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(NYPost)   Murderer Joran van der Sloot to be dragged back to the U.S. to face charges in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway thanks to Peruvian authorities   (nypost.com ) divider line
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2012-04-24 11:46:33 AM  
Zimmerman was half-Peruvian...so I guess we like Peruvian authority figures now.
 
2012-04-24 12:28:33 PM  
Alabama, if you have any sense about you, please fry this bastard immediately upon arrival. Turn off every light bulb in the state (all six of them) to provide extra power to the chair.
 
2012-04-24 12:57:26 PM  
It seems really weird to me that you would extradite someone that had already been convicted of murder in one country to face extortion charges in another country.
 
2012-04-24 01:15:09 PM  

Cagey B: It seems really weird to me that you would extradite someone that had already been convicted of murder in one country to face extortion charges in another country.


Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents
 
2012-04-24 01:24:06 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents


That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.
 
2012-04-24 01:35:31 PM  

Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.


From the CNN article:

"I think he will be extradited within the next three months," said Altez. "He will go to trial in the United States. Once he is sentenced, he will return to Peru to finish serving his 28 years, and then go back to the States to serve whatever sentence he gets there."

It seems they want him in prison for a long time.
 
2012-04-24 01:43:51 PM  

Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.


right but it gives the opportunity to work him over with a padded lead pipe for a while. that's worth something.
 
2012-04-24 01:44:41 PM  

bluorangefyre: Alabama, if you have any sense about you, please fry this bastard immediately upon arrival. Turn off every light bulb in the state (all six of them) to provide extra power to the chair.


My hometown just got electricity at City Hall so I think there are now 7 or 8 light bulbs.
 
2012-04-24 01:55:21 PM  
It's an extortion charge, not charges about her disappearance.
 
2012-04-24 01:55:29 PM  

bluorangefyre: Alabama, if you have any sense about you, please fry this bastard immediately upon arrival. Turn off every light bulb in the state (all six of them) to provide extra power to the chair.


Not draconian enough.

I say that he has to go down on Nancy Grace.
 
2012-04-24 01:55:44 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.

From the CNN article:

"I think he will be extradited within the next three months," said Altez. "He will go to trial in the United States. Once he is sentenced, he will return to Peru to finish serving his 28 years, and then go back to the States to serve whatever sentence he gets there."

It seems they want him in prison for a long time.


This.

All it's about is making sure they can tack on as much prison time as possible.
 
2012-04-24 01:55:46 PM  
Peru doesn't want to pay for his health and well-being for 28 years.

I wonder who's prisons are nicer...
 
2012-04-24 01:56:36 PM  

thomps: Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.

right but it gives the opportunity to work him over with a padded lead pipe for a while. that's worth something.


He also gets the opportunity to make sweet love to Bubba and learn about American culture.
 
2012-04-24 01:56:37 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.

From the CNN article:

"I think he will be extradited within the next three months," said Altez. "He will go to trial in the United States. Once he is sentenced, he will return to Peru to finish serving his 28 years, and then go back to the States to serve whatever sentence he gets there."

It seems they want him in prison for a long time.


he's a free man after 28 years in prison for murder in Peru? they don't have life sentences?
 
2012-04-24 01:57:12 PM  
I think we should just leave him in a room with Nancy Grace for 10 minutes.
 
2012-04-24 01:57:32 PM  
Oh, so he gets a nice free trip to the US where he'll spend some time in one of our nice fancy prisons before taking a nice plane ride back to Peru. How lovely.
 
2012-04-24 01:57:50 PM  
Murderer Joran van der Sloot to be dragged back to the U.S. to face charges in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway thanks to Peruvian authorities

And I hope that's exactly how they do it....DRAG this piece of shiat every inch by his ankles back to the US.
 
2012-04-24 01:58:36 PM  
Why would Natalee Holloway thank the Puervian authorities? Why would anyone be faced with charges if she did?
 
2012-04-24 01:59:25 PM  
I always knew she was a Sloot.
 
2012-04-24 01:59:35 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: thomps: Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.

right but it gives the opportunity to work him over with a padded lead pipe for a while. that's worth something.

He also gets the opportunity to make sweet love to Bubba and learn about American culture.


He's like 7 feet tall. Bubba might get some schoolin'
 
2012-04-24 02:01:02 PM  

Cagey B: It seems really weird to me that you would extradite someone that had already been convicted of murder in one country to face extortion charges in another country.


Peru is not an advanced enough civilization to have the death penalty. Alabama has life in prison for possession of a dildo
 
2012-04-24 02:02:20 PM  
That's a ridiculous waste of resources and inter-governmental good will for no purpose whatsoever.

She's dead. He's almost certainly the guy who did it. But he'll never be convicted of the crime as there's no evidence. He's in Peruvian prison for life on a murder rap, and that's as close to hell as he's going to be until he dies. What's the point of dragging him up here to continue the carnival side-show?
 
2012-04-24 02:02:27 PM  
The meme i am picking up with this is 'It is a big waste of resources' to put this guy on trial.

WTF?

