the people who can kill large numbers of people by selling bad food.


How many FDA inspectors can we buy with 10 F-22s?


/Wait, scratch that. I have a much more awesome idea.
//Let's kill all the cows with our F-22s... you know, just to be safe.
//SHOCK AND AWE PRIONS!!! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT!??!!
 
2012-04-24 07:16:37 PM  

rev. dave: Earlier it was pink slime that ruined my appetite for beef and my inability to trust the FDA even a little bit. I'm having a hard time eating any meat that is not bacon lately and I'm sure there will eventually be lax enough standards that even bacon will one day have some hidden threat.

If any organization needs to aggressively police its area of focus like we are seeing certain police forces in this country, it is the people who are supposed to be in charge of the food.

Transfer some of the more aggressive, taser-happy cop away from the people they are abusing now and have them scare the living shiat out of the people who can kill large numbers of people by selling bad food.


Good luck with that--when health departments have tried to enforce the standards we have NOW in the face of actual food-poisoning epidemics (in particular, when there have been crackdowns on various "raw milk" selling schemes when someone inevitably ends up getting pasturella or some nasty version of E. coli from unpasterurised milk) people pretty much go into Braveheart Mode and start screaming "OH NOES YOU JACKBOOTED THUGS ARE STOMPIN' ALL OVER MY FREEDUMBS!!!!11one!".

Not joking on this, either...the people fighting state regulations requiring milk that's being sold to be pasteurised--which started out due to public health concerns over outbreaks of intestinal diseases (not to mention bovine TB) linked to raw milk consumption--are pretty much an example of this whole mentality of "OH NOES DON'T RESTRICT SOMETHING I LIKE!!!".

They not only practically accuse anyone proposing enforcing the laws we have now of being a card-carrying member of the Nazi and Communist Parties simultaneously but also accuse them of attempting to murder them or their children because "OH NOES PASTEURISATION DESTROYS THE NATURAL ENZYMES AND ORGONE LIFE ENERGY OF THE MILK!!!11one!". No matter that pretty much the public health agencies in question are pretty much trying to keep their kids from potentially dying or being made very sick by foodborne illnesses linked to raw milk consumption. Hell, I've experienced this personally on Fark even when presenting info from pre-pasteurisation-era childrearing books that even then noted raw milk was a risk to children and recommended boiling the shiat out of it before ever giving it to kids.

There's also other stuff that's even DERPIER. There is this...RAGE in certain circles over the USDA proposing basic biosafety regulations for farms (to reduce the chance of ickies getting into the food chain) including--OH NOES!--registration of herds so that if Bessie or Porky DOES have something horrible that we don't want into the food chain that it'll be easier to do necessary quarantines and tracing down the problematic herd. It's something that pretty much most countries do to prevent serious foodborne illnesses...but to hear some folks scream about it, you're practically having the Red Army invading Amish farms and backyard chicken-ranchers and goat-farmers and having the Hammer and Sickle branded on the livestock with the threat of being thrown into some horrible gulag for the crime of feeding the fainting goats chewy field corn and having animals not in Your Personal Alloted Quota.

I've even seen people screaming about proposed "place of origin" documentation for stuff like food sold at farmer's markets (where a surprising amount ISN'T grown in someone's backyard but by the same industrial farmers that sell to stores) as being some sort of UN plot meant to make Victory Gardens in one's backyard illegal (whereas, again, this is meant as a measure to trace down the source of contamination in the event of food-poisoning epidemics...basically if someone's rutabagas are contaminated with E. coli they want to know the offending rutabagas so as to get them off the market). Sometimes ludicrously claiming that one would go to Federal prison for the High Crime Of Giving Undocumented Zucchini To One's Neighbours, even. :P

And this is completely aside from Big Agro and commercialised food companies who have been fighting ingredient-source-of-origin labeling tooth and nail (so as to keep bringing in cheap Chinese contaminated crap covertly). :P
 
2012-04-24 07:20:32 PM  

Xcott: The carcass of the cow, which the USDA said was infected by an "atypical" form of the disease, would be destroyed. The cow was not believed to have contracted the disease by eating contaminated food, the USDA added.

Then how did it get the disease?


Immaculate conception.

/Elvis didn't do no drugs.
 
2012-04-24 07:22:32 PM  
Tatterdemalian: Misfolded proteins happen all the time, their accumulation is one of the causes of the aging process. Misfolded proteins that can replicate themselves by tearing up other, more stable proteins are statistically far more unlikely,

Unless it's the result of a botched experiment.

www.dealspwn.com
 
2012-04-24 07:28:05 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: Good luck with that--when health departments have tried to enforce the standards we have NOW in the face of actual food-poisoning epidemics (in particular, when there have been crackdowns on various "raw milk" selling schemes when someone inevitably ends up getting pasturella or some nasty version of E. coli from unpasterurised milk) people pretty much go into Braveheart Mode and start screaming "OH NOES YOU JACKBOOTED THUGS ARE STOMPIN' ALL OVER MY FREEDUMBS!!!!11one!".

