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(Yahoo)   Man spends 15 years in jail that was originally a 3 year sentence because.....c) his father would not pardon him "until he is proven to be righteous by his father"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 91
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2012-04-24 12:34:11 PM  
What?! I don't even... this is an OUTRA... oh, Saudi Arabia?

Nevermind.
 
2012-04-24 12:41:42 PM  
Wow, farked up government theocracy is farked up...amazing!
 
2012-04-24 12:48:00 PM  
"We are optimistic that he will be released because he has been jailed for (almost) 16 years and there is no real charge... This is legally problematic because they gave absolute power to the father and the son is left under his mercy," Zahrani said.

They REALLY hold grudges over there.

It wouldn't surprise me if the son were to finally walk out of jail, go see his father and promptly blow him away and then walk back to jail.
 
2012-04-24 01:10:43 PM  
I'm so glad that we help prop up this country.
 
2012-04-24 02:00:56 PM  
I'm safe from Sharia law here in Okla.

/suck it biatches!
 
2012-04-24 02:04:36 PM  
If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people
 
2012-04-24 02:08:25 PM  
No more stupid that US drug laws. Lets first look at getting rid of the log, more like a forrest, in our own eye first. Then we might have just a speck of moral standing in the world that we can use to criticize others.
 
2012-04-24 02:15:23 PM  

Crosshair: No more stupid that US drug laws. Lets first look at getting rid of the log, more like a forrest, in our own eye first. Then we might have just a speck of moral standing in the world that we can use to criticize others.


I am actually quite confused at the lefts stance on this.

Do we the United States have the right to tell other nations how to run their own nation?
 
2012-04-24 02:24:08 PM  
At least he kept his head on straight.
 
2012-04-24 02:27:09 PM  
Under the kingdom's Islamic legal system, law is not systematically codified and judicial rulings are subject to individual judges' interpretation of sharia.



Once again proving how happy I am not being born and raised anywhere near that pathetix excuse of a country.
 
2012-04-24 02:32:55 PM  

cman: I am actually quite confused at the lefts stance on this.

Do we the United States have the right to tell other nations how to run their own nation?


Why is this a left-right issue? He's being held under a system based on theocratic religious edicts, not a system resembling anything like the rule of law. As a member of "the left", I don't think we should be supporting regimes like Saudi Arabia with economic and military aid. I would hope that people on "the right" would agree.
 
2012-04-24 02:41:02 PM  
Someone's not getting the choice locations of retirement homes.
 
2012-04-24 02:41:39 PM  

Cagey B: Why is this a left-right issue? He's being held under a system based on theocratic religious edicts, not a system resembling anything like the rule of law. As a member of "the left", I don't think we should be supporting regimes like Saudi Arabia with economic and military aid. I would hope that people on "the right" would agree.


If almost all of the 9/11 hijackers can be Saudi and a Saudi prince or whoever can still get to second base with Bush, we're not going to stop being asshole buddies with them because we don't like their judicial system.
 
2012-04-24 02:44:47 PM  

cman: If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people


Yup. Or a pedant. I mean, a pedestrian. No, wait! What's that other "p" word... ;-/
 
2012-04-24 02:48:47 PM  

Mugato: Cagey B: Why is this a left-right issue? He's being held under a system based on theocratic religious edicts, not a system resembling anything like the rule of law. As a member of "the left", I don't think we should be supporting regimes like Saudi Arabia with economic and military aid. I would hope that people on "the right" would agree.

If almost all of the 9/11 hijackers can be Saudi and a Saudi prince or whoever can still get to second base with Bush, we're not going to stop being asshole buddies with them because we don't like their judicial system.


I never said it was likely that we would ever stop being their BFF. It just kind of sucks that this is one of our closest allies.
 
2012-04-24 03:01:11 PM  

xanadian: cman: If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people

Yup. Or a pedant. I mean, a pedestrian. No, wait! What's that other "p" word... ;-/


Pedophobic?
 
2012-04-24 03:03:09 PM  
t3.gstatic.com

/god that movie sucked
 
2012-04-24 03:03:44 PM  
That will be a stabbin' someday.
 
2012-04-24 03:04:13 PM  

INeedAName: xanadian: cman: If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people

Yup. Or a pedant. I mean, a pedestrian. No, wait! What's that other "p" word... ;-/

Pedophobic?


Pediatric! ...no... hmm.
 
2012-04-24 03:06:06 PM  
Knows a bit about righteousness.

content6.flixster.com
 
2012-04-24 03:06:35 PM  
My father would have let me go at the end of the sentence. So would my mother, but only after I'd been broken on the wheel (link).

I'm so glad the USA is a Christiano-fascist country instead of one ruled by sharia.
 