Dear Arseholes who are putting this out there...he tried to extort Halloway's parents...he is a prime suspect in the murder of an american...what the fark do you want to do, ignore that and just say even steven and let Peru handle it? It isn't like we have to create a justice system to deal with this, it already exists and costs have been allocated for it...one more defendant will not waste any more resources than already have been allocated.
 
2012-04-24 02:05:33 PM  

cefm: That's a ridiculous waste of resources and inter-governmental good will for no purpose whatsoever.

She's dead. He's almost certainly the guy who did it. But he'll never be convicted of the crime as there's no evidence. He's in Peruvian prison for life on a murder rap, and that's as close to hell as he's going to be until he dies. What's the point of dragging him up here to continue the carnival side-show?


because it's for a different crime, extortion.

/yes, i know reading the article is cheating...
 
2012-04-24 02:05:37 PM  
Hail Peruvia!

www.berroco.com
 
2012-04-24 02:06:19 PM  

SlothB77: AlwaysRightBoy: Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.

From the CNN article:

"I think he will be extradited within the next three months," said Altez. "He will go to trial in the United States. Once he is sentenced, he will return to Peru to finish serving his 28 years, and then go back to the States to serve whatever sentence he gets there."

It seems they want him in prison for a long time.

he's a free man after 28 years in prison for murder in Peru? they don't have life sentences?


Because 28 years isnt a long ass time? He's only 24 now. He'll be north of 50 by the time he gets out. His life is effectively over. Sure, some people change careers in their 50s, but it's a lot harder to do when you spent most of your life locked in a Peruvian prison.

Though if he has some vast personal fortune he is sure to enjoy when he gets out, sure, throw the book at him.
 
2012-04-24 02:06:41 PM  

bluorangefyre: Alabama, if you have any sense about you, please fry this bastard immediately upon arrival. Turn off every light bulb in the state (all six of them) to provide extra power to the chair.


Alabama has nothing to say about it. The feds are the ones who wants van der Sloot. He is not facing the death penalty in their case, as he is charged only with extortion. He is facing 25 years in the US, but is already serving 28 years in Peru. Of course, he's willing to be extradited. Wouldn't you? A federal pen, as bad as they are, has to be an improvement over a Peruvian pen.
 
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2012-04-24 02:07:11 PM  
hope he gets a warm welcome from the Alabama inmates.
 
2012-04-24 02:09:12 PM  
I forgot about this filth. It's strange you can try an extort money in exchange for the location of the body isn't some form of admission of murder.
 
2012-04-24 02:09:18 PM  
Do him up in blackface and let him peek in ZImmerman's windows
 
2012-04-24 02:09:29 PM  

Jacobin: Peru is not an advanced enough civilization to have the death penalty


while living in Ecuador teaching English I got into a serious argument with some friends about the death penalty since an Ecuadorian man was convincted in the U.S. Ecuador doesn't have a death penalty and the Ecuadorians were very upset that the U.S. would convinct their countryman and sentence him to death. In the middle of this conversation a huge mob of people ran by the restaurant yelling and screaming. I asked my friend to find out what was going on. He returned and nonchalantly informed us that a man had been caught stealing bread and the shop owner was going to kill him in town square. I guess it's okay to take the death penalty in civilian hands but not in state sanctioned death.
 
2012-04-24 02:09:30 PM  

cefm: That's a ridiculous waste of resources and inter-governmental good will for no purpose whatsoever.


Oh, of course, we should be concerned that we are going to offend Peruvian sensibilities? And what resources are being wasted? We aren't creating a special unit for this guy, he is one of a dozen cases being worked on by agents...he being processed by the courts will free up resources...unless you think we should just forget about him?

He's in Peruvian prison for life on a murder rap,

Or you know, 28 years...he would be about 50 when he gets out...but close enough for morons.
 
2012-04-24 02:09:38 PM  

I_C_Weener: Zimmerman was half-Peruvian...so I guess we like Peruvian authority figures now.


done in one.
 
2012-04-24 02:10:24 PM  

cefm: That's a ridiculous waste of resources and inter-governmental good will for no purpose whatsoever.

She's dead. He's almost certainly the guy who did it. But he'll never be convicted of the crime as there's no evidence. He's in Peruvian prison for life 28 years on a murder rap, and that's as close to hell as he's going to be until he dies. What's the point of dragging him up here to continue the carnival side-show?


FTFY - he only has 28 years in Peruvian prison

The real point of this is that while there isn't enough evidence to try him for murder in the US for Natalee Holloway, they have the evidence for Extortion and have to bring him to trial for that within the statute of limitations, which is why they are doing it now, and not when he gets out of Peruvian prison in 28 years. Also, assuming he is convicted of extortion, it means that at the end of his term, he will be transferred directly the US, otherwise he might have a chance to be free.
 
2012-04-24 02:10:47 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Cagey B: AlwaysRightBoy: Me thinks they're going to do this to bring closure for the family and send him back to Peru to serve the murder term.

/my 2 cents

That seems like a waste of resources, since any possible sentence for extortion would be far shorter than what he serves for murder back in Peru. Also the trial will not yield any new information as to the whereabouts of Miss Holloway's corpse. Or establish in a court of law who is responsible for her murder.