Not joking on this, either...the people fighting state regulations requiring milk that's being sold to be pasteurised--which started out due to public health concerns over outbreaks of intestinal diseases (not to mention bovine TB) linked to raw milk consumption--are pretty much an example of this whole mentality of "OH NOES DON'T RESTRICT SOMETHING I LIKE!!!".

They not only practically accuse anyone proposing enforcing the laws we have now of being a card-carrying member of the Nazi and Communist Parties simultaneously but also accuse them of attempting to murder them or their children because "OH NOES PASTEURISATION DESTROYS THE NATURAL ENZYMES AND ORGONE LIFE ENERGY OF THE MILK!!!11one!". No matter that pretty much the public health agencies in question are pretty much trying to keep their kids from potentially dying or being made very sick by foodborne illnesses linked to raw milk consumption. Hell, I've experienced this personally on Fark even when presenting info from pre-pasteurisation-era childrearing books that even then noted raw milk was a risk to children and recommended boiling the shiat out of it before ever giving it to kids.

There's also other stuff that's even DERPIER....


This this this. Even after kids get sick and put in the hospital Link, the raw milk drinking crowd circles the wagon and says "Well, I have never gotten sick"

Mention that GMO science isn't the devil, and watch out.
 
2012-04-24 07:43:06 PM  

rev. dave: Earlier it was pink slime that ruined my appetite for beef and my inability to trust the FDA even a little bit. I'm having a hard time eating any meat that is not bacon lately and I'm sure there will eventually be lax enough standards that even bacon will one day have some hidden threat.

If any organization needs to aggressively police its area of focus like we are seeing certain police forces in this country, it is the people who are supposed to be in charge of the food.

Transfer some of the more aggressive, taser-happy cop away from the people they are abusing now and have them scare the living shiat out of the people who can kill large numbers of people by selling bad food.


Don't worry, someone right here on Fark told me that there's nothing in pink slime we need to worry about, that it's all just meat and anyway it's been treated to be 100% safe for human consumption. After all, we've been eating it since 2004 and nobody told you it was bad before now, so there's nothing to be upset about.

So don't panic for a second until someone comes down with BSE from eating pink slime--we'll just disregard the fact that it could have been foreseen and prevented by not eating gunk meat off the slaughterhouse floor. The FDA cleared it for human consumption after all.
 
2012-04-24 08:16:39 PM  
angrywhitedude.com
 
2012-04-24 09:26:26 PM  

meat0918: Great Porn Dragon: Good luck with that--when health departments have tried to enforce the standards we have NOW in the face of actual food-poisoning epidemics (in particular, when there have been crackdowns on various "raw milk" selling schemes when someone inevitably ends up getting pasturella or some nasty version of E. coli from unpasterurised milk) people pretty much go into Braveheart Mode and start screaming "OH NOES YOU JACKBOOTED THUGS ARE STOMPIN' ALL OVER MY FREEDUMBS!!!!11one!".

Not joking on this, either...the people fighting state regulations requiring milk that's being sold to be pasteurised--which started out due to public health concerns over outbreaks of intestinal diseases (not to mention bovine TB) linked to raw milk consumption--are pretty much an example of this whole mentality of "OH NOES DON'T RESTRICT SOMETHING I LIKE!!!".

They not only practically accuse anyone proposing enforcing the laws we have now of being a card-carrying member of the Nazi and Communist Parties simultaneously but also accuse them of attempting to murder them or their children because "OH NOES PASTEURISATION DESTROYS THE NATURAL ENZYMES AND ORGONE LIFE ENERGY OF THE MILK!!!11one!". No matter that pretty much the public health agencies in question are pretty much trying to keep their kids from potentially dying or being made very sick by foodborne illnesses linked to raw milk consumption. Hell, I've experienced this personally on Fark even when presenting info from pre-pasteurisation-era childrearing books that even then noted raw milk was a risk to children and recommended boiling the shiat out of it before ever giving it to kids.

There's also other stuff that's even DERPIER....

This this this. Even after kids get sick and put in the hospital Link, the raw milk drinking crowd circles the wagon and says "Well, I have never gotten sick"

Mention that GMO science isn't the devil, and watch out.


Never mention Mendelian genetics to someone railing against GMO. They have no idea they've been eating GMO their entire lives and will call you a liar for stating their 'Organic' food has no GMOs in it. fark people are stupid. I have to bite my tongue so hard when my mom brings up whatever homeopathic remedy she is currently using.
 
2012-04-24 10:25:31 PM  
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Milk from mal-contented cows.
 
2012-04-24 10:40:23 PM  
webpages.charter.net

/recycled, no votey. harrrrrr
 
2012-04-24 11:27:48 PM  

lordargent: Tatterdemalian: Misfolded proteins happen all the time, their accumulation is one of the causes of the aging process. Misfolded proteins that can replicate themselves by tearing up other, more stable proteins are statistically far more unlikely,

Unless it's the result of a botched experiment.

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I don't think Blacklight ever replicated himself, but I haven't played Prototype 2 yet.

/oh damn, now I'm imagining it featuring Mercer getting pregnant, and the whole game turning into a wacky comedy like "Junior" halfway through
 
2012-04-24 11:32:22 PM  
Man, ANYTHING to keep Obama from being re-elected...these GOP guys are hardcore...
 
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