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(Some Guy)   Tuesday morning American Civics quiz. Can you beat the average American citizen's score of 49%? Or the average college educator's score of 55%?   (scaredmonkeys.com) divider line 375
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2012-04-24 03:09:57 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: For the latter, its sort of the same answer but being picky as to defining the beneficiary. I could go even more picky in the same vein by asking "What? Don't visiting guests benefit too?"


Actually the answer have more to do with who paid for it. Villagers, some generous millionaire, or the government can fund the money to build a bridge or a road.
 
2012-04-24 03:11:25 PM
32/33 - 96.97% correct.

Missed the last one.
 
2012-04-24 03:12:06 PM

Masso: boxiebrown: 30/33.

Missed the Anti-Federalists and Gettysburg Address questions, as well as this shiat: "Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government's centralized planning because" with the answer "the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends." Is it just me or is that answer nonsensical? "Local knowledge of means and ends?" WTF?

?
Market determines the price in Free Market. What's so tricky about it?


The problem is that "the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends" does not equal "the market sets prices." It's word salad.
 
2012-04-24 03:12:29 PM

mr_a: Missed the Plato question. That guy has cost me in about 5 different subjects.


I had to guess on that one. Fortunately, references to "Christianity" and "evolution" eliminated two of the choices right off the bat, and of the remainder, only one possibility resulted in those four guys being even the slightest bit useful in discussions of civics, so I went with that one.
 
2012-04-24 03:13:29 PM

youfoundthekingbaby: lennavan: youfoundthekingbaby: lennavan: boise3981: Even if they didn't, no one from your class will ever recall whatever stupid fact you required them to memorize 10 years from now.
.

that's strange, I still remember quite a few things i memorized 30+ years ago, I guess you must teach in a community college.

That's awesome, you think your made up, stupid personal anecdote indicates people I teach attend community college, presumably due to a lower intelligence of student. Which community college did you attend?

I recall learning 2+2 = 4, therefore you are wrong! You got me there buddy, throw out all of the research college educators have been publishing for decades, your anecdote has negated all of them.

actually, after reading your retort, i think your making the entire thing up, if you finished high school, I would be surprised. You're working way to hard on your ivory tower elitism act for it to be believable.


Well, this is where, I would make a comment, about you're poor sentence structure, and you're poor grammar, and then remind you, of how you claimed to remember lessons from 30+, years ago, and identify the comedic value in the juxtaposition of those too things. But I'm far, two nice too do that. Again, your anecdote, was quite convincing.
 
2012-04-24 03:13:30 PM
You answered 32 out of 33 correctly - 96.97 %

/Goddamned Puritans
 
2012-04-24 03:13:43 PM

lennavan: Mike Chewbacca: I see your point, but in many cases if you understand history, you'll be able to glean the right answer.

Agreed. There is an enormous difference between understanding history and memorizing facts about history. Your great example is "if you understand/memorize history you can glean correct answers on internet quizzes?" I guess I'm attempting for a higher goal.


Uh, okay. *shrug*

Mike Chewbacca: so I was able to select the right answer based on my understanding of US history.

I don't know that you want to use this as your example. Your education... allowed you to select the correct answer on an internet quiz. An internet quiz, where you could have also quickly googled the answer. You could have quickly googled all of the answers and gotten a perfect score. But I guess good for you?

What's your point? That my understanding of American history isn't as good as just Googling the answer? Unlike the person who just Googles all the answers, I actually learned something today. I'm pretty sure someone just Googling the answer isn't going to retain that information, because unlike me, they didn't make a connection in their brain to something else they already knew. Or maybe your point was something along the lines of "Oh wow, you got an answer right on a stupid INTERNET QUIZ! DON'T YOU FEEL SMART!??!?!" Either way, you come off as petty and maybe even jealous.

Should we go to war with Iran next year? Yes/No? Based on what? If you have been taught well, you'll start googling past wars and try to compare what happened in the past to what would happen in Iran and upon that base conclusions. That process is what you need to learn in college. The material is irrelevant. In the real world no one is going to quick ask you "OH MY GOD QUICK EXACTLY HOW MANY DEATHS WERE THERE IN VIETNAM I NEED TO KNOW RIGHT NOW OR YOU ARE FIRED ETC ETC."

So I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't understand why history is important. Not because you don't know why knowing the number of deaths in the Viet Nam war is important, but because you think history is knowing the number of deaths in Viet Nam.
 