2012-04-24 03:06:44 PM  

Cagey B: I'm so glad that we help prop up this country.


This is why i scoff at Obama over Cuba. Simply put we support terrible people. Why not give Cuba a chance and at least make it a little better for the citizens, even if the government is bad. I may not like the Cuban government but I think t+he current policy is way out dated and needs to be reviewed. It's not like there isn't anything to gain. Beyond tourism there is oil, off shore. Even if we aren't buying we might want to have some oversight given they are in our back yard.

I may support Obama over all, but this is one of many things I strongly disagree with.
/would go to Cuba well before Saudi Arabia.
 
2012-04-24 03:07:51 PM  
Just one more reason we should blow up that entire section of the world.
 
2012-04-24 03:10:55 PM  

kd8our: Why not give Cuba a chance and at least make it a little better for the citizens, even if the government is bad. I may not like the Cuban government but I think t+he current policy is way out dated and needs to be reviewed.


Really. The Cold War is over, we're (I think) not afraid of the Commies anymore and the Missile Crisis was a long time ago. We've dropped grudges a lot worse than them.
 
2012-04-24 03:11:22 PM  
I wonder how righteous he is? I know I would be beyond pissed, there's no faking righteousness after that much time.
 
2012-04-24 03:15:00 PM  

xanadian: INeedAName: xanadian: cman: If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people

Yup. Or a pedant. I mean, a pedestrian. No, wait! What's that other "p" word... ;-/

Pedophobic?

Pediatric! ...no... hmm.


Priest?
 
2012-04-24 03:15:43 PM  

gopher321: Under the kingdom's Islamic legal system, law is not systematically codified and judicial rulings are subject to individual judges' interpretation of sharia.



Once again proving how happy I am not being born and raised anywhere near that pathetix excuse of a country.


Replace sharia with bible and you have the American South.
 
2012-04-24 03:16:51 PM  
I'd propose they let him go, but everyone knows you can't end a sentence with a proposition.
 
2012-04-24 03:16:57 PM  
The thing I don't understand is, we boycotted the shiat out of South Africa over Apartide, but we turn a blind eye to all the crap in Saudi because of their oil. Drill for our own, and tell these farkers to pouns sand, which they have in abundance!
 
2012-04-24 03:18:02 PM  
When I think sane law, I think Saudi Arabia.
 
2012-04-24 03:18:12 PM  

deadcrickets: Replace sharia with bible and you have the American South.


Let's not be over dramatic.
 
2012-04-24 03:19:01 PM  

gopher321: Under the kingdom's Islamic legal system, law is not systematically codified and judicial rulings are subject to individual judges' interpretation of sharia.



Once again proving how happy I am not being born and raised anywhere near that pathetix excuse of a country.


Are you not glad that our police officers never have stories about them on FARK for their own interpretation of the law? I am sure glad some cop didn't pull a gun on me while he was road raging while off duty. I am also glad an off duty officer never pulled me over for suspicion of drunk driving because I was obeying the speed limit and came to a full stop at a stop sign. Whew, I am glad none of that stuff ever happens when interpretation can play into how the laws are enforced.

Not sure how an off duty an officer can rationalize pulling a gun on guy for how he drives or obeying traffic laws = DUI. The officer really did say he thought I had been drinking because I was obeying the traffic laws.
 
2012-04-24 03:19:07 PM  
Wait? What?

A completely different country has completely different ways of doing things?
 
2012-04-24 03:19:10 PM  

cman: If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people


I was ready to be outraged, but I just can't work up any sympathy for this guy.
 
2012-04-24 03:21:53 PM  
THANKS NOBAMA!
 
2012-04-24 03:22:05 PM  

cman: Crosshair: No more stupid that US drug laws. Lets first look at getting rid of the log, more like a forrest, in our own eye first. Then we might have just a speck of moral standing in the world that we can use to criticize others.

I am actually quite confused at the lefts stance on this.

Do we the United States have the right to tell other nations how to run their own nation?


Why is everything a left/right issue with you?
 
2012-04-24 03:24:43 PM  

Cagey B: Why is this a left-right issue? He's being held under a system based on theocratic religious edicts, not a system resembling anything like the rule of law. As a member of "the left", I don't think we should be supporting regimes like Saudi Arabia with economic and military aid. I would hope that people on "the right" would agree.


This. That system isn't even law. That is literally not a legal system. That's the system that was in place before Hammurabi INVENTED laws. All Saudi Arabia has done is delegate 'gee, i hope the king is in a good mood today'.
 
