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2012-04-24 11:54:17 AM  
8 votes:
It is shocking and saddening that a small number of people like this, who have no expertise in the areas of study they're affecting, have so much power over what kids learn.

This is why the rest of the civilized world laughs at us.
2012-04-24 12:54:47 PM  
4 votes:

Urbn: Randomly assigning people to elected positions, like school boards, would be better than the self-selected set of morons that we end up with in our current system.

/Seriously
//Science Friday podcasts FTW!


My personal preference would be that the Texas Board of Education is made up of, say, eight commissioners. Four would be picked by the Chancellors of the University of Texas, two by direct election, and two by sortition.
2012-04-24 12:53:57 PM  
4 votes:

Corvus: I really want to watch this but I hate seeing people looking like idiots, even when they are one and deserve it.


Then why do you have a Fark account?
2012-04-24 12:10:07 PM  
4 votes:
If America knew back in 1848 how the Southwest would turn out, I'd hope they'd have let Mexico keep it.
2012-04-24 01:08:18 PM  
3 votes:
"After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980s; and (3) ID's negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. ...It is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. "
-Kitzmiller v. Dover

Easily one of the more sound asskickings ever issued forth from a judge.
2012-04-24 01:01:17 PM  
3 votes:
I would watch that, but I really don't want to feel stabby for the rest of the day.

These freaks are defeating me, because I've become so exasperated at their foolishness that I now actively avoid their derp instead of facing it head on and shooting it to pieces. What's the point of trying to reason with people when they take pride in rejecting rational thought?
2012-04-24 12:46:07 PM  
3 votes:
So, if men and dinosaurs shared the Earth, howcum there is no mention of them at all in the bible? Seriously?
2012-04-24 12:43:12 PM  
3 votes:

dramboxf: keylock71: Do these morons not realize that Colbert is an comedy act ridiculing their backwards beliefs? I can understand when the show first came on, but it's not like it's a big secret.

This is also the part I don't get -- didn't he recognize that he was being utterly ridiculed?


If he doesn't recognize that the Earth isn't 3,000 years old, he's not going to recognize satire.
2012-04-24 12:39:25 PM  
3 votes:
That Don McLeroy is personally embarrassing to me as a Texan. The fact he exists makes me feel shame for the location of my birthplace. That's f*cked up.
2012-04-24 12:30:03 PM  
3 votes:
people.virginia.edu
2012-04-24 01:52:11 PM  
2 votes:

the_ut_tick: Texas fought for its own independence and is the only state to be its own nation.


Hawaii would like a word with you.
2012-04-24 01:26:22 PM  
2 votes:
I mean prokaryotes are okay, but once you add the nucleus it's like, where did that come from? I don't really trust flagella either.
2012-04-24 01:05:23 PM  
2 votes:

Relatively Obscure: I caught a bit of that last night. That guy couldn't even articulate his own point. He shouldn't be helping to determine the goddamn cafeteria menu, let alone what goes in text books.


In a perfect society, Mr. "I don't believe in science" would be pat gently on the head and given a job doing menial tasks... He most certainly would not have been put in a position to determine the content of school text books.
2012-04-24 12:54:42 PM  
2 votes:

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That Don McLeroy is personally embarrassing to me as a Texan. The fact he exists makes me feel shame for the location of my birthplace. That's f*cked up.


No offense, but he's one of millions in texas, and the world would be a better place if we kicked them all out of the union.
2012-04-24 12:53:33 PM  
2 votes:
So half of Americas textbooks come from California and the other half come from Texas and are double checked for truthiness by that dipshiat?

Charming.

That noted, funny interview. Particularly liked the way Colbert's "evolving Devil lying about evolution" thing flew right over the guys head while the audience totally got it on the DL.
2012-04-24 12:45:21 PM  
2 votes:

Trivia Jockey: If he doesn't recognize that the Earth isn't 3,000 years old, he's not going to recognize satire.


You'd think someone in his camp would say, "Hey, waitaminute... this guy is a comedian..."

Plus, the zingers were just flying by. The one about majority-vote-reality was hysterical.
2012-04-24 12:27:01 PM  
2 votes:
Do these morons not realize that Colbert is an comedy act ridiculing their backwards beliefs? I can understand when the show first came on, but it's not like it's a big secret.