2012-04-24 03:15:08 PM
32/33. The only one I missed was the Plato/Socrates/Aquinas one. That was a strange question, and I'm not really sure how it was relevant, seeing how none of the guys in the question were American, nor was America even a nation when they were alive.
 
2012-04-24 03:18:28 PM

Zasteva: 31/33 93.94 %

I thought it was interesting that this seemed to go beyond just civics (understanding of how our government works) and into some relatively leading economic questions that promoted a capitalist/free market view.


A capitalist/free market view that's been taught for at least 50 years as part of civics in the United States, and usually contrasted with commies. (dirty, pinko, or otherwise, giggle) You can think whatever you want about those views, but you could get them from Schoolhouse Rock. I recommend "Tax Man Max" and "Where the Money goes."
We actually do have an official state form of economics here. We really do.
 
2012-04-24 03:23:21 PM

Mike Chewbacca: So I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't understand why history is important. Not because you don't know why knowing the number of deaths in the Viet Nam war is important, but because you think history is knowing the number of deaths in Viet Nam.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't actually read my post or it completely flew over your head. Let's try one more time:

Mike Chewbacca: What's your point? That my understanding of American history isn't as good as just Googling the answer?


No actually it is as good. That's kinda my point - your understanding of American history can be matched by googling. A six year old can perform just as well as you on a history test. What a six year old cannot do is apply that knowledge to a complex situation such as "Should we attack Iran." A six year old would google "should we attack Iran." You probably would too and hope someone wrote an article for you to regurgitate and memorize. I'm attempting for something higher, I'm hoping people learn how to formulate those sorts of conclusions on their own and base that conclusion on solid, merited, factual arguments. But you can just google the farking facts, collect them and take notes and then formulate an opinion, you don't have to actually memorize them.
 
2012-04-24 03:23:46 PM

lennavan: Who gives a flying fark what the series of government programs was named?


Because that's its name, and that's how people are going to refer to it? I mean, using your logic, why do we even bother to teach kids that our first president was George Washington. Why don't we just always refer to him as Our First President. Everyone knows what Our First President means, while not everyone understands who George Washington is.
 
2012-04-24 03:28:11 PM

Masso: Vlad_the_Inaner: For the latter, its sort of the same answer but being picky as to defining the beneficiary. I could go even more picky in the same vein by asking "What? Don't visiting guests benefit too?"

Actually the answer have more to do with who paid for it. Villagers, some generous millionaire, or the government can fund the money to build a bridge or a road.


No, a flood control levee prevents residents (and visitors) from drowning regardless of who paid for it. That is what makes it a public good, regardless of the original funding. An anecdotal example of a privately funded public good: In a neighborhood full of twisty little streets all different, a boy scout got the idea (for his project) of painting house numbers on the curbs so that 911 responders could identify houses correctly. He was able to get financial backing from...Dominos! They had their own selfish reasons for wanting the job done, but all the same it accomplished the original purpose of allowing police, paramedics, and firefighters to find a house given only the address.
 
2012-04-24 03:28:37 PM

HMS_Blinkin: 32/33. The only one I missed was the Plato/Socrates/Aquinas one. That was a strange question, and I'm not really sure how it was relevant, seeing how none of the guys in the question were American, nor was America even a nation when they were alive.


I thought the fact that there is even a term "Platonic Ideal" would be useful for eliminating the 'relative' answer.

But the Founding Fathers did read a bunch of philosophy, and used what they read in layout the system of government, so a question regarding philosophers is not totally disconnected from American Civics.

e.g.

"The reason of man, like man himself, is timid and cautious when left alone, and acquires firmness and confidence in proportion to the number with which it is associated. When the examples which fortify opinion are ANCIENT as well as NUMEROUS, they are known to have a double effect. In a nation of philosophers, this consideration ought to be disregarded. A reverence for the laws would be sufficiently inculcated by the voice of an enlightened reason. But a nation of philosophers is as little to be expected as the philosophical race of kings wished for by Plato. And in every other nation, the most rational government will not find it a superfluous advantage to have the prejudices of the community on its side."

-- Federalist Paper #49
 
2012-04-24 03:29:27 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Because that's its name, and that's how people are going to refer to it?


Yes, and the name is super important. Let me tell you, I was super glad all of the different versions of Health Care Reform were all called ObamaCare. Even when there were multiple ones, we just called them ObamaCare. Who cares what was actually in the different bills, we know the name! Those bills were actually passed as ObamaCare too, as their actual name, you can look it up, that's why we refer to them that way. But who cares what was in those bills, amirite? So long as you know the name!
 