From the CNN article:

"I think he will be extradited within the next three months," said Altez. "He will go to trial in the United States. Once he is sentenced, he will return to Peru to finish serving his 28 years, and then go back to the States to serve whatever sentence he gets there."

It seems they want him in prison for a long time.


FTFA: If found guilty of extortion, he could be sentenced to 25 years in prison.

What are the odds he gets the max?
 
2012-04-24 02:12:24 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Peru doesn't want to pay for his health and well-being for 28 years.

I wonder who's prisons are nicer...


I've seen shows like Locked Up Abroad and some documentaries on south american prisons. I'd say he is getting better punishment leaving him in that sh*thole than letting him have a nice trip to a U.S. prison.

I think we should be able to do the trial on the U.S. embassy grounds in Peru rather than wasting resources to fly him to the U.S. if it is really worth the convinction for the extortion.
 
2012-04-24 02:15:31 PM  

bluorangefyre: Alabama, if you have any sense about you, please fry this bastard immediately upon arrival. Turn off every light bulb in the state (all six of them) to provide extra power to the chair.


Yeah, fark the Bill of Rights!

A screeching harpy with a cable TV show already decided he's guilty of murdering Holloway; that's good enough for me!
 
2012-04-24 02:16:18 PM  
encrypted-tbn1.google.com
 
2012-04-24 02:17:32 PM  
What case?
/Hurt feelings?
 
2012-04-24 02:19:50 PM  

poot_rootbeer: bluorangefyre: Alabama, if you have any sense about you, please fry this bastard immediately upon arrival. Turn off every light bulb in the state (all six of them) to provide extra power to the chair.

Yeah, fark the Bill of Rights!

A screeching harpy with a cable TV show already decided he's guilty of murdering Holloway; that's good enough for me!


The fact that he attempted to extort money from Holloway's mother regarding the location of the body was enough to convince me.

But you go ahead and white night for a complete piece of shiat. That should work out well for you.
 
2012-04-24 02:20:18 PM  
I hope his plane lands the day Zimmerman is acquitted. Oh jeebus what a farked up day that would be.

The federal government spends millions trying to get a white girl's killer extradited after participating in a federal blackmail sting. Meanwhile, a black kid is blown away and no one gets arrested, then after he's arrested he goes free.

I don't blame people for being pissed.
 
2012-04-24 02:21:12 PM  

vernonFL: I think we should just leave him in a room with Nancy Grace for 10 minutes.


Either outcome, we win.
 
2012-04-24 02:21:26 PM  
I hope "drag" was literal and not figurative. Behind a truck.
 
2012-04-24 02:22:17 PM  
Here's the headline I want to see next: Van Der Sloot Shot 28 Times While Trying To Escape
 
2012-04-24 02:23:09 PM  

SlothB77: he's a free man after 28 years in prison for murder in Peru? they don't have life sentences?


Probably not which is why he will serve more time in the U.S. after Peru.
 
2012-04-24 02:23:35 PM  

ToxicMunkee: Oh, so he gets a nice free trip to the US where he'll spend some time in one of our nice fancy prisons before taking a nice plane ride back to Peru. How lovely.


Or, he could 'fall out of the plane' at 30,000 feet while trying to escape.

That would be a shame...
 
2012-04-24 02:24:35 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Peru doesn't want to pay for his health and well-being for 28 years.

I wonder who's prisons are nicer...


LOL, you think Peru actually puts money into their prison system? There's a reason why people say you never want to end up in a peruvian prison.
 
2012-04-24 02:24:44 PM  
Ok, so why are we extraditing a non-American for a crime committed in a foreign country?
 
2012-04-24 02:25:37 PM  
Stupid and stupider.

The bastard is ALREADY facing 28 years in a peruvian hellhole prison; let him rot there.

Instead they take him to the USA where he has a nice clean prison and all kinds of "rights," including conjugal visits?

F**k the bastard, let him rot where he is.
 
2012-04-24 02:26:45 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: cefm: That's a ridiculous waste of resources and inter-governmental good will for no purpose whatsoever.

She's dead. He's almost certainly the guy who did it. But he'll never be convicted of the crime as there's no evidence. He's in Peruvian prison for life 28 years on a murder rap, and that's as close to hell as he's going to be until he dies. What's the point of dragging him up here to continue the carnival side-show?

FTFY - he only has 28 years in Peruvian prison

The real point of this is that while there isn't enough evidence to try him for murder in the US for Natalee Holloway, they have the evidence for Extortion and have to bring him to trial for that within the statute of limitations, which is why they are doing it now, and not when he gets out of Peruvian prison in 28 years. Also, assuming he is convicted of extortion, it means that at the end of his term, he will be transferred directly the US, otherwise he might have a chance to be free.


And there's always the chance that he says something stupid in the course of the extortion trial and they actually come up with good evidence of the murder itself. If his defense lawyers aren't complete idiots then I'm sure they'll advise him not to say a word to the police or testify at trial, but you never know. Sometimes people like to talk, to "clarify" things, etc. This guy is a world-class obfuscator but we haven't yet seen how he reacts under these conditions.
 
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