That this man was once in charge of deciding what goes into text books in this country is pathetic.
2012-04-24 12:18:10 PM  
2 votes:
2012-04-24 09:07:58 PM  
1 votes:

EngineerAU: I dated a woman who gave that explanation but also felt strongly that the Bible should be taken absolutely literally and never interpreted.


How do you even get two chapters into Genesis without that breaking down?

Which came first, man or birds?
2012-04-24 06:36:22 PM  
1 votes:

verbaltoxin: Based on how Texas is governed, the legislature is literally part time and only convenes once EVERY TWO years. So most state power is in the hands of the governor, his appointees, and state boards like the one on which McElroy served. If you want to see the Republican dream of a supreme executive with a rubber stamp Congress, look no further than Texas.

FTFY

But your point stands and is correct in my estimation.
2012-04-24 06:00:36 PM  
1 votes:

OK, I'm late to this thread but I have to ask:

How do "conservatives" want people like this on their side?


Seriously, how do you red2's (yes, you're all farkied as "red 2". Deal with it) reconcile this people of this ilk? Is it for votes? You guys KNOW that people like this are poisonous, but you still cater to them! WHY? Why do you feel OK partnering with these morons? Are you so mad about paying (lower than ever) taxes that you'll get in bed with the fundies? What's the deal?
2012-04-24 02:58:41 PM  
1 votes:

stevetherobot: and his force [is] in the navel of his belly


Clearly this is not refering to a dinosaur, reptiles don't have belly buttons.
2012-04-24 02:35:43 PM  
1 votes:

abb3w: While McLeroy was chased out in the last election cycle, the Silly Party grade conservatives still held 6 of 13 seats, and the Very Silly Party people haven't given up hope. Due to redistricting, all 15 seats are up for re-election this year.

Incidentally, one of the Sensible Party faction candidates is Judy Jennings, the mom of farker Nobodyn0se. Not sure if he's active on Fark these days, or doing more productive things with his time.

TFN tends to have decent coverage of the TX SBOE antics.


I lurk. The trolling has gotten so out of hand, I can't invest in threads anymore.

But yes, my mother is running again, as is Rebecca Bell-Metereau. If you live in either of their districts (5 or 10), I highly recommend supporting them with your money and your vote to keep psychos like Don Mcelroy far away from the education system of this nation's children.
2012-04-24 02:17:41 PM  
1 votes:

quatchi: So half of Americas textbooks come from California and the other half come from Texas and are double checked for truthiness by that dipshiat?

Charming.

That noted, funny interview. Particularly liked the way Colbert's "evolving Devil lying about evolution" thing flew right over the guys head while the audience totally got it on the DL.


Actually, it's mostly all Texas. California is a large state, yes, but it does not have a statewide school system like Texas. There are municipal school systems across the state. The reason Texas gets to decide what's included in textbooks nationwide is that their statewide standards give them the leverage of bulk pricing. They order so damn many books that it's not feasible for a textbook publisher to put out a gazillion books to the TX standard an also another gazillion with a gazillion different standards.
2012-04-24 02:13:53 PM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: The "behemoth" and the "leviathan" are dinosaurs.



Also my left and right testicles, respectively
2012-04-24 02:01:16 PM  
1 votes:
holy shiat, this guy is an utter buffoon.
2012-04-24 01:54:48 PM  
1 votes:

3 G's: he had admitted himself into rehab for alcohol and 'scrips. The really screwy thing is that, for whatever reason, as soon as he got out of "treatment", he was allowed to go right back to work.


Well, if he admitted himself into rehab, I don't see why this is an issue. If he had been court ordered after a lawsuit or a criminal complaint, I could understand a delay, but if he admitted himself, the issue hadn't apparently gotten out of hand enough to bring the law into it. How long was he supposed to wait after being 'clean' in rehab? A year? 10? Never works as a dentist again? We have to accept that people can fix their issues at some point, IMHO...

He could have just messed up your teeth because he's a sucky dentist, I'd go somewhere else anyway... :)
2012-04-24 01:41:19 PM  
1 votes:

theorellior: ps69: Because the constitution and tricorner hats.

And tea and taxes and furthermore.


Also maps and like such as.
2012-04-24 01:32:00 PM  
1 votes:

the_ut_tick: Texas fought for its own independence and is the only state to be its own nation. It later joined the union.