2012-04-24 03:33:57 PM

Mike Chewbacca: I mean, using your logic, why do we even bother to teach kids that our first president was George Washington. Why don't we just always refer to him as Our First President. Everyone knows what Our First President means, while not everyone understands who George Washington is.


I'm talking about college dipshiat. 2nd graders are not on the same academic playing field. Had you taken one of my courses, you would have known ahead of time not to equate stupid shiat like that.
 
2012-04-24 03:36:08 PM

lennavan: No actually it is as good. That's kinda my point - your understanding of American history can be matched by googling. A six year old can perform just as well as you on a history test. What a six year old cannot do is apply that knowledge to a complex situation such as "Should we attack Iran." A six year old would google "should we attack Iran." You probably would too and hope someone wrote an article for you to regurgitate and memorize. I'm attempting for something higher, I'm hoping people learn how to formulate those sorts of conclusions on their own and base that conclusion on solid, merited, factual arguments. But you can just google the farking facts, collect them and take notes and then formulate an opinion, you don't have to actually memorize them.


Your first argument is "why memorize anything when you can just Google it?" And then your second argument is "I want people to fully understand things so they can make logical choices using real evidence." How do you think people get that evidence? Do you think that doesn't involve memorizing facts? Do you think Albert Einstein never had to memorize that 2+2=4? Do you think that William Shakespeare never had to memorize the spelling of words?

Also, your little comment "your understanding of American history can be matched by googling" means you're a dick. Really. You have zero idea of my understanding of American history outside this one question. But I love that you can judge MY education and understanding of history without showing how or why yours is superior. Oh, and this: "You probably would too and hope someone wrote an article for you to regurgitate and memorize." also makes you a dick.

In short, you're a dick.
 
2012-04-24 03:40:28 PM

lennavan: Mike Chewbacca: I mean, using your logic, why do we even bother to teach kids that our first president was George Washington. Why don't we just always refer to him as Our First President. Everyone knows what Our First President means, while not everyone understands who George Washington is.

I'm talking about college dipshiat. 2nd graders are not on the same academic playing field. Had you taken one of my courses, you would have known ahead of time not to equate stupid shiat like that.

Goddamn

, you are an arrogant coont.
 
2012-04-24 03:42:34 PM
96.97 %


/biatch
 
2012-04-24 03:43:06 PM

lennavan: Mike Chewbacca: I mean, using your logic, why do we even bother to teach kids that our first president was George Washington. Why don't we just always refer to him as Our First President. Everyone knows what Our First President means, while not everyone understands who George Washington is.

I'm talking about college dipshiat. 2nd graders are not on the same academic playing field. Had you taken one of my courses, you would have known ahead of time not to equate stupid shiat like that.


Nobody--NOBODY--is saying that university education should involve rote memorization. Where in the fark did you get that idea? We're saying "you have to start somewhere" and "if you can't recognize the words 'New Deal' and know to associate them with FDR, you're not going to have much deeper understanding of the subject."
 
2012-04-24 03:43:35 PM

neon_god: There tends to be less diversity than, say, poli-sci, because economic opinions have to be backed up by statistics and a mathematical model to carry any weight.


Just like the fundamental assumption of all mainstream economics that human beings are rational actors, right? Of course, that idea must be taken for granted because if it were ever seriously questioned, the whole of classical economic theory falls apart and our corporate donors to the College of Business can't have that!
 
2012-04-24 03:44:10 PM

Mike Chewbacca: How do you think people get that evidence? Do you think that doesn't involve memorizing facts?


Correct. Memorization is not required.

Mike Chewbacca: Do you think that William Shakespeare never had to memorize the spelling of words?


It was not required, he could have happily dictated a book to someone. Current authors have editors to correct things. You were apparently not aware of this. Glad I could help out.

Mike Chewbacca: Do you think Albert Einstein never had to memorize that 2+2=4?


I dont even know where to begin. You think the level of Physics Einstein was performing required lots of memorization instead of thinking? You didn't realize Einstein would ask his wife to double check his math? You think my argument boils down into you don't have to recall anything from longer than a second ago at all whatsoever?