2012-04-24 03:25:15 PM  

Mugato: kd8our: Why not give Cuba a chance and at least make it a little better for the citizens, even if the government is bad. I may not like the Cuban government but I think t+he current policy is way out dated and needs to be reviewed.

Really. The Cold War is over, we're (I think) not afraid of the Commies anymore and the Missile Crisis was a long time ago. We've dropped grudges a lot worse than them.


Actually, I'm sure Obama doesn't give a crap about Cuba per se`. But everyone running for president wants to win Florida and a lot of the old Cuban refugees are still alive and voting. Always try to avoid p*ssing off anyone in a swing state! It'll be 10-20 years before we can finally ditch that relic of an embargo.

/you probably knew that
 
2012-04-24 03:27:07 PM  

cman: Do we the United States have the right to tell other nations how to run their own nation?


jeffburk.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-04-24 03:27:56 PM  

Nasty_McFilth: cman: Crosshair: No more stupid that US drug laws. Lets first look at getting rid of the log, more like a forrest, in our own eye first. Then we might have just a speck of moral standing in the world that we can use to criticize others.

I am actually quite confused at the lefts stance on this.

Do we the United States have the right to tell other nations how to run their own nation?

Why is everything a left/right issue with you?


Because it is for everyone else

Maybe if I keep on showing the stupidity behind it people will stop it
 
2012-04-24 03:28:29 PM  

kd8our:

/would go to Cuba well before Saudi Arabia.


Me too.
 
2012-04-24 03:30:09 PM  
Mugato:

deadcrickets: Replace sharia with bible and you have the American South.

Let's not be over dramatic.


I agree. That is an exaggeration. A slight one. So far.
 
2012-04-24 03:31:03 PM  

cman: Nasty_McFilth: cman: Crosshair: No more stupid that US drug laws. Lets first look at getting rid of the log, more like a forrest, in our own eye first. Then we might have just a speck of moral standing in the world that we can use to criticize others.

I am actually quite confused at the lefts stance on this.

Do we the United States have the right to tell other nations how to run their own nation?

Why is everything a left/right issue with you?

Because it is for everyone else

Maybe if I keep on showing the stupidity behind it people will stop it


No, not really. For you and maybe 10 other regular posters here...but definitely not everyone else.
 
2012-04-24 03:31:30 PM  
Chinchillazilla:

cman: If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people

I was ready to be outraged, but I just can't work up any sympathy for this guy.


Me too there too.
 
2012-04-24 03:32:37 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Chinchillazilla:

cman: If there is anyone who does deserve to be in prison for 16 years it is a woman beater.

/And it was his step-mother of all people

I was ready to be outraged, but I just can't work up any sympathy for this guy.

Me too there too.


Besides, under sharia it's the husband's duty to beat his wife, not his son's.
 
2012-04-24 03:35:18 PM  
He should have never put that soda in his water cup....
 
2012-04-24 03:38:34 PM  
Ah the righteous. I think the new definition should be 'stone aged ignoramus in desperate need of killing'.
 
2012-04-24 03:42:40 PM  

cman: Do we the United States have the right to tell other nations how to run their own nation?


I don't think anyone considers it a "right", per se. This isn't a case of jurisdiction because nations assume -- under mutual threat of war -- the right of sovereignty. It's actually quite fascinating to look into the current ACTIVE disputes that nations have simply yet to act on. Japan, for example, claims an "exclusive economic zone" around an "island" that's basically an atoll they're spending millions of dollars annually to prevent from sinking under the sea. There are viable economic reasons for doing so and the waters around it are otherwise unclaimed; the problem is that during high tide the "island" is the size of a queen-sized bed. China disputes their claim but there's not much they're willing to do about it at this point.

But when stuff like this is involved, sovereignty will clash with philosophy. Some people (generally conservatives) think sovereignty reigns supreme, which is a roundabout way of observing a nation's "right" to even commit genocide on its own people. Others (mostly liberals) see political boundaries as merely administrative, even arbitrary, and we're all members of the same species. As such our moral obligation to act on injustice extends past international borders. That said, the "police actions" moderates advocate generally involve serious "crimes against humanity" for obviously practical reasons -- war is very resource-intensive and the inevitable deaths require serious political capital, so you have to pick and choose your causes. America is one of the few nations that even has the resources to intervene in causes that A) doesn't immediately benefit itself and B) happen half a world away. Some people think even a single American tourist arrested for reasons we don't agree with is worth mobilizing the military; others would happily sit on their hands through a world war.
 
2012-04-24 03:43:14 PM  
Go allies!
 
2012-04-24 03:43:19 PM  
Some judges view children's "disobedience" towards their parents as an offence worthy of lashing and even jail sentences.

I've just realised I'm a wahhabist muslim!
 
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