Because its economy was in the shiatter and America almost didn't take it. I suspect if it hadn't joined the union it would have become a UK client state and later a North American Nigeria through its oil wealth.
2012-04-24 01:29:59 PM  
1 votes:

dramboxf: So, if men and dinosaurs shared the Earth, howcum there is no mention of them at all in the bible? Seriously?


The "behemoth" and the "leviathan" are dinosaurs.

No, seriously, that's what they believe.
2012-04-24 01:28:40 PM  
1 votes:

Urbn: I used to think it was primarily chiropractors and herbalists that cornered the market on loony political beliefs or conspiracy theories within the general healthcare arena, but dentists are working their way up, aren't they?


Chiropractors get a bum rap from some shady people in the 70's and 80's. I've seen them off and on for years, and while some are bigger on the 'energy shakes' and 'supplements' thing than others, I haven't met any that weren't legit, and didn't help alleviate my pain. As for herbalists, I don't really have a problem with more natural solutions, as opposed to stuff brewed up in a lab, and I believe that Big Pharma IS trying to keep them down, but many of those people are pretty tripped out. Nice and all, but usually one 'shroom away from locking themselves up in their storeroom and contemplating their navel for the next 20 years...
2012-04-24 01:27:12 PM  
1 votes:

Poopspasm: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That Don McLeroy is personally embarrassing to me as a Texan. The fact he exists makes me feel shame for the location of my birthplace. That's f*cked up.

No offense, but he's one of millions in texas, and the world would be a better place if we kicked them all out of the union.


fark you. I'm one of those millions of Texans and actually went to some of the school board meetings to share my displeasure at the dumbing down of science with mythology and lies.

/yea, I know... I'm in the minority.
2012-04-24 01:24:42 PM  
1 votes:

Masterstuff: bookmarking for later viewing


Yeah, my computer's down, so I'm running on an old PPC Mac, and can't get an updated version of Flash to run ANYTHING, it really sucks, I'd love to watch this right now.
2012-04-24 01:24:11 PM  
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid:
Unfortunately, that's what happens when textbooks are made by the free market. Texas can say, "Well, we won't buy your book" and it's a real threat to them.


This is actually why POD is a good technology, even though some people just loathe the thought. In a few short years Texas isn't going to have a say because a textbook manufacturer will be able to easily toss out whatever chapters in a book that a state doesn't like, even if the state is super tiny.
We're already seeing this with customized college textbooks.
2012-04-24 01:24:08 PM  
1 votes:

Maud Dib: abb3w: [people.virginia.edu image 540x110]

Umm, just a thought, I don't think anyone listing in their profile that they're from Virginia has any room to poke fun at "Texass", since you're living in the original slack jawed yokel state, Cletus.


There's more to Virginia than Liberty University and the NRA HQ. Plenty of reasonable people in the state. There are plenty of reasonable people in Texas as well but the sheer concentration of morons simply drowns them out.
2012-04-24 01:19:40 PM  
1 votes:

WI241TH: SixPaperJoint: dramboxf: keylock71: Do these morons not realize that Colbert is an comedy act ridiculing their backwards beliefs? I can understand when the show first came on, but it's not like it's a big secret.

This is also the part I don't get -- didn't he recognize that he was being utterly ridiculed?

Ridiculed would be likened to persecution, which is good in a Nero kinda way. Colbert allowed the man to embarrass himself by speaking outside of prepared remarks. The ego of McLeroy must be stupendous.

He's out peddling a movie about this and I don't think it's meant to cast him in a positive light. There is something seriously wrong with this man.


It is at the root of people who are pushing the creationist agenda. Evidence, right, wrong, fact mean nothing. It's the argument with their self created boogie man that matters.They see themselves as defenders of the faith and believe the majority agree with them. They cannot see that they are being ridiculed: it's praise to them. The documentary and Colbert are getting their message out. Arguing with them and pointing to evidence just strengthens their world view that they are fighting the good fight.

tl;dr version negative attention is still attention
2012-04-24 01:18:24 PM  
1 votes:

saintstryfe: Dentists are more likely to be small business people then most doctors, I guess, so they tend to get a lot more of the bullshat from the small business people who think they're Donald Trump.