Let me tell you, to be the sort of physicist Einstein was, you did not need to go in knowing 2+2 was 4. The first time he encountered that difficult problem, he could have consulted his wife. Repeat a few more times and perhaps he would have memorized it so he could be less annoying. Memorizing 2+2 = 4. Not required for physics but saves lots of annoyance.
 
2012-04-24 03:44:55 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: "The reason of man, like man himself, is timid and cautious when left alone,


They obviously didn't have many psycho wackjobs back then...
 
2012-04-24 03:46:55 PM
31/33

Only missed one actual civics question. The other was an economic question written to compel a certain answer.

What a surprise that the ISI is resentful of modern education, yet can't write a civic quiz without 1/4 questions being subjective and off-topic.
 
2012-04-24 03:47:59 PM

lennavan: You didn't realize Einstein would ask his wife to double check his math?


Well, that explains it...

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-04-24 03:48:45 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Nobody--NOBODY--is saying that university education should involve rote memorization. Where in the fark did you get that idea?


Gee, I wonder if you could figure it out from reading the post and the context you originally replied to.

Mike Chewbacca: Goddamn, you are an arrogant coont.


You and I left honest discourse awhile ago, which is fine, so I switched to just farkin around. May as well have fun, right?

Mike Chewbacca: Either way, you come off as petty and maybe even jealous.



Somewhere around here we stopped being honest.

Mike Chewbacca: So I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't understand why history is important. Not because you don't know why knowing the number of deaths in the Viet Nam war is important, but because you think history is knowing the number of deaths in Viet Nam.



By here, you seemed to suggest we were just going to fark around and be dicks to each other. I was okay with that. Prior to that I was having an honest discussion, after I realized you were gonna be a douche, I joined in.
 
2012-04-24 03:50:01 PM

lennavan: Mike Chewbacca: How do you think people get that evidence? Do you think that doesn't involve memorizing facts?

Correct. Memorization is not required.

Mike Chewbacca: Do you think that William Shakespeare never had to memorize the spelling of words?

It was not required, he could have happily dictated a book to someone. Current authors have editors to correct things. You were apparently not aware of this. Glad I could help out.

Mike Chewbacca: Do you think Albert Einstein never had to memorize that 2+2=4?

I dont even know where to begin. You think the level of Physics Einstein was performing required lots of memorization instead of thinking? You didn't realize Einstein would ask his wife to double check his math? You think my argument boils down into you don't have to recall anything from longer than a second ago at all whatsoever?

Let me tell you, to be the sort of physicist Einstein was, you did not need to go in knowing 2+2 was 4. The first time he encountered that difficult problem, he could have consulted his wife. Repeat a few more times and perhaps he would have memorized it so he could be less annoying. Memorizing 2+2 = 4. Not required for physics but saves lots of annoyance.


First of all, yes they all had to memorize things before they could "get their genius on." Second, even IF your idea that Shakespeare never required rote memorization is true, it IS true for the 99.99999% of human civilization who aren't a Shakespeare because we're not goddamn Shakespeare.

I'm going to farkie you as "bootstrapper of knowledge and education"
 
2012-04-24 03:50:58 PM

lennavan: I realized you were gonna be a douche


Yeah, I'm the douche. Uh huh.
 
2012-04-24 03:53:07 PM
Yup yup. Got 87.88%.

Missed the ones about Socrates, the civil war, the first amendment, and the Puritans. Holy crap I can't believe I missed the one about the First Amendment.
 
2012-04-24 03:59:08 PM

IXI Jim IXI: Vlad_the_Inaner: "The reason of man, like man himself, is timid and cautious when left alone,

They obviously didn't have many psycho wackjobs back then...


You mean the Tea Party Now and the Tea Party Then may be of a different caliber?

/Actually, I suspect Patrick Henry would have fit right in the current crowd.
 
2012-04-24 04:07:15 PM

lennavan: youfoundthekingbaby: lennavan: youfoundthekingbaby: lennavan: boise3981: Even if they didn't, no one from your class will ever recall whatever stupid fact you required them to memorize 10 years from now.
.

that's strange, I still remember quite a few things i memorized 30+ years ago, I guess you must teach in a community college.

That's awesome, you think your made up, stupid personal anecdote indicates people I teach attend community college, presumably due to a lower intelligence of student. Which community college did you attend?

I recall learning 2+2 = 4, therefore you are wrong! You got me there buddy, throw out all of the research college educators have been publishing for decades, your anecdote has negated all of them.

actually, after reading your retort, i think your making the entire thing up, if you finished high school, I would be surprised. You're working way to hard on your ivory tower elitism act for it to be believable.