Dentists are also considered the perfect mark for traditional scams such as land sales or stock pump'n'dumps. You haven't seen happiness until you've seen a New Jersey boilerroom operator with a fresh directory of Midwestern dentists in his hands.
2012-04-24 01:14:19 PM  
1 votes:
After seeing that sad sack unable to defend even one point with even minimal intelligence, I'm kind of in agreement with Colbert - I don't believe this dentist should be seen as an expert on teeth (or anything else)

I would absolutely stop going to any healthcare provider of any type if they started spouting this kind of bullshiat in my presence. I would think their degrees were fake.
2012-04-24 01:14:07 PM  
1 votes:

Trivia Jockey: Also, after Orly Taitz and this guy, I am getting seriously worried for the dental profession.


Well, duh, they're always working with Mercury (amalgam) fillings and sodium fluoride products, so of course they're a bit loony.*


* Partly kidding.

/My, (not-so) csb. The last dentist I went to screwed up two molars pretty badly, they started falling apart within weeks of him putting in fillings, but when I went back to his office to try to make him fix them, he had admitted himself into rehab for alcohol and 'scrips. The really screwy thing is that, for whatever reason, as soon as he got out of "treatment", he was allowed to go right back to work.
2012-04-24 01:11:37 PM  
1 votes:

Trivia Jockey: falkone32: "Somebody 's got to stand up to the experts"



That was the best line...experts are experts for a reason - if you stand up to them, you're telling them that they're not experts. This makes no sense.



What's worse is that he did not grasp that Colbert was mocking him when he said that dentists were not experts in teeth.
2012-04-24 01:11:33 PM  
1 votes:
Colbert was far too kind.
2012-04-24 01:09:46 PM  
1 votes:
As a child I thought there were dinosaurs at the museum. I had read Danny and the Dinosaur. I really believed there were dinosaurs at the museum. But I was only 5-years old and by the age of 6 I had learned more about dinosaurs than Don McLeroy.
2012-04-24 01:07:19 PM  
1 votes:

Richard Roma: I would watch that, but I really don't want to feel stabby for the rest of the day.

These freaks are defeating me, because I've become so exasperated at their foolishness that I now actively avoid their derp instead of facing it head on and shooting it to pieces. What's the point of trying to reason with people when they take pride in rejecting rational thought?


Because other people will start to believe them. Look at Birtherism and Global Warming Deniers, they both gained a big foothold because they keep repeating their BS unchallenged.
2012-04-24 01:07:01 PM  
1 votes:
While McLeroy was chased out in the last election cycle, the Silly Party grade conservatives still held 6 of 13 seats, and the Very Silly Party people haven't given up hope. Due to redistricting, all 15 seats are up for re-election this year.

Incidentally, one of the Sensible Party faction candidates is Judy Jennings, the mom of farker Nobodyn0se. Not sure if he's active on Fark these days, or doing more productive things with his time.

TFN tends to have decent coverage of the TX SBOE antics.
2012-04-24 01:06:44 PM  
1 votes:
If he thinks it's all guided in perfect: Why do cells reproduce incorrectly? A perfectly designed thing wouldn't break in reproduction. But it does: we call it cancer.

Also, he's a dentist? Explain Wisdom Teeth. Completely useless. It's an evolutionary hold-over. I guess the good sir here doesn't pull them though, since he doesn't believe in them since they're not part of god's plan or something.
2012-04-24 01:06:39 PM  
1 votes:

dramboxf: keylock71: Do these morons not realize that Colbert is an comedy act ridiculing their backwards beliefs? I can understand when the show first came on, but it's not like it's a big secret.

This is also the part I don't get -- didn't he recognize that he was being utterly ridiculed?


I think they know what they are getting into but they believe so wholly in their convictions and ideas they truly think there's no way Colbert will be able to fillet them. They are always wrong.
2012-04-24 01:05:48 PM  
1 votes:

Trivia Jockey: Also, after Orly Taitz and this guy, I am getting seriously worried for the dental profession.


For some reason I have noticed many dentist are crazy right wing nut balls. I got one recently who was telling my Obamacare was going to take over the dental industry. It was a real crazy rant and he didn't know I knew all of his stupid talking points.

After calling him out on his points he did the "Well no one knows what's in Obamacare, no one has read it" - He was strill trying this BS after a year it was passed. It's like "Umm it's been about a year I think someone has read it by now".

One funny bit was he said "When the government gets involved a little bit they take over 100%". So I asked him if he needed a license to be a dentists. At first he tried to pretend he didn't need or have a license to be a dentist and I totally called BS and then he just said that was somehow different and changed the topic.
2012-04-24 01:03:00 PM  
1 votes:
I caught a bit of that last night. That guy couldn't even articulate his own point. He shouldn't be helping to determine the goddamn cafeteria menu, let alone what goes in text books.
2012-04-24 01:02:59 PM  
1 votes:

Trivia Jockey: Peter_Veal: Something can't come from nothing!

Where did God come from then?


"I look at a cell, and I just know that it's too complicated to have come about by anything other than God. No, I don't have a degree in cellular biology, why do you ask?"


Bet the story of Mitochondrial Eve would blow this guy's mind so hard he'd retreat so far into his particularly farked up and specific brand of mysticism that he'd come out the other side of that introspection as a cultist.
2012-04-24 01:00:23 PM  
1 votes:
Also, after Orly Taitz and this guy, I am getting seriously worried for the dental profession.
2012-04-24 12:58:24 PM  
1 votes:

falkone32: "Somebody 's got to stand up to the experts"




That was the best line...experts are experts for a reason - if you stand up to them, you're telling them that they're not experts. This makes no sense.
2012-04-24 12:56:25 PM  
1 votes:
Didn't he need to take biology at some point if he's a goddamn dentist?
2012-04-24 12:56:17 PM  
1 votes:
keylock71
Do these morons not realize that Colbert is an comedy act ridiculing their backwards beliefs?

It sounded like he realized it midway through the interview. Colbert kept baiting him, but he didn't really bite.

kingoomieiii
Shout it on down from the mountaintops, ARGUMENT FROM PERSON INCREDULITY

Resulting, in part, from some apparent misconceptions he has. Calling evolution "unguided" doesn't make sense in context, when it is "guided" by selection processes. The supposed unsoundness of an ex nihilo argument is applied to the scientific argument but not his religious one. "Somebody 's got to stand up to the experts". Oh, and having no evidence for his claims.
2012-04-24 12:55:14 PM  
1 votes:

Urbn: Randomly assigning people to elected positions, like school boards, would be better than the self-selected set of morons that we end up with in our current system.


Instead of the Board determining what goes into textbooks, the textbook companies should just sell whatever danm textbook they want, and if the Board wants to restrict the cirriculum, they just require the teachers to teach only certain parts of the book. Changing the book (which will be sold nationally) because of the whims of a particular state's education board, is astronimically stupid.
2012-04-24 12:53:09 PM  
1 votes:

SixPaperJoint: dramboxf: keylock71: Do these morons not realize that Colbert is an comedy act ridiculing their backwards beliefs? I can understand when the show first came on, but it's not like it's a big secret.

This is also the part I don't get -- didn't he recognize that he was being utterly ridiculed?

Ridiculed would be likened to persecution, which is good in a Nero kinda way. Colbert allowed the man to embarrass himself by speaking outside of prepared remarks. The ego of McLeroy must be stupendous.


He's out peddling a movie about this and I don't think it's meant to cast him in a positive light. There is something seriously wrong with this man.
2012-04-24 12:50:31 PM  
1 votes:
I really want to watch this but I hate seeing people looking like idiots, even when they are one and deserve it.
2012-04-24 12:47:01 PM  
1 votes:

dramboxf: This is also the part I don't get -- didn't he recognize that he was being utterly ridiculed?


I think at this point they have to go in thinking they can beat him. Which is somehow even stupider than not getting Colbert's schtick.
2012-04-24 12:46:21 PM  
1 votes:
Randomly assigning people to elected positions, like school boards, would be better than the self-selected set of morons that we end up with in our current system.

/Seriously
//Science Friday podcasts FTW!
2012-04-24 12:42:48 PM  
1 votes:
Mrs. Krabappel: And who can tell me where thunder and lightning come from? Yes, Bart?
Bart: The Leader, ma'am.
Krabappel: Very good, Bart! And who invented Morse Code?
Bart: Oh, I should know this one. . . the. . . the Leader?
Krabappel: Ah, correct again!
2012-04-24 12:19:25 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: If America knew back in 1848 how the Southwest would turn out, I'd hope they'd have let Mexico keep it.


That's going in the ol' profile.
 
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