Well, this is where, I would make a comment, about you're poor sentence structure, and you're poor grammar, and then remind you, of how you claimed to remember lessons from 30+, years ago, and identify the comedic value in the juxtaposition of those too things. But I'm far, two nice too do that. Again, your anecdote, was quite convincing.


When you go after someone based on their spelling/grammar, you seem like a real douche. Food for thought.

There are times when it is ironic/clever (e.g,. speling, prefection, moran) to point out typos but other times, it just looks lame.

Here is a general tip: if it looks like someone could have typed something more clearly if they would have taken more time, it is generally lame to point out those errors.
 
2012-04-24 04:09:04 PM

Zeno-25: neon_god: There tends to be less diversity than, say, poli-sci, because economic opinions have to be backed up by statistics and a mathematical model to carry any weight.

Just like the fundamental assumption of all mainstream economics that human beings are rational actors, right? Of course, that idea must be taken for granted because if it were ever seriously questioned, the whole of classical economic theory falls apart and our corporate donors to the College of Business can't have that!


Nope, there are whole sub-disciplines that work on nothing but adjusting for the flaws in that assumption. Game theory and behavioral economics would be the obvious ones, but really any microeconomics is about that. All "mainstream" economics argues is that the assumption that humans behave in a rational manner is useful in most cases because it produces results that closely mirror the real world. And of course the classical model falls apart without that assumption. The same way Newtonian physics falls apart at the quantum level. That's why physicists or economists are always working on better models, to deal with more complicated cases. But for many things the old/ basic models stick around because they're useful in most cases.
Also, the fact that you think the economics department and the business school are the same thing suggests you don't know much about either. When people like you come along and disparage my entire field without really knowing what you're talking about, it gets annoying. Nothing personal, but you are wrong and you should stop shiatting on things you don't understand.
 
2012-04-24 04:09:41 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: You mean the Tea Party Now and the Tea Party Then may be of a different caliber?

/Actually, I suspect Patrick Henry would have fit right in the current crowd.



I was thinking more of the likes of Ted Kaczynski.

As for Patrick Henry, I don't see the "Give me liberty or give me death" guy hanging around with the "get your government hands off my medicare!" crowd
 
2012-04-24 04:26:43 PM
You answered 27 out of 33 correctly - 81.82 %
 
2012-04-24 04:54:34 PM
Obviously this test was done by a Free Trade Communist. The economic questions were not based on any real facts...just some dead man's disproven theories from 300 yrs ago

Got all the "civics" questions right 26 of 33 overall

Free Trade has failed...get over it
 
2012-04-24 04:56:16 PM

IXI Jim IXI: Vlad_the_Inaner: You mean the Tea Party Now and the Tea Party Then may be of a different caliber?

/Actually, I suspect Patrick Henry would have fit right in the current crowd.


I was thinking more of the likes of Ted Kaczynski.

As for Patrick Henry, I don't see the "Give me liberty or give me death" guy hanging around with the "get your government hands off my medicare!" crowd


Yeah, but the 'Lets support Christian churches with taxes, it's how we roll' guy resonates with a sizable portion of them

www.loc.gov
 
2012-04-24 04:57:32 PM
81.82% without cheating
 
2012-04-24 05:16:50 PM
You answered 31 out of 33 correctly - 93.94 %

No cheating, but I Am A Lawyer.

/One of the answers I got wrong is embarrassing, so I'm not going to post it.
 
2012-04-24 05:32:46 PM

pciszek: Masso: Vlad_the_Inaner: For the latter, its sort of the same answer but being picky as to defining the beneficiary. I could go even more picky in the same vein by asking "What? Don't visiting guests benefit too?"

Actually the answer have more to do with who paid for it. Villagers, some generous millionaire, or the government can fund the money to build a bridge or a road.

No, a flood control levee prevents residents (and visitors) from drowning regardless of who paid for it. That is what makes it a public good, regardless of the original funding. An anecdotal example of a privately funded public good: In a neighborhood full of twisty little streets all different, a boy scout got the idea (for his project) of painting house numbers on the curbs so that 911 responders could identify houses correctly. He was able to get financial backing from...Dominos! They had their own selfish reasons for wanting the job done, but all the same it accomplished the original purpose of allowing police, paramedics, and firefighters to find a house given only the address.


Uh.. That's what I said..
 
2012-04-24 05:33:52 PM
WTF kind of civics question is this? Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government's centralized planning because:

That seems like an essay question, not a multiple choice question. This kind of ridiculous college standard might indicate a problem with US education.

27/33 or 81.82%
 
2012-04-24 05:43:50 PM
You answered 32 out of 33 correctly - 96.97 %

The Puritans:
Your Answer: believed in complete religious freedom
Correct Answer: stressed the sinfulness of all humanity

Oops.. still, nice to see I did so well on it.
 
2012-04-24 05:53:18 PM
Woo Hoo!

You answered 30 out of 33 correctly - 90.91 %

What was the source of the following phrase: "Government of the people, by the people, for the people"?
Your Answer: Declaration of Independence
Correct Answer: Gettysburg Address

Doh!

Question: In 1935 and 1936 the Supreme Court declared that important parts of the New Deal were unconstitutional. President Roosevelt responded by threatening to:
Your Answer: eliminate the Supreme Court
Correct Answer: appoint additional Supreme Court justices who shared his views

Forgivable.

Question: Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:
Your Answer: all moral and political truth is relative to one's time and place
Correct Answer: certain permanent moral and political truths are accessible to human reason

Bah, I should have guessed better.
 
2012-04-24 05:55:00 PM

mrshowrules: When you go after someone based on their spelling/grammar, you seem like a real douche. Food for thought.

There are times when it is ironic/clever (e.g,. speling, prefection, moran) to point out typos but other times, it just looks lame.

Here is a general tip: if it looks like someone could have typed something more clearly if they would have taken more time, it is generally lame to point out those errors.


What about pointing out typos and grammar in response to a post that mocked the intelligence of others I teach and thus indirectly, me? Because that's what I did. You even quoted what he wrote:

mrshowrules: that's strange, I still remember quite a few things i memorized 30+ years ago, I guess you must teach in a community college.


ProTip: Read the entire conversation before offering tips.
 
2012-04-24 05:58:57 PM
Sidenote:

After skimming the thread, it appears Farkers are smarter than both the average citizen and college educators.

Woo Hoo!

Now let's turn this into a boobies / wieners thread!
 
2012-04-24 05:59:26 PM
I find it funny that so many people got the question about the Puritans wrong considering this is Fark and every time there is a thread about porn or sex half the thread is filled with people saying they are tired of the Puritanical attitudes that Americans have towards sex. I guess most people that post that really don't know what it means.
 
2012-04-24 06:01:27 PM

Mike Chewbacca: First of all, yes they all had to memorize things before they could "get their genius on." Second, even IF your idea that Shakespeare never required rote memorization is true, it IS true for the 99.99999% of human civilization who aren't a Shakespeare because we're not goddamn Shakespeare.

I'm going to farkie you as "bootstrapper of knowledge and education"


My apologies, I didn't realize who I was replying to. You are clearly the one and only person on earth who has used all of the facts they memorized in college. I mean, here there are college kids complaining about why they need to memorize the structures, names, abbreviations and properties of all amino acids, while also memorizing hundreds of nodes on the tree of life (seriously) and all of the characteristics of each node and also memorizing the components of individual cells.

But you sir, are the one person on earth who uses all of this and recalls all of this information and sees use for it. I guess that's why you think 99.999999% of human civilization should be required to memorize hundreds of nodes on the tree of life. You might need it 40 years from now and we can totally expect students to remember that shiat.
 
2012-04-24 06:05:54 PM
94%. That oughtta tell you something about how farked up our education system is.
/Ron Paul supporters know their shiat
 
2012-04-24 06:08:56 PM

hillbillypharmacist: GAT_00: Question: If taxes equal government spending, then:
Your Answer: government debt is zero
Correct Answer: tax per person equals government spending per person on average

The thing is, your answer is true.

Bad question.


No, his answer is false. The deficit would be zero, but the debt would remain at the same level.
 
2012-04-24 06:12:25 PM
29/33. Oh well, at least I did better than most of the Canadians who took the test and posted their results here.

/american
 
2012-04-24 06:19:21 PM
26/33

/Canadian, no real political science education outside
//Not bad
 
2012-04-24 06:21:31 PM
Also I sincerely disagree with this:

If taxes equal government spending, then:
Correct Answer: tax per person equals government spending per person on average

So the Government has no operating costs? All of the spending they do is funneled to taxpayer programs, and none of it is self-serving? I call bullshiat.
